Have you read about Tom Daley allegedly kissing a sixteen year old fellow diver?

[Vanessa]

Perez Hilton says that he got sent the video:eyes:
I know the age of consent here is 16. But it still feels wrong? D:

[Smithy]

It’s legal? Not too sure what the issue is

Perez Hilton is like Dan W****n complete scum!

[Vanessa]

It’s legal? Not too sure what the issue is

Perez Hilton is like Dan W****n complete scum!

Well, he's married. So unless they have an open marriage, it's cheating :think:

[MB.]

Well, he's married. So unless they have an open marriage, it's cheating :think:

From what I've heard, open is certainly one way to describe their arrangement

[Smithy]

Well, he's married. So unless they have an open marriage, it's cheating :think:

And it’s none of our business either way

[MTVN]

Didn't he cheat on his husband a couple years back as well

[Vanessa]

Didn't he cheat on his husband a couple years back as well

I heard that as well :eyes:

[Kate!]

How old is Tom?

[Vanessa]

How old is Tom?

He's 25. But he actually looks much younger, i think.

[Kate!]

He's 25. But he actually looks much younger, i think.

Bit icky then getting with a sixteen year old.

[Vanessa]

Bit icky then getting with a sixteen year old.

Apparently they were both drunk? :eyes:

[GoldHeart]

As I've said before this is why it becomes a grey area as the daft age of consent is 16 .

I personally still see 16 & 17 year olds as a bit young , I know it's not the same as a 12 year old but look how immature they can still act .

[Kate!]

As I've said before this is why it becomes a grey area as the daft age of consent is 16 .

I personally still see 16 & 17 year olds as a bit young , I know it's not the same as a 12 year old but look how immature they can still act .

Agree with this

[Vanessa]

As I've said before this is why it becomes a grey area as the daft age of consent is 16 .

I personally still see 16 & 17 year olds as a bit young , I know it's not the same as a 12 year old but look how immature they can still act .

I think it depends from the person. Some 16 year olds are more mature than others.
But yes, it's a bit young. I think age of consent should be 18.

[GoldHeart]

Apparently they were both drunk? :eyes:

Question is Vanessawere you more shocked by the age of the guy or the fact it's cheating? .

Whole thing sounds a bit messy, wasn't there a story about Demi Moore kissing a teen aswell? . Or am I thinking of something else.

[Vanessa]

Question is Vanessawere you more shocked by the age of the guy or the fact it's cheating? .

Whole thing sounds a bit messy, wasn't there a story about Demi Moore kissing a teen aswell? . Or am I thinking of something else.

A bit if both. I know Tom Daley is young,. but 16 is way too young. They wouldn't have much in common?

[GoldHeart]

I think it depends from the person. Some 16 year olds are more mature than others.
But yes, it's a bit young. I think age of consent should be 18.

I've always said 18 is fine and atleast then technically they're an adult. Weird thing is some 18 year olds still look like they're 15 or something:skull: .

I know people's maturity levels vary, but I just don't think many 16 & 17 year olds are as full developed as say a 25 year old? . There's 21 year olds still learning.

How many of us can say we were more mature at 16 honestly? :rolleyes: , no offence to some bright teens but still .

[GoldHeart]

A bit if both. I know Tom Daley is young,. but 16 is way too young. They wouldn't have much in common?

Well that's another thing I always wondered, yeah it's unlikely they'd have much in common. But people who do this clearly don't care about that as it's usually an immature lustful thing .

Doubt many would sit and have meaningful conversation.

[GoldHeart]

That's true and I agree.

I was right it was Demi Moore! , there's actually a video of it ! :skull: , the boy was 15 and she passionately kisses him. She was 19 at the time apparently.

[Vanessa]

I was right it was Demi Moore! , there's actually a video of it ! :skull: , the boy was 15 and she passionately kisses him. She was 19 at the time apparently.

They were both teens, but 15 is underage D::skull:

[Vanessa]

It was on my feed on Facebook. Surprise surprise, it was Perez Hilton who posted about the video. :suspect:

[GoldHeart]

They were both teens, but 15 is underage D::skull:

Have you seen the video? She's drunk AF but still messy
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Similar thing happened in skins with the Effy character I think the actress was only 15 when she full on kissed an actor who was well over 18 at the time. But his character was meant to be just an older kid. I'm surprised they allowed it weird.

[Vanessa]

Have you seen the video? She's drunk AF but still messy
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Similar thing happened in skins with the Effy character I think the actress was only 15 when she full on kissed an actor who was well over 18 at the time. But his character was meant to be just an older kid. I'm surprised they allowed it weird.

That's unusual. Actor are usually a bit older than the characters they play.

[GoldHeart]

That's unusual. Actor are usually a bit older than the characters they play.

Skins did things differently, all the teenagers more or less were actual teenagers except for the odd character like I mentioned.

[GoldHeart]

Do you think they do it because they're just drunk or they don't care? . That Demi Moore video is soo weird, people are saying she was on drugs :skull: .

[Vanessa]

Do you think they do it because they're just drunk or they don't care? . That Demi Moore video is soo weird, people are saying she was on drugs :skull: .

Tom was at a party, so they were probably both drunk.

[GoldHeart]

He's married. If he was single then why not? :laugh:

Yeah of course if he was single aswell, you're both adults. So not sure what point Smithy was making :conf:.

[Vanessa]

16 isn’t underage?

I mean Tom Daley is not underage.

[GoldHeart]

16 isn’t underage?

:notimpressed: Did you actually read what I said?? , I said if you mean Tom AGE 25 then that's fine. There's nothing illegal there

[Vanessa]

Someone who is 25 is an adult.
A 16 year old is not an adult, in my opinion way too young for a relationship.
I think age of consent should be 18, like it is on my country.

[GoldHeart]

Exactly. Plenty of people are in age gap relationships.
My parents were as well.

Yeah it's just not the same, 16 year olds are school kids and they're just not mature enough ! .

A 25 year old is an adult and had life experience. And usually already been to college/ uni etc and had jobs.

[Vanessa]

Yeah it's just not the same, 16 year olds are school kids and they're just not mature enough ! .

A 25 year old is an adult and had life experience. And usually already been to college/ uni etc and had jobs.

Yes, at 16 they're way too immature to be in a relationship with a 25 year old.

[Vanessa]

Age of consent is different everywhere. Here is 16, but in the States and in my country is 18.
18 is still very young, but legally an adult.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Perez Hilton says that he got sent the video:eyes:
I know the age of consent here is 16. But it still feels wrong? D:

Utterly disgusting and inno way a surprise for that creepy swimmer

[GoldHeart]

16 is the age of consent :facepalm:

I know but it doesn't make it less weird, would you date or kiss a 16 year old then ?? .

[GoldHeart]

Age of consent is different everywhere. Here is 16, but in the States and in my country is 18.
18 is still very young, but legally an adult.

Age of consent should be 18 ,never understood why 16 is age of consent here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

16 you are still growing, it's border line, well you know what

[GoldHeart]

Plus notice how there's inconsistencies anyway, I've seen stories where the adult gets called creepy for just for communicating , flirting with a 16 year old and then other stories where people say "AHH well it's age of consent " :conf: :huh: .

[Vanessa]

Plus notice how there's inconsistencies anyway, I've seen stories where the adult gets called creepy for just for communicating , flirting with a 16 year old and then other stories where people say "AHH well it's age of consent " :conf: :huh: .
Yes, the comments on Facebook are exactly like that. Some seem to think that it's ok, others are horrified.

[GoldHeart]

Yes, the comments on Facebook are exactly like that. Some seem to think that it's ok, others are horrified.

This is why the age of consent should be 18, then there's no confusion or blurry grey areas.

[GoldHeart]

By the way stupid question is there evidence Tom actually did this ?, or are we just getting Perez Hilton's word for it who is basically as toxic as Dan Wooton's greasy self.

[Oliver_W]

16 and 25 is a bit creepy and gross tbh

[Amy Jade]

A bit if both. I know Tom Daley is young,. but 16 is way too young. They wouldn't have much in common?

They dont have to for a kiss do they?

[Mitchell]

There’s been rumours for years that Tom and Dustin are in an open relationship, so I’m not convinced it’s cheating

[Vanessa]

By the way stupid question is there evidence Tom actually did this ?, or are we just getting Perez Hilton's word for it who is basically as toxic as Dan Wooton's greasy self.

That's why I said allegedly. We only have Perez word for it :unsure:

[Vanessa]

They dont have to for a kiss do they?

If it's just a one off,no. But if it's more than that I can't see it working.

[GoldHeart]

That's why I said allegedly. We only have Perez word for it :unsure:

And Perez being Perez he'll always put his spin on it :suspect: .

Either way though I stand by what I said if it happened.

[GoldHeart]

If it's just a one off,no. But if it's more than that I can't see it working.

It's usually something immature and lustful, like I said they won't be having meaningful conversation if he's only 16 .

[Vanessa]

It's usually something immature and lustful, like I said they won't be having meaningful conversation if he's only 16 .

The only thing they have in common is that they're both divers.

[Oliver_W]

The only thing they have in common is that they're both divers.
Wasn't Daley like 16 when he started dating Lance Black? That's something else!

[Vanessa]

Wasn't Daley like 16 when he started dating Lance Black? That's something else!

It think he was 17.

[Marsh.]

Vanessa is 40+ D:

[thesheriff443]

The only thing they have in common is that they're both divers.

Well they both like dick.

[GoldHeart]

Vanessa is 40+ D:

She said she fancies Tom as he is now, not when he was 16 .

[Headie]

Mildly bemused by Vanessa's sudden horror at finding a 16 year old attractive

Is this the same Vanessa who was obsessed with a 17 year old Luke Friend when he was on The X Factor?

https://uploadir.com/u/jtn69wee

[Tony Montana]

Wasn't Daley like 16 when he started dating Lance Black? That's something else!

It think he was 17.

He was 19 when they started dating.

[Tony Montana]

This thread title is serving middle aged woman sitting down in a hairdressers

:joker:

[Denver]

Imagine caring about what Tom Daley does in 2020

[Denver]

And also if Perez does have the vid he has probaly been wanking over it

[Jigs]

If you were a 16yo diver and your hero Tom Daley wanted a snog, you'd say no? I hardly think so honey!

[Moniqua]

god i wish that were me

[Wizard.]

This is the alleged victim https://www.tiktok.com/@tylerdownss?lang=en

[Glenn.]

Is this the same Vanessa who was obsessed with a 17 year old Luke Friend when he was on The X Factor?

https://uploadir.com/u/jtn69wee

Oop

[Beso]

Just popping the popcorn in the micro b4 I begin reading.

Thankyou Vanessa.

[Oliver_W]

If you were a 16yo diver and your hero Tom Daley wanted a snog, you'd say no? I hardly think so honey!

lol no-one was blaming the child.

[Beso]

And it’s none of our business either way

It's a celeb discussion forum...it is why we are here.:nono:

[Beso]

I've always said 18 is fine and atleast then technically they're an adult. Weird thing is some 18 year olds still look like they're 15 or something:skull: .

I know people's maturity levels vary, but I just don't think many 16 & 17 year olds are as full developed as say a 25 year old? . There's 21 year olds still learning.

How many of us can say we were more mature at 16 honestly? :rolleyes: , no offence to some bright teens but still .


At 16 did you judge your maturity by the size of your boobs.?

[Vanessa]

He was 19 when they started dating.

Ah ok, thanks. Didn't know that.

[Vanessa]

Is this the same Vanessa who was obsessed with a 17 year old Luke Friend when he was on The X Factor?

https://uploadir.com/u/jtn69wee

I haven't snogged Luke Friend. How is it the same?
I just think at 16 you're too young to date a 25 year old.

[Jordan.]

uh yeah 16 is definitely a child, big yuck

[Vanessa]

If you were a 16yo diver and your hero Tom Daley wanted a snog, you'd say no? I hardly think so honey!

I imagine it was a drunken snog.

[GoldHeart]

Is this the same Vanessa who was obsessed with a 17 year old Luke Friend when he was on The X Factor?

https://uploadir.com/u/jtn69wee

But did she ever say she fancied Luke?? :rolleyes: , that was a while ago so I don't remember all the posts.

[GoldHeart]

I imagine it was a drunken snog.

Demi Moore was also drunk or on something , how long ago was Tom's kiss?? . Surely it wasn't in this Covid-19 climate :skull:

[Vanessa]

Demi Moore was also drunk or on something , how long ago was Tom's kiss?? . Surely it wasn't in this Covid-19 climate :skull:

I have no idea. I sure hope not.

[Vanessa]

But did she ever say she fancied Luke?? :rolleyes: , that was a while ago so I don't remember all the posts.

What I said was meant in a jokey way. But some people took it seriously.

[GoldHeart]

What I said was meant in a jokey way. But some people took it seriously.

I don't even remember what you said as it was a while ago :joker: , I'll have to go through old posts.

But people are forgetting you can still be a fan of someone without lusting over them , didn't Laura or Lauren also get flirty comments on here and she was 17 on XF .

[Vanessa]

I don't even remember what you said as it was a while ago :joker: , I'll have to go through old posts.

But people are forgetting you can still be a fan of someone without lusting over them , didn't Laura or Lauren also get flirty comments on here and she was 17 on XF .

She did. But she's female, so apparently it's allowed in here. :rolleyes:

[montblanc]

gross

[Vanessa]

Just watched Perez video on YouTube. He showed stills of the video. You can clearly see that it's Tom.

[Marsh.]

She said she fancies Tom as he is now, not when he was 16 .

What the hell are you on about?

I merely exclaimed shock that Vanessa is over 40. :suspect:

[Vanessa]

I'm 46. I don't care what people think. I'm not ashamed of my age. We all get older. No one stays young forever.

[Barry.]

I'm 46. I don't care what people think. I'm not ashamed of my age. We all get older. No one stays young forever.

You don't look 46 Vanessa.

[montblanc]

period vanny

[Cherie]

I'm 46. I don't care what people think. I'm not ashamed of my age. We all get older. No one stays young forever.

Drag them Ness

[DouglasS]

I'm 46. I don't care what people think. I'm not ashamed of my age. We all get older. No one stays young forever.

:clap1:

I also think a 16 year old kissing a 25+ year old is creepy and not right. It may be legal but it’s morally wrong imo, and shocked some people in here think it’s perfectly fine. It’s like the same age as a secondary school kid and a teacher, or a secondary school kid and a professor...

It’s interesting how all the parents are in agreement with you Ness and mainly the young lgbt members think it’s perfectly fine

[Vanessa]

:clap1:

I also think a 16 year old kissing a 25+ year old is creepy and not right. It may be legal but it’s morally wrong imo, and shocked some people in here think it’s perfectly fine. It’s like the same age as a secondary school kid and a teacher, or a secondary school kid and a professor...

It’s interesting how all the parents are in agreement with you Ness and mainly the young lgbt members think it’s perfectly fine
It could be that they were both very drunk and it happened. But I think the older person should be more responsible. Not a good idea to drink too much.

[Marsh.]

Interesting how Jack is making it a "gays are pervs" thing.

[Amy Jade]

If the video doing the rounds is real it's a 3 second peck on the lips as part of a party game, nothing sexual at all so I'm not sure why there is so much controversy

[GoldHeart]

If the video doing the rounds is real it's a 3 second peck on the lips as part of a party game, nothing sexual at all so I'm not sure why there is so much controversy

Tbh I haven't seen the video , it's just the idea of it which most of us find weird with or without context .

[Vanessa]

Apparently it happened in China last year. Where the age of consent is 14 D:

[GoldHeart]

Apparently it happened in China last year. Where the age of consent is 14 D:

Jeeez :skull: :shocked:

[Vanessa]

If the video doing the rounds is real it's a 3 second peck on the lips as part of a party game, nothing sexual at all so I'm not sure why there is so much controversy

But why was a 15 year old drinking? Not good :shocked:

[Amy Jade]

But why was a 15 year old drinking? Not good :shocked:

Who said drinking? I said party. There is no evidence anyone was drinking.

[Cal.]

This is grim. I don’t understand how it’s legal for somebody over the age of 18 to be going with 16-17 year olds. They’re children.

[Vanessa]

Now Perez is saying that it actually happened in Japan. Where the age of consent is 13. :o

[Vanessa]

Who said drinking? I said party. There is no evidence anyone was drinking.

Thats what Perez was saying. I didn't see the video. Only some stills from it.

[user104658]

Now Perez is saying that it actually happened in Japan. Where the age of consent is 13. :oThe consent laws in Japan are a bit more complicated than that, sex under 13 carries a minimum jail term but 13 isn't the age of full consent, there is another law about adults not engaging in sexual activity with "children" and most Japanese courts define children as anyone up to the age of 16, but some even 18. The issue is quite cloudy really. But in general, no, modern Japanese culture wouldn't consider 13 to be the appropriate age of full consent.

[Jigs]

:clap1:

I also think a 16 year old kissing a 25+ year old is creepy and not right. It may be legal but it’s morally wrong imo, and shocked some people in here think it’s perfectly fine. It’s like the same age as a secondary school kid and a teacher, or a secondary school kid and a professor...

It’s interesting how all the parents are in agreement with you Ness and mainly the young lgbt members think it’s perfectly fine

It's got nothing to do with being LGBT. Sounds like you're suggesting LGBT people hold themselves to a lower standard and accept things that hetero-normative folk would not. I'm pretty sure most people in here have expressed that it is somewhat creepy but that it's also not a huge deal considering it was a consensual kiss between two people that are of the legal age of consent.

If it was sex I'd probably have a different view but a drunken snog is nowt to fume over.

ALSO can we not forget this is being alleged by PEREZ HILTON of all people? He's unhinged, and the fact that the details of his story have changed so many times since he began threatening legal action just suggests how totally uninformed he could be.

[Vanessa]

It's got nothing to do with being LGBT. Sounds like you're suggesting LGBT people hold themselves to a lower standard and accept things that hetero-normative folk would not. I'm pretty sure most people in here have expressed that it is somewhat creepy but that it's also not a huge deal considering it was a consensual kiss between two people that are of the legal age of consent.

If it was sex I'd probably have a different view but a drunken snog is nowt to fume over.

ALSO can we not forget this is being alleged by PEREZ HILTON of all people? He's unhinged, and the fact that the details of his story have changed so many times since he began threatening legal action just suggests how totally uninformed he could be.

He's definitely got the video. He showed some stills from it.

[Vanessa]

The consent laws in Japan are a bit more complicated than that, sex under 13 carries a minimum jail term but 13 isn't the age of full consent, there is another law about adults not engaging in sexual activity with "children" and most Japanese courts define children as anyone up to the age of 16, but some even 18. The issue is quite cloudy really. But in general, no, modern Japanese culture wouldn't consider 13 to be the appropriate age of full consent.

Ah ok, thanks. Sounds complicated :laugh: