Black lives matter.

[RileyH]

Please sign petitions, share and donate and do whatever you can to help. If you click the first gif in my sig it will take you to a great site with many ways to help out if you're unsure how that is frequently updated. The second gif will take you to a YT video created for the sole purpose of helping people donate even if they don't have money as all money made from ads will go straight towards donations. And there is so much more you can do. It's not enough to be silently non racist. We need to vocally be anti racism.

Black Lives Matter.

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[Mitchell]

Black Lives Matter.

[sleleen]

Black Lives Matter

[Daniel.]

If anyone can post where donations can be made please do

[RileyH]

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[SherzyK]

Anyway, #BLACKLIVESMATTER

[Amy Jade]

It's been so eye opening to see celebs either being silent or supporting the movement.

[Dogeatdog]

https://i.ibb.co/f1j7PvH/86240-CB1-6-DF7-4-B3-A-8-C13-58-C1103-FB281.jpg

#BlackLivesMatter

[Morgan.]

Black Lives Matter

[LukeB]

I've signed all the petitions and donated some money! #BlackLivesMatter

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[RileyH]

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Help stop immigrants being poisoned by ICE (https://www.change.org/p/change-org-immigrants-being-poisoned-by-ice?recruiter=1094886887)

[caprimint]

:clap1:

Black lives matter :love:

[JerseyWins]

#BlackLivesMatter :clap1: Justice for George Floyd & the way too many unjust deaths </3

[Redway]

Black lives matter.

[Aaliyah]

BLACK LIVES MATTER.

Anyone with that 'all lives matter' mess can F off!

[RileyH]

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[Greg!]

Look at this video, I’m so disgusted. I feel so ignorant for saying this but I had no idea police brutality in the US was this awful and widespread until the past few days, I’ve seen far too many videos like this on social media.
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Also this article has loads of links to places where you can support BLM and/or donate to help.
https://www.slamonline.com/the-magazine/where-to-donate-support-black-lives-matter/

[Denver]

BLACK LIVES MATTER.

Anyone with that 'all lives matter' mess can F off!

As I saw on Twitter earlier and it summed it up perfectly

How can All Lives Matter if Black Lives Dont Matter

[RileyH]

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[JerseyWins]

This is pretty damn cool :clap1: He actually QUIT HIS JOB with the OCPD to protest!

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[RileyH]

Good for him for taking a stand, exactly what I needed to see after this
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[JerseyWins]

Look at this video, I’m so disgusted. I feel so ignorant for saying this but I had no idea police brutality in the US was this awful and widespread until the past few days, I’ve seen far too many videos like this on social media.
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Also this article has loads of links to places where you can support BLM and/or donate to help.
https://www.slamonline.com/the-magazine/where-to-donate-support-black-lives-matter/
Pretty awful they were that unnecessarily abusive but this is in Compton so doesn't exactly set the example. That city supposedly needs investigating & help as a whole in a big way and maybe that does start with the PD tho. Obv the cops should know better regardless of location

This in the comments made me scream tho :skull: "what is he looking around for the cops???? oh wait......." OOOOOF :joker:

[Dogeatdog]

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Just a couple of some powerful images I’ve seen over the last few days. #BlackLivesMatter

[Ramsay]

Black lives matter :clap1:

[GoldHeart]

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https://i.ibb.co/k0yzvt4/C17-E4-E6-A-71-FB-434-E-A927-558-CC72-E169-A.jpg

Just a couple of some powerful images I’ve seen over the last few days. #BlackLivesMatter

Why is it so hard for dummies to understand about recognising that black lives matter and that it's not saying other lives don't matter.

Black lives matter is a movement to help those who need it especially at this crucial time. It's ashame people are too ignorant to understand .

I guess they don't know their history either

[Cherie]

https://i.ibb.co/h2jMLQy/B69-EF06-B-2999-4-BE9-ABC9-01536-B3-BBB27.jpg

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Just a couple of some powerful images I’ve seen over the last few days. #BlackLivesMatter

Great poster

[Nicky91]

yes great poster :)


i am more someone who wants to take that even further, and #SayingNOtoAllFormsofRacism

btw, from BLM twitter account
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[Alf]

According to a poll, BLM has increased racial tension by 55% in the UK.


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[Tom4784]

Yeah, racists don't like hearing that black lives matter, their white supremacy mindsets can't hear 'I matter as well' without converting it to 'I matter, you do not' because that's how they think.

I imagine the idea of black people saying that they matter too is really getting the racists' backs up.

[Kizzy]

According to a poll, BLM has increased racial tension by 55% in the UK.


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Hmmm I'd suggest blm is a product of a 55% increase in racial tension personally.

[Alf]

Yeah, racists don't like hearing that black lives matter, their white supremacy mindsets can't hear 'I matter as well' without converting it to 'I matter, you do not' because that's how they think.

I imagine the idea of black people saying that they matter too is really getting the racists' backs up.Yeah, like those protesters yesterday protesting because their lives matter. I don't think racists like hearing that their lives matter either. They just get called "Gammon" if they dare to speak up for themselves.

[Kizzy]

Yeah, like those protesters yesterday protesting because their lives matter. I don't think racists like hearing that their lives matter either. They just get called "Gammon" if they dare to speak up for themselves.

Get some perspective ... they are protesting for the right to spread a virus that could kill 1000s.

And you wonder why some question the mindset of others :/

[Alf]

Get some perspective ... they are protesting for the right to spread a virus that could kill 1000s.

And you wonder why some question the mindset of others :/That is definitely not what they're protesting for, so you get some perspective.

You seriously believe they're protesting for the right to spread a virus?

Mr Prime Minister

Can we please have the right to spread a virus?

[Glenn.]

If you’re protesting against a lockdown which has been put in place to stop the spread of a virus then kizzy is right. You know that of course but you seem to relish going against everything.

[Alf]

If you’re protesting against a lockdown which has been put in place to stop the spread of a virus then kizzy is right. You know that of course but you seem to relish going against everything.How long would you have to live in lock down before you had enough?

2 years?
5 years?
20 years?
50 years?

What would be your breaking point if they just kept going with it?

We're on our way to our 1 year anniversary and have just rebranded the term Lockdown to now become the tier system.

Your fear shouldn't be a reason to suppress their rights to live free and try and make a living for themselves.

[arista]

According to a poll, BLM has increased racial tension by 55% in the UK.


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Yes BLM Political Gang
are Trouble Makers

[user104658]

How long would you have to live in lock down before you had enough?



2 years?

5 years?

20 years?

50 years?



What would be your breaking point if they just kept going with it?



We're on our way to our 1 year anniversary and have just rebranded the term Lockdown to now become the tier system.



Your fear shouldn't be a reason to suppress their rights to live free and try and make a living for themselves.To be fair I don't totally disagree with you Alf - I think some things (social distancing, wearing masks, banning mass gatherings) are something we just have to accept for a while but there are other aspects that veer into "worrying" territory, for me. A major one is the recent legal restrictions on movement ("stay within your county or you're breaking the law"). As general ADVICE I don't mind it, but legally requiring it? The government says you MUST stay in your own little designated area or you're breaking the law? It's a step beyond, and I find it a concerning precedent that's now been set.

[WingsFan1]

Black lives matter if you disagree please go back to school

[Oliver_W]

Neither set of protests were particularly well-advised, no matter what they claim to stand for.

[arista]

Black lives matter if you disagree please go back to school


Sure
but the Political-BLM
are not good people.

[Gstar]

Yeah, racists don't like hearing that black lives matter, their white supremacy mindsets can't hear 'I matter as well' without converting it to 'I matter, you do not' because that's how they think.

I imagine the idea of black people saying that they matter too is really getting the racists' backs up.

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[Tom4784]

Yeah, like those protesters yesterday protesting because their lives matter. I don't think racists like hearing that their lives matter either. They just get called "Gammon" if they dare to speak up for themselves.

'Our lives matter, so we're protesting to carry on living our lives as normal because no one matters but us!'

That's the logic behind every anti-masker moron. To compare BLM to that rabble of should-have-been abortions is plain foolish. One is a protest against police brutality, the other is a protest in favour of letting a virus kill people.

[Oliver_W]

Yeah, like those protesters yesterday protesting because their lives matter.

If their lives matter they should situations which protesting puts them in :shrug:

[Alf]

'Our lives matter, so we're protesting to carry on living our lives as normal because no one matters but us!'

That's the logic behind every anti-masker moron. To compare BLM to that rabble of should-have-been abortions is plain foolish. One is a protest against police brutality, the other is a protest in favour of letting a virus kill people.They just want to be free to live life.

They've got nothing against you, if you want to live in fear and can afford to keep locked down, and want to wear a mask, then that's your choice, let them have their choice.

Their mindset is. They'd rather take their chances with Covid, which I believe has a 99% survival rate (feel free to correct me on that if I'm wrong) than die in poverty, or from depression, which is more certain than Covid.

[Tom4784]

They want to be free to infect and kill others because they feel slightly inconvenienced by measures that wouldn't be a problem if they didn't find a piece of fabric on their face to be such an attack on their 'rights'.

They are deeply stupid, selfish ***** and I can only laugh at them for being so repugnantly selfish.

Their mindset is 'I'll probably be okay so **** everyone else! Kids, we might kill nan but we'll have ourselves a normal christmas, godamnit!' Awful people that reject science because they are fragile and being told facts they don't like upsets them.

[Alf]

They want to be free to infect and kill others because they feel slightly inconvenienced by measures that wouldn't be a problem if they didn't find a piece of fabric on their face to be such an attack on their 'rights'.

They are deeply stupid, selfish ***** and I can only laugh at them for being so repugnantly selfish.

Their mindset is 'I'll probably be okay so **** everyone else! Kids, we might kill nan but we'll have ourselves a normal christmas, godamnit!' Awful people that reject science because they are fragile and being told facts they don't like upsets them.Losing business's and livelihoods is a little bit more than being slightly inconvenienced. Not to mention people who have been stopped from seeing their loved ones and can't even attend loved ones funerals. It's a dystopian horror show and inhumane.

Like I said earlier. There's no way people's fear should trump people's freedom. Too many people sacrificed themselves for that freedom. It's our duty to preserve it.

[Glenn.]

Losing business's and livelihoods is a little bit more than being slightly inconvenienced. Not to mention people who have been stopped from seeing their loved ones and can't even attend loved ones funerals. It's a dystopian horror show and inhumane.

Like I said earlier. There's no way people's fear should trump people's freedom. Too many people sacrificed themselves for that freedom. It's our duty to preserve it.

But their selfish way of thinking is allowed to kill many more people?

[Alf]

But their selfish way of thinking is allowed to kill many more people?Give me the rock solid proof of that and I'll agree with you. Otherwise, your opinion doesn't trump their freedom.

[Tom4784]

Losing business's and livelihoods is a little bit more than being slightly inconvenienced. Not to mention people who have been stopped from seeing their loved ones and can't even attend loved ones funerals. It's a dystopian horror show and inhumane.

Like I said earlier. There's no way people's fear should trump people's freedom. Too many people sacrificed themselves for that freedom. It's our duty to preserve it.

What a disgusting thing to say. People didn't make the ultimate sacrifice so a bunch of gammon can go out and spread a ****ing virus. These ****ing idiots are not defending their rights, they're trying to make out that they have the right to infect and kill others and by trying to rationalise such insanity, you are no better.

I have no time for these ****ing anti-mask morons and their whining when it is they who are preventing us from going back to normal because they can't sit at home for a few weeks.

These people are dangerous morons who are willing to let people die if it means they can go to the ****ing pub, **** everything about them. I only wish the worst for them.

[Glenn.]

If you cant see or will deliberately ignore the fact that thousands of people protesting in close proximity to each other, not wearing masks, in the middle of a pandemic that is killing people won’t spread the virus even further then I can’t help you. That’s common sense.

[Tom4784]

Give me the rock solid proof of that and I'll agree with you. Otherwise, your opinion doesn't trump their freedom.

If the word of leading scientists around the world telling you the same thing isn't enough to convince you, then nothing will.

[Alf]

I understand your points, and I know it's a fearful time for us all, in our different ways. But people have got to do what they've got to do.

These protesters arne:t there because they want to be, they're there because they have great concern.

[Alf]

If the word of leading scientists around the world telling you the same thing isn't enough to convince you, then nothing will.Dezzy, there are loads of leading scientists around the World saying differently too. Are they enough to convince you? Well ditto.

[Tom4784]

Dezzy, there are loads of leading scientists around the World saying differently too. Are they enough to convince you? Well ditto.

Except, I'm talking about actual scientists that, you know, exist? Not hypothetical ones to bolster an insane anti-science argument. My guess is that any scientists you're referring to are works of fiction or hacks that are appealing to the conspiracy loons' gullibility.

Pretty much every scientific mind worth their salt has said the same thing, you're ignoring the majority to focus on a non-existent example because the idea of it is more appealing.

You are free to do that, but I prefer to live in the real world.

[Alf]

Except, I'm talking about actual scientists that, you know, exist? Not hypothetical ones to bolster an insane anti-science argument. My guess is that any scientists you're referring to are works of fiction or hacks that are appealing to the conspiracy loons' gullibility.

Pretty much every scientific mind worth their salt has said the same thing, you're ignoring the majority to focus on a non-existent example because the idea of it is more appealing.

You are free to do that, but I prefer to live in the real world.Then it comes down to who people put their trust in. I don't remember you last December, campaigning for Boris, and telling us how trustworthy he is. But 11 months later you're willing to give up your freedom on the word of him and his team.

[bots]

Then it comes down to who people put their trust in. I don't remember you last December, campaigning for Boris, and telling us how trustworthy he is. But 11 months later you're willing to give up your freedom on the word of him and his team.

people arent adhering to guidelines because of Boris, they are doing it because they want to stay safe and well and also have consideration for those around them

[Oliver_W]

Dezzy, there are loads of leading scientists around the World saying differently too. Are they enough to convince you? Well ditto.

Who, do you have some links?

[Alf]

people arent adhering to guidelines because of Boris, they are doing it because they want to stay safe and well and also have consideration for those around themI don't see you showing much consideration for those who's livelihoods are being destroyed. Or those people commiting suicide from depression,. Or those who can't see their loved ones and can't send them off at a funeral. It does look more like you are the one who only cares about the self and your safety.

The generations that came before us, sacrificed their lives for freedom. This generation is sacrificing its freedom on the hope it saves lives.

[Alf]

Who, do you have some links?There's lots out there Oliver, have a research. I can't be bothered at the moment. But I will when I can be bothered, maybe tomorrow, if you haven't found anything. I've had a couple of beers and I'm not in the mood for searching for it.

[Glenn.]

I don't see you showing much consideration for those who's livelihoods are being destroyed. Or those people commuting suicide from depression,. Or those who can't see their loved ones and can't send them off at a funeral. It does look more like you are the one who only cares about the self and your safety.

The generations that came before us, sacrificed their lives for freedom. This generation is sacrificing its freedom on the hope it saves lives.

So people can die as long as other people can go out?

[Alf]

So people can die as long as other people can go out?I don't know what you mean? but I don't believe that's what I said.

[Elliot]

I’m screaming there’s no debate being had within science the consensus is there. Choosing not to believe it is of your own ignorant volition..

[Alf]

I’m screaming there’s no debate being had within science the consensus is there. Choosing not to believe it is of your own ignorant volition..You're entitled to that opinion, and other people are entitled to their's. What can you do?

[Alf]

Can anyone confirm that the survival rate from being infected with Covid is 99%. That's just a number I've seen, I don't know how accurate that is. But if it is accurate, then is crashing the economy and prohibiting people of their freedom the correct action?

[Cherie]

Can anyone confirm that the survival rate from being infected with Covid is 99%. That's just a number I've seen, I don't know how accurate that is. But if it is accurate, then is crashing the economy and prohibiting people of their freedom the correct action?

It’s around that but the survival rate isn’t the issue, if you let it rip through the population unchecked, hospitals just won’t be able to cope, ICU will be full of Covids on ventilators and if you or you Ma needs ICU care you can kiss goodbye to that

[user104658]

Can anyone confirm that the survival rate from being infected with Covid is 99%. That's just a number I've seen, I don't know how accurate that is. But if it is accurate, then is crashing the economy and prohibiting people of their freedom the correct action?Like Cherie says above its a bit more complicated than that because the strain on health services will cost lives (not just Covid deaths; deaths from all causes).

Also 1% is overall and you have to remember that under 25 the death rate is effectively 0% (not zero deaths but a miniscule proportion) and goes up with age; its probably 5%+ in 60 year olds and if you go up to 80 year olds it's as high as 20%.

So it's not as simple as saying "you have a 99% chance of survival" - it's not random, it depends on your age and health. If you're a fit 20 year old you have a 99.99% chance of survival. If you're a fat 70 year old you're probably in trouble.

A lot of the people protesting look to be in their 50's and have nowhere near 99% survival rate.

[Tom4784]

Then it comes down to who people put their trust in. I don't remember you last December, campaigning for Boris, and telling us how trustworthy he is. But 11 months later you're willing to give up your freedom on the word of him and his team.

Who gives a **** about Boris? This is about science and facts and nothing more. Both of which laugh in the face of these maskless morons.

[Tom4784]

I don't see you showing much consideration for those who's livelihoods are being destroyed. Or those people commiting suicide from depression,. Or those who can't see their loved ones and can't send them off at a funeral. It does look more like you are the one who only cares about the self and your safety.

The generations that came before us, sacrificed their lives for freedom. This generation is sacrificing its freedom on the hope it saves lives.

Trying to use people who sacrificed their lives to defend our rights and freedoms to argue for people having the right to infect others is just as disgusting as the first time you tried that argument.

[Alf]

Trying to use people who sacrificed their lives to defend our rights and freedoms to argue for people having the right to infect others is just as disgusting as the first time you tried that argument.I'm disgusting, but you're the one who called those protesters with genuine concerns for
their future as nothing more than "Gammon"

You've got no arguments, your arguments is just insulting people, always. Telling everybody how horrible people are, and how better you are than them.

[Alf]

Who gives a **** about Boris? This is about science and facts and nothing more. Both of which laugh in the face of these maskless morons.See?

"Maskless morons"

All your arguments are just insults of people.

[Elliot]

You are a moron if you don’t wear masks. You’re putting people more vulnerable than yourself at a great risk for literally no reason

[Alf]

You are a moron if you don’t wear masks. You’re putting people more vulnerable than yourself at a great risk for literally no reasonWhy, what do masks do?

[Alf]

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[user104658]

Again I think it's about the scale of the freedoms I guess.

Do we need the freedom to pack into stadiums when there's a virus around? No. Do we need the freedom to choose to not wear a mask? No (the argument is ridiculous; we've accepted clothing requirements for hundreds if not thousands of years)

Most other things I'm fine with as a firm suggestion but I start getting a bit uncomfortable with them being enforceable law. E.g. 2m social distancing - everyone should be doing it and conscious of it but do I think the police should cuff anyone who wanders too close to each other in Tesco? No. And again, the restriction of movement within the country is a huge one for me. The SUGGESTION that people try to stay in their own council area and use common sense I am perfectly fine with. The government-mandated legal ban on crossing county borders "except for reasons they say is OK"? Not so much. I find it a stretch too far. Its also simply ludicrous where I live because its a "commuter county" - probably 3/4 people who live here work in Glasgow, Edinburgh or other neighbouring counties which means most people cross county lines on a daily basis anyway - but not for groceries? Other things too, e.g. I live near the edge of a county which means we actually have to travel FURTHER to the nearest supermarket. Also can't take the dog up the coast to a big deserted beach where you don't come within 100m of another human... But instead have to walk the local dog walking routes, passing countless people. A lot of it is arbitrary authoritarianism with no real common sense or science behind it, yet mandated by law. Worrying.

[Elliot]

Again I think it's about the scale of the freedoms I guess.

Do we need the freedom to pack into stadiums when there's a virus around? No. Do we need the freedom to choose to not wear a mask? No (the argument is ridiculous; we've accepted clothing requirements for hundreds if not thousands of years)

Most other things I'm fine with as a firm suggestion but I start getting a bit uncomfortable with them being enforceable law. E.g. 2m social distancing - everyone should be doing it and conscious of it but do I think the police should cuff anyone who wanders too close to each other in Tesco? No. And again, the restriction of movement within the country is a huge one for me. The SUGGESTION that people try to stay in their own council area and use common sense I am perfectly fine with. The government-mandated legal ban on crossing county borders "except for reasons they say is OK"? Not so much. I find it a stretch too far. Its also simply ludicrous where I live because its a "commuter county" - probably 3/4 people who live here work in Glasgow, Edinburgh or other neighbouring counties which means most people cross county lines on a daily basis anyway - but not for groceries? Other things too, e.g. I live near the edge of a county which means we actually have to travel FURTHER to the nearest supermarket. Also can't take the dog up the coast to a big deserted beach where you don't come within 100m of another human... But instead have to walk the local dog walking routes, passing countless people. A lot of it is arbitrary authoritarianism with no real common sense or science behind it, yet mandated by law. Worrying.

Yes this is exactly how I feel. I have pretty bad asthma and I have zero issues wearing masks. It’s so insensitive, irresponsible and entitled to see people be so contrary to something so harmless when there’s other aspects about lockdown that are actually setting a worrying precedent

[Cherie]

Why, what do masks do?

can I ask Alf if you sneeze or cough do you put your hand over your mouth, its pretty much the same concept :shrug:

[user104658]

can I ask Alf if you sneeze or cough do you put your hand over your mouth, its pretty much the same concept :shrug:

Alf on the bus yesterday

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[Alf]

Like Cherie says above its a bit more complicated than that because the strain on health services will cost lives (not just Covid deaths; deaths from all causes).

Also 1% is overall and you have to remember that under 25 the death rate is effectively 0% (not zero deaths but a miniscule proportion) and goes up with age; its probably 5%+ in 60 year olds and if you go up to 80 year olds it's as high as 20%.

So it's not as simple as saying "you have a 99% chance of survival" - it's not random, it depends on your age and health. If you're a fit 20 year old you have a 99.99% chance of survival. If you're a fat 70 year old you're probably in trouble.

A lot of the people protesting look to be in their 50's and have nowhere near 99% survival rate.I imagine that influenza statistics are similar? Older people are more vulnerable?

We don't usually crash the the economy and turn ourselves into a totalitarian society every influenza season.

[The Slim Reaper]

I imagine that influenza statistics are similar? Older people are more vulnerable?

We don't usually crash the the economy and turn ourselves into a totalitarian society every influenza season.

Its weird to me that the government has been removing oversight, have introduced policies to attack a specific minority group (travellers), are attacking lawyers and judges, are knowingly hurting the country with brexit, and yet the authoritarianism card is being wheeled out when it's time protect Doris round the corner by wearing a mask.

Brought to us primarily, by the all lives matter crowd.

[Alf]

can I ask Alf if you sneeze or cough do you put your hand over your mouth, its pretty much the same concept :shrug:At the start, we were advised to cough into the inside of our elbows. That was fine, I happily went along with that and still do that.

I went along with the metres apart advise, that's no problem. I wasn't obsessive about it, but tried to be respectful to others.

The only time I wear a mask is when I'm going in a shop, I put it on as I'm entering and take it immediately off as I leave. The only reason I wear one in shops is because I understand that people are really fearful, and fully believe this advice is the Gospel. Most of them don't even ask for a second opinion.

I've had the same mask since the mask thing came in, I haven't washed it once, I don't know what it's doing other than making me look like a dork and feeling uncomfortable.

[Alf]

Its weird to me that the government has been removing oversight, have introduced policies to attack a specific minority group (travellers), are attacking lawyers and judges, are knowingly hurting the country with brexit, and yet the authoritarianism card is being wheeled out when it's time protect Doris round the corner by wearing a mask.

Brought to us primarily, by the all lives matter crowd.No understandio!

[Cherie]

At the start, we were advised to cough into the inside of our elbows. That was fine, I happily went along with that and still do that.

I went along with the metres apart advise, that's no problem. I wasn't obsessive about it, but tried to be respectful to others.

The only time I wear a mask is when I'm going in a shop, I put it on as I'm entering and take it immediately off as I leave. The only reason I wear one in shops is because I understand that people are really fearful, and fully believe this advice is the Gospel. Most of them don't even ask for a second opinion.

I've had the same mask since the mask thing came in, I haven't washed it once, I don't know what it's doing other than making me look like a dork and feeling uncomfortable.

oh right, I only wear a mask in shops as well, if I am out walking the dog or whatever I don't bother

[Tom4784]

I'm disgusting, but you're the one who called those protesters with genuine concerns for
their future as nothing more than "Gammon"

You've got no arguments, your arguments is just insulting people, always. Telling everybody how horrible people are, and how better you are than them.

Those protesters are nothing more than morons who reject science because they don't like facts. They aren't bothered about their future, they just feel mildly inconvenienced by the lockdown and are throwing tantrums about it while only helping spread the virus by not wearing masks in crowded places and generally being dumb.

Using dead soldiers who sacrificed it all to push an agenda of ignorance and risking vulnerable lives is disgusting. These people didn't die just so a bunch of dumb gammon can spread a virus to kill the elderly and vulnerable, to do such a thing is not a ****ing right of yours' or anyone else's.

[Tom4784]

See?

"Maskless morons"

All your arguments are just insults of people.

Anyone who doesn't wear a mask is a moron, a moron that rejects science and facts.

[DouglasS]

Mildly inconvienced? People are losing their own businesses that they have dedicated their lives to building... So many people have lost jobs and are unable to pay to feed their family properly... self employed workers are screwed by the furlough scheme and can’t afford to live. These are all impacts of lockdown. I get your point about the spread of the virus but you are downplaying the impact Massively, saying to a lot these people that they are mildly inconvienced is like spitting in their face

[Tom4784]

Few, if any, of these protesters are wearing masks. You can try to make out it's about livelihood and higher purposes, but let's be real, it's a bunch of right wing anti-mask nutjobs and nothing more.

Ridiculous creatures, idiots the lot of them.

[Alf]

Anyone who doesn't wear a mask is a moron, a moron that rejects science and facts.I bet you just put yours on as soon as your television told you too?

There was nobody available to give you a second opinion. Because you'd already made up your mind that if anybody had a different opinion to your television, then they are just morons or gammon and instead of being heard out, they should just be insulted.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yeah, these protests aren't anything to do with the economy or hurting people, because they lived through 10 years of austerity without saying dick.

[Tom4784]

If these people care about what you are making them out to care about then why aren't they adhering to the lockdown? If we followed the advice of experts then we wouldn't have had a second lockdown, ignoring social distancing and not wearing masks in crowded places and then crying about the lockdown is peak stupidity.

[The Slim Reaper]

I bet you just put yours on as soon as your television told you too?

There was nobody available to give you a second opinion. Because you'd already made up your mind that if anybody had a different opinion to your television, then they are just morons or gammon and instead of being heard out, they should just be insulted.

What's the 2nd opinion, and where is it coming from? It just seems to be a case of let me back in the boozer and not wear a mask.

[Tom4784]

I bet you just put yours on as soon as your television told you too?

There was nobody available to give you a second opinion. Because you'd already made up your mind that if anybody had a different opinion to your television, then they are just morons or gammon and instead of being heard out, they should just be insulted.

How dare I listen to experts that know more about how to handle outbreaks and viruses better than all of us combined?! I should just follow your lead and listen to whatever madcap conspiracy theory will tell me what I want to hear.

I listen to science and facts, two things you have entirely divorced yourself from.

Clutching your pearls over me insulting protesters is kind of hollow and ridiculous when you're arguing for people's rights to infect others.

[Alf]

Had my fill of him, he's on ignore.

[Tom4784]

That's an odd way to say 'I can't argue against what you're saying but I can't bring myself to admit it.'

[Nicky91]

How dare I listen to experts that know more about how to handle outbreaks and viruses better than all of us combined?! I should just follow your lead and listen to whatever madcap conspiracy theory will tell me what I want to hear.

I listen to science and facts, two things you have entirely divorced yourself from.

Clutching your pearls over me insulting protesters is kind of hollow and ridiculous when you're arguing for people's rights to infect others.

yeah exactly, the ones i myself listen to are Dr Sanjay Gupta and Dr Anthony Fauci

and i kinda also want to listen to south korean officials given they got this pandemic a lot better under control than in the west

and i want to listen to the WHO still given their scientists do their research on this virus 24/7


science/facts show us there is still so much more to learn about this virus

[AnnieK]

When the anti mask protesters are gasping for breath due to having contracted the virus will they still be protesting in the streets or will they be heading to A & E to be treated by a medic who has worked 80+ hours that week trying to save the lives of people who have already got it?

Don't wear a mask if you don't want, I don't really care as long as you stay away from people who do care about their health and the health of their loved ones.

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1356176731661623307

[Oliver_W]

:joker:

So they managed to find a more ridiculous candidate for the Peace Prize than Trump.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/04/20/30393788-0-image-a-4_1593891958602.jpg
"The Prize is in here somewhere!"

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

So they managed to find a more ridiculous candidate for the Peace Prize than Trump.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/04/20/30393788-0-image-a-4_1593891958602.jpg
"The Prize is in here somewhere!"

:laugh2:

[Beso]

Black lives matter.

Ok, let's force vaccinate the high percentage of elderly black people who are refusing to take the vaccine.