Breaking News. Boris diagnosed with Corona Virus.

[Kate!]

Boris Johnson has been confirmed as having the Corona Virus.

Omg. The poor man.

[arista]

He can get over it

[Saph]

and i oop-

[bots]

source please Kate, i don't see it anywhere yet

edit .. just seen bbc alert confirming

[Kate!]

Its on BBC news right now. Sorry I can't link you. Xx

[arista]

source please Kate, i don't see it anywhere yet

edit .. just seen bbc alert confirming

SkyNewsHD Live

LBC Live

[arista]

Dominic Raab
is ready to take over .

If he has to stay in bed.

[Mystic Mock]

He can get over it

That's not very compassionate Arista.:laugh:

I had a feeling tbh, hopefully he can fight it off.

[arista]

That's not very compassionate Arista.:laugh:

I had a feeling tbh, hopefully he can fight it off.

5 Days of Hell.

[caprimint]

Noooooooo :bawling:

[arista]

His Wife is having a baby
she matters more

[Nancy.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8159701/Boris-Johnson-tests-positive-coronavirus-crisis-grips-UK.html

[arista]

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[Liam-]

He’s a twat, but he doesn’t deserve that.
Will be interesting to see how fast they scuttle to take all precautions with him though.

[Kate!]

His Wife is having a baby
she matters more

Oh no. Forgot about that. He will have to stay away for 14 days is it?

[Josy]

Its mild symptoms so I'm sure he'll be fine

[arista]

He’s a twat, but he doesn’t deserve that.
Will be interesting to see how fast they scuttle to take all precautions with him though.


MP Raab
Is ready to take over
this was set up weeks ago , in case.


His Medical Adviser
made sure he got a Legit Test
lucky him.

[user104658]

He’s a twat, but he doesn’t deserve that.
Will be interesting to see how fast they scuttle to take all precautions with him though.He'll likely have 24/7 doctor-lead care. Not many people getting that, put it that way.

[Liam-]

He'll likely have 24/7 doctor-lead care. Not many people getting that, put it that way.

He got his test and results pretty quickly, funny that, given they told us normal folk it would take a while

[arista]

Its mild symptoms so I'm sure he'll be fine

No thats the Early start of it
Fever Head Pains, Back Pains
and far worse is on its way to him.

The Young Political Reporter on LBC
nearly died with it.
One Top Doctor Max
kept him breathing..............................

[Oliver_W]

Oh god, that's really rattled me for some reason :/

[arista]

He got his test and results pretty quickly, funny that, given they told us normal folk it would take a while


Yes I bet it was a Fast Blood Test
type.


15mins result

[user104658]

He got his test and results pretty quickly, funny that, given they told us normal folk it would take a whileI would hazard a guess that he'll have been getting tests every 2-3 days regardless of symptoms, especially since it was confirmed that he had been in contact with another politician who tested positive.

[Josy]

No thats the Early start of it

Fever Head Pains, Back Pains

and far worse is on its way to him.



The Young Political Reporter on LBC

nearly died with it.

One Top Doctor Max

kept him breathing..............................No you nor anyone else knows anything for sure.

It's been widely reported that some will have no symptoms, some mild and some severe/life threatening.

[arista]

Oh god, that's really rattled me for some reason :/

He can suffer it.


MP Raab is ready to take over

[user104658]

No thats the Early start of it

Fever Head Pains, Back Pains

and far worse is on its way to him.



Not necessarily. MANY have recovered after having only mild symptoms. Stop the fear-mongering arista, please.

[Josy]

Not necessarily. MANY have recovered after having only mild symptoms. Stop the fear-mongering arista, please.I agree it's getting ****ing ridiculous

[Kate!]

No thats the Early start of it
Fever Head Pains, Back Pains
and far worse is on its way to him.

The Young Political Reporter on LBC
nearly died with it.
One Top Doctor Max
kept him breathing..............................

You don't know that now. He could be fine again in a week or less. May hopefully just have mild symptoms like Josy said.

[Zizu]

Mmmmmm anyone notice Adam Boulton’s demeanour as he broke that news !??


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[Josy]

Mmmmmm anyone notice Adam Boulton’s demeanour as he broke that news !??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProNo. Elaborate please?

[arista]

Mmmmmm anyone notice Adam Boulton’s demeanour as he broke that news !??


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Sure.

[arista]

Ooh loov, we can only hope!

Trump would be hard to keep alive if he gets Covid 19
but they would make a effort

[Kate!]

Mmmmmm anyone notice Adam Boulton’s demeanour as he broke that news !??


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Why Zizu. Did he look very worried?

[arista]

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[user104658]

Trump would be hard to keep alive if he gets Covid 19

but they would make a effort

Even this isn't true, Trump is in a high risk category yes (as a man over 70) but even then there's still a more than 50% chance he wouldn't even need hospital care. He seems to be in relatively good physical health for his age (because he's rich).

Yes, he might get it bad and die. It's possible for anyone. But you need to stop reading the possibilities and declaring them as likelihoods or certainties.

[arista]

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[caprimint]

Tragic that people are looking at the worst possible outcomes here because they want to and are bitter about him being our PM

[arista]

Tragic that people are looking at the worst possible outcomes here because they want to and are bitter about him being our PM

He can get over it
Get's Top Medics helping - advising him


It's a Recovery he must go for
But also some of us are ready for the worse outcome.
And Keep the Country - Going.

[Zizu]

Sure.



What was your take ?


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[Mitchell]

If only he’d acted sooner really.

[arista]

What was your take ?


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Adam is Tired
working hard

[Nicky91]

his poor pregnant fiancee hope she doesn't have the virus :worry:

[arista]

his poor pregnant fiancee hope she doesn't have the virus :worry:

She is at another location
so should be fine

[Kate!]

Boris is just on TV. He looks ok. Said he is self isolating at Number 10. Also said that he is able to continue his role with the help of technology.

[arista]

Boris is just on TV. He looks ok. Said he is self isolating at Number 10. Also said that he is able to continue his role with the help of technology.


Early days of it/


Raab MP ready to take over

[Jordan.]

Why am I gasping? He never seemed to be taking his own advice seriously

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[Zizu]

Why Zizu. Did he look very worried?


On the contrary... Adam Boulton’s trending on Twitter ..


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[Kazanne]

Tragic that people are looking at the worst possible outcomes here because they want to and are bitter about him being our PM

Yes,I thought the same,such a lack of compassion from some, says a lot imo.:wavey:

[Beso]

On the contrary... Adam Boulton’s trending on Twitter ..


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Why?

[Greg!]

I guess he didn’t wash his hands to happy birthday often enough :(

[Zizu]

Why?



Inappropriate smirking whilst announcing newsflashes .. plural


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[The Slim Reaper]

Can you make those a bit bigger, zizu?

[user104658]

Good to see James finally got on top of that picture-resizing issue.

[bots]

BREAKING: Health Secretary Hancock also tests positive

[Crimson Dynamo]

matt hancock also has it

[Kate!]

BREAKING: Health Secretary Hancock also tests positive

matt hancock also has it

All the Cabinet will probably now get it :sad:

[Liam-]

Good to see they’re sticking by the rules they’re setting for everyone, dumb****s

[Kazanne]

Can you make those a bit bigger, zizu?

:joker::joker:

[Zizu]

Good to see James finally got on top of that picture-resizing issue.



Sorry I can’t ... try zooming in maybe ?


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[James]

Good to see James finally got on top of that picture-resizing issue.

There's an easy fix for that.

[James]

Could it be with the number of celebrities and notable people that have been reported to have tested positive for the virus, that the infection has spread rapidly through the population, and the Oxford University study that suggested 50% of the country have already had it, is accurate?

[bots]

Could it be with the number of celebrities and notable people that have been reported to have tested positive for the virus, that the infection has spread rapidly through the population, and the Oxford University study that suggested 50% of the country have already had it, is accurate?

i think it's accurate. I know quite a few people that were a bit under the weather with unexplained coughs etc, but no fever. It's speculation obviously, but it wouldn't surprise me if these were very mild cases. My brother lost his taste for a few days ... no other symptoms, it's just not a normal event to lose your sense of taste like that without other symptoms

[user104658]

Could it be with the number of celebrities and notable people that have been reported to have tested positive for the virus, that the infection has spread rapidly through the population, and the Oxford University study that suggested 50% of the country have already had it, is accurate?I think a large proportion of public figures having tested positive does indicate a much wider spread. It would be a sensible assumption, anyway.

[Samm]

Well if it's 50% already, what's herd immunity? 70%?

[James]

Here's an article about the 50% of the population theory and one with some expert reaction, so we don't get our hopes up -

'Why it’s too tempting to believe the Oxford study on coronavirus' - https://www.ft.com/content/14df8908-6f47-11ea-9bca-bf503995cd6f

'Expert reaction to unpublished paper modelling what percentage of the UK population may have been exposed to COVID-19' - https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-unpublished-paper-modelling-what-percentage-of-the-uk-population-may-have-been-exposed-to-covid-19/

The trouble is none of us know anything.

[arista]

All the Cabinet will probably now get it :sad:


Yes more may have it
or worse are Air Spreaders

[arista]

Why am I gasping? He never seemed to be taking his own advice seriously

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Yes Johnson PM
also a Covid 19 Spreader.

[Kizzy]

Boris is just on TV. He looks ok. Said he is self isolating at Number 10. Also said that he is able to continue his role with the help of technology.

But no 10 isn't a house..it's an office, and lots of other people work there :/

Like Doctor Who's Tardis, the property is deceptively large, despite its modest townhouse appearance. Behind the Georgian entrance lie approximately 100 rooms, connected by a labyrinth of halls and corridors – complete with a 0.5 acre garden. Following the death of Count Bothmar, who owned the mansion at the rear of No. 10, George II offered it as a gift to Sir Robert Walpole after the deeds reverted to the crown.

[hijaxers]

Chris Whitty also has it !

[Scarlett.]

I think a large proportion of public figures having tested positive does indicate a much wider spread. It would be a sensible assumption, anyway.

Given a lot of public figures run in the same circles as each other though, it wouldnt take much for it to spread through them

[hijaxers]

matt hancock also has it

Yes well the 3 main people telling us to social distance ourselves obviously didn't and now they all have it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think when the buck stops with you and you may get blamed for killing thousands you soemetimes forget out your personal safety as you are thinking about others

[arista]

Chris Whitty also has it !


Yes could he be the Big Spreader?
As he is the Medical Man.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/27/16/26495848-8159701-image-m-5_1585327334089.jpg

[Twosugars]

Given a lot of public figures run in the same circles as each other though, it wouldnt take much for it to spread through them

Agree.
A few politicians doesnt make it 50%.

Scaremongering :hehe:

[user104658]

Agree.

A few politicians doesnt make it 50%.



Scaremongering :hehe:50% having it would be the best news in weeks so more "wishful thinking" than scaremongering.

But I agree that various politicians having it means little as they've been in close contact. There are enough "various" celebrities etc. with it (or at least claiming to have it) to suggest much higher numbers than official cases shows, but then, we already more or less know that to be the case. I think 50% spread is a vast over-estimation obviously.

[Zizu]

Anyone hear the guy ringing into LBC a few minutes ago ??

He told of his friend stuck in a Vietnamese hospital after 27 days and STILL positive as of yesterday !
They quarantined him after random testing of a group of people ... he then had a sore throat for 7 days then went downhill . 3 days on a IV drip then started to improve slowly . He’s had no symptoms for the last 14 days but they won’t release him until he’s had two negative tests .. he was still testing positive as of yesterday !!

Just as worrying is the guy in the adjoining bed who’s been in all that time but with ZERO symptoms but is still also testing as positive !!

This is a scary development to my mind and could be a game changer :(


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[michael21]

He can get over it

Sure but can the UK

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Bet he’s hiding a ventilator as well just in case

[arista]

Bet he’s hiding a ventilator as well just in case


Yes get back up stock

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[arista]

He has said today
he still has a Fever
so will remain in his Downing St. Flat.

He also stated Good Weather
tomorrow but he wants you to stay at home?

Somehow I think many will go out
ignore the PM.

[Denver]

He has said today
he still has a Fever
so will remain in his Downing St. Flat.

He also stated Good Weather
tomorrow but he wants you to stay at home?

Somehow I think many will go out
ignore the PM.

With the warmer weather coming now is time for stricter fines on those breaking rules

[Nicky91]

With the warmer weather coming now is time for stricter fines on those breaking rules

yes, and why go to parks, beaches when you can just sit outside in your garden or on your balcony

[Nicky91]

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[arista]

With the warmer weather coming now is time for stricter fines on those breaking rules


If the Fat Copper can catch the youths?

[Kizzy]

There was an article in leeds live about kids playing footie in the street...
I thought we were allowed excersise, and they were on the street they live not a park and well spaced out.

People are getting silly about it now tbh, shaming kids :/

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/fury-kids-leeds-suburb-hide-18028357

[Denver]

Playing out with your mates is not exercise

[Kate!]

Playing out with your mates is not exercise

Is it not? I think it is. For kids its the most enjoyable form of exercise. X

[Kizzy]

Playing out with your mates is not exercise

Football is exercise.

[Cherie]

There was an article in leeds live about kids playing footie in the street...
I thought we were allowed excersise, and they were on the street they live not a park and well spaced out.

People are getting silly about it now tbh, shaming kids :/

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/fury-kids-leeds-suburb-hide-18028357

I thought it was crystal clear, you can exercise with members of your own family, that is it...

[Cherie]

Football is exercise.

unless they are family members then it's all kinds of wrong

[Denver]

Football is exercise.

Not when its with people from other households, give the parents massive fines

[Denver]

Its attitudes like that is why people break the rules and continue to infect

[Cherie]

Is it not? I think it is. For kids its the most enjoyable form of exercise. X

Unfortunately it is because of people like this thinking the rules don't apply to them will mean we will be in lockdown until May at the very least

[Kate!]

Unfortunately it is because of people like this thinking the rules don't apply to them will mean we will be in lockdown until May at the very least

Yes but when kids see their mates in the street how do you enforce it then. They don't see any harm. And what should a parent do? Drag them away? Fining them is not a good answer.

[Cherie]

Yes but when kids see their mates in the street how do you enforce it then. They don't see any harm. And what should a parent do? Drag them away? Fining them is not a good answer.

A 13 year old had just died alone, and his family couldn’t attend his funeral as his siblings are showing symptoms that should be deterrent enough for most parents :shrug:

[Denver]

It's a parents job to make sure their child not only follows rules but stays healthy as much as they can possible do so if they have to lock doors and windows so be it, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind

[Kizzy]

unless they are family members then it's all kinds of wrong

As long as they are social distancing then the advice is excersise is fine..and they are literally feet from their houses.
People are allowed to jog and cycle there are 100s of those everywhere...(not being very safe I add) all over.

[Kizzy]

It's a parents job to make sure their child not only follows rules but stays healthy as much as they can possible do so if they have to lock doors and windows so be it, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind

Locking kids up is not healthy.. how are they meant to exercise then? Or get any fresh air?

[Denver]

Locking kids up is not healthy.. how are they meant to exercise then? Or get any fresh air?

Neither us catching the deadly virus currently about what would you rather? A critically Ill child or a child who ismf bored

[Denver]

They should be grateful to they live in an era with TV, Internet and Video Games

[Kizzy]

Unfortunately it is because of people like this thinking the rules don't apply to them will mean we will be in lockdown until May at the very least

Give us a safe example of acceptable government advocated outdoor exercise for children then Cherie.

[Liam-]

The daily exercise is meant to be alone or only with household members, letting your kids out to play football with the other local kids is completely irresponsible and for once, I agree with Adam on something like this, parents found to be allowing their children to do so, should be fined

[Kizzy]

Its attitudes like that is why people break the rules and continue to infect

It's attitudes like this that lead to scaremongering and panic buying.

[Cherie]

Give us a safe example of acceptable government advocated outdoor exercise for children then Cherie.

They can go out with a sibling or parent and exercise, ride a bike....jog, there are families with kids in our street they go out every day together and ride their bikes up and down, but they are not joining in with others kids on the street as they and their parents are obviously aware of what is acceptable, the kids come out at different times to other families


I dont know what part of do not meet others you are not getting.

Stay at home
Only go outside for food, health reasons or work (but only if you cannot work from home)
If you go out, stay 2 metres (6ft) away from other people at all times
Wash your hands as soon as you get home
Do not meet others, even friends or family.

You can spread the virus even if you don’t have symptoms.

[Cherie]

The daily exercise is meant to be alone or only with household members, letting your kids out to play football with the other local kids is completely irresponsible and for once, I agree with Adam on something like this, parents found to be allowing their children to do so, should be fined

100% its not exactly a difficult rule to interpret either :shrug:

This is what happening in Italy and Spain, people interpreted the rules to suit themselves, and they are where they are

[user104658]

To be fair, I don't see how you can possibly play football whilst staying more than 3m apart :think:

[Kizzy]

They can go out with a sibling or parent and exercise, ride a bike....jog, there are families with kids in our street they go out every day together and ride their bikes up and down, but they are not joining in with others kids on the street as they and their parents are obviously aware of what is acceptable, the kids come out at different times to other families


I dont know what part of do not meet others you are not getting.

Stay at home
Only go outside for food, health reasons or work (but only if you cannot work from home)
If you go out, stay 2 metres (6ft) away from other people at all times
Wash your hands as soon as you get home
Do not meet others, even friends or family.

You can spread the virus even if you don’t have symptoms.

I'm well aware of the advice cherie there's no need to be so patronising.

As long as they are social distancing for me there is no thread to a handful of kids outside. That's my opinion

[Liam-]

I'm well aware of the advice cherie there's no need to be so patronising.

As long as they are social distancing for me there is no thread to a handful of kids outside. That's my opinion

Do you think children playing football will choose to practice social distancing?

[Cherie]

I'm well aware of the advice cherie there's no need to be so patronising.

As long as they are social distancing for me there is no thread to a handful of kids outside. That's my opinion

You asked me a question, I answered, that’s not being patronising, I am a bit aghast that you can’t see how wrong it is

Your opinion against medical advice on how to break the virus chain, just wow

[MTVN]

To be fair, I don't see how you can possibly play football whilst staying more than 3m apart :think:

Exactly lol, it'd have to be a game where you're not allowed to tackle anyone or really move around at all

[AnnieK]

Unfortunately, I would love to let my son out to play football in the street but there is no way a child of his age would remember to stay 6ft away from the others. He has been playing football since he was 3, training twice a week on drills,spacing etc but get them in a game and its still swarm ball. Its tough but he just has toto play in the back garden for now. Luckily, we have a decent sizes back garden. I feel for kids (and their parents) who live in flats etc where getting fresh air is just not that easy.

[Zizu]

To be fair, I don't see how you can possibly play football whilst staying more than 3m apart :think:



They could always just avoid tackling/ close contact .. I spent hours with mates just passing a ball ( a good distance) to each other ... practicing techniques and controlling balls coming at you


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[Kizzy]

You asked me a question, I answered, that’s not being patronising, I am a bit aghast that you can’t see how wrong it is

Your opinion against medical advice on how to break the virus chain, just wow

Stay aghast .. I only asked for an example of exercise for kids not for you to parrot government 'advice'.

[Kizzy]

Unfortunately, I would love to let my son out to play football in the street but there is no way a child of his age would remember to stay 6ft away from the others. He has been playing football since he was 3, training twice a week on drills,spacing etc but get them in a game and its still swarm ball. Its tough but he just has toto play in the back garden for now. Luckily, we have a decent sizes back garden. I feel for kids (and their parents) who live in flats etc where getting fresh air is just not that easy.

Like these kids who live in back to back terraces?

[Beso]

They could always just avoid tackling/ close contact .. I spent hours with mates just passing a ball ( a good distance) to each other ... practicing techniques and controlling balls coming at you


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Very true, I am.also a master of the long ball after years of this game.

But I would still plonk them all in front of a warm fire with a nice book atm.

[Zizu]

Very true, I am.also a master of the long ball after years of this game.



But I would still plonk them all in front of a warm fire with a nice book atm.



They’ve all got Xbox’s or PS4s ... we had flamin Monopoly :(


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[Kizzy]

All change!!!

This flip flop govt is about to change it's mind again... get your ball out kids!

Business has decided it's worth a few 1000 dead to get everyone back to work, forget antibodies or any silly testing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html

[bots]

All change!!!

This flip flop govt is about to change it's mind again... get your ball out kids!

Business has decided it's worth a few 1000 dead to get everyone back to work, forget antibodies or any silly testing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html

reading the article, it is one guy, not in government who is saying he never agreed with the lock down strategy in the first place

I know you don't like this government Kizzy, but please stick to the actual facts

[Cherie]

Stay aghast .. I only asked for an example of exercise for kids not for you to parrot government 'advice'.


It’s worth parroting the advice who knows it might sink in at some point

[user104658]

All change!!!

This flip flop govt is about to change it's mind again... get your ball out kids!

Business has decided it's worth a few 1000 dead to get everyone back to work, forget antibodies or any silly testing.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html



reading the article, it is one guy, not in government who is saying he never agreed with the lock down strategy in the first place

I know you don't like this government Kizzy, but please stick to the actual facts

It's a bit early to be slamming the breaks yet. They will need to do some serious re-evaluation if we're still in lockdown by the end of May, though.

I know that when you take a moment to think about it Kizzy, you of all people on here do understand that poverty kills just as surely as any virus. We need to be pragmatic and very careful.

[Josy]

He has said today
he still has a Fever
so will remain in his Downing St. Flat.

He also stated Good Weather
tomorrow but he wants you to stay at home?

Somehow I think many will go out
ignore the PM.I also think many will venture out this weekend, I was out early this morning just a walk round my small village and the amount of people already out and about was surprising.

On the topic of Boris, I thought he looked ill on the video stream.

[Josy]

The daily exercise is meant to be alone or only with household members, letting your kids out to play football with the other local kids is completely irresponsible and for once, I agree with Adam on something like this, parents found to be allowing their children to do so, should be finedThis.

[Josy]

They could always just avoid tackling/ close contact .. I spent hours with mates just passing a ball ( a good distance) to each other ... practicing techniques and controlling balls coming at you


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProKids aren't going to remember or bother to stick to a safe distance.

The rules are clear and stretching them little by little to suit is just going to cause these lockdowns to drag on for longer.

[arista]

I also think many will venture out this weekend, I was out early this morning just a walk round my small village and the amount of people already out and about was surprising.

On the topic of Boris, I thought he looked ill on the video stream.


Yes PM , Still with a Fever.

I went to M&S Foods
early some food Shelves
filled with booze
but still a wide choice of Quality food.
Just make sure you check dates
as some sell by tomorrow.


The 60p Whole Cucumber now comes from Kent.

[Kizzy]

reading the article, it is one guy, not in government who is saying he never agreed with the lock down strategy in the first place

I know you don't like this government Kizzy, but please stick to the actual facts

I posted an article based on the views of a government advisor... not sure why me keeping you informed of that upsets you so much. My views are neither here or there, He is again advocating herd immunity, that is a fact...don't shoot the messenger.

[arista]

yes, and why go to parks, beaches when you can just sit outside in your garden or on your balcony


Many have Locked Gates.

[Kizzy]

It’s worth parroting the advice who knows it might sink in at some point

You carry on being as rude and patronising as you like then cherie, I'm used to it.
Fact is when or if the advice changes there will be those who toe the govt line just because they've been told to regardless of whether the government themselves are following expert advice. This is not an admirable trait in anyone imo.

[Kizzy]

It's a bit early to be slamming the breaks yet. They will need to do some serious re-evaluation if we're still in lockdown by the end of May, though.

I know that when you take a moment to think about it Kizzy, you of all people on here do understand that poverty kills just as surely as any virus. We need to be pragmatic and very careful.

It does, however I do not believe for a moment the reasoning given for the rethink on herd immunity, that the lockdown is impacting on the poorest in society and that's seen as a negative let alone the reason for a rethink?...
Nah, I don't buy it, from the designers of austerity which impacted on the vulnerable like a virus? Nope.

[user104658]

It does, however I do not believe for a moment the reasoning given for the rethink on herd immunity, that the lockdown is impacting on the poorest in society and that's seen as a negative let alone the reason for a rethink?...
Nah, I don't buy it, from the designers of austerity which impacted on the vulnerable like a virus? Nope.Well no their own reason would be to protect their own interests (as always). Nevertheless, when economies shrink or worse, crash, it is the poorest who suffer the most. That much we do know, from all across history.

[Cherie]

You carry on being as rude and patronising as you like then cherie, I'm used to it.
Fact is when or if the advice changes there will be those who toe the govt line just because they've been told to regardless of whether the government themselves are following expert advice. This is not an admirable trait in anyone imo.

The advice will of course change at some point :facepalm: there isn’t a lot we can do to help the situation apart from adhere to the advice as best we can, if you want to ignore that kizzy that’s up to you of course but when all this is over at least those that followed the guidance can say they tried to save lives in this small way and that really is an admirable trait :thumbs:

[Kizzy]

The advice will of course change at some point :facepalm: there isn’t a lot we can do to help the situation apart from adhere to the advice as best we can, if you want to ignore that kizzy that’s up to you of course but when all this is over at least those that followed the guidance can say they tried to save lives in this small way and that really is an admirable trait :thumbs:

Emoji wisdom cherie?
As a key worker I do follow the advice thank you very much and resent your implication that I personally haven't. ..

Get some perspective, I commented on an article showing a handful of kids with no garden having a kickabout, calm yourself.

[Zizu]

Hope he’s not gonna get a serious bout of it .. there are so many who start feeling better around day 7ish then drop into serious illness very quickly..


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[Cherie]

Emoji wisdom cherie?
As a key worker I do follow the advice thank you very much and resent your implication that I personally haven't. ..

Get some perspective, I commented on an article showing a handful of kids with no garden having a kickabout, calm yourself.

I’m confused, so it’s not admirable to follow government advice but you are a key worker and you do lol

Garden or no garden there is a way to exercise that will not further the spread of the disease and endanger lives

[Kizzy]

I’m confused, so it’s not admirable to follow government advice but you are a key worker and you do lol

Garden or no garden there is a way to exercise that will not further the spread of the disease and endanger lives

I'm a key worker and I have to yes, not that I think there is anything admirable about this govt at all tbh.
So kids running about is ok as long as there is no ball involved...got it.

[bots]

I'm a key worker and I have to yes, not that I think there is anything admirable about this govt at all tbh.
So kids running about is ok as long as there is no ball involved...got it.

Kizzy, you are being argumentative on purpose, and it's a forum so we have to expect that, but you know fine well what the government guidelines are and are deliberately winding people up on a very emotive topic.

[Cherie]

I'm a key worker and I have to yes, not that I think there is anything admirable about this govt at all tbh.
So kids running about is ok as long as there is no ball involved...got it.

Show me where I said the government was admirable?

And as for the ‘no ball thing’ once again you haven’t got it at all, so there seems little point elaborating any further :laugh:

[Cherie]

Kizzy, you are being argumentative on purpose, and it's a forum so we have to expect that, but you know fine well what the government guidelines are and are deliberately winding people up on a very emotive topic.

:clap1:

[arista]

I'm a key worker and I have to yes, not that I think there is anything admirable about this govt at all tbh.
So kids running about is ok as long as there is no ball involved...got it.



Thats Good Kizzy
we need you

[Kizzy]

Kizzy, you are being argumentative on purpose, and it's a forum so we have to expect that, but you know fine well what the government guidelines are and are deliberately winding people up on a very emotive topic.

I posted a newspaper article and had an opinion on it,I'm getting a bit sick of seeing you try to police the debate, please stop.

[Kizzy]

Show me where I said the government was admirable?

And as for the ‘no ball thing’ once again you haven’t got it at all, so there seems little point elaborating any further :laugh:

I'm not being drawn out by you any longer, you are becoming increasingly insulting. I've stated my opinion.

[Cherie]

If I were a key worker and had no choice but to go to work, I wouldn’t be advocating people stretching the rules, we can be like this for a few weeks or a few months the choice is really up to the general population as to how long this lasts

[Kizzy]

Well you're not, just trying to be objective for the kids with no garden as I said earlier. You've made your point clear.

[Cherie]

Well you're not, just trying to be objective for the kids with no garden as I said earlier. You've made your point clear.

I thank my lucky stars every day that I am not and neither are any of my family, I do however have many colleagues who have been redeployed from their usual roles to work on Covid Wards in the NHS, and they are traumatised by what they are having to face every day as well as trying to juggle their other commitments, I have a colleague who has been redeployed contact me on Friday to cancel something I had booked for him as he is suffering breathing difficulties, there are many people on TiBB who have to go out to work every day and put their health and their families health at risk, so I don't care if these kids have to give up playing football in the streets with their mates for a few months.

[Nicky91]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11332784/fears-for-boris-health/

fears for Boris's health, the sun reports

[Kazanne]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11332784/fears-for-boris-health/

fears for Boris's health, the sun reports

I really hope he is ok, also his partner who I believe also has it or is recovering from it.

[Nicky91]

I really hope he is ok, also his partner who I believe also has it or is recovering from it.

his fiancee yes hope she and her unborn child will recover and that the baby is ok

[Zizu]

Boris has been admitted to hospital !!


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[bots]

Boris has been admitted to hospital !!


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yep, just heard, this isn't looking good

[LaLaLand]

:omgno:

[Kash Doll]

Chile

https://getlongnails.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/tenor-5.gif

[user104658]

I read earlier today that he still had a temperature (10 days into symptoms developing)... That is an awful long time to be running a fever.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's in ICU or severe condition, they may just be taking precautions incase he develops pneumonia. Other politicians who have had it have been recovered within a week so to still be running a temp at 10 days is a concern.

[bots]

one thing i know is that they won't be telling us the whole truth, and he wouldn't be in hospital unless he needed to be ... so many tests etc could be done where he is

[Denver]

He has been admitted to hospital

[Zizu]

I read earlier today that he still had a temperature (10 days into symptoms developing)... That is an awful long time to be running a fever.

It doesn't necessarily mean he's in ICU or severe condition, they may just be taking precautions incase he develops pneumonia. Other politicians who have had it have been recovered within a week so to still be running a temp at 10 days is a concern.



Sky had a specialist on earlier speculating that a high temp after 7 days (10 days in Boris’s case) can suggest secondary pneumonia


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[Zizu]

Sky had a specialist on earlier speculating that a high temp after 7 days (10 days in Boris’s case) can suggest secondary pneumonia


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[The Slim Reaper]

Anyone know if Sky had a specialist on earlier speculating that a high temp after 7 days (10 days in Boris’s case) can suggest secondary pneumonia?

[Zizu]

Anyone know if Sky had a specialist on earlier speculating that a high temp after 7 days (10 days in Boris’s case) can suggest secondary pneumonia?



Why would I make that up ?

I have zero medical knowledge for one thing !



You cast doubt over Sky News yet you happily quotes snippets from Twitter ..

Laughable


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[Cherie]

Tbh he hasn’t looked well for a few days, I hope he recovers

[Zizu]

......,

[arista]

He has been admitted to hospital


Yes its Jumped into his Lungs

[The Slim Reaper]

Why would I make that up ?

I have zero medical knowledge for one thing !



You cast doubt over Sky News yet you happily quotes snippets from Twitter ..

Laughable


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Chill your boots dude, I was joking because you posted it twice.

Where on earth did I cast doubt on anything?

[arista]

Sky had a specialist on earlier speculating that a high temp after 7 days (10 days in Boris’s case) can suggest secondary pneumonia


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Yes Covid 19 can Kill.

[Cherie]

Yes Covid 19 can Kill.

Gosh really, who knew

[arista]

Raab MP
must take over

[Kash Doll]

Raab MP
must take over

The descent into hell complete

[Kazanne]

I really hope he recovers, doesn't his partner have it too ��

[arista]

I really hope he recovers, doesn't his partner have it too ��

Yes she is also has it.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/7B54/production/_111627513_telegraph.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/A264/production/_111627514_times.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/C974/production/_111627515_mail-1.jpg

[Kizzy]

I thank my lucky stars every day that I am not and neither are any of my family, I do however have many colleagues who have been redeployed from their usual roles to work on Covid Wards in the NHS, and they are traumatised by what they are having to face every day as well as trying to juggle their other commitments, I have a colleague who has been redeployed contact me on Friday to cancel something I had booked for him as he is suffering breathing difficulties, there are many people on TiBB who have to go out to work every day and put their health and their families health at risk, so I don't care if these kids have to give up playing football in the streets with their mates for a few months.

This is not covid top trumps cherie... I said you've made your point clear stop goading.

[Zizu]

Yes its Jumped into his Lungs



Where did you hear that snippet ??

Has that been confirmed officially ?


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[Zizu]

Chill your boots dude, I was joking because you posted it twice.

Where on earth did I cast doubt on anything?



Chill my boots !!

With people dying all around us you decide make a poorly timed and badly explained joke and then expect me to be calm !!


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[Cherie]

This is not covid top trumps cherie... I said you've made your point clear stop goading.

It's not on me if you feel goaded as that was not the intention

[user104658]

He has potentially hindered his recovery by staying in charge of government... I was reading earlier about the links between sleep, adrenaline and fever. Basically when you have a fever, it tends to "break" when you're in a relaxed deep-sleep state and the process is held back by high adrenaline levels. Essentially if you don't let yourself relax when you're ill, the fever can fail to break, your immune system doesn't operate anywhere near full capacity, and that massively increases the risk of developing a secondary infection (like pneumonia). That's why they start to be concerned when people's temp is still up at 7 days. Ideally, if your immune system is doing its job, it should be down within 3 - 5 days.

Basically the stress and probably sleep deprivation that comes with being PM may well be part of what's stopped him from making a timely recovery.

[thesheriff443]

He has potentially hindered his recovery by staying in charge of government... I was reading earlier about the links between sleep, adrenaline and fever. Basically when you have a fever, it tends to "break" when you're in a relaxed deep-sleep state and the process is held back by high adrenaline levels. Essentially if you don't let yourself relax when you're ill, the fever can fail to break, your immune system doesn't operate anywhere near full capacity, and that massively increases the risk of developing a secondary infection (like pneumonia). That's why they start to be concerned when people's temp is still up at 7 days. Ideally, if your immune system is doing its job, it should be down within 3 - 5 days.

Basically the stress and probably sleep deprivation that comes with being PM may well be part of what's stopped him from making a timely recovery.

That’s pure speculation, the truth is some get the virus worse than others.

[bots]

i don't think anyone should be complacent that catches this virus, it's shown itself to be too deadly. This stiff upper lip attitude of carrying on regardless is the wrong example to set too

[Kazanne]

That’s pure speculation, the truth is some get the virus worse than others.

Plus IF he had gone straight to bed to rest he would have been accused of passing the buck for others to sort out, I for one hope he recovers quickly and gets back onto this.:wavey:

[thesheriff443]

Plus IF he had gone straight to bed to rest he would have been accused of passing the buck for others to sort out, I for one hope he recovers quickly and gets back onto this.:wavey:

Hi

[user104658]

That’s pure speculation, the truth is some get the virus worse than others.I said "potentially" because yes it's speculation, a possible reason, not a definite reason. That's what "potentially" means :idc:.

However, no, it isn't "pure" speculation - not getting enough rest makes it harder to recover from illness, that is 100% medical fact. The part that's speculation is assuming he hasn't been resting properly, maybe he has been getting plenty of sleep and isn't stressed at all... I just think that seems unlikely. I'm not blaming him either, he's not in a position where he can just stop stressing and relax unfortunately.

Its still worth saying for other people though. Like BOTS said, some people have a "stiff upper lip, just push through it" approach to illness and it's worth pointing out that it can hinder recovery.

[thesheriff443]

I said "potentially" because yes it's speculation, a possible reason, not a definite reason. That's what "potentially" means :idc:.

However, no, it isn't "pure" speculation - not getting enough rest makes it harder to recover from illness, that is 100% medical fact. The part that's speculation is assuming he hasn't been resting properly, maybe he has been getting plenty of sleep and isn't stressed at all... I just think that seems unlikely. I'm not blaming him either, he's not in a position where he can just stop stressing and relax unfortunately.

Its still worth saying for other people though. Like BOTS said, some people have a "stiff upper lip, just push through it" approach to illness and it's worth pointing out that it can hinder recovery.

I think you are trying to sell meat to a vegatarian, I ain’t buying it.

[user104658]

I think you are trying to sell meat to a vegatarian, I ain’t buying it.OK sheriff, rest doesn't help, if you wake up tomorrow with a fever **** off and do some jumping jacks. :thumbs:

[thesheriff443]

OK sheriff, rest doesn't help, if you wake up tomorrow with a fever **** off and do some jumping jacks. :thumbs:

I think once again, I will pass!, on your medical advice

[user104658]

I think once again, I will pass!, on your medical adviceI literally don't care what you do sheriff, I just hope other people understand that sleep and rest is important if they get a fever. I mean I feel like most people already know that but you do you, just please don't advise other people that "rest doesn't help" ffs.

[Niamh.]

I literally don't care what you do sheriff, I just hope other people understand that sleep and rest is important if they get a fever. I mean I feel like most people already know that but you do you, just please don't advise other people that "rest doesn't help" ffs.Sleeping through sickness is what I've always done, people shouldn't ignore their bodies and they scream at you to rest when you're very sick

[thesheriff443]

I literally don't care what you do sheriff, I just hope other people understand that sleep and rest is important if they get a fever. I mean I feel like most people already know that but you do you, just please don't advise other people that "rest doesn't help" ffs.

I don’t go around offering people medical advice or speculate to why people may have a more severe reaction to Covid 19.

[user104658]

I don’t go around offering people medical advice or speculate to why people may have a more severe reaction to Covid 19.I don't go around calling people "parasites" and telling them to "go and swallow more spunk" so I guess we'll just have to accept our differences and move on.

[thesheriff443]

I don't go around calling people "parasites" and telling them to "go and swallow more spunk" so I guess we'll just have to accept our differences and move on.

Jog on Clearly holding on to someone else’s argument.

[The Slim Reaper]

Chill my boots !!

With people dying all around us you decide make a poorly timed and badly explained joke and then expect me to be calm !!


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Apology accepted.

[arista]

I don't go around calling people "parasites" and telling them to "go and swallow more spunk" so I guess we'll just have to accept our differences and move on.


Yes Wicked

[user104658]

Jog on Clearly holding on to someone else’s argument.

I don't care who you said it to, the fact that you said it at all tells me everything I need to know about you. I don't like that the mods brushed it under the carpet and are insisting that everyone simply forget about it but that's their business - I'm not going to.

[thesheriff443]

I don't care who you said it to, the fact that you said it at all tells me everything I need to know about you. I don't like that the mods brushed it under the carpet and are insisting that everyone simply forget about it but that's their business - I'm not going to.

Back on topic

[user104658]

Back on topic

For now :hee:

[thesheriff443]

For now :hee:

No! it’s over stop trying to get a reaction from me.

[Niamh.]

I don't care who you said it to, the fact that you said it at all tells me everything I need to know about you. I don't like that the mods brushed it under the carpet and are insisting that everyone simply forget about it but that's their business - I'm not going to.I never even saw that comment tbh, did you report it?

[The Slim Reaper]

I never even saw that comment tbh, did you report it?

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366079&page=4

Your mod powers will reveal all the deleted posts.

[Niamh.]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366079&page=4



Your mod powers will reveal all the deleted posts.Oh just had a read through, that was a pretty nasty argument all round tbf, I get why it was all just deleted because there were a lot of insults coming from all sides but also why that one comment stood out too. I will ask for there to be a review of it though

[thesheriff443]

Oh just had a read through, that was a pretty nasty argument all round tbf, I get why it was all just deleted because there were a lot of insults coming from all sides but also why that one comment stood out too. I will ask for there to be a review of it though

No you bloody well won’t and this should not be discussed openly on the forum or is mob rule from now on

[Zizu]

He has potentially hindered his recovery by staying in charge of government... I was reading earlier about the links between sleep, adrenaline and fever. Basically when you have a fever, it tends to "break" when you're in a relaxed deep-sleep state and the process is held back by high adrenaline levels. Essentially if you don't let yourself relax when you're ill, the fever can fail to break, your immune system doesn't operate anywhere near full capacity, and that massively increases the risk of developing a secondary infection (like pneumonia). That's why they start to be concerned when people's temp is still up at 7 days. Ideally, if your immune system is doing its job, it should be down within 3 - 5 days.

Basically the stress and probably sleep deprivation that comes with being PM may well be part of what's stopped him from making a timely recovery.



Interesting and understandable . Thanks


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[Niamh.]

No you bloody well won’t and this should not be discussed openly on the forum or is mob rule from now onHonestly I was just a bit shocked at hearing the actual comment Sheriff but yes you're right, I will stop discussing it on the main board now.

[Zizu]

No you bloody well won’t and this should not be discussed openly on the forum or is mob rule from now on



The post above has rather threatening undertones ...


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[Kizzy]

Ts is making a really valid point I totally agree, if you have any illness or virus that requires rest to fight off you should be off work and resting, it's common sense.
Boris spent so many years trying to get into no 10 he's understandably reluctant to hand over the reins, looks like now he doesn't have a choice. I wouldn't wish this on anyone and obvously hope he recovers asap.

[user104658]

Ts is making a really valid point I totally agree, if you have any illness or virus that requires rest to fight off you should be off work and resting, it's common sense.
Boris spent so many years trying to get into no 10 he's understandably reluctant to hand over the reins, looks like now he doesn't have a choice. I wouldn't wish this on anyone and obvously hope he recovers asap.

I actually do feel for the guy ( :umm2: ) because in a position of authority like that it's not even as simple as checking out - even if he did totally hand over to someone else, can a PM really sleep soundly and not be in a state of extreme stress? In fact not being kept totally up-to-date might even make the stress worse. It's a bit of a Catch-22.

My wife was talking about a similar thing a few days ago, how things are different for Mental Health staff in wards vs in community MH/addictions. In the wards when you clock off, you hand over your patients to the next person on shift. In the community your patients are your patients... you can still take annual leave, you can still be off sick if you're sick, but you still feel responsible for those people and think about how they're getting on in your absense, worry about them if they seemed in a bad way when you last saw them, etc. She's quite worried about this at the moment actually - phone contact only, and much less contact than normal even with that. For obvious reasons, but she still feels a duty of care for those people and it isn't quite being met under the exceptional circumstances.

I imagine you could scale that up country-wide for a PM. Even if he takes time off, he'll still overall feel responsible. Then again... neither are the sort of job I'd take on, for that reason. I know I need to be able to clock out from work outside of work hours and not worry about what's happening. People know the responsibilities they're taking on... but it still must not be the easiest thing in the world.

/ ramble.

[Smithy]

No you bloody well won’t and this should not be discussed openly on the forum or is mob rule from now on

Screaming @ you telling a mod not to do their job

[arista]

[B]
He is not getting better

I would say he is on Oxygen
but will not let anyone know of that fact.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-boris-johnson-in-good-spirits-after-comfortable-night-in-hospital-11969302

[Kizzy]

I actually do feel for the guy ( :umm2: ) because in a position of authority like that it's not even as simple as checking out - even if he did totally hand over to someone else, can a PM really sleep soundly and not be in a state of extreme stress? In fact not being kept totally up-to-date might even make the stress worse. It's a bit of a Catch-22.

My wife was talking about a similar thing a few days ago, how things are different for Mental Health staff in wards vs in community MH/addictions. In the wards when you clock off, you hand over your patients to the next person on shift. In the community your patients are your patients... you can still take annual leave, you can still be off sick if you're sick, but you still feel responsible for those people and think about how they're getting on in your absense, worry about them if they seemed in a bad way when you last saw them, etc. She's quite worried about this at the moment actually - phone contact only, and much less contact than normal even with that. For obvious reasons, but she still feels a duty of care for those people and it isn't quite being met under the exceptional circumstances.

I imagine you could scale that up country-wide for a PM. Even if he takes time off, he'll still overall feel responsible. Then again... neither are the sort of job I'd take on, for that reason. I know I need to be able to clock out from work outside of work hours and not worry about what's happening. People know the responsibilities they're taking on... but it still must not be the easiest thing in the world.

/ ramble.
Well I can see the comparison to an extent, however I'd say his motives were more about relinquishing power than any noble sense of responsibility.

[bots]

The maximum wait on tests would have been a couple of hours, so there is a more fundamental reason for him being in hospital.

He will be getting the best possible treatment available, we know that, so we will just have to see how it pans out

[bots]

Well I can see the comparison to an extent, however I'd say his motives were more about relinquishing power than any noble sense of responsibility.

he may look random, but he is a very driven guy, and those types of people tend to focus on things till they are done, they can't help it .... i used to be like that until i got older and wiser :laugh:

So yes, he won't want to relinquish the reins, but if he is knocked out by a sedative he doesn't have any choice

[James]

I got his letter in the mail today.

[user104658]

[B]
He is not getting better

I would say he is on Oxygen
but will not let anyone know of that fact.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-boris-johnson-in-good-spirits-after-comfortable-night-in-hospital-11969302

Maybe, worth mentioning though that there's a difference between oxygen on demand via mask (which a lot of moderate cases benefit from) and being on full ventilator. There's also other reasons to be in, like being on fluids if the main issue is the fever. To keep things in perspective - it's worth remembering that 20% of cases need hospital treatment but only about 5% of cases are critical (needing ICU / ventilator). 3/4 of hospital treated cases are not critical so it's still more likely than not that he'll be OK - unless we hear that he's been transferred to ICU. That's when survival rate drops to 50/50.

[Zizu]

[B]
He is not getting better

I would say he is on Oxygen
but will not let anyone know of that fact.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-boris-johnson-in-good-spirits-after-comfortable-night-in-hospital-11969302



So pure speculation on your part ??

I haven’t seen anything about it ‘going onto his lungs OR him being on oxygen ..

They’ve just said he’s had tests done because he’s still got the fever


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[arista]

Maybe, worth mentioning though that there's a difference between oxygen on demand via mask (which a lot of moderate cases benefit from) and being on full ventilator. There's also other reasons to be in, like being on fluids if the main issue is the fever. To keep things in perspective - it's worth remembering that 20% of cases need hospital treatment but only about 5% of cases are critical (needing ICU / ventilator). 3/4 of hospital treated cases are not critical so it's still more likely than not that he'll be OK - unless we hear that he's been transferred to ICU. That's when survival rate drops to 50/50.


If Course
but sadly all that transfer
could be told to the Public - a Day later,

He even has a Armed Guard
as he should have.

[user104658]

I got his letter in the mail today.

:clap1: Boris still sending mail from his hospital bed.

Burn it though James, it'll be covered in the Covids.

[Cherie]

I got his letter in the mail today.

same :laugh: wash your hands!

[James]

same :laugh: wash your hands!

I do that with all the mail. :shocked:

[bots]

i have a quarantine system for my deliveries now. Anything that is paper/cardboard doesnt get handled for 8 hours, anything solid doesnt get handled for 72 hours

[user104658]

i have a quarantine system for my deliveries now. Anything that is paper/cardboard doesnt get handled for 8 hours, anything solid doesnt get handled for 72 hours

I just remove the outer packaging layer & bin then wash hands. The likelihood of catching anything from inside a letter or parcel after delivery is tiny.

[Cherie]

I do that with all the mail. :shocked:

Yes but you need an extra Happy Birthday :laugh:

[user104658]

Ooh I got my letter from Boris too, this thread reminded me that I sat a pile of post to the side today because our Kalimba arrived and I got excited :D

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0222/2528/9288/products/89b380ea887ce5efc824fda4dd660696_800x.jpg

It was well packaged so won't have any covids on it

[Zizu]

i have a quarantine system for my deliveries now. Anything that is paper/cardboard doesnt get handled for 8 hours, anything solid doesnt get handled for 72 hours



We do similar plus clean most things with an antibacterial wipe ..

Maybe better to extend your paper/cardboard time as well .

Tests in the US show that the virus lives on copper for 4 hours , paper/cardboard for 24 hours and plastic / stainless steel or similar for 3 DAYS


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[Kizzy]

We do similar plus clean most things with an antibacterial wipe ..

Maybe better to extend your paper/cardboard time as well .

Tests in the US show that the virus lives on copper for 4 hours , paper/cardboard for 24 hours and plastic / stainless steel or similar for 3 DAYS


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I read 9 days on metal surfaces :/

[arista]

Ooh I got my letter from Boris too, this thread reminded me that I sat a pile of post to the side today because our Kalimba arrived and I got excited :D

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0222/2528/9288/products/89b380ea887ce5efc824fda4dd660696_800x.jpg

It was well packaged so won't have any covids on it


Yes I have one of Those
Earth Wind & Fire
Great Band Leader
The Late Maurice White Plays the Kalimba
mic 'ed up on stage.

The African Finger Keyboard
can get out of tune , though.............

[Kizzy]

Ooh I got my letter from Boris too, this thread reminded me that I sat a pile of post to the side today because our Kalimba arrived and I got excited :D

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0222/2528/9288/products/89b380ea887ce5efc824fda4dd660696_800x.jpg

It was well packaged so won't have any covids on it
How strange, I fell in a YouTube hole and wound up watching a woman play one of these bet it kills your fingertips at first.. don't be cheap ;)

[user104658]

I read 9 days on metal surfaces :/

Only in very specific circumstances, things like temperature changes and movement affect it. Like it was found after 9 days on some surfaces in cabins on the "infected" cruise ship, because the rooms had been blocked off totally untouched for that whole time and the temperature was pretty constant. Also it's always just "up to" x hours/days, it CAN survive on those surfaces for that amount of time but the risk drops considerably quite quickly.

Obviously still take precautions though.

[user104658]

How strange, I fell in a YouTube hole and wound up watching a woman play one of these bet it kills your fingertips at first.. don't be cheap ;)

Not too bad on fingertips but you have to watch your nails!

[Kizzy]

Not too bad on fingertips but you have to watch your nails!

Omg did you break a nail?!
Catastrophe! Send the damn thing back dahling ;)

[user104658]

Omg did you break a nail?!
Catastrophe! Send the damn thing back dahling ;)

It makes a much clearer/crisper sound if you pluck with nails but my right hand thumb nail lifted a tiny bit and now it stings :bawling:. I'm suffering for my art.

My youngest has gotten the guitar off the hook it hangs on gathering dust, too. A cacophony in here today.

[user104658]

0QMXc4rBw7k

Me by the end of this week :hee:

This thread has gone right off topic :umm2:.

[Josiah.]

Welp, this just got even more interesting: the PM is still in hospital, but is now in intensive care.

[arista]

Johnson Is Far Worse


Intensive Care

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-prime-minister-boris-johnson-moved-to-intensive-care-after-condition-worsens-11969587

[Cherie]

Not good 50/50 now

[user104658]

He's not on ventilator (yet?) but yes looks like he has increasingly worrisome symptoms.

[user104658]

Not good 50/50 nowThat's on ventilator, he isn't on one as yet. It's still a very real possibility though.

[Vanessa]

Omg this is really sad :sad::bawling:

[MB.]

Hope he pulls through

[Shaun]

That's...unbelievable, really.

[arista]

That's...unbelievable, really.

He is So Large

[Josiah.]

Sky News is saying that it's precautionary, just in case he does need a ventilator.

[Beso]

I feel so sick right now.

He shouldn't have clapped...I will say a prayer tonight that's for sure.

[MTVN]

:worry:

[Saph]

aw x

[Josiah.]

I'm from the US, I don't like him that much in terms of politics, but gosh darn, I am worried to the Nth degree for the PM. This COVID-19 stuff is really serious.

[user104658]

If this go badly people are going to go on full meltdown I think.

[Josiah.]

Also, the Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has been asked to deputise where necessary.

[Beso]

If this go badly people are going to go on full meltdown I think.

Are the Russians still up north of you?

[hijaxers]

Still in shock from my friend losing her aunty today ! Now this :nono:

[Cherie]

That's on ventilator, he isn't on one as yet. It's still a very real possibility though.

Oh right, I guess taking no chances if he pulls out of this I can see a big change in how the NHS is looked after by the Tories

[Cherie]

Still in shock from my friend losing her aunty today ! Now this :nono:

Aw sorry to hear that Jax

[Denver]

Alot of sick labour fans wishing him dead on twitter,now is not the time for a politics battle this is about a human being being very Ill like thousands of others with the same virus

[hijaxers]

Aw sorry to hear that Jax

Yes i know its awful , she was tested for covid this morning died afternoon, she did have cancer but was taken in unable to breathe 3hrs later she was gone, so very sad , now they all awaiting results. The ripples go out.