Coronavirus: Ricky Gervais hits out at stars 'complaining from mansions' as NHS staff

[michael21]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-ricky-gervais-hits-out-at-stars-complaining-from-mansions-as-nhs-staff-risk-their-lives-11972950


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[Kazanne]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-ricky-gervais-hits-out-at-stars-complaining-from-mansions-as-nhs-staff-risk-their-lives-11972950


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Interesting read and he has a point,I like Ricky he is a great campaigner for animal rights,so a good man in my book.:wavey:

[Oliver_W]

Good for him. This is kind of shining a light on how pathetic Celebrity(tm) really is. When we have vapid fools like Brie Larson whinging about female critics while there is real injustice - people can't afford food, some people don't have healthcare in the USA - and then Sam Smith was having a breakdown in his mansion about how hard it is for him...

I've long thought Hollywood as an "institution" should be burned down.

[Marsh.]

Good for him. This is kind of shining a light on how pathetic Celebrity(tm) really is. When we have vapid fools like Brie Larson whinging about female critics while there is real injustice - people can't afford food, some people don't have healthcare in the USA - and then Sam Smith was having a breakdown in his mansion about how hard it is for him...

I've long thought Hollywood as an "institution" should be burned down.

Has Brie Larson been doing this during lockdown or are you comparing two completely different things at completely different times?

Using the world-wide pandemic to further your "there is no racial or gender bias" is actually repulsive.

[user104658]

Has Brie Larson been doing this during lockdown or are you comparing two completely different things at completely different times?

Using the world-wide pandemic to further your "there is no racial or gender bias" is actually repulsive.Have to agree, you can't compare celebrities complaining about smaller things DURING the pandemic to things that have gone on in the past... One thing being a huge issue doesn't make smaller problems irrelevant. Obviously some things are less important now than they were 4 months ago... Brexit is a prime example... But that doesn't mean it wasn't important - or that it'll never be an important discussion again.

Its sort of like the logic that "poor people in rich countries have nothing to complain about because they have smartphones while poor people in Africa are starving". Or the current (worrying) "the government is suddenly beyond question because A VIRUS!" narrative.

Inequality doesn't stop being a problem just because there are also other problems.

[Oliver_W]

Okay I admit Brie Larson being a Karen is pretty trivial at the moment :joker:

[Marsh.]

Inadvertently being one of the complainers you were trying to complain about. Oop.

[Nicky91]

:umm2: what's the point from Ricky Gervais, i don't understand this, comes more across to me as this vile gervais as trolling for attention

[Oliver_W]

:umm2: what's the point from Ricky Gervais, i don't understand this, comes more across to me as this vile gervais as trolling for attention

He always trolls lol, it's practically part of his brand. But his targets are usually fair,I love when he mercilessly mocks celebrities and/or Hollywood in things he's hosting. He's also big into animal rights, which along with environmentalism, is one of my biggest issue convictions.

[Marsh.]

:umm2: what's the point from Ricky Gervais, i don't understand this, comes more across to me as this vile gervais as trolling for attention

I don't see what's trolling. His point is clear, he finds the complaining from celebs (such as Sam Smith sobbing in his online videos) whose only problems are boredom during lockdown. It's completely inappropriate.

[Nicky91]

I don't see what's trolling. His point is clear, he finds the complaining from celebs (such as Sam Smith sobbing in his online videos) whose only problems are boredom during lockdown. It's completely inappropriate.

he calls that moaning but actually he's also moaning there about other people's moaning :laugh3:

[Marsh.]

he calls that moaning but actually he's also moaning there about other people's moaning :laugh3:

His moaning has substance. Sobbing in online videos about how bored you are in your mansion whilst people are dying and others are putting themselves at risk to help those fallen ill is on another level.

But ignore that... because you don't like Gervais. Odd stance to take.

[Nicky91]

His moaning has substance. Sobbing in online videos about how bored you are in your mansion whilst people are dying and others are putting themselves at risk to help those fallen ill is on another level.

But ignore that... because you don't like Gervais. Odd stance to take.

i find Gervais bit too controversial for my liking in his jokes, that's all

however about this all, those ''stars'' who i see staying at home most who i like don't complain

cannot speak for every single celebrity but i do see some keeping themselves busy with home workouts, some who share nice uplifting messages via social media

but good that he is aware of NHS staff risking their lives anyway, maybe he can donate some money too to the NHS for all the dangers their personnel goes through in this crisis

[Marsh.]

i find Gervais bit too controversial for my liking in his jokes, that's all

however about this all, those ''stars'' who i see staying at home most who i like don't complain

cannot speak for every single celebrity but i do see some keeping themselves busy with home workouts, some who share nice uplifting messages via social media

but good that he is aware of NHS staff risking their lives anyway, maybe he can donate some money too to the NHS for all the dangers their personnel goes through in this crisis

Yes, it's always someone else who could do with donating that money. ;)

[user104658]

Okay I admit being a Karen about Brie Larson is pretty trivial at the moment :joker:

Fixed :hehe:

[Oliver_W]

Fixed :hehe:

haha, I'll take that :joker: but both are still true!

[Marsh.]

haha, I'll take that :joker: but both are still true!

Not really, you're the one raising female gender inequality during the pandemic, not Brie Larson.

[user104658]

The Brie Larson thing is 90% internet/redpill nonsense.

Yes, she used the launch of Captain Marvel to briefly mention women's rights on a few occasions. Was it the wrong platform for it? Probably, people don't really want a dose of politics in the promo interviews for their action blockbuster, she should have stuck with the film in interviews about the film.

Thing is, she did it maybe two or three times in the entire press tour for Captain Marvel... and a bunch of screeching incels latched onto it like she had erupted from hell to spew forth endless misandry. It didn't happen. The rumours that her cast mates hated her? Didn't happen. Cherry picked comments and glances from interviews where if you watch the whole interview it's pretty obvious that it's banter. Someone actually took time out of their day to do a YouTube breakdown of an interview with her and Hemsworth to "prove" that he can't stand her. For one I have no idea what mindset it takes to spend time on something like that. And more importantly - if you have any concept of basic human interaction it's pretty obvious that they are PLAYING. :idc:

So yeah... IMO the Internet backlash against Brie Larson for pretty much nothing just goes to show that there IS a heap of misogyny that flies around, especially when it comes to blockbusters. Certain corners of the Internet decided that Brie Larson's butt was too flat, and her mouth was too big, and that wasn't OK with them. Sad.


...... But anyway, sorry for talking equality in a pandemic etc.

[Marsh.]

:joker:

The only thing she did that put me off her was when she posted that video of her pushing a car, in neutral, down a hill as an example of the strength she'd built up for the role.

But I can't even remember if she posted that sincerely or as a joke. :laugh:

[user104658]

:joker:

The only thing she did that put me off her was when she posted that video of her pushing a car, in neutral, down a hill as an example of the strength she'd built up for the role.

But I can't even remember if she posted that sincerely or as a joke. [emoji23]I think she has a very dry/deadpan sense of humour and that's not as common in Americans so a lot of 'em genuinely don't know what to take seriously. That was my other take-away from the interview with Hemsworth. They bounce insults and comebacks in a really dry way that most of the "comments" were taking as a real argument, but in truth it's just Hemsworth being an Aussie, and Australians DO have a dry humour. Prolly cos it's so hot there. HEHEHEHEHE.

[Oliver_W]

I thought she was funny in that Chris Hemsworth thing, she was obviously being dry/sarcastic. People trying to read more into that need to get a life. I don't watch youtubers -I'm a bit funny with voices and "talking to camera" type things piss me off- but yeah that entire "backlash" came from those basement dwellers.

It was just eye-rolley when she was bleating on about how there are more male than female critics when she could be talking about women being forced into prostitution or FGM in some parts of the world. If she wants to talk about women's rights, she could focus on actual issues.

[Marsh.]

It was just eye-rolley when she was bleating on about how there are more male than female critics when she could be talking about women being forced into prostitution or FGM in some parts of the world. If she wants to talk about women's rights, she could focus on actual issues.

That's just whataboutery. You're deflecting from one issue to another.

As TS said earlier, just because another issue exists or a "worse" issue, doesn't erase the original issue. You not giving a sh*t about it doesn't change it.

[Oliver_W]

That's just whataboutery. You're deflecting from one issue to another.

As TS said earlier, just because another issue exists or a "worse" issue, doesn't erase the original issue. You not giving a sh*t about it doesn't change it.

The comparison was that we have people whinging in their mansions about how bored they are while practically all of their fans will probably never set foot in a house like that, while before we had people making ego-stroking speeches about minor issues instead of using their platform for more.

I dunno, there's something there :joker:

[Marsh.]

The comparison was that we have people whinging in their mansions about how bored they are while practically all of their fans will probably never set foot in a house like that, while before we had people making ego-stroking speeches about minor issues instead of using their platform for more.

I dunno, there's something there :joker:

That's not a comparison.

You're basically saying "ERMAGUD why are you making valid points about the industry in which you work when there are people all around the world going through something much worse and completely unrelated to what you're talking about".

It's not a comparison, it's a silly attempt at shutting them down using zero actual arguments against their points.

[Niamh.]

I thought she was funny in that Chris Hemsworth thing, she was obviously being dry/sarcastic. People trying to read more into that need to get a life. I don't watch youtubers -I'm a bit funny with voices and "talking to camera" type things piss me off- but yeah that entire "backlash" came from those basement dwellers.

It was just eye-rolley when she was bleating on about how there are more male than female critics when she could be talking about women being forced into prostitution or FGM in some parts of the world. If she wants to talk about women's rights, she could focus on actual issues.Or she may want to talk about what she knows? What's going on around her? Why is she not allowed to do that?

[Oliver_W]

Or she may want to talk about what she knows? What's going on around her? Why is she not allowed to do that?

She can say what she likes :) Just like I can say she's wasting her platform by not tackling stuff that matters.

[Niamh.]

She can say what she likes :) Just like I can say she's wasting her platform by not tackling stuff that matters.Also I had to google what "a Karen" was, middle aged privileged white woman, Brie Larson is 30 years old, short shelf life us women have. . .

[rusticgal]

I love Ricky Gervais....his humour is often near the mark but he is right about so many things...and he was right to make the comments about this pitiful twat.

[Marsh.]

She can say what she likes :) Just like I can say she's wasting her platform by not tackling stuff that matters.

What are you doing for FGM?

[Marsh.]

Also I had to google what "a Karen" was, middle aged privileged white woman, Brie Larson is 30 years old, short shelf life us women have. . .

Odd how he can blather about Brie being a "privileged white woman" but god forbid Brie speak out about the "privileged white men". Almost like someone's feeling very insecure about themselves. :idc:

[Niamh.]

What are you doing for FGM?Exactly, I'll guess the answer would be something like - well I'm not talking about women's rights at all and I'm not a woman. Oddly though, a lot of times when women talk about women's rights, a common question asked is - but what about mens rights?

[Oliver_W]

If I was a celebrity I'd love to tackle such issues, but what can a common-or-garden faggo like me do about these things?

[Niamh.]

If I was a celebrity I'd love to tackle such issues, but what can a common-or-garden faggo like me do about these things?Cop out answer. If you're so concerned about FGM, why don't you join a voluntary group that campaigns to stop it or something like that, surely would be more productive than just complaining about how Beie Larson should be talking about it?

[Oliver_W]

Cop out answer. If you're so concerned about FGM, why don't you join a voluntary group that campaigns to stop it or something like that, surely would be more productive than just complaining about how Beie Larson should be talking about it?

If there was something like that local to me I sure would, but as well as working I also do stuff with the RSPB and Wildlife Trust, I'm no Superman :joker:

[Niamh.]

If there was something like that local to me I sure would, but as well as working I also do stuff with the RSPB and Wildlife Trust, I'm no Superman :joker:I'm just saying, it's really not anyone else's place to say what a person should or should not be talking about and other issues existing certainly shouldn't be used as a counter argument to her points. It's such a non argument and really is only a tool to try and shut her down. I mean there are plenty of celebrities who don't talk about any issues at all but nobody tells them, - Hey why aren't using your platform to talk about important issues? Because the truth is people don't care if celebrities are using their platforms or not

[Oliver_W]

I'm just saying, it's really not anyone else's place to say what a person should or should not be talking about and other issues existing certainly shouldn't be used as a counter argument to her points. It's such a non argument and really is only a tool to try and shut her down. I mean there are plenty of celebrities who don't talk about any issues at all but nobody tells them, - Hey why aren't using your platform to talk about important issues? Because the truth is people don't care if celebrities are using their platforms or not
I guess a comeback toward me could be "why are you looking after your local countryside when you could defend the Amazon" :laugh:

[Tom4784]

You don't need to be in a local group to take a stand, the internet is a thing, you could be a part of a movement if you actually cared about it.

The hatred towards Brie Larson is peak incel culture. Captain Marvel is a female focused film and one that attempted to say something about feminism and gender but it didn't really work since it felt like a man wrote it and it lacked sincerity in what it was trying to say because of it.

If Brie Larrson didn't speak about women's rights when promoting the film, it would be strange.

[Oliver_W]

I think Captain Marvel is a fine film, and I like her in most interviews, it's not her fault Americans don't get dry humour. Captain Marvel is just another cookie-cutter MCU film,it's pathetic that it spawned so many videos.

I wish I'd chosen another bloody example now of privileged celebs complaining :joker:

[user104658]

The hatred towards Brie Larson is peak incel culture. Captain Marvel is a female focused film and one that attempted to say something about feminism and gender but it didn't really work since it felt like a man wrote it and it lacked sincerity in what it was trying to say because of it.

I agree but what baffles me is that there seems to be a perception that WW "did it better" when WW is about as feminist as tea on the table and a nice bath ready when Daddy gets home from the office.

Of course, Gal Gadot was quiet & demure in interviews and let Chris Pine (the actual protagonist of WW, by the way) do 90% of the talking like a good whamen, and thus pleased the zeitgeist.

[Oliver_W]

I agree but what baffles me is that there seems to be a perception that WW "did it better" when WW is about as feminist as tea on the table and a nice bath ready when Daddy gets home from the office.

Of course, Gal Gadot was quiet & demure in interviews and let Chris Pine (the actual protagonist of WW, by the way) do 90% of the talking like a good whamen, and thus pleased the zeitgeist.

It's also probably because Gal Gadot is beautiful. Like it or not, looks play a big part in how people react.

Moreso with women, unfortunately.

[Tom4784]

I agree but what baffles me is that there seems to be a perception that WW "did it better" when WW is about as feminist as tea on the table and a nice bath ready when Daddy gets home from the office.

Of course, Gal Gadot was quiet & demure in interviews and let Chris Pine (the actual protagonist of WW, by the way) do 90% of the talking like a good whamen, and thus pleased the zeitgeist.

I actually do think WW did it better. The whole point of that film is that success comes from co-operation. Steve Trevor couldn't have done what he did if Diana wasn't there to fight Aries and Diana couldn't have prevented disaster if Steve didn't play his part. Both characters had their flaws and weaknesses and it was through co-operation that they saved the day.

I always took that film to be one that's empowering to women without demeaning anyone basically. Diana gets judged for being a woman, she succeeds in what she does and she extends a hand to those she proved wrong enabling those who judged her for her gender to learn from their mistakes. It's empowering without having to dunk on anyone else. (Still cringe when I think about that cockpit line from Captain Marvel).

Obviously I'm a man so my insight is limited on this issue but I always thought that WW did it well in a way that would probably win over people that would have been put off by Captain Marvel's more brash and hackneyed message. You'll never convince incels but I reckon WW would have succeeded in winning over more people in the middle.

[Oliver_W]

I love WW, that and Shazam are the only DC movies I legit like.

[Niamh.]

I guess a comeback toward me could be "why are you looking after your local countryside when you could defend the Amazon" [emoji23]Haha, well yeah exactly [emoji23]

[Crimson Dynamo]

rickys daily corna videos have been a real tonic

[Niamh.]

all that said, on topic, I think Ricky Gervais is great :p

[Marsh.]

If there was something like that local to me I sure would, but as well as working I also do stuff with the RSPB and Wildlife Trust, I'm no Superman :joker:

But yet you feel Brie Larson, a woman you don't know, should be doing something? How odd.

[rusticgal]

rickys daily corna videos have been a real tonic


My husband loves them....he’s a double of Ricky in build looks and humour...

[Crimson Dynamo]

My husband loves them....he’s a double of Ricky in build looks and humour...

:omgno:

[rusticgal]

:omgno:


...well he is slightly trimmer and slightly better looking :)....