S12, Episode 7 - "Madonna, The Unauthorised Rusical" (preview)

[Shaun]

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Who's gonna get the part with like 2 lines and then get told off for "not standing out" this week then, girlies?

[Jigs]

Hoping Widow Von'Du carries the performance element of this episode just as she did in the first episode :love:

[Captain.Remy]

I fear for Crystal, because tbh I want Widow Von'Du out as soon as possible. She's mediocre and not living up to the hype.

I can already feel the messy runway looks knowing the theme is apparently Michelle Visage's iconic looks :skull: (when did she ever have some in the first place?)

[lewis111]

Widow and Heidi are the only two worth stanning this season

[MB.]

I'm not watching until the morning but I heard Gigi slandered Patti LuPone, so she can choke!

[Captain.Remy]

-Widow still crashed herself and it is glorious to watch. She's so annoying, full of herself and thinks she's the best when clearly she's not going near the top. She's unbeareable on Untucked too.

-Unpopular opinion, but I like that we saw more of Sherry because apart from what happened, she still is a great performer and she brings LOOKS.

-This is now confirmed, S12 is officially the least likeable cast of all time. Apart from Heidi and Crystal, they're all mean and terrible.
It's not fun to watch them talk to each other, forcing themselves to laugh or cry. It's not 'fun shade", it's really mean and low. They really don't like each other and it shows. If it was the most talented and competitive season I wouldn't mind too much, but the talent level is just above S11 :skull:

-Brita as a man can get it 24/7 from me, but as a Drag Queen it was her time to go. And mess @ her fakeness at the beginning over Aiden. :rolleyes:

-Jan shoud have won this week, but I guess that's what you get for hyping yourself way too much. Jan being pressed about it is hilarious too. At least it gives us a story line this season other than Aiden bothering everybody.

-Now Gigi is clearly the winner of the season by nailing looks, Snatch Game, a lip sync, and a Rusical...But she's unlikeable!
At least Ru made it less predictable for Aquaria in S10.

-Once again, I see zero relevance of having a top model and a politician to judge a musical. wtf is happening with runway themes and guest judges appearance order this year is beyond me.

[Black Dagger]

I give up.

[Amy Jade]

I like Heidi more than Brita but I thought Heidi got destroyed in the lip sync. She was low energy for most of it.

[Daniel-X]

Kinda done tbh with this season now, it’s painfully obvious now that Gigi is the winner and everyone else just feels like an extra in her one-woman show.

I would care less if she wasn’t painfully boring, her ‘fashion’ looks were actually gorgeous (all her looks have been nothing on Aquaria, Violet, Raja etc. already) and all three of her wins weren’t TIGHTLY contested by Jaida (Ball episode), Sherry (Snatch Game) and Jan (this week).

Jan and Jaida deserved a better season than this **** show :sad: I’m sorry gals x

[Daniel-X]

Oh and I would’ve actually given all three of those the win for those respective episodes and placed Gigi high, but hey ho x

[Braden]

I am SO over Gigi.

Will post more thoughts later but that's the gist of the episode from me.

[Amy Jade]

I dont get the gigi hate at all

[Smithy]

I like Heidi more than Brita but I thought Heidi got destroyed in the lip sync. She was low energy for most of it.

Bitch everyone likes Heidi more than Brita akskjsks

[Smithy]

Brita’s fake “I love aiden” at the beginning sent me and then when Jan was practising on stage and her talking head is like “Jan likes to think she’s the best” I was just like... the lack of self awareness???

Anyway, I thought it was a good Ep overall, everyone did pretty well, the right person went, the right person didn’t win, but oh well.

I think it’s been a good season so far idk what y’all are complaining about

[Shaun]

It's a good cast and a good season but yeah the predictable winner at this point is just SO disappointing. Especially when - as Daniel-X pointed out - all of her wins have been debatable. I STILL don't get what was so funny about her robot!

But then this show caters to the type of fan that think she actually beat Widow Von Du in the first lipsync :skull: so **** it, the show's gone to the dogs and the illiterate preteens who don't know **** about drag

[Samm]

great task/episode, a disaster of a outcome in results, jan deserved that, even widow did better then gigi? her michelle look was cute but it was basically laced lingerie and a blonde wig girl?

as said loved the task, however so so disappointed confessions madonna didn't get a nod? probably her most iconic era in the last twenty years?

[Jigs]

Everyone pressed over Gigi because she has "no personality" but I'm getting heaps of personality from her? She tells it like it is (See: Heidi this week, Ru in the Snatch Game walkaround), she clearly has her head screwed on when it comes to portraying emotion/personality in her performances, AND she is a vocal narrator in confessionals also. You don't need to be hooping and hollering and bopping all around the workroom in order to have a personality. People just seem mad that she's steamrolling the competition but don't take it out on Gigi, take it out on the other queens who are failing to match her!

I do think this week should have been a double win between Jan and Gigi. However, Jan's entitled attitude STUNK this week. She assumed she'd win and was furious when she didn't. It was painfully obvious by the beaming smile on her face all week and how excited she was at her "runaway" performance, and this has been a consistent theme with Jan all season long.

Anyway, I thought this was one of the best Rusicals they've done. Not quite on the level of Bitch Perfect or Kardashian, but definitely more cohesive and generally well executed across the board unlike Cher, Trump, PharmaRusical or Glamazonian.

[Daniel-X]

great task/episode, a disaster of a outcome in results, jan deserved that, even widow did better then gigi? her michelle look was cute but it was basically laced lingerie and a blonde wig girl?

as said loved the task, however so so disappointed confessions madonna didn't get a nod? probably her most iconic era in the last twenty years?

This!

I really don’t understand how Gigi won over Jan this week, but I suppose I’ll just have to accept that this season is hers now.

[Smithy]

Imagine if Gigi bombed next week and went home, a scream

[Jigs]

One thing I think this season is missing is more fun in the workroom. Season 10 was a HOOT with lots of funny moments between Asia, Monét and Monique. We also had the Monét/Cracker friendship and the Kameron/Eureka friendship.

This season, I don't get a sense of who likes eachother and which of the queens are close friends. Too much time is spent crying over their traumas when we should be getting half and half drama/fun.

[Saph]

I enjoyed the ep, the musical was pretty good! I do think Jaida and Widow were the strongest and Jaidas runway was good too. Gigi winning was questionable but predictable.. if she can walk out in a bikini and win then you know shes the clear favourite.

Gigis madonna was definitely one of the best, and I think her win this week was slightly more justified than last weeks for that (awful) robot snatch game.. but you'd think Ru would let someone else have a win, considering Jaida, Widow, Crystal, Jan etc all did just as good as Gigi.

anyway thank GOD we finally say the back of Brita, she'd long outstayed her welcome

[lewis111]

The judging this season is pretty frustrating. I pretty much agree with everything said about Gigi so far - she's clearly a talented queen but God they are pushing so hard for her to win. Her look was SO basic and her performance didn't match to Jan's or Jaida's imo (there's nowhere near enough talk about how amazing Jaida look in the Rusical)
Idk why they want her to win so bad though, it's not like we haven't had a 21 year old white fashion queen who came in with a reputation with every thinking they had no personality but then proved that they did win the show storyline, give us something different!

[Captain.Remy]

It's a good cast and a good season but yeah the predictable winner at this point is just SO disappointing. Especially when - as Daniel-X pointed out - all of her wins have been debatable. I STILL don't get what was so funny about her robot!

But then this show caters to the type of fan that think she actually beat Widow Von Du in the first lipsync :skull: so **** it, the show's gone to the dogs and the illiterate preteens who don't know **** about drag

I agree with Widow deserving the first lipsync, and Gigi did rather good tbh

BUT
I am bit over the splits, drops, and all those stuff because overusing takes away the essence of a lipsync. A lot of queens think this is the way to go, and do that on songs that don't require any. (oh hey Brooke during the finale) Sometimes, a good lipsync is knowing your words and adding comedy and drama, not splitting your god damn knee open.

I mean, it's not just Widow, last year Brooke and Ivy were doing way too much for Sorry Not Sorry. And Widow was overusing it in the challenge and lipsync combined. Not taking any of her talent away though. Some people like to enjoy lipsyncs without all of that constantly.

[lewis111]

^I agree with the fact that doing flips and tricks doesn't always equal a good lipsync and that Widow maybe did a little too much - but it's not like Gigi delivered a hilarious never seen before lip-sync herself. She made a couple silly faces and shook about a little

But I do agree a proper funny and clever lip-sync tends to be better than a flip and splits one

[Captain.Remy]

The judging this season is pretty frustrating. I pretty much agree with everything said about Gigi so far - she's clearly a talented queen but God they are pushing so hard for her to win. Her look was SO basic and her performance didn't match to Jan's or Jaida's imo (there's nowhere near enough talk about how amazing Jaida look in the Rusical)
Idk why they want her to win so bad though, it's not like we haven't had a 21 year old white fashion queen who came in with a reputation with every thinking they had no personality but then proved that they did win the show storyline, give us something different!

Exactly. She's talented, but I can't get to like her other some others because some of her wins are questionnable and very close to other performances. Not saying she's not talented once again, but I don't get all this push to justify her win.

And she isn't showing to be someone having a great personality either. We're far from charismatic winners like Alaska, Bianca, Jinx, Bob, Trixie who had that special thing about them.

[Captain.Remy]

^I agree with the fact that doing flips and tricks doesn't always equal a good lipsync and that Widow maybe did a little too much - but it's not like Gigi delivered a hilarious never seen before lip-sync herself. She made a couple silly faces and shook about a little

But I do agree a proper funny and clever lip-sync tends to be better than a flip and splits one

And Ru acting so surprised/shocked everytime he sees it as if it's the first time :rolleyes: :skull:

[Saph]

we all know Sherry is lowkey killing the competition

[Jigs]

I agree with Widow deserving the first lipsync, and Gigi did rather good tbh

BUT
I am bit over the splits, drops, and all those stuff because overusing takes away the essence of a lipsync. A lot of queens think this is the way to go, and do that on songs that don't require any. (oh hey Brooke during the finale) Sometimes, a good lipsync is knowing your words and adding comedy and drama, not splitting your god damn knee open.

I mean, it's not just Widow, last year Brooke and Ivy were doing way too much for Sorry Not Sorry. And Widow was overusing it in the challenge and lipsync combined. Not taking any of her talent away though. Some people like to enjoy lipsyncs without all of that constantly.

TEA! Brooke and Yvie's double shantay was deserved but the lipsync was not as good as people made out. 1,000 kicks, spins and flips does not make a good lipsync!

Best lipsync performance ever is Trinity K. Bonet's "What A Man" because she conveyed the essence of the song so perfectly and there was not a death drop in sight!

[Shaun]

Are we on crazy pills or something? The first lipsync was Starships. Name a crazier and more appropriate song for a queen to go absolutely ballistic with tricks.

It was ridiculous for 'Sorry Not Sorry', yeah, and most of the finale performances... but for week one and nothing to lose, showboating is more than fair.

[Smithy]

I find it boring when it’s just trick and trick after trick, do it at a beat drop or when it’s thematically appropriate in the song, constantly is so monotonous and takes away from actual gag worthy splits/tricks

[MB.]

My, the jump cut from Jan saying "I haven't won any challenges but I'm not crying about it" to a montage of her bawling her eyes out in the next time trailer was hateful

[MB.]

Also, I'm still trying to work out the logic behind the claim I just read in this thread that the Kardashian rusical was one of the best there's ever been

[Captain.Remy]

Are we on crazy pills or something? The first lipsync was Starships. Name a crazier and more appropriate song for a queen to go absolutely ballistic with tricks.

It was ridiculous for 'Sorry Not Sorry', yeah, and most of the finale performances... but for week one and nothing to lose, showboating is more than fair.

Again, one or two is fine, but a whole lipsync filled with it isn't as impressive as doing a few to have a bigger impact. Even Nicky Minaj and Carlson were like "oh no wtf" (not in a bad bad way, but still). Now some people and a lot of Twitter gays who know nothing about drag shows think that a lipsync is bad if you don't split, drop kick or whatever, and it's not a good look.

Gigi didn't do any and yet she still managed to give another aspect and a funny one at that.

That being said, Widow deserved that first win for the challenge and how much effort she put into the lipsync (God bless her she busted her knee open, at least that shows commitment).

[Braden]

I agree the standard this season is high but it's unfortunate that it's being dominated by a queen who's been disqualified (and therefore has no edit) and a queen who isn't likeable. Personally, I think Gigi is worse than Aquaria and Yvie in terms of how arrogant she is. Her attitude towards Heidi in Untucked last week was ****ty and unnecessary, and she's starting to become overpraised. The fact we know her only threat (thus far) isn't going to win makes it boring to endure, and the edit/episodes are suffering as a result.

Widow was an absolute hoot this episode, I love that she was gunning for Jackie and called out the others for kicking queens while they're down. I felt sorry for Jan even though I haven't been a vocal supporter. She deserved the win and it's so weird how obsessed the show is with creating a coasting story-line for her. It just seems like the're bating her into a bad reaction.

As for the others, Crystal is remains my favourite. She's adorable. I like Jaida, yo-yo with Jackie but ultimately indifferent (her make-up was weird for both her Madonna and Michelle looks this ep)...and I think that's it? Other than Brita, who I actually felt sorry for this episode. Oh, and Heidi who was already mentioned but ...what is the state of your life if you don't like Heidi, tbh?

[Wizard.]

I think Gigi's win is becoming so obvious because her main competition would've been Sherry Pie but now she's been edited out... yeah.

I really enjoyed this ep, I enjoyed all of the girl's performances bar Brita's I nearly fell asleep. She thinks she's the queen of NYC she probably just has some fans at the club she performs at, nothing special.

[Wizard.]

My, the jump cut from Jan saying "I haven't won any challenges but I'm not crying about it" to a montage of her bawling her eyes out in the next time trailer was hateful

I screamed

[MB.]

I screamed

See also: a queen, I believe Jan (as Madonna) singing "my mum died when I was five" and Ru's immediate reaction being "I love it! :)"

[Shaun]

Just watched the episode.

It was an alright musical. I preferred the Pharmarusical and the Bitch Perfect ones but this is a solid third (including the Allstars ones... did AS4 have one? AS2 had the horrific Princess Diana thing, AS3 had the horrific "Thorgy is bottom-two despite doing a solid Stevie Nicks" thing).

Crystal surprised me, I assumed she'd be in the bottom two. Gigi and Jan were the correct top two but I still, for the life of me, can't understand that win... I mean the runway was a STRETCH as it was but to go for an animated video look that a grand total of 1400 people may have watched at one time? It was just... so blah.

It saddens me that Jan is being pigeon-holed into an Alexis Michelle edit (that "next time" segment at the end of this episode when they try to make fun of her for crying over not winning when it was pretty abundantly clear it was because Brita was her closest friend :skull:) but thankfully the fans are seeing through it and calling her a robbed queen. I don't think she's been KILLING it the whole season, she's often been forgettable... but she's deserved a good track record (on par with, say, Jaida's or Jackie's).

The challenge was hard to judge... I can't help but feel that Gigi got a lot of favourable choreography (I mean she had like 5 lifts when everyone else just had to repeat the same 8 steps). Brita being sent home for the wrong earring is a scream to me :love: she got a pretty good exit, with everyone being sad for her and a heartfelt farewell. She wasn't really that awful, bless her.

And the runway... I've said it before... since Kimonogate, it seems quite obvious that production have interfered when it comes to these "replicate looks of a celebrity" runways. I'm sure some S9 queens mentioned having to tell in advance which Lady Gaga looks they'd prepare for the premiere. So every time these runways pop up I (yes I overthink these things) just... fear that production bias will just meddle and say "yes Heidi... use that random ****ing poncho look that isn't at all flattering :)"

I suppose I shouldn't get too pessimistic about the outcome of the season when it's possible for a Valentinesque lipsync to happen... and with the absence of a live finale there's no real knowing who would win a lipsync vs. who... will someone even be crowned, etc. But with Sherry disqualified I just don't have a queen who's won enough challenges to support :shrug:

But then Yvie won the season with one challenge win vs. Brooke's 3, and that was shared with Scarlet Envy, so... (yes she won the music video challenge if that counted but shut up)...

[Saph]

But then Yvie won the season with one challenge win vs. Brooke's 3, and that was shared with Scarlet Envy, so...

this gives me hope

[Braden]

On the lip-syncs, I have to say that this season has probably been the worst for them so far.

[Smithy]

Does anyone else find Brita seems to over lip sync? I think it’s just cause her mouth is so ****ing big, but yeah, it’s off putting

[Jigs]

See also: a queen, I believe Jan (as Madonna) singing "my mum died when I was five" and Ru's immediate reaction being "I love it! :)"

I noticed this and screamed