A question regarding coronavirus during the protests

[Strictly Jake]

I know how important the protests are

But with how many people are taking part in them is the peak going to go back up again

Because the protests are happening in this country too

[Smithy]

The rate was already going to go back up because of the incompetence of the government, let’s not try to blame protesters as apposed to ignorant people who have flouted the rules for weeks

[RileyH]

The rate was already going to go back up because of the incompetence of the government, let’s not try to blame protesters as apposed to ignorant people who have flouted the rules for weeks

:clap1:

[Josy]

I think a second wave was always going to inevitable here tbh

That said I would imagine large crowds of any kind will have an impact, we see the photos of overcrowded beaches and beauty spots being reported on as being a danger and breeding ground for the virus spreading and the r number to rise again so I dont see why protest crowds would be any different

[Strictly Jake]

Im not blaming them. Everyone knows what side im on

Im just geniunely concerned about all these people that are most likely going to get it now

[Oliver_W]

The protests are probably gonna make the second wave higher than it would have been.

[Denver]

The virus will disappears but the pandemic of racism toward the black race will not unless action is taken

[DouglasS]

It will definitely accelerate the cases sadly

[Smithy]

The protests are probably gonna make the second wave higher than it would have been.

Nope

Beaches this weekend

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We wouldn’t stand a chance anyway, plus most people at the protests are wearing facemasks and/or observing social distancing

[Strictly Jake]

Nope

Beaches this weekend

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We wouldn’t stand a chance anyway, plus most people at the protests are wearing facemasks and/or observing social distancing

People are so stupid! Got a beach round the corner from me but there are so many people around I avoid it! (Smithy as your from the same town as me you will know why I wouldnt want to be on a beach with these people!)

I have seen most wearing masks at the protests but a lot arent and it looks very very crammed in(im talking about America I havent seen many photos of uk ones)

[Oliver_W]

Nope

Beaches this weekend

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We wouldn’t stand a chance anyway, plus most people at the protests are wearing facemasks and/or observing social distancing

Both these and people going to protests will help the virus spread :shrug:

[Strictly Jake]

I just think the lockdown was a complete waste of time

All the hard work we did has gone out of the window

We are all being rushed back to work etc

Everyone is seeing friends and family despite scientists saying its too dangerous

Add to that mass gatherings at beaches and protests

The 11 weeks we were stuck in was for nothing

[RileyH]

It will definitely accelerate the cases sadly

Can you please tell me which part about people going out and protesting police brutality and black people's rights to be treated like human beings is sad?

[James]

I just want to point out the beach photos - apart from the second one - are taken from a low angle, and from a distance, which makes everyone look closer together.

The press were doing that with pictures recently.

[Smithy]

People are so stupid! Got a beach round the corner from me but there are so many people around I avoid it! (Smithy as your from the same town as me you will know why I wouldnt want to be on a beach with these people!)

I have seen most wearing masks at the protests but a lot arent and it looks very very crammed in(im talking about America I havent seen many photos of uk ones)

God I wouldn’t want to be on that beach even if there wasn’t a pandemic :laugh:

[Strictly Jake]

God I wouldn’t want to be on that beach even if there wasn’t a pandemic :laugh:

:joker::joker:

[Oliver_W]

Can you please tell me which part about people going out and protesting police brutality and black people's rights to be treated like human beings is sad?

The part where they might catch a virus which has been shown to be more deadly to BAME people?

[LukeB]

People are so stupid! Got a beach round the corner from me but there are so many people around I avoid it! (Smithy as your from the same town as me you will know why I wouldnt want to be on a beach with these people!)

I have seen most wearing masks at the protests but a lot arent and it looks very very crammed in(im talking about America I havent seen many photos of uk ones)

America doesn't even have strict lockdown that other countries had and while other countries are getting less cases and less deaths (uk included but with people going to beaches and forgetting the social distance rules we might get a second wave) america's numbers are not getting better and have been the same for weeks

[Strictly Jake]

America doesn't even have strict lockdown that other countries had and while other countries are getting less cases and less deaths (uk included but with people going to beaches and forgetting the social distance rules we might get a second wave) america's numbers are not getting better.

I actually think the numbers may be higher in america than has been stated

When we see how big the fees are to be in hospital there I think it would stop a lot of people going to a hospital and therefore the case numbers would go unreported

[DouglasS]

Can you please tell me which part about people going out and protesting police brutality and black people's rights to be treated like human beings is sad?

I didn’t say it was sad. I am just saying that the protestors Are sadly going to be more exposed to the virus and more likely to catch it and therefore more likely to then spread it To vulnerable people/relatives

[caprimint]

Can you please tell me which part about people going out and protesting police brutality and black people's rights to be treated like human beings is sad?
Surely more people catching/spreading coronavirus is enough to understand this post? :unsure:

[Denver]

The part where they might catch a virus which has been shown to be more deadly to BAME people?

A stand against the racism can nit wait much longer

[RileyH]

People literally pick and choose when they want to care about lockdown / corona and it really shows.

[Strictly Jake]

God I wouldn’t want to be on that beach even if there wasn’t a pandemic :laugh:

Actually the worst part is people are swimming in the sea which is morecambe bay the same sea that people in blackpool are swimming in. Seen as though blackpool is now in the top 2 covid hotspots of the UK thats a very bad idea. What if they swallow the water that an infected person has swam in. Ewwwww

[Strictly Jake]

People literally pick and choose when they want to care about lockdown / corona and it really shows.

This isnt aimed at me is it? As I made this thread. Not in the aim of offending not in the name of blaming but simply out of concern. Also I havent broke lockdown rules. Apart from being a key worker and having to go to work a few times recently to clean a school and the odd shopping trip to get essentials like milk etc . I havent even been out for walks. Me and my family have been in the house or garden

[RileyH]

This isnt aimed at me is it? As I made this thread. Not in the aim of offending not in the name of blaming but simply out of concern. Also I havent broke lockdown rules. Apart from being a key worker and having to go to work a few times recently to clean a school and the odd shopping trip to get essentials like milk etc . I havent even been out for walks. Me and my family have been in the house or garden

No it wasn't aimed at you :love:

[Strictly Jake]

No it wasn't aimed at you :love:

Ok cool :hee:

[bots]

I just want to point out the beach photos - apart from the second one - are taken from a low angle, and from a distance, which makes everyone look closer together.

The press were doing that with pictures recently.

yes, they are making it look more crowded than it actually is. Also the danger of spreading the virus in the open air has always been very low. Add to that the higher UV index at the moment that kills the virus and it's not that unsafe.

Indoor areas have always been the major problem, so things like tube trains and buses are much more of a problem.


So, to answer the original question, no it won't have much effect

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think a second wave was always going to inevitable here tbh

That said I would imagine large crowds of any kind will have an impact, we see the photos of overcrowded beaches and beauty spots being reported on as being a danger and breeding ground for the virus spreading and the r number to rise again so I dont see why protest crowds would be any different

the chances of getting the virus outdoors in the sun is very very small. You would need to talk to someone close for 15 minutes to raise the threat and they would need to be infected.

THe virus is spread in close contact inside places where people talk

Forget the tabloid clamour about beaches, that has little or no impact

source: science

[Samm]

The difference is the people who attend protests a good majority of them use masks. People who have gone to beaches don’t.

[user104658]

Actually the worst part is people are swimming in the sea which is morecambe bay the same sea that people in blackpool are swimming in. Seen as though blackpool is now in the top 2 covid hotspots of the UK thats a very bad idea. What if they swallow the water that an infected person has swam in. Ewwwww

Because of how water diffusion works that's not really a concern... any viral particles entering the water from an infected individual would be instantly diluted to the point of not being a realistic risk. Also it's salt water which makes it even less likely the virus could survive.

The real risk is sewage pollution; if there's untreated pollution in the water it could (in theory) carry various things. This shouldn't be a huge concern these days though - untreated sewage SHOULDN'T be getting into beach water. And if it was, you'd have more than Covid to worry about if you went swimming in it.