Trump halts WHO funding over handling of Corona

[Smithy]

President Donald Trump announced Tuesday he is halting funding to the World Health Organization while a review is conducted.

Trump said the review would cover the WHO's "role in severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of coronavirus."

Trump's announcement comes in the middle of the worst global pandemic in decades and as he angrily defends his own handling of the outbreak in the United States.

Amid swirling questions about whether he downplayed the crisis or ignored warnings from members of his administration about its potential severity, Trump has sought to assign blame elsewhere, including at the WHO and in the news media.

The US funds $400 million to $500 million to the WHO each year, Trump said, noting that China "contributes roughly $40 million."

"Had the WHO done its job to get medical experts into China to objectively assess the situation on the ground and to call out China's lack of transparency, the outbreak could have been contained at its source with very little death," Trump said.

His decision to withdraw funding from the WHO follows a pattern of skepticism of world organizations that began well before the coronavirus pandemic. Trump has questioned US funding to the United Nations, withdrawn from global climate agreements and lambasted the World Trade Organization -- claiming all were ripping off the United States.

Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut, who serves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said earlier Tuesday that while the WHO and China "made mistakes," Trump is also looking to deflect blame from his own administration.
"Right now, there is a very coordinated effort amongst the White House and their allies to try to find scapegoats for the fatal mistakes that the President made during the early stages of this virus," he said.

Murphy added: "It is just wildly ironic that the President and his allies are now criticizing China or the WHO for being soft on China when it was in fact the President who was the chief apologist for China during the early stages of this crisis."

Trump said Tuesday if the WHO had acted appropriately, he could have instituted a travel ban on people coming from China sooner.

He said the WHO made a "dangerous and costly" decision to oppose travel restrictions from China.

But just days before Trump instituted his ban on travelers from China, he also was praising the country.

On January 24, Trump tweeted: "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"

Later Tuesday, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo echoed Trump's criticism of the WHO, but did not specifically react to the announcement that the US would withhold funds from the global body.

"We need answers to these questions, we need transparency and we need the World Health Organization to do its job, to perform its primary function, which is to make sure that the world has accurate, timely, effective, real information about what's going on in the global health space, and they didn't get that done here," Pompeo said in an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity.

Pompeo had reiterated the administration's dissatisfaction with the international organization amid the coronavirus pandemic in a series of interviews prior to the President's announcement.

"The World Health Organization in its history has done some good work. Unfortunately, here it didn't hit the top of its game, and we need to make sure that we push through efforts to fundamentally change that or make a different decision that says we're going to do our part to make sure that these important world health obligations, things that frankly keep Americans safe too, actually function," Pompeo said in an interview with "Good Morning Orlando."

And just weeks earlier, Pompeo and the State Department had highlighted the US contribution to the global pandemic response, including its role as "the largest supporter of the World Health Organization since its creation in 1948."

Tuesday's announcement about the halting of funding came days after a major US ally -- the United Kingdom -- announced an additional £65 million contribution to the WHO.

The move to freeze the funding is the latest in a series of administration actions against international multilateral organizations. Prior to the pandemic, the administration's fiscal year 2021 proposal laid out a $65 million cut to the World Health Organization -- a more than 50% decrease over FY20.

Jesus Christ :facepalm:

He will literally go down in history as the worst president ever

[Nicky91]

really terrible decision, yes why go fund the world's health organization

maybe pressure is just getting to poor Donnie, a bit too much :(

[smudgie]

He has to blame someone.
Hopefully people will open their eyes and vote against him in the next election.

[Nicky91]

also hypocrisy of Trump talking about mismanagement in WHO, talking about dangers of them ''being opposed'' to travel restrictions from china

Donnie had been kinda opposed to any of what his virologists said too (going as far as wanting to fire doctor anthony fauci) also very much ignoring new york


and as if Donnie will lose that election against creepy rapist Biden :fan:

[arista]

Yes 26,059 Deaths in USA
this hour.


W.H.O. failed to warn America
at the the start.


Trump's Republicans
back him, mostly
on this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The WHO is China-centric and Donald has every right to call out its bias. China needs to take responsibility for where this pandemic started and how.

[arista]

Yes Wet Markets
are back in China
The Government allow them , again.

[arista]

The WHO is China-centric and Donald has every right to call out its bias. China needs to take responsibility for where this pandemic started and how.


Worse China is Now assisting
Italy supplying alot
getting help but also
buying up many business.

They started this mess
and now are getting into Nations
they never had connections with.......................

[arista]

"while a review is conducted."


Infact Smithy your Title is wrong
edit it to

"Trump wants to..........................."

[Oliver_W]

Has the WHO actually been handling it well?

[Smithy]

Has the WHO actually been handling it well?

They provided all the relevant information to governing bodies back in December, if those bodies chose to ignore the warning, or act late on it, that is their fault not the WHO

[bots]

being realistic the WHO have done more harm than good in this pandemic, the point where it should have stood up and earned the donations it's been getting. That said, Trump is doing it to deflect the pressure from his own incompetence, so a case of right thing, wrong reasons

[Cherie]

Worse China is Now assisting
Italy supplying alot
getting help but also
buying up many business.

They started this mess
and now are getting into Nations
they never had connections with.......................

:umm2:

[arista]

They provided all the relevant information to governing bodies back in December, if those bodies chose to ignore the warning, or act late on it, that is their fault not the WHO


Yes some nations
like Sweden

[bots]

italy's financial mess is of its own making

[arista]

Italy's financial mess is of its own making


Yes before the Virus hit them
they were fighting the EU with Germany
who were only go to Loan them

[Kizzy]

being realistic the WHO have done more harm than good in this pandemic, the point where it should have stood up and earned the donations it's been getting. That said, Trump is doing it to deflect the pressure from his own incompetence, so a case of right thing, wrong reasons

How have they done more harm than good? The information and advice was there... some nations took it and some stalled.

[user104658]

I don't think RIGHT NOW is the time to be suddenly halting funding, obviously, but some close scrutiny is needed at some point. I know propaganda when I see it and the WHO was quite blatantly at times spouting CCP propaganda in Jan/Feb. I have no idea why and I'm not into the conspiracy theories, but there has been something very odd going on with the WHO and China.

I remember reading some of their statements back at the beginning of this, before we even knew it was going to be a pandemic, and before I'd seen anyone else questioning the WHO, and just thinking "What the **** am I reading right now? Why does it sound like government PR?"

[Tom4784]

He's a narcissist that very recently tried to make out that he has total authority as president, he basically is trying to consolidate his power and become an unofficial king.

Even a veteran host of Fox News called out this bull**** and said that the Right Wing would have lost their mind if Obama pulled this **** but they are cheering Trump for doing the same.

He needs to be stopped but he won't because stupidity has enabled him time and time again and there's no end to it. He will probably get re-elected and will probably go on to start a Dynasty that will **** the entire world over and his supporters will gladly bend over and lube up for it.

[user104658]

He's a narcissist that very recently tried to make out that he has total authority as president, he basically is trying to consolidate his power and become an unofficial king.

Even a veteran host of Fox News called out this bull**** and said that the Right Wing would have lost their mind if Obama pulled this **** but they are cheering Trump for doing the same.

He needs to be stopped but he won't because stupidity has enabled him time and time again and there's no end to it. He will probably get re-elected and will probably go on to start a Dynasty that will **** the entire world over and his supporters will gladly bend over and lube up for it.

I dunno, he might get Covid and die :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

How have they done more harm than good? The information and advice was there... some nations took it and some stalled.

Its like you are suggesting that every country is the same size, same population make-up, same economic set-up, got the virus at the same time, in the same way and was equally affected?

[Kizzy]

Its like you are suggesting that every country is the same size, same population make-up, same economic set-up, got the virus at the same time, in the same way and was equally affected?

Well there you are, there's always an excuse for not listening to the advise... Our nation is too big/ small/ powerful/ rich/ isolated to be impacted. Only they aren't.

[Cherie]

I don't think RIGHT NOW is the time to be suddenly halting funding, obviously, but some close scrutiny is needed at some point. I know propaganda when I see it and the WHO was quite blatantly at times spouting CCP propaganda in Jan/Feb. I have no idea why and I'm not into the conspiracy theories, but there has been something very odd going on with the WHO and China.

I remember reading some of their statements back at the beginning of this, before we even knew it was going to be a pandemic, and before I'd seen anyone else questioning the WHO, and just thinking "What the **** am I reading right now? Why does it sound like government PR?"

Agree with this, something is not right, and it looks like China has been completely absolved of any responsibility and wet markets allowed to reopen, crazy

[Tom4784]

I dunno, he might get Covid and die :shrug:

I don't feel that optimistic atm tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well there you are, there's always an excuse for not listening to the advise... Our nation is too big/ small/ powerful/ rich/ isolated to be impacted. Only they aren't.

i dont think you understand what i am saying

(advice)

[Kizzy]

I dunno, he might get Covid and die :shrug:

We don't ill will people TS... :nono:

[Tom4784]

Well there you are, there's always an excuse for not listening to the advise... Our nation is too big/ small/ powerful/ rich/ isolated to be impacted. Only they aren't.

'We didn't listen to advice because of *list of excuses* and it's all the WHO's FAULT!'

[user104658]

We will have no idea who/where made the right call until the threat of the virus is over (it isn't yet, anywhere) and what the resulting economic fallout looks like (spoiler: it is probably going to be absolutely ****ing catastrophic).

I have no idea how anyone is managing to make firm judgement calls on "which places got it right" at the moment. It's a bold choice when we're 3 months into a problem that's going to define an entire decade.

[user104658]

We don't ill will people TS... :nono:

I didn't wish it on him, I just said it might happen :hee:

[Tom4784]

We don't ill will people TS... :nono:

The **** has a record number of children dying in his internment camps, his mismanagement of Corona has killed thousands and will kill far more before all is said and done and he brought us close to a WW3 situation just to help his election chances. Never mind the blatant corruption and everything else he's done.

When that man dies, I will crack open the champagne and wish him all the best in Hell.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We will have no idea who/where made the right call until the threat of the virus is over (it isn't yet, anywhere) and what the resulting economic fallout looks like (spoiler: it is probably going to be absolutely ****ing catastrophic).

I have no idea how anyone is managing to make firm judgement calls on "which places got it right" at the moment. It's a bold choice when we're 3 months into a problem that's going to define an entire decade.

they are not TS

they are venting their political prejudice disguised (badly) as apolitical comment on how the virus has been handled

and many cant see the irony when criticising DT for doing just that

:skull:

[DouglasS]

I mean China did hide information about the coronavirus for weeks and allegedly kept all their scientists silent who mentioned it. Had China acted properly thousands of lives across the world would be fine, it must be frustrating when USA are donating 5x more than China

[Nicky91]

they are not TS

they are venting their political prejudice disguised (badly) as apolitical comment on how the virus has been handled

and many cant see the irony when criticising DT for doing just that

:skull:

i don't look into this crisis from a politically perspective though

no one does :umm2:

honestly if Donnie wants to criticize people he also needs to do that to himself, the things he did wrong (but that ain't never gonna happen)

[Kizzy]

We will have no idea who/where made the right call until the threat of the virus is over (it isn't yet, anywhere) and what the resulting economic fallout looks like (spoiler: it is probably going to be absolutely ****ing catastrophic).

I have no idea how anyone is managing to make firm judgement calls on "which places got it right" at the moment. It's a bold choice when we're 3 months into a problem that's going to define an entire decade.

Nobody is making a firm judgement... the advice was there, no it wasn't specific to every country in the world but it was up to individual countries to take the advice and scale it to fit them...not totally disregard it and make your own decisions then start laying blame.

Trump is blaming the WHO and the media, our govt are blaming our scientists all to cover the fact they've failed in their response.

[Kizzy]

The **** has a record number of children dying in his internment camps, his mismanagement of Corona has killed thousands and will kill far more before all is said and done and he brought us close to a WW3 situation just to help his election chances. Never mind the blatant corruption and everything else he's done.

When that man dies, I will crack open the champagne and wish him all the best in Hell.

You're a bad witch babs ;) .... but you have a point.

[Tom4784]

I mean China did hide information about the coronavirus for weeks and allegedly kept all their scientists silent who mentioned it. Had China acted properly thousands of lives across the world would be fine, it must be frustrating when USA are donating 5x more than China

Blaming China at this point does nothing though, assign blame when it's all over, defunding the WHO organisation is just dangerous in the middle of a pandemic and it's a purely political move on Trump's part.

Every highly affected country lacked the foresight to make the necessary decisions to prevent the pandemic, most of them don't even have adequate measures in place to begin with. Bill Gates and others highlighted this issue back when Ebola was at risk of ravaging the world but the governments didn't listen.

Assign blame for the origin of the virus when it's just a memory, drag China over the coals at that point, but for now we should just focus on we're doing to fight it.

[Cherie]

Blaming China at this point does nothing though, assign blame when it's all over, defunding the WHO organisation is just dangerous in the middle of a pandemic and it's a purely political move on Trump's part.

Every highly affected country lacked the foresight to make the necessary decisions to prevent the pandemic, most of them don't even have adequate measures in place to begin with. Bill Gates and others highlighted this issue back when Ebola was at risk of ravaging the world but the governments didn't listen.

Assign blame for the origin of the virus when it's just a memory, drag China over the coals at that point, but for now we should just focus on we're doing to fight it.


I don't think the world can afford to wait given the wet markets have reopened, what if another strain of this virus emerges on the back of this one?

[Kizzy]

I mean China did hide information about the coronavirus for weeks and allegedly kept all their scientists silent who mentioned it. Had China acted properly thousands of lives across the world would be fine, it must be frustrating when USA are donating 5x more than China

They aren't donating 5x.

It's no secret that China have to be handled with kid gloves, if the WHO hadn't handled this diplomatically then the would have been kicked out of China and the first we'd have known of Covid 19 would be when people were dropping dead in the street.

They went in, they assessed the development of the virus and given the information they recieved their advice was as it is now... little has changed.

[Tom4784]

I don't think the world can afford to wait given the wet markets have reopened, what if another strain of this virus emerges on the back of this one?

That's not assigning blame though, that's demanding China do something. That's different to defunding a health organisation in the middle of a pandemic. The former is a preventative measure, the latter is a political move.

[Cherie]

That's not assigning blame though, that's demanding China do something. That's different to defunding a health organisation in the middle of a pandemic. The former is a preventative measure, the latter is a political move.

I'm not talking about the WHO, I think the world needs to look at what China is doing right now rather than ignoring

[Nicky91]

They aren't donating 5x.

It's no secret that China have to be handled with kid gloves, if the WHO hadn't handled this diplomatically then the would have been kicked out of China and the first we'd have known of Covid 19 would be when people were dropping dead in the street.

They went in, they assessed the development of the virus and given the information they recieved their advice was as it is now... little has changed.

true, WHO have been monitoring this virus since it got out of control in China


chinese government themselves could've prevented a lot tbh, they had silenced that scientist ''bat woman'' she already knew about coronavirusses in multiple bat caves, so if government had acted as they should've this pandemic might've been prevented :think:

but past is in the past, we are now where we are, and we cannot turn back time unfortunately

[arista]

I'm not talking about the WHO, I think the world needs to look at what China is doing right now rather than ignoring


Yes Not Stopping Wet Markets
Letting them go on in a alley
Color new Photo on Bill Maher

[Tom4784]

I'm not talking about the WHO, I think the world needs to look at what China is doing right now rather than ignoring

How is that different to what I'm saying?

Sitting around and blaming China is pointless at this point but preventative action is always a good thing.

[Livia]

being realistic the WHO have done more harm than good in this pandemic, the point where it should have stood up and earned the donations it's been getting. That said, Trump is doing it to deflect the pressure from his own incompetence, so a case of right thing, wrong reasons

Agree with this.

[Cherie]

How is that different to what I'm saying?

Sitting around and blaming China is pointless at this point but preventative action is always a good thing.

you said

drag China over the coals at that point, but for now we should just focus on we're doing to fight it.

which I basically took to mean ignore China for now :shrug:

[Tom4784]

you said

drag China over the coals at that point, but for now we should just focus on we're doing to fight it.

which I basically took to mean ignore China for now :shrug:

I mean there's no point in doing what Trump is doing, blaming China for the crisis while doing little to combat the problem in his own backyard.

Wet Markets are a valid concern, blaming China in place of a solid plan of attack is not.

[arista]

"while a review is conducted."


Infact Smithy your Title is wrong
edit it to

"Trump wants to..........................."


Smithy a review takes days
your title , Typical Of You
needs changing
to be fair

[arista]

Dezzy it gets him more Votes
the November Election
matters to him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/15/14/27223928-8221607-image-a-35_1586956938192.jpg

On January 14, more than a month after the first infections at this seafood
market are thought to have taken place, the WHO tweeted saying China had
found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission




:skull:

[Beso]

Does this mean who won't be wasting resources to organise this stupid and pointless concert now?

[arista]

Does this mean who won't be wasting resources to organise this stupid and pointless concert now?

No the Concert for Covid
is going ahead.

Loads of Singers/Musicians
rushing to be part of it

[Beso]

No the Concert for Covid
is going ahead.

Loads of Singers/Musicians
rushing to be part of it

What a waste of valuable resources.

[arista]

What a waste of valuable resources.


Yes but the Singers /Musicians
need the gig.
Any not on it
could be washed away.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVtcASdXYAAa3Uw?format=jpg&name=small

[Trouble1321075]

i don't look into this crisis from a politically perspective though



no one does :umm2:



honestly if Donnie wants to criticize people he also needs to do that to himself, the things he did wrong (but that ain't never gonna happen)Does that rule apply to everyone or just Trump? I have not heard anyone on the left or from the WHO or any other group admit any fault lies upon themselves.

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[Trouble1321075]

Nobody is making a firm judgement... the advice was there, no it wasn't specific to every country in the world but it was up to individual countries to take the advice and scale it to fit them...not totally disregard it and make your own decisions then start laying blame.



Trump is blaming the WHO and the media, our govt are blaming our scientists all to cover the fact they've failed in their response.The advice was where exactly???
The WHO was critical of Trump when he initiated his travel bans and was arguing that this was not something large enough to concern the US. They were arguing that people should not majorly change our normal behaviors well into February.

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[Trouble1321075]

Blaming China at this point does nothing though, assign blame when it's all over, defunding the WHO organisation is just dangerous in the middle of a pandemic and it's a purely political move on Trump's part.



Every highly affected country lacked the foresight to make the necessary decisions to prevent the pandemic, most of them don't even have adequate measures in place to begin with. Bill Gates and others highlighted this issue back when Ebola was at risk of ravaging the world but the governments didn't listen.



Assign blame for the origin of the virus when it's just a memory, drag China over the coals at that point, but for now we should just focus on we're doing to fight it.Why is defunding the WHO dangerous? They were and continue to be largely ineffective in protecting us from the virus. From my laymen perspective it would seem some meaningful reforms are in order. What is the justification to pump money into them, Until those reforms are in motion?

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[Smithy]

Does this mean who won't be wasting resources to organise this stupid and pointless concert now?

What a waste of valuable resources.

You realise it’s a charity concert and the who aren’t spending any resources organising it?

Bless :pat:

[Livia]

It makes me slightly dizzy to have to agree with anything Trump says, but he's not wholly wrong on this one.

[Nicky91]

It makes me slightly dizzy to have to agree with anything Trump says, but he's not wholly wrong on this one.

Trump only cares about american economy, not human lives

how he handles this whole corona pandemic is wrong

people are still dying and all he thinks about is getting economy back up and running to normal :bored:

[Livia]

Trump only cares about american economy, not human lives

how he handles this whole corona pandemic is wrong

people are still dying and all he thinks about is getting economy back up and running to normal :bored:

That may well all be true.

But he's not wrong about the WHO. It was inevitable that he'd eventually get something right. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[Nicky91]

That may well all be true.

But he's not wrong about the WHO. It was inevitable that he'd eventually get something right. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

uh, WHO had been following this virus since it was confirmed as outbreak by chinese government (far too late by that corrupt government) but nothing can be put blame on WHO, more blame chinese government for their mistakes but Trump wouldn't do that, because of the whole China-US trade deal could be at risk then and that is bad for US economy


what's to blame for this pandemic? umm idk but bringing your people back from risk zones, sad that i was correct there that being a bad choice but yeah it is the whole ''youdon'tleaveanyonebehind'' mindset **** :umm2: if no one was brought back, there wouldn't have been a pandemic right now

[Livia]

uh, WHO had been following this virus since it was confirmed as outbreak by chinese government (far too late by that corrupt government) but nothing can be put blame on WHO, more blame chinese government for their mistakes but Trump wouldn't do that, because of the whole China-US trade deal could be at risk then and that is bad for US economy


what's to blame for this pandemic? umm idk but bringing your people back from risk zones, sad that i was correct there that being a bad choice but yeah it is the whole ''youdon'tleaveanyonebehind'' mindset **** :umm2: if no one was brought back, there wouldn't have been a pandemic right now


Not sure I agree with that Nicky. It only needed one person infected in Wuhan to fly out from an international airport and then into an international airport. Everything they touched, everyone they breathed on... the fact that the air on a plane is recycled and recycled...

[user104658]

Now isn't the time to try to attack the WHO because there's no viable replacement. But I think the way it's been handled by the WHO is... Less than ideal... And when this is over it needs looked at in close detail, in close cooperation with all major world governments.

This will not be the last pandemic we see and there needs to be a much more robust and coordinated international response next time. Whether that's a rethink of the current WHO or a whole new organisation. It also needs much MORE funding from every nation... It should be a large and mandatory part of every budget.

[Livia]

Now isn't the time to try to attack the WHO because there's no viable replacement. But I think the way it's been handled by the WHO is... Less than ideal... And when this is over it needs looked at in close detail, in close cooperation with all major world governments.

This will not be the last pandemic we see and there needs to be a much more robust and coordinated international response next time. Whether that's a rethink of the current WHO or a whole new organisation. It also needs much MORE funding from every nation... It should be a large and mandatory part of every budget.

Fair points, TS, but the WHO can't expect not to be criticised, even now, for the China-centric mishandling.

[Smithy]

Trump only cares about american economy, not human lives

how he handles this whole corona pandemic is wrong

people are still dying and all he thinks about is getting economy back up and running to normal :bored:

Trump has won then again, remaining president for another 4 years :clap1:


Donnie is doing an amazing job now under all that pressure of the coronacrisis :love:

Changed your mind pretty quickly there Nicky

[Tom4784]

Why is defunding the WHO dangerous? They were and continue to be largely ineffective in protecting us from the virus. From my laymen perspective it would seem some meaningful reforms are in order. What is the justification to pump money into them, Until those reforms are in motion?

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It's dumb to blame the WHO when every heavily affected country didn't take the warnings to heart, governments knew about this **** for ages and the WHO's advice has been the same but places like the US have disregarded that information. When the world is in the midst of a pandemic, you don't start to target organisations that can help end the crisis, especially when it's just for political gain.

Blaming the WHO just furthers Trump's agenda of shifting blame. You have countries that are getting the virus under control, like South Korea because they heeded advice and went above and beyond in their response despite being hit hard to begin with. Trump went golfing and did what he always does, blame everyone else but the man in charge, himself.

The US is being ravaged and will be ravaged further by the virus and it's the government's fault and Trump's fault for spreading misinformation and being slow. Trump tried to make out that the coronavirus was just a Democratic ruse, after all...

[Beso]

You realise it’s a charity concert and the who aren’t spending any resources organising it?

Bless :pat:



So it takes no organisation at all?

Is that what you are saying..no one from WHO has been involved organising this waste if time while we are in the middle of our worst pandemic for a century.


Away and pat yer own head and stop it wobbling.

[Tom4784]

Let's not forget that the WHO offered the US Corona tests that Trump refused.

[Nicky91]

Changed your mind pretty quickly there Nicky

sarcasm does kinda exist though :laugh:

but although i've got nothing against Trump in general, before he became president i actually liked him at Apprentice

he's just not a good stable president

[Tom4784]

The organisation for the concert is probably being handled by the stars and their people. I doubt they have scientists taking time off from research to talk Dua Lipa into performing.

[Beso]

Paul garwood has his sticky fingers all over this.

[Kizzy]

This is blame culture... I would love to hear exactly how the WHO got the title of being China - centric on this, how could they have done things any better?... they, within 2 weeks of hearing of the outbreak identified named secured the genome sequencing for identification of the new virus. They then produced copious amounts of relevant and accurate advice and information... all of which was ignored by the UK and the US.

[Kizzy]

The advice was where exactly???
The WHO was critical of Trump when he initiated his travel bans and was arguing that this was not something large enough to concern the US. They were arguing that people should not majorly change our normal behaviors well into February.

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Alex?..

The WHO has a timeline of updates, of course individual advice or requests from specific countries will have been available too.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/events-as-they-happen

[Smithy]

So it takes no organisation at all?

Is that what you are saying..no one from WHO has been involved organising this waste if time while we are in the middle of our worst pandemic for a century.


Away and pat yer own head and stop it wobbling.

Lady Gaga has been organising it with her team, the WHO are partnering with her and have raised over $100,000,000 hardly a waste of time or resources imo

[Smithy]

sarcasm does kinda exist though :laugh:

but although i've got nothing against Trump in general, before he became president i actually liked him at Apprentice

he's just not a good stable president

It does, but you clearly weren’t being sarcastic :joker:

[Trouble1321075]

It's dumb to blame the WHO when every heavily affected country didn't take the warnings to heart, governments knew about this **** for ages and the WHO's advice has been the same but places like the US have disregarded that information. When the world is in the midst of a pandemic, you don't start to target organisations that can help end the crisis, especially when it's just for political gain.



Blaming the WHO just furthers Trump's agenda of shifting blame. You have countries that are getting the virus under control, like South Korea because they heeded advice and went above and beyond in their response despite being hit hard to begin with. Trump went golfing and did what he always does, blame everyone else but the man in charge, himself.



The US is being ravaged and will be ravaged further by the virus and it's the government's fault and Trump's fault for spreading misinformation and being slow. Trump tried to make out that the coronavirus was just a Democratic ruse, after all...

Shifting blame from who?
Is the WHO above scrutiny?
Please cite the warning that the WHO gave and were ignored...
Trump did more than what the WHO recommended and it still wasn't enough. If Trump is at fault here, the WHO shares some of that responsibility.

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[Trouble1321075]

Alex?..

The WHO has a timeline of updates, of course individual advice or requests from specific countries will have been available too.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/events-as-they-happenWhat in that link am I supposed say that WHO acted effectively?

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[Glenn.]

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Anyone that openly supports this man is an idiot.

[user104658]

_56yCL5DEl4

Anyone that openly supports this man is an idiot.This is the problem with tribalistic thinking though; Trump can be an idiot and a frankly terrifying danger to humanity, and the WHO in need of improvement, at the same time. There's no logic in the thinking that "Trump is bad and Trump criticises the WHO, thus the WHO is good".

[arista]

Glenn at the last USA Election
they did not want Corrupt Hilary Clinton
who Insulted Half of the USA


Thats now a well known Fact

[Glenn.]

No instead they voted for someone that will kill half of the USA instead.

[arista]

No instead they voted for someone that will kill half of the USA instead.

No The USA Death Rate is Not in Millions.


Hilary Clinton was not trusted
the Dumb Democrats picked a loser


She was hated by so many
so they Voted for a Business man.

[Glenn.]

No The USA Death Rate is Not in Millions.


Hilary Clinton was not trusted
the Dumb Democrats picked a loser


She was hated by so many
so they Voted for a Business man.

Not yet.