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Kazanne
20-03-2020, 10:39 AM
Would you volunteer to be a tester for Corona virus vaccine?

bots
20-03-2020, 10:46 AM
Nope, i wouldn't, even if i were younger. I commend efforts to get a vaccine ready as soon as possible, but things are being rushed and that brings with it much greater risk

Kazanne
20-03-2020, 10:49 AM
Nope, i wouldn't, even if i were younger. I commend efforts to get a vaccine ready as soon as possible, but things are being rushed and that brings with it much greater risk

I think I would bots IF I didn't have children ,but I suppose its easier to say than do.

caprimint
20-03-2020, 10:54 AM
Seriously considered it, you get hella money for it

arista
20-03-2020, 10:55 AM
Yes so long as its High Money Payment

Cherie
20-03-2020, 10:55 AM
No, I can't stand getting a cold at the best of times, kudos to those that do it though even if it is for cold hard cash and not in the interest of science.

Kazanne
20-03-2020, 11:01 AM
Yes so long as its High Money Payment

I'm guessing it will be a pretty penny arista,but would you do it for free ?

Beso
20-03-2020, 11:14 AM
I would do it for free.

Twosugars
20-03-2020, 11:27 AM
Yes, I would volunteer

Kazanne
20-03-2020, 11:51 AM
I would do it for free.

Good man Parmy, wouldn't it be something if a cure was found quite soon ?

Morgan.
20-03-2020, 11:53 AM
Seriously considered it, you get hella money for it

You get £4k which imo is not enough for that :joker:

user104658
20-03-2020, 11:53 AM
**** that, I have a family and untested vaccines have more than once had a 100% death rate.

Kazanne
20-03-2020, 11:58 AM
Yes, I would volunteer

Yes,I think I would too if I hadn't got children, it would be nice to feel your doing something towards helping.

Kazanne
20-03-2020, 11:59 AM
**** that, I have a family and untested vaccines have more than once had a 100% death rate.

Oh blimey , didn't know that , glad I have children then, that's my excuse.

bots
20-03-2020, 12:03 PM
Oh blimey , didn't know that , glad I have children then, that's my excuse.

there is no benefit in getting paid 5k or whatever if you are not around to spend it. It is important that it gets tested obviously, but given the speed these vaccines have come to trial, they will only take on people in peak health and fitness in the early stages of testing

Crimson Dynamo
20-03-2020, 12:15 PM
does no one remember that time all these people died when this type of thing went wrong

i think it was made into a film?

The Slim Reaper
20-03-2020, 12:17 PM
does no one remember that time all these people died when this type of thing went wrong

i think it was made into a film?

Didn't they get massive heads?

user104658
20-03-2020, 12:18 PM
Medical testing in general is such a huge moral grey area. It tends to be undertaken by single people with few attachments who are in need of the money because it pays so well, but it comes with massive risks of life-long side effects. On the other hand, if no one did it, we wouldn't have even a fraction of the medical advances we have today.

I guess it's an easier choice when it's something like an experimental cancer treatment, or another chronic condition, and you already have that condition. Sort of like a "Well I might as well give it a shot!" ... but something like a vaccine, the whole point is that it has to be tested on healthy adults, which makes it a bit of a Russian Roulette. On top of that they (for obvious reasons) are rushing these vaccines to the human testing phase MUCH faster than they usually would, skipping or accelerating a lot of the "pre-testing" stuff, which makes it even riskier.

caprimint
20-03-2020, 12:19 PM
You get £4k which imo is not enough for that :joker:
£4k goes a loooong way, if you die then you wouldn't know anyway so why not

Nicky91
20-03-2020, 12:21 PM
Medical testing in general is such a huge moral grey area. It tends to be undertaken by single people with few attachments who are in need of the money because it pays so well, but it comes with massive risks of life-long side effects. On the other hand, if no one did it, we wouldn't have even a fraction of the medical advances we have today.

I guess it's an easier choice when it's something like an experimental cancer treatment, or another chronic condition, and you already have that condition. Sort of like a "Well I might as well give it a shot!" ... but something like a vaccine, the whole point is that it has to be tested on healthy adults, which makes it a bit of a Russian Roulette. On top of that they (for obvious reasons) are rushing these vaccines to the human testing phase MUCH faster than they usually would, skipping or accelerating a lot of the "pre-testing" stuff, which makes it even riskier.

test it on older people, who this virus is fatal to anyway, so what do they have to lose

if vaccine works, they have a chance of survival

user104658
20-03-2020, 12:21 PM
does no one remember that time all these people died when this type of thing went wrong

i think it was made into a film?

There was also thalidomide :umm2: ... and that was just a sleeping pill. Turned out if you took it while pregnant, the babies were born with missing limbs. We had a thalidomide victim as a customer in my shop - rich as **** because he got a multi-million £ settlement. No arms though. He had to bop the FOBT button with his shoulder.

smudgie
20-03-2020, 12:24 PM
No.
Not a chance, but I am happy to be the one that they decide not to treat if it comes to the crunch.
As long as they send me off with morphine.

GoldHeart
20-03-2020, 12:24 PM
There was also thalidomide :umm2: ... and that was just a sleeping pill. Turned out if you took it while pregnant, the babies were born with missing limbs. We had a thalidomide victim as a customer in my shop - rich as **** because he got a multi-million £ settlement. No arms though. He had to bop the FOBT button with his shoulder.

It's sad and disgusting what happened to the thalidomide victims. The people responsible for that don't seem to care what they've caused. They didn't do any testing on it.

I saw a documentary about an Australian guy who's mother unfortunately took it whilst pregnant with him. He has no arms and uses his feet for everything.

user104658
20-03-2020, 12:28 PM
test it on older people, who this virus is fatal to anyway, so what do they have to lose

if vaccine works, they have a chance of survival

They need to know how it affects all age ranges though, so they have to test it on all adult age ranges.

Also Nicky :nono: you're usually good at avoiding misinformation with Covid... it is NOT a death sentence for the elderly, the death rate for even elderly cases is "only" 20% or thereabouts. Now that is obviously very high, it means 1-in-5 elderly people who get it will die however most elderly people do recover... it's not a case of "Oh I've got it, so that's it, might as well test drugs on myself". Even 50% who end up in ICU with breathing assistance pull through.

thesheriff443
20-03-2020, 12:36 PM
Didn't they get massive heads?

They swelled up like balloons I’m not sure if any died tho.

armand.kay
20-03-2020, 12:37 PM
I'm guessing it will be a pretty penny arista,but would you do it for free ?

only if they were gonna give it out for free :hee:

arista
20-03-2020, 01:26 PM
I'm guessing it will be a pretty penny arista,but would you do it for free ?


NO

Kizzy
20-03-2020, 02:32 PM
If I could yes I would, but I cant now due to NAFLD

Beso
20-03-2020, 03:33 PM
Good man Parmy, wouldn't it be something if a cure was found quite soon ?

Sorry, I don't want a massive swollen head...Im out, unless it's ten grand.

Kazanne
20-03-2020, 03:43 PM
Sorry, I don't want a massive swollen head...Im out, unless it's ten grand.

:fist::fist::fist:

michael21
20-03-2020, 09:42 PM
Yes so long as its High Money Payment

Yes the poor need money :smug:

Captain.Remy
20-03-2020, 09:49 PM
I would do it even for free. I am young, fit and always want to give back!

Captain.Remy
20-03-2020, 09:49 PM
Yes the poor need money :smug:

And I ooop- :skull::joker:

Amy Jade
20-03-2020, 10:10 PM
I'm not sure I am allowed as I am considered a 'key worker' but if I thought it could save lives and I didn't have a job or commitments I'd do it.

Jessica.
21-03-2020, 03:22 AM
I'd do it for free.

JerseyWins
21-03-2020, 04:08 AM
Nahhh I'm not getting injected with no coronavirus vaccine! I'm even kinda paranoid about what like flu shots and stuff can actually do to you let alone some unknown vaccine. My boss is a bit of a paranoid nut about that stuff so he's got me thinking that way a little bit too now :laugh:

I originally heard it was like $3500-4000 to do it here as well but then someone told me it's actually $7000! (maybe doesn't know what he's talking about) Still not enough money for me to do it.

Josy
21-03-2020, 08:11 AM
test it on older people, who this virus is fatal to anyway, so what do they have to lose



if vaccine works, they have a chance of survival:/

Kazanne
21-03-2020, 08:20 AM
:/

Agree

Tony Montana
21-03-2020, 02:17 PM
Probably not.

James
23-04-2020, 06:55 PM
Two volunteers were injected, the first of more than 800 people recruited for the study.
Half will receive the Covid-19 vaccine, and half a control vaccine which protects against meningitis but not coronavirus.
The design of the trial means volunteers will not know which vaccine they are getting, though doctors will.
Elisa Granato, one of the two who received the jab, told the BBC: "I'm a scientist, so I wanted to try to support the scientific process wherever I can."
The vaccine was developed in under three months by a team at Oxford University. Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the Jenner Institute, led the pre-clinical research.
"Personally I have a high degree of confidence in this vaccine," she said.
"Of course, we have to test it and get data from humans. We have to demonstrate it actually works and stops people getting infected with coronavirus before using the vaccine in the wider population."
Prof Gilbert previously said she was "80% confident" the vaccine would work, but now prefers not to put a figure on it, saying simply she is "very optimistic" about its chances


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caprimint
23-04-2020, 06:56 PM
Is there no money for it? :unsure:

Kizzy
23-04-2020, 07:35 PM
Bu9qkIzwuhc

They have had the vaccine now will this girl be deliberately infected or wait to see if she picks it up or not?