Two-metre rule being reviewed amid hope relaxed restrictions could allow schools open

[Cherie]

The two-metre social distancing rule is being reviewed by the Government in the hope that relaxing the restriction could allow more businesses and schools to reopen, The Daily Telegraph understands.
Ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to look again at whether people need to stay so far apart, amid growing evidence that coronavirus does not transmit well in the air.

It is believed that the Government is considering reopening schools before the summer holidays – probably in June – so that there will be a natural point when they could be closed again if infections start to rise, without disrupting parents for a second time.
Unions met ministers on Friday and discussed plans for schools to be given three weeks’ notice to reopen, adding to speculation that pupils may start to return after the May half-term holiday.
It is also expected that schools will be opened in phases, such as primaries first and then secondaries, to monitor how the different age groups are affecting the R-rate, and scrapping the two-metre rule would make classes easier to manage

The World Health Organisation only recommends staying one metre apart, and following the less rigid approach would allow Britons to travel and work more freely when restrictions are eventually lifted.


There is also unhappiness that Britain’s social distancing rules are more stringent than countries such as France, Italy and Sweden.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/two-metre-rule-being-reviewed-amid-hope-relaxed-restrictions-could-allow-schools-to-reopen/ar-BB13udcW?ocid=spartanntp

[user104658]

Primary schools are a complicated one anyway. Younger children are less at risk if they get Covid, but up until really the exact same age range (about 9) trying to get them to social distance would be like herding cats. Older primary school kids (10 - 12 year olds) will be easier to get to stick to distancing rules, but are otherwise (slightly) more likely to get ill if they do come into contact with someone who has it.

But yeah, the idea of primary school teachers trying to get 5 and 6 year olds to stay ANY distance apart in somewhat hilarious. Cue Benny Hill soundtrack, etc.

[Nicky91]

idk, but if i were a parent i would think about sending children to schools, there is some other mystery child illness (that maybe linked to covid-19)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/27/what-is-the-new-illness-affecting-children-and-is-it-linked-to-coronavirus

https://nltimes.nl/2020/05/01/mystery-child-illness-possibly-linked-coronavirus-also-netherlands

read into this

[bots]

this sounds like complete rubbish. If the virus doesn't transmit well through the air, how are so many becoming infected, why did we go in to lock down across the world, and why did the numbers infected reduce on lock down. Honestly, it's complete bollocks

[Nicky91]

this sounds like complete rubbish. If the virus doesn't transmit well through the air, how are so many becoming infected, why did we go in to lock down across the world, and why did the numbers infected reduce on lock down. Honestly, it's complete bollocks

socialising in masses :shrug:

it basically transmits from either mouth or nose so with coughing/talking/sneezing

so face masks should more be worn by those who can transmit the virus, if you can stop transmission you can stop the spread


some here in Netherlands are making their own masks out of old T-shirts, cloths

[Cherie]

this sounds like complete rubbish. If the virus doesn't transmit well through the air, how are so many becoming infected, why did we go in to lock down across the world, and why did the numbers infected reduce on lock down. Honestly, it's complete bollocks

Yep I didnt get that either... :shrug:

[Zizu]

The two-metre social distancing rule is being reviewed by the Government in the hope that relaxing the restriction could allow more businesses and schools to reopen, The Daily Telegraph understands.

Ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to look again at whether people need to stay so far apart, amid growing evidence that coronavirus does not transmit well in the air.



It is believed that the Government is considering reopening schools before the summer holidays – probably in June – so that there will be a natural point when they could be closed again if infections start to rise, without disrupting parents for a second time.

Unions met ministers on Friday and discussed plans for schools to be given three weeks’ notice to reopen, adding to speculation that pupils may start to return after the May half-term holiday.

It is also expected that schools will be opened in phases, such as primaries first and then secondaries, to monitor how the different age groups are affecting the R-rate, and scrapping the two-metre rule would make classes easier to manage



The World Health Organisation only recommends staying one metre apart, and following the less rigid approach would allow Britons to travel and work more freely when restrictions are eventually lifted.





There is also unhappiness that Britain’s social distancing rules are more stringent than countries such as France, Italy and Sweden.



https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/two-metre-rule-being-reviewed-amid-hope-relaxed-restrictions-could-allow-schools-to-reopen/ar-BB13udcW?ocid=spartanntp



I saw that story / suggestion of relaxing the two metre rule in the Telegraph yesterday ..

I think it’s total BOLLOX .. they’re just desperate for headlines nowadays..

Apart from anything else .. It’s only last week researchers showed the virus airborne particles actually can travel up to 13 feet !!! ( 4 metres )


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[Oliver_W]

How about no?

I invite anyone who thinks it's a good idea to actually try implementing themselves in person ... especially in a behaviour school!

[Kizzy]

Is this for Tim Martins benefit so he can open his godawful pubs!?

[MTVN]

Most European countries do 1.5m distancing instead of 2m so that could be what they move to

[Denver]

So some parents are refusing to send kids back without a vaccine, their was one on my local news who was furloughed so if she refuses to send her kids to school she wont have a job and if she dont have a job she wont be entitled to benefits because she effectively quit her job

[Oliver_W]

So some parents are refusing to send kids back without a vaccine, their was one on my local news who was furloughed so if she refuses to send her kids to school she wont have a job and if she dont have a job she wont be entitled to benefits because she effectively quit her job

That rule is so stupid, even at the best of times. Crappy employers can make working conditions unpalatable, carry out constructive dismissal.

[Denver]

That rule is so stupid, even at the best of times. Crappy employers can make working conditions unpalatable, carry out constructive dismissal.

Wasnt it brought in because alot of people would quit the job straight away to stay on benefits

[Oliver_W]

Wasnt it brought in because alot of people would quit the job straight away to stay on benefits

Frankly I think even that should be okay :shrug: someone who wants to live the NEET lifestyle isn't going to be the hardest worker,and it's not like JSA pays a King's Ransom so leave 'em to it if that's the life they want.

[Cherie]

I mean when they say schools will open it wont be full on, it will be phased, part time, shorter days, partial class size

Surprised your school is shut Oliver, I guess they don't have any parents who are key workers, the special needs school in my area is open with staff going in on a rota basis, they only have 4 kids and they are different class rooms

[Oliver_W]

I mean when they say schools will open it wont be full on, it will be phased, part time, shorter days, partial class size

Surprised your school is shut Oliver, I guess they don't have any parents who are key workers, the special needs school in my area is open with staff going in on a rota basis, they only have 4 kids and they are different class rooms

As far as I know there aren't any key worker parents, not in any of "my" three classes anyway. Plus as it's one of like two behaviour schools anywhere near here, they're taxi'd in from all over the place including some from outside the county...

[Tom4784]

Honestly, until the stats begin to change, the current situation should remain in place, it'll only cause another peak and another lockdown if we rush out of this one too quickly.

[Beso]

Honestly, until the stats begin to change, the current situation should remain in place, it'll only cause another peak and another lockdown if we rush out of this one too quickly.

That's what all the knee quakers think, look at London statistics from beginning to end and top to bottom...herd immunity was infact the way to go if you look at it from those statistics.

[Zizu]

So some parents are refusing to send kids back without a vaccine, their was one on my local news who was furloughed so if she refuses to send her kids to school she wont have a job and if she dont have a job she wont be entitled to benefits because she effectively quit her job



Sadly most people can’t even tell the difference..


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[Zizu]

Honestly, until the stats begin to change, the current situation should remain in place, it'll only cause another peak and another lockdown if we rush out of this one too quickly.



It’s big businesses and Tory donors who are pressuring the government into kick starting the economy..the money men don’t care about the people’s health or safety


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[Scarlett.]

That's what all the knee quakers think, look at London statistics from beginning to end and top to bottom...herd immunity was infact the way to go if you look at it from those statistics.

The original herd immunity plan would have killed hundreds of thousands

[Withano]

Stupid idea. Primary schools should be amongst the last things to open.

The kids barely get the symptoms, and will all go back to their 200 different families each day.

[Denver]

Stupid idea. Primary schools should be amongst the last things to open.

The kids barely get the symptoms, and will all go back to their 200 different families each day.

Who are gonna pay the wages of the parents needing yo work

[Nicky91]

yes here in Netherlands it is 1.5 metres distance rule

same in Germany

[michael21]

The two-metre social distancing rule is being reviewed by the Government in the hope that relaxing the restriction could allow more businesses and schools to reopen, The Daily Telegraph understands.
Ministers have asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) to look again at whether people need to stay so far apart, amid growing evidence that coronavirus does not transmit well in the air.

It is believed that the Government is considering reopening schools before the summer holidays – probably in June – so that there will be a natural point when they could be closed again if infections start to rise, without disrupting parents for a second time.
Unions met ministers on Friday and discussed plans for schools to be given three weeks’ notice to reopen, adding to speculation that pupils may start to return after the May half-term holiday.
It is also expected that schools will be opened in phases, such as primaries first and then secondaries, to monitor how the different age groups are affecting the R-rate, and scrapping the two-metre rule would make classes easier to manage

The World Health Organisation only recommends staying one metre apart, and following the less rigid approach would allow Britons to travel and work more freely when restrictions are eventually lifted.


There is also unhappiness that Britain’s social distancing rules are more stringent than countries such as France, Italy and Sweden.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/two-metre-rule-being-reviewed-amid-hope-relaxed-restrictions-could-allow-schools-to-reopen/ar-BB13udcW?ocid=spartanntp


That newspaper also said there be big snow stomes there were none :fist:

[Cherie]

That newspaper also said there be big snow stomes there were none :fist:

we had some hailstone a few days ago :hmph:

I hope they don't relax the 2m rule as it will just muddy the waters

[Kizzy]

The scenes coming out of America relating to lockdown are hideous, medical staff being abused and protesters parading around with guns! :/

[user104658]

The scenes coming out of America relating to lockdown are hideous, medical staff being abused and protesters parading around with guns! :/

It was never going to go any other way, unfortunately. The American establishment can't even complain about it; it's a situation of their own making. They've drummed the narrative of freedom/anti-socialism/the right to bear arms into their civilian population since the birth of the States, and in recent years they've capitalized on that brand of "patriotism" hard, mostly to push war agendas.

And now they turn round and say "Ummm hehe actually guys, so listen, freedom isn't all that important... we want you all to stay in your homes for the foreseeable future... but don't worry we'll make sure you're supported by these heavily socialist policies"

...?

*Large swathes of the American population immediately grab their AR15's and take to the streets*

https://i.imgur.com/WIcddRj.png

[Withano]

Who are gonna pay the wages of the parents needing yo work

Being more concerned about the economy than peoples life is probably, and I’m not exaggerating, the most right wing thing I’ve read on here in years.

[Denver]

Being more concerned about the economy than peoples life is probably, and I’m not exaggerating, the most right wing thing I’ve read on here in years.

You want the country to stay closed until a vaccine potentially next year? There will be no shops left and the unemployment will be in the 10s of millions, the country will be in so much debt that they wont be able to pay benefits and other things and things like the NHS will have to be sold to make money

[user104658]

Being more concerned about the economy than peoples life is probably, and I’m not exaggerating, the most right wing thing I’ve read on here in years.You can't separate the two completely, though. It's a balance, not an either-or. The idea that a collapsing economy won't affect lives and have a significant death toll is really short-sighted. People are already dying because of service closures, and it's the tip of the iceberg compared to what the situation will be in six months/a year/beyond if we carry on with this idea that we can just shut down entire countries indefinitely and expect them to continue to function.

[Withano]

You want the country to stay closed until a vaccine potentially next year? There will be no shops left and the unemployment will be in the 10s of millions, the country will be in so much debt that they wont be able to pay benefits and other things and things like the NHS will have to be sold to make money

Um no. A sensible approach. Open more and more places as deaths reduce. Primary schools (and nightclubs and theatres etc) should be amongst the last to open like I originally said.

@ts, couldn’t be bothered to multi quote, but you too.