Video of Atlanta cop killing black man released by Police Department

[Liberty4eva]

I'm sure this will fascinate some people here. Here's the obvious question: did the cop act appropriately?

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[Oliver_W]

So brawling with armed cops can get you killed? Even if the cops were acting completely reasonable up until that point? Gosh.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[arista]

Yes The Cop's were doing there Job
its sad he took a Taser, and Fired it at the Police.

Drunk driver for sure


There is a uncut video on this link
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8418741/PICTURED-Atlanta-cop-Garrett-Rolfe-fatally-shot-Rayshard-Brooks-outside-Wendys.html

[The Slim Reaper]

No one needed to die. They have his details, so let him sneak away and pick him up the following day when he's sober. Bravado and machismo took over and their ego's became the most important thing, rather than a man's life.

More worried about getting stick in the locker room from other cops than to actually protect and serve.

[arista]

No one needed to die. They have his details, so let him sneak away and pick him up the following day when he's sober. Bravado and machismo took over and their ego's became the most important thing, rather than a man's life.

More worried about getting stick in the locker room from other cops than to actually protect and serve.


He fires a Taser he took from one officer
So the Cop fired from a distance
its sad he died.
That Young Cop was Fired.


He was doing his Job.

[Oliver_W]

His firing feels a bit like a "sacrificial lamb" because of all that's going on.

No-one could reasonably say this cop should face criminal charges, and the killing doesn't even warrant a brick being thrown, but in the current climate the force can't be seen to let it slide.

[The Slim Reaper]

He fires a Taser he took from one officer
So the Cop fired from a distance
its sad he died.
That Young Cop was Fired.


He was doing his Job.

No one needed to die. He was running away so he wasn't a threat to them. This isn't the wild west. Someone doing something bad isn't an excuse for murder.

[arista]

His firing feels a bit like a "sacrificial lamb" because of all that's going on.

No-one could reasonably say this cop should face criminal charges, and the killing doesn't even warrant a brick being thrown, but in the current climate the force can't be seen to let it slide.


Yes
and the Police Chief
also resigned.


He did everything by the book.

That perp was 100% Drunk Driver

[Liam-]

Shooting someone in the back while they’re running away, with a non-lethal weapon is grounds for being fired

[arista]

No one needed to die. He was running away so he wasn't a threat to them. This isn't the wild west. Someone doing something bad isn't an excuse for murder.


Wrong
that changed once he Fired the stolen Taser at the Police


How can you - not see that?

[Liberty4eva]

No one needed to die. They have his details, so let him sneak away and pick him up the following day when he's sober. Bravado and machismo took over and their ego's became the most important thing, rather than a man's life.

More worried about getting stick in the locker room from other cops than to actually protect and serve.

I also think they didn't need to kill him. He wasn't posing a threat to the officers. He was trying to get away. They had his license and everything.

[arista]

I also think they didn't need to kill him. He wasn't posing a threat to the officers. He was trying to get away. They had his license and everything.

Yes but running away from a Legit Arrest
Grabbing a Cop's taser, and Firing it


He was a threat.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes but running away from a Legit Arrest
Grabbing a Cop's taser, and Firing it


He was a threat.

In what world is running in the opposite direction a threat?

[Liberty4eva]

Yes but running away from a Legit Arrest
Grabbing a Cop's taser, and Firing it


He was a threat.

He only fired it because he was running after him.

[Denver]

His firing feels a bit like a "sacrificial lamb" because of all that's going on.

No-one could reasonably say this cop should face criminal charges, and the killing doesn't even warrant a brick being thrown, but in the current climate the force can't be seen to let it slide.

If he deserves to be killed for holding a known lethal weapon then sk dot he cops

[user104658]

To be fair... To say that a taser is not a potentially deadly weapon is just not true. They can do a lot of damage in the wrong hands up to and including killing someone. They couldn't reasonably just let someone go home with a deadly weapon stolen from the police and pick it up later... That would be insanely reckless.

However, they knew for a fact that he only had a taser, so why did they not use... Tasers? Why use a firearm that's far more likely to cause a fatal injury?

Again it's one of those situations where I can't help but think, if it had happened in the UK this person would be alive because shooting him wouldn't have been an option. They would have found another way to apprehend him and get the weapon back. Which means, its obviously possible to police without relying on lethal force... And it feels like in places where they have the option, it's often used out of simple habit, laziness or fear.

[user104658]

I actually saw a video from somewhere near here recently of a guy (drug addict, I believe) going nuts in the street, smashing up cars, got surrounded by police and started smashing a police van window and attacking the police. He was tasered and arrested. I couldn't help but think... If this was America he'd be full of holes.

[Liberty4eva]

I actually saw a video from somewhere near here recently of a guy (drug addict, I believe) going nuts in the street, smashing up cars, got surrounded by police and started smashing a police van window and attacking the police. He was tasered and arrested. I couldn't help but think... If this was America he'd be full of holes.

Probably.

[Denver]

To be fair... To say that a taser is not a potentially deadly weapon is just not true. They can do a lot of damage in the wrong hands up to and including killing someone. They couldn't reasonably just let someone go home with a deadly weapon stolen from the police and pick it up later... That would be insanely reckless.

However, they knew for a fact that he only had a taser, so why did they not use... Tasers? Why use a firearm that's far more likely to cause a fatal injury?

Again it's one of those situations where I can't help but think, if it had happened in the UK this person would be alive because shooting him wouldn't have been an option. They would have found another way to apprehend him and get the weapon back. Which means, its obviously possible to police without relying on lethal force... And it feels like in places where they have the option, it's often used out of simple habit, laziness or fear.

The officers also had body armour on so if he hit their chest with it then it would be ineffective

[arista]

"Why use a firearm that's far more likely to cause a fatal injury?"

The cop was running after him
he refused to stop
it's normal in USA to fire a gun,
Sadly he died.


He would not let them Cuff him.

[bots]

i would say it was down to training deficiencies more than anything else. Someone who is trained knows how to approach those situations and how to react properly

[user104658]

"Why use a firearm that's far more likely to cause a fatal injury?"

The cop was running after him
he refused to stop
it's normal to fire a gun,
Sadly he died.


He would not let them Cuff him.Firing a gun at a fleeing suspect is not "normal" at all, and is in fact very likely the reason the officer was fired.

[Tom4784]

White mass shooters have been captured alive and taken into custody, these mass murderers with automatic rifles that can kill crowds in seconds are given more consideration and care than unarmed black people running away from their killers.

[arista]

Firing a gun at a fleeing suspect is not "normal" at all, and is in fact very likely the reason the officer was fired.


It is very normal in USA
Do not forget he fought off the 2 Police officers

[arista]

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[Tom4784]

It is very normal in USA
Do not forget he fought off the 2 Police officers

Again, officers can bring down a mass shooter and not hurt him but they can't de-escalate a situation with an unarmed black man without killing him?

[Oliver_W]

Death Wish <3

love the old movies where the pensioner runs around killing folks <3

[Liam-]

White mass shooters have been captured alive and taken into custody, these mass murderers with automatic rifles that can kill crowds in seconds are given more consideration and care than unarmed black people running away from their killers.

They gave Dylan Roof Burger King

[user104658]

It is very normal in USA

Do not forget he fought off the 2 Police officersIt's not normal. Shooting a fleeing suspect in the back is against the rules. It's a fireable offense, and was the specific justification for taking action against this officer. I mean feel free to look it up...

[arista]

Again, officers can bring down a mass shooter and not hurt him but they can't de-escalate a situation with an unarmed black man without killing him?


He escaped from a Cuff Arrest
took a taser gun from one officer Fired it hitting
one officer on the arm.



That Police man was running and fired his gun
that sadly killed him.


He was so drunk
he was asleep in the line of cars at that Wendys

Dezzy are you saying he was not a Drunk Driver?

[Oliver_W]

They gave Dylan Roof Burger King

Exactly, I wouldn't wish that on anyone!

[arista]

Death Wish <3

love the old movies where the pensioner runs around killing folks <3


No Listen to the Words the singer
Chris Farlow sings
Jimmy Page Song he plays the Guitars

[Tom4784]

He escaped from a Cuff Arrest
took a taser gun from one officer Fired it hitting
one officer on the arm.



That Police man was running and fired his gun
that sadly killed him.


He was so drunk
he was asleep in the line of cars at that Wendys

Dezzy are you saying he was not a Drunk Driver?

Again, the police can safely bring down a white mass murderer armed with an AR-15 but you're going to try to justify two armed cops executing an unarmed black man for running away when TS has said multiple times that shooting a running man is against the law?

You think a black man deserves to die for running away and being drunk but you keep ignoring my point that white mass shooters have been taken in alive?

[Zizu]

It's not normal. Shooting a fleeing suspect in the back is against the rules. It's a fireable offense, and was the specific justification for taking action against this officer. I mean feel free to look it up...



Why on earth didn’t he just shoot him in the leg just to slow him down ?


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[Marsh.]

To be fair... To say that a taser is not a potentially deadly weapon is just not true. They can do a lot of damage in the wrong hands up to and including killing someone. They couldn't reasonably just let someone go home with a deadly weapon stolen from the police and pick it up later... That would be insanely reckless.

However, they knew for a fact that he only had a taser, so why did they not use... Tasers? Why use a firearm that's far more likely to cause a fatal injury?

Again it's one of those situations where I can't help but think, if it had happened in the UK this person would be alive because shooting him wouldn't have been an option. They would have found another way to apprehend him and get the weapon back. Which means, its obviously possible to police without relying on lethal force... And it feels like in places where they have the option, it's often used out of simple habit, laziness or fear.

This.

Situations like this make it clear that guns are the easy resort for cops rather than the last one.

[Zizu]

What’s going on with Sky and their headlines?
They have a moving banner saying a Black guy who had fallen asleep in his car was shot and killed by police .. yet I’ve read elsewhere that he was drunk , resisted arrest , fought two cops off and managed to get hold of one of their tasers , pointed it at the cop who then reacted by shooting him dead .

It’s an awful story and at worst I’d have expected the cop to shoot to immobilise the guy rather than killing ... but the Sky headline seems misleading IF what I read about the incident was correct


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[Denver]

Why on earth didn’t he just shoot him in the leg just to slow him down ?


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They had back up on the way and had his details, they could have let him go without killing him

[Amy Jade]

I get that he needed to be stopped, a taser can be deadly and he was obviously not fit to drive.

However, when he was fleeing, why did the cop not use the other taser? Why shoot the suspect 3 times in the back instead of maybe once in the leg or shoulder?

[thesheriff443]

Doing stupid things can get you killed.

[arista]

I get that he needed to be stopped, a taser can be deadly and he was obviously not fit to drive.

However, when he was fleeing, why did the cop not use the other taser? Why shoot the suspect 3 times in the back instead of maybe once in the leg or shoulder?


Sadly "while running" it's harder to get such a required
shot out.

[arista]

Doing stupid things can get you killed.


Yes that's why America
is the nation of the Gun.

[thesheriff443]

Yes that's why America
is the nation of the Gun.

Being so drunk that you fall asleep while waiting to get food in a drive thru means he could of wiped someone out ont the way home

He made some stupid choices that where a factor with him getting shot.

[Denver]

Doing stupid things can get you killed.

Yet white supremacists can storm buildings with guns and not get punished

[thesheriff443]

Yet white supremacists can storm buildings with guns and not get punished

You can’t play top trumps, they are not supremacists but white scum.

[arista]

Yet white supremacists can storm buildings with guns and not get punished


Yes they are well established to the Police

[Oliver_W]

Yet white supremacists can storm buildings with guns and not get punished

How many people got injured during that event?

How do you know they were "white supremacists", I assume you're talking about the anti-lockdown mob?

They were armed to the teeth, if they actually wanted to storm the building, they could have.

[arista]

How many people got injured during that event?

How do you know they were "white supremacists", I assume you're talking about the anti-lockdown mob?

They were armed to the teeth, if they actually wanted to storm the building, they could have.


None At All.

[Cherie]

Very sad situation, its unclear why the situation changed so quickly as it was so composed, agree with others if the policeman didn't have a gun, there would be no death, not sure how they can address that in the USA given the public can bear arms though

[user104658]

How many people got injured during that event?

How do you know they were "white supremacists", I assume you're talking about the anti-lockdown mob?

They were armed to the teeth, if they actually wanted to storm the building, they could have.

None were injured but that's the point; the authorities simply let them carry on protesting, fully armed, without intervening. No one was hurt because no one even tried to interfere with them.

They did storm the building. They were inside, lining the corridors and stairs. They didn't have to enter by force, because no one tried to stop them.

Being fair; there is no evidence that these people were white supremacists. They were just white. Their issue was with lockdown.

However the important point with the whole thing is: What do you think would have happened if 50 heavily armed black men had turned up at that same government building demanding to get inside. If you think it would be anything other than absolute carnage, you're not paying attention.

[Amy Jade]

Sadly "while running" it's harder to get such a required
shot out.

So why shoot 3 times?

[user104658]

So why shoot 3 times?

Hmm, yes. Arista points out it's harder to hit a moving target and yet he was hit three times... I wonder how many rounds were actually fired? Probably unloaded the whole clip.

[Tom4784]

Hmm, yes. Arista points out it's harder to hit a moving target and yet he was hit three times... I wonder how many rounds were actually fired? Probably unloaded the whole clip.

Unloading a whole clip in public.... They probably went to the same academy as those idiots that killed that delivery driver while trying to prevent his truck from being robbed.

[Denver]

Both cops will face charges after a new video emerged of him being kicked as he lay dying

One faces 11 charges including Felony murder which death penalty is the highest possible sentence and has no bond

The other faces 3 including aggravated assault and will testify against his partner

[arista]

Sad some Cops have walked off
the Job.

He is looking at Life in Jail
or the death sentence.