Voltaire's racism and supermarkets philosophy hour.

[The Slim Reaper]

Turns out he's an ambulance driver.

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[arista]

Yes Aaron's OK
I follow him.


It appears being Black
is a problem in UK and more Evil USA

[Denver]

Bit of a click bait title to suggest she is racist tbh and there is no proof in that tweet he is an ambulance driver, he also said he was arrested for a driving offence which means you cant drive an ambulance?

[The Slim Reaper]

Bit of a click bait title to suggest she is racist tbh and there is no proof in that tweet he is an ambulance driver, he also said he was arrested for a driving offence which means you cant drive an ambulance?

Where does the title say she is racist?

I said it turns out he's an ambulance driver.

Convictions can be "spent" especially if they're not drug or violence related.

[Liam-]

Bit of a click bait title to suggest she is racist tbh and there is no proof in that tweet he is an ambulance driver, he also said he was arrested for a driving offence which means you cant drive an ambulance?

He didn’t suggest she was racist, he was let go once they found his job Id and being arrested doesn’t mean charges were brought so he can be an ambulance driver

[caprimint]

There's literally no context to this at all?

Why is he stood in the middle of an estate? :umm2:

[Marsh.]

Cummings: *travels 260 miles for an Easter jolly*

TiBB: So? Government guidelines weren't laws.

Common man: *stands on an estate*

TiBB: Why is he stood in the middle of an estate? :umm2: (He lives there)

[Oliver_W]

How were they supposed to know he's an ambulance driver if he was there to meet his friend? Not enough context to really comment on this.

Though they should have done this with Cummings.

[The Slim Reaper]

There's literally no context to this at all?

Why is he stood in the middle of an estate? :umm2:

Why does it matter? He says on the vid he lives near there and he's come to see some friends.

[The Slim Reaper]

How were they supposed to know he's an ambulance driver if he was there to meet his friend? Not enough context to really comment on this.

Though they should have done this with Cummings.

Have you ever been arrested for standing near to where people live?

[Liam-]

Cummings: *travels 260 miles for an Easter jolly*

TiBB: So? Government guidelines weren't laws.

Common man: *stands on an estate*

TiBB: Why is he stood in the middle of an estate? :umm2: (He lives there)

:joker:

[user104658]

Stopping him, asking what he's doing and even asking him to move along; fine.

Moving to cuff someone who is being 100% compliant? No. She looks nervous and inexperienced IMO. Which is a problem in itself.

[Marsh.]

Stopping him, asking what he's doing and even asking him to move along; fine.

Moving to cuff someone who is being 100% compliant? No. She looks nervous and inexperienced IMO. Which is a problem in itself.

Yeah, almost like she was being as nice as possible to whack them cuffs on quick as possible before her voice broke. She'd decided she was cuffing and taking him "into custody" before even approaching him.

[caprimint]

Why does it matter? He says on the vid he lives near there and he's come to see some friends.
Because if you don't have full context you can't make a proper judgement :shrug:

Like I assume there was a reason the police were there to begin with and may have also had a reason for asking him questions...?

[user104658]

Yeah, almost like she was being as nice as possible to whack them cuffs on quick as possible before her voice broke. She'd decided she was cuffing and taking him "into custody" before even approaching him.Indeed, she also tipped her hand: she asked "Have you ever been arrested BEFORE", clearly indicating an intent to arrest when literally nothing at all had happened, and she hadn't even finished the basic questions.

[Denver]

Where does the title say she is racist?

I said it turns out he's an ambulance driver.

Convictions can be "spent" especially if they're not drug or violence related.

You put black guy in your title to insulate he was arrested for being black

[Oliver_W]

Have you ever been arrested for standing near to where people live?

I've never stood in the open during a "lockdown".

[caprimint]

You put black guy in your title to insulate he was arrested for being black
Literally

[Denver]

This has happened to many people during Coronavirus, the police have kinda been made redundant so need to find their own crimes to solve

[user104658]

Because if you don't have full context you can't make a proper judgement :shrug:



Like I assume there was a reason the police were there to begin with and may have also had a reason for asking him questions...?They had probably been tipped off about dealing in the area but that doesn't matter - that alone doesn't offer a good reason for physically restraining or cuffing someone who has already consented to being searched?

[Marsh.]

This has happened to many people during Coronavirus, the police have kinda been made redundant so need to find their own crimes to solve

:joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

Literally :joker:

[Marsh.]

The first time I've ever seen anyone try to seriously say the police are underworked. :skull:

[The Slim Reaper]

Stopping him, asking what he's doing and even asking him to move along; fine.

Moving to cuff someone who is being 100% compliant? No. She looks nervous and inexperienced IMO. Which is a problem in itself.

There's not even any reasonable reason to be suspicious though.

[Liam-]

You put black guy in your title to insulate he was arrested for being black

No he didn’t, the title clearly states what he was arrested for

[Liam-]

I've never stood in the open during a "lockdown".

People in England can meet up with people outside now can they not?

[user104658]

There's not even any reasonable reason to be suspicious though."There's loads of Intel to say that there's been drug dealing in this area"

"Oh OK like what?"

"Well... I mean... Look at it..."

[Liam-]

Also, not an ounce of ppe insight, she could be riddled and infecting him

[user104658]

Also, not an ounce of ppe insight, she could be riddled and infecting himI don't think I've seen a police officer in PPE yet, honestly.

They were stopping people around here last night because it was announced yesterday that from today you could meet people. They were making sure no one was doing it a day early :joker:. I was of course on my way to lovely M&S food Hall where there are no one way systems. Premium shopping experience.

[Marsh.]

Not M&S. You'll be joining Cherie for a wander round Waitrose soon.

[Liam-]

M&S? Might as well have a second home in Durham

[user104658]

Not M&S. You'll be joining Cherie for a wander round Waitrose soon.I don't rate Waitrose, it's a bit pretentious.

[Cherie]

Not M&S. You'll be joining Cherie for a wander round Waitrose soon.

:joker:

[Cherie]

I don't rate Waitrose, it's a bit pretentious.

:oh:

[Denver]

One item in M&S would just about be covered in my weekly shopping budget

[Oliver_W]

Waitrose? If I wanted to spend £200 for washing powder, I'd go to the alley behind the dodgy club.

[Cherie]

We don’t have a local Waitrose thats how downmarket we are :omgno:

M n S is the ultimate just walk in experience in these Covid times, no queuing with the plebs for me and TS

[Liam-]

I miss leisurely walks around the supermarket :(

[user104658]

One item in M&S would just about be covered in my weekly shopping budgetIf you have to pick just one, the rotisserie chicken that you cook in the bag is amazing.

[arista]

You put black guy in your title to insulate he was arrested for being black

Rubbish
Slim's thread is fine


The horrible Police Bitch
is sneaky

[user104658]

We don’t have a local Waitrose thats how downmarket we are :omgno:



M n S is the ultimate just walk in experience in these Covid times, no queuing with the plebs for me and TSI actually don't mind the queues Cherie, but the one way systems give me existential dread. I have nightmares about the arrows in Tesco.

[Marsh.]

I miss leisurely walks around the supermarket :(

Can't think of anything worse.

All forms of shopping are forms of torture for me.

[Marsh.]

I actually don't mind the queues Cherie, but the one way systems give me existential dread. I have nightmares about the arrows in Tesco.

Makes me laugh tbh, it's always the people in the most outrageous PPE gear that are coming down the aisles the wrong way and reach around you as you're looking at something. Seems counterintuitive.

Unless they're just Michael Jackson fans.

[user104658]

Makes me laugh tbh, it's always the people in the most outrageous PPE gear that are coming down the aisles the wrong way and reach around you as you're looking at something. Seems counterintuitive.



Unless they're just Michael Jackson fans.The PPE renders them immune to the covids, so they don't have to socially distance. It's an either/or decision.

[The Slim Reaper]

Rubbish
Slim's thread is fine


The horrible Police Bitch
is sneaky

Can't trust the double X chromosome combination. I think biologists have speculated that's the evolutionary origin of sneakiness.

[caprimint]

One item in M&S would just about be covered in my weekly shopping budget
:joker:

M&S >>>> Waitrose tho

[arista]

People in England can meet up with people outside now can they not?

More from Monday

[Kazanne]

We don’t have a local Waitrose thats how downmarket we are :omgno:

M n S is the ultimate just walk in experience in these Covid times, no queuing with the plebs for me and TS

We have a Waitrose its the only supermarket in our town, some of the products are expensive but others are on a par with other supermarkets, we have an Aldi, M&S and Lidl on the outskirts of town which is great if you drive,but not everyone can drive and its quite a way for elderly people.

[Liam-]

Aldi :love:

[Oliver_W]

Since moving to the village I generally do online shopping, because I'm laaazyyyy

[caprimint]

Aldi :love: (aside from the godawful queues outside of them now)

[user104658]

Mmmm aldi, flavourless vegetables, chicken that smells like it went off 3 days ago, and service with a grunt and a grimace. What more could you want.

[Denver]

Lidl bakery is amazing

[Liam-]

Mmmm aldi, flavourless vegetables, chicken that smells like it went off 3 days ago, and service with a grunt and a grimace. What more could you want.

Admittedly I’m not a fan of my shopping being throwing through the checkout like a shotput practice session

[MTVN]

How did this thread go from a heavy debate on excessive police force to chit chat about supermarkets in less than 3 pages

[Marsh.]

:joker:

[arista]

How did this thread go from a heavy debate on excessive police force to chit chat about supermarkets in less than 3 pages


Yes it went down a rabbit hole.


The Police Bitch
cuffed a black man in a sneaky way

[Oliver_W]

I sometimes miss walking around the supermarket (mine was always Morrisons) but I don't drive and work is a bus ride away and I cba with doing more than I need to when I don't have to :joker:

[Kazanne]

How did this thread go from a heavy debate on excessive police force to chit chat about supermarkets in less than 3 pages

:joker::joker:

[user104658]

How did this thread go from a heavy debate on excessive police force to chit chat about supermarkets in less than 3 pagesMiddle class supermarkets. It's a social commentary.

[Liam-]

I sometimes miss walking around the supermarket (mine was always Morrisons) but I don't drive and work is a bus ride away and I cba with doing more than I need to when I don't have to :joker:

I love Morrison’s, the fresh food counter is lush

[Oliver_W]

I love Morrison’s, the fresh food counter is lush

Sure is! I love the way the fruit and veg and fish and meat areas are made to look like a market <3

[Liam-]

Sure is! I love the way the fruit and veg and fish and meat areas are made to look like a market <3

What sort of upscale Morrison’s is this

[user104658]

Sure is! I love the way the fruit and veg and fish and meat areas are made to look like a market <3That's a friend of mines pet peeves. Like he hates it with a passion, it makes him furious, sometimes I casually mention it just to watch the chaos. I don't really know why. He hates it more than I hate Aldi.

[Oliver_W]

What sort of upscale Morrison’s is this

It's not quite as cool as it sounds :joker:

I couldn't find my town's one on google but it looks a bit like these

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HN9N62/morrisons-supermarket-victoria-park-bradford-HN9N62.jpg
https://dmrqkbkq8el9i.cloudfront.net/Pictures/480xany/0/6/7/142067_rsz_morrisons_produce_dept.jpg

[Oliver_W]

That's a friend of mines pet peeves. Like he hates it with a passion, it makes him furious, sometimes I casually mention it just to watch the chaos. I don't really know why. He hates it more than I hate Aldi.

Blimey, that's a random thing to hate :joker:

But to be fair, it's also a random thing to like :shrug:

It takes all sorts!

[Marsh.]

I bet it's a nightmare directing one way traffic around that.

[Liam-]

It's not quite as cool as it sounds :joker:

I couldn't find my town's one on google but it looks a bit like these

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HN9N62/morrisons-supermarket-victoria-park-bradford-HN9N62.jpg
https://dmrqkbkq8el9i.cloudfront.net/Pictures/480xany/0/6/7/142067_rsz_morrisons_produce_dept.jpg

Ooh yeah that’s what mine is like, you made it sound way posher that it really is, it’s a bit of a state really :joker:

[thesheriff443]

Yeah, almost like she was being as nice as possible to whack them cuffs on quick as possible before her voice broke. She'd decided she was cuffing and taking him "into custody" before even approaching him.

She was not taking him into custody, he was being detained for the perpose of a search

He played into her hands by admitting he had been arrested before giving her reasonable cause for detaining him for the purpose of a search.

[thesheriff443]

Has any one on here been arrested or had any interactions with the police?

I have had lots. My most recent experience was one of great understanding and compassion from the officers involved but I can also say I’ve had row with police calling me names as I gave them a piece of my mind.

And then there have been those that are pumped up and like having a power trip but they are soon put in their place when i know I’ve done nothing wrong.

[user104658]

She was not taking him into custody, he was being detained for the perpose of a search

He played into her hands by admitting he had been arrested before giving her reasonable cause for detaining him for the purpose of a search.

Up to that point was fine(ish) but she then tried to physically restrain him, and moved on to trying to cuff him, when he was being compliant with the search.

[user104658]

And then there have been those that are pumped up and like having a power trip but they are soon put in their place when i know I’ve done nothing wrong.

Hmm, but the point is, if you tried to put them in their place and you were black they would probably kick your legs out from under you, cuff you, and stick you in the back of the van.

[Marsh.]

She was not taking him into custody, he was being detained for the perpose of a search

He played into her hands by admitting he had been arrested before giving her reasonable cause for detaining him for the purpose of a search.

No, she cuffed him and told him he was going into custody at the very end of the video. This was after he'd already consented to a search and she saw fit to grab him like a piece of sh*t despite him posing no threat nor resisting a search.

[thesheriff443]

No, she cuffed him and told him he was going into custody at the very end of the video. This was after he'd already consented to a search and she saw fit to grab him like a piece of sh*t despite him posing no threat nor resisting a search.

No marsh she says you are going to be placed in cuffs he says about being placed in custody, she replied no and if the video hadn’t cut off she would of said not custody cuffs.

Her putting cuffs on him was to get control of the situation, have you never watched programs involving the police, some can lash out or do a runner in the blink of a eye.

[thesheriff443]

Hmm, but the point is, if you tried to put them in their place and you were black they would probably kick your legs out from under you, cuff you, and stick you in the back of the van.

See, you can’t just make those assumptions that if you are black the police will be racist, this country is no wear near as bad as America when it comes to racism in the police force.

[caprimint]

How did this thread go from a heavy debate on excessive police force to chit chat about supermarkets in less than 3 pages
:joker:

[caprimint]

I love Morrison’s, the fresh food counter is lush
Omg the salad bar is an absolute SLAY

[Marsh.]

Her putting cuffs on him was to get control of the situation, have you never watched programs involving the police, some can lash out or do a runner in the blink of a eye.

We're not discussing police, camera, action. There was no "situation" for her to get control of. He was polite and compliant with everything she asked.

She asks for him to stand and then gives him no time to do so before grabbing him to slap the cuffs on. She was not justified.

[thesheriff443]

We're not discussing police, camera, action. There was no "situation" for her to get control of. He was polite and compliant with everything she asked.

She asks for him to stand and then gives him no time to do so before grabbing him to slap the cuffs on. She was not justified.

Once she told him she was detaining him she is well within her legal right to hand cuff him.

He can protest but the law is the law.

[thesheriff443]

Police are just men and women in uniform.

There was a serving police officer in this country who recently strangled his lover to death.

You have to treat people as individuals and not tar every one with the same brush.

[Marsh.]

Nobody's tarring people with brushes. She's being judged on her poor performance in that video.

[Liam-]

Omg the salad bar is an absolute SLAY

The new potatoes are always undercooked!

[caprimint]

The new potatoes are always undercooked!
Lmao this is so true

But the bbq jackfruit... THE JACKFRUIT :drool:

[Kizzy]

I've never stood in the open during a "lockdown".

The lockdown has been relaxed, you can socialise if you social distance. Do you read the news?

[Oliver_W]

The lockdown has been relaxed, you can socialise if you social distance. Do you read the news?

I have been socialising anyway, while keeping distance :) when having or seeing friends and relatives we sit in the respective gardens, keeping distance.

But not loitering in public areas, like that particular gentleman seemed to be (from the news)

[Kizzy]

I have been socialising anyway, while keeping distance :) when having or seeing friends and relatives we sit in the respective gardens, keeping distance.

But not loitering in public areas, like that particular gentleman seemed to be (from the news)

He wasn't loitering, he clearly stated he lives in the area and was meeting friends in the fresh air.

The lockdown rules clearly state that is perfectly fine.

He was arrested for (no idea) and taken for random drug test.

[rusticgal]

Has any one on here been arrested or had any interactions with the police?

I have had lots. My most recent experience was one of great understanding and compassion from the officers involved but I can also say I’ve had row with police calling me names as I gave them a piece of my mind.

And then there have been those that are pumped up and like having a power trip but they are soon put in their place when i know I’ve done nothing wrong.

I got pulled over as I left the school fete...my mum and child in the car. Police were waiting outside the school gates and clocking people driving off before putting on seat belts...then radioed ahead and I got pulled over further down the road. I was told to get out the car and had my rights thrown at me like a criminal. I got back in the car and burst into tears...I know I was in the wrong but talk about laying it on thick...