AS5 Episode 4, "SheMZ"

[Shaun]

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[Moniqua]

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yess, the edit really said icons only:cheer2: #TeamShea!

[Captain.Remy]

Kind of gutted for Mayhem but I saw it coming. I guess India having more fire in her saved her, and I don't think she did that bad tbh Next week she better deliver because she won't get another chance, and I found myself to really like her.

Cracker did a good job, so did Jujubee. I would have given the challenge win to Jujubee, and her runway was better than Cracker's anyway.

That was the weakest lipsync so far, not bad, not great. I guess it was a double win :shrug:

Runway looks: India had the best, followed by Shea and Alexis. Jujubee and Blair were fine. Cracker and Mayhem were basic af.

Snatch Game of Love next week, and someone is about to deliver a really strong performance! Can't wait!

[Smithy]

Omg Shaun about to flip his least fave sending his fave home :worry:


I thought the challenge was a bit meh and I was surprised Blair was safe considering she was overshadowed by BOTH Juju and Cracker. IMO based on the challenge the bottom two should have been Alexis and India, although that being said Mayhem had the worst runway by far

Don’t know why they’re doing Snatch Game of Love again, it wasn’t funny the first time round :bored:

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The challenge wasn't the best but I think Cracker rightfully deserved her win. I really enjoyed the lip sync, and I thought Shea deserved to be in the top rather than safe.

[Captain.Remy]

Omg Shaun about to flip his least fave sending his fave home :worry:


I thought the challenge was a bit meh and I was surprised Blair was safe considering she was overshadowed by BOTH Juju and Cracker. IMO based on the challenge the bottom two should have been Alexis and India, although that being said Mayhem had the worst runway by far

Don’t know why they’re doing Snatch Game of Love again, it wasn’t funny the first time round :bored:

Yep, I can't wait to read Shaun's review about this episode!

I wish Blair was in the bottom too, but yeah I somehow got the feeling from the beginning of the episode it was Mayhem's time. Which sucks because 1. He's so fine as a man and 2. Confessionnal queen.

Tbh the challenges so far are meh, or is it just me?

At this point I think it's rather obvious who the top 4 will be: Shea, Jujubee, Alexis and Cracker. I don't see India getting that further, and Blair will be eaten alive by the big personalities I think.

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[MB.]

Considering it's common knowledge at this point that production restarted this lip sync because Morgan was doing so much better than Cracker, I was a little surprised that her lip sync was... not that great

[Smithy]

Considering it's common knowledge at this point that production restarted this lip sync because Morgan was doing so much better than Cracker, I was a little surprised that her lip sync was... not that great

What :skull:

[MB.]

What :skull:

Yep!

[Captain.Remy]

Yeah I read that on Reddit too :skull: :skull:
Either it's hate towards Cracker, or it really happened. But apparently whoever said it is always right about spoilers and behind the scenes stuff, so I don't know what to think about it.

[Tom4784]

They really are doing the most to make Cracker look like a contender when it's just not happening. Imagine restarting the lipsync just for Cracker to underwhelm yet again. It shouldn't have been a double win, Morgan destroyed her.

[Liam-]

Cracker did that :love:

For all the hype that has always been around Mayhem, she came and underwhelmed twice and her attitude sucked.

The challenge wasn’t great, the office scenes cringed me out, but we discovered that Blair looks hot as a douchebag so hey.

[Daniel-X]

Is the sound cutting for anyone else trying to watch on Netflix? It keeps randomly cutting the audio every couple of seconds ffs

[Braden]

That challenge...hell to the bloody no :umm2:

[Liam-]

Also I really enjoyed Sara Hyland, it’s great to see a guest judge who’s actually interested for a change

[Amy Jade]

I don't get the vitriol for Cracker, she's not my favourite but the online comments are savage.

This episode was lame, the SheMZ idea was kinda cute but the scenes were so boring, the licker one was downright awful and I think Mayhem and India deserved bottom 2 for sure. Blair had a cute runway idea but should have been called out for the challenge, she was so background.

[Tom4784]

Cracker's riding on a wave of white privilege and she's desperately trying to write herself storylines that end up setting her rabid fans on other queens (usually of colour). She's repugnant.

[Black Dagger]

Shes revolting and so are her rabid dogs.

[Liam-]

I don't get the vitriol for Cracker, she's not my favourite but the online comments are savage.

This episode was lame, the SheMZ idea was kinda cute but the scenes were so boring, the licker one was downright awful and I think Mayhem and India deserved bottom 2 for sure. Blair had a cute runway idea but should have been called out for the challenge, she was so background.

Cause it’s cool to hate on the white queens apparently

[Braden]

Cracker's riding on a wave of white privilege and she's desperately trying to write herself storylines that end up setting her rabid fans on other queens (usually of colour). She's repugnant.

Wow, I have not heard such nonsense in this sub-forum in all my life.

[Black Dagger]

Cause it’s cool to hate on the white queens apparently

I mean the twinks hate on anybody that doesn't fit their mould every season x

[Tom4784]

Wow, I have not heard such nonsense in this sub-forum in all my life.

Cracker and her fans are toxic af, you'd have to be living under a rock not to know that.

[Braden]

I mean the twinks hate on anybody that doesn't fit their mould every season x

And vice versa.

[Liam-]

I mean the twinks hate on anybody that doesn't fit their mould every season x

And they’re mocked for their foolery

[Braden]

Cracker and her fans are toxic af, you'd have to be living under a rock not to know that.

You didn't put in such simple terms in your original post, though, did you?

[Tom4784]

You didn't put in such simple terms in your original post, though, did you?

No, I explained it better in my original post.

In her original season, Cracker created a stink out of the stock drama questions Ru asked Asia. Asia gets attacked by Cracker's fans, at the reunion (filmed after the show has aired) Cracker goes all in on Asia despite knowing what her fans are like. Fans tell Asia to burn to death.

Cracker comes to All Stars and is immediately hypocritical in her attitude towards Ongina since she's doing far worse than what Asia did to her. Alexis and others call her out on it, they get attacked and Cracker remains silent.

If Blair wasn't white, she would have likely got the same treatment at the hands of Cracker's fans.

She weaponises her toxic fanbase, she's gross.

[Liam-]

Or maybe she has disagreements with people and has no control over other people’s actions?

[Braden]

No, I explained it better in my original post.

In her original season, Cracker created a stink out of the stock drama questions Ru asked Asia. Asia gets attacked by Cracker's fans, at the reunion (filmed after the show has aired) Cracker goes all in on Asia despite knowing what her fans are like. Fans tell Asia to burn to death.

Cracker comes to All Stars and is immediately hypocritical in her attitude towards Ongina since she's doing far worse than what Asia did to her. Alexis and others call her out on it, they get attacked and Cracker remains silent.

If Blair wasn't white, she would have likely got the same treatment at the hands of Cracker's fans.

She weaponises her toxic fanbase, she's gross.

Oh dear, there's drama on Drag Race. Who would've thought it?

Cracker does not represent her fans and is not in control of what they say. To imply she has an agenda to set her fans on queens of colour is absurd considering who her drag mother is.

I have to admire the stretch of your imagination there, though.

[MB.]

Comments like "it's cool to hate the white queens apparently!" when Mayhem is receiving a death threat in her inbox everyday for existing as a black person on TV feel... insensitive to say the least

(also it's a coincidence that all the people who apparently love to jump on the white queen hate bandwagon are only directing it towards Cracker and not, say, Blair or India)

[Braden]

Honestly, the joke of me saying last week that people treat Miz Cracker like she's Osama Bin Laden and now has said to have set out a portion of her militant fan-base to terrorise people is MAD :joker:

[Liam-]

Comments like "it's cool to hate the white queens apparently!" when Mayhem is receiving a death threat in her inbox everyday for existing as a black person on TV feel... insensitive to say the least

(also it's a coincidence that all the people who apparently love to jump on the white queen hate bandwagon are only directing it towards Cracker and not, say, Blair or India)

And everyone will say that that’s reprehensible and shouldn’t be happening whatsoever, it’s disgusting, death threats and abuse aren’t exclusive to the black queens though.

That’s probably because they barely open their mouths, you can guarantee if they had a set to with a queen of colour they most definitely would be hounded like Cracker is

[Moniqua]

No, I explained it better in my original post.

In her original season, Cracker created a stink out of the stock drama questions Ru asked Asia. Asia gets attacked by Cracker's fans, at the reunion (filmed after the show has aired) Cracker goes all in on Asia despite knowing what her fans are like. Fans tell Asia to burn to death.

Cracker comes to All Stars and is immediately hypocritical in her attitude towards Ongina since she's doing far worse than what Asia did to her. Alexis and others call her out on it, they get attacked and Cracker remains silent.

If Blair wasn't white, she would have likely got the same treatment at the hands of Cracker's fans.

She weaponises her toxic fanbase, she's gross.

Comments like "it's cool to hate the white queens apparently!" when Mayhem is receiving a death threat in her inbox everyday for existing as a black person on TV feel... insensitive to say the least

(also it's a coincidence that all the people who apparently love to jump on the white queen hate bandwagon are only directing it towards Cracker and not, say, Blair or India)

thank you.

[Samm]

NOOOO! The PARTY AND THE DRAMA is gone </3 my first favourite to go this season. Either India turns it next week or she’s in danger girl.

I think Blair should of been in the bottom two tbh I think she performed the worst.

[Daniel-X]

I didn’t mind the challenge this week, but it was a little hard to follow and did seem to drag on for quite a while. Idk how Cracker won, she did well but Jujubee was the clear star of the week this week. Shea and Alexis did pretty good too. Mayhem didn’t deserve B2 though, I think it should’ve been India & Blair based off the performances.

Morgan won that lip sync, and not even marginally so :joker: (I’m not even saying this because I dislike Cracker, it’s just facts are facts America.) but they obviously want Cracker to make it far so have to have some justification I suppose.

Shea and Jujubee are carrying this season on their shoulders now, hopefully I think both will go far unless the queens pull some Naomi Smalls AS4 type ****.

I’m so sad that Mayhem has gone so soon :sad:, she’s crazy talented and such a sweetheart. Hopefully if we do get queens from other AS seasons returning one day, Mayhem will get another chance. I really didn’t think she deserved to go, much like her S10 elimination but I guess she voted for herself so had checked out already in her head.

I LOVED the runway too this week, only Mayhem was a miss for me.

Also side note: Shea looked so hot in her boy part in the SheMZ challenge omg! And Sarah Hyland was actually a great guest judge... whoever that may actually be!

[Shaun]

Omg Shaun about to flip his least fave sending his fave home :worry:

In what world have you drawn the conclusion that Mayhem was my favourite one, lmao

[Daniel-X]

In what world have you drawn the conclusion that Mayhem was my favourite one, lmao

Because she didn’t come to crash the party loov... she came to END it.

[MB.]

Excuse me sir, yeah I'm talking to you

[Smithy]

In what world have you drawn the conclusion that Mayhem was my favourite one, lmao

You hyped her up before S10 and said she should come back for AS AND she’s in your faves :hmph:

[Captain.Remy]

If Cracker sends home Shea then Shaun would flip for real this time :joker:

But for real, I smell a Manila moment coming and it's either Shea or Jujubee this time.

[Jigs]

Amazing episode for Cracker this week. I feel like Jujubee was a very, very close second but Cracker's camo look blew the others out of the water so I guess that's what secured her the win.

Didn't agree whatsoever with India's placement in the bottom two as I felt she delivered pretty well in the challenge over Alexis Mateo, who felt a bit scattered and lacking proper direction within her scene. Saying that, I think everyone performed well so it really was like splitting hairs.

Shame we had to lose the queen of the party this week. She was probably my least favourite remaining in the competition though so I can't be too mad! I just feel that she didn't show anything different to what we saw from her in S10 and I don't believe she would have shown any more. I'll forever be thankful to her for giving us the line "Bin Laden these eyes since the quarter of nine" though :love:

[Shaun]

You hyped her up before S10 and said she should come back for AS AND she’s in your faves :hmph:

Yes and she was 6th in my ranking of this season :oh: unless this went perfectly I was bound to "not be bothered" by her elimination next week :laugh:

She's always been filler material for the show because she doesn't adhere to the judges' forced humour and hasn't really got an overbearing personality that sees her last longer than she should (a la Vanjie, Silky, Vixen). And her S10 runways were excellent (still gagging over her ice queen look). This season... not so much :(

Haven't seen this episode yet, shall get around to it soon

[MB.]

Mayhem actually has a fairly decent showing this ep considering what her boot episode could have been (as a queen with her track record): she does pretty well in the challenge, gets in a righteous clapback to Michelle and leaves the competition on her own terms

[MB.]

She... also presents a look on the runway!

[Amy Jade]

Mayhem looked awful on the runway, that shít was basic.

[Samm]

Mayhem left the party so the party is ENDED, period poo

[Amy Jade]

I don't follow drag race twitter btw, I usually watch the episode and then have a quick look to see the reaction but this past two weeks it's been Cracker hate mostly.

Like I saw people saying Cracker deserved death and stuff for arguing with Alexis but I think they were both annoying so I cant work out why one is getting death threats.

I swear Drag Race was way more fun before it became more mainstream.

[Amy Jade]

I guess I just never saw the Mayhem hype. She was awful in the challenge and her runway was a slutty halloween costume and nothing more.

[Captain.Remy]

I swear Drag Race was way more fun before it became more mainstream.

Amen.

[Moniqua]

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[Saph]

meh.. none of the groups were amazing imo

Blair should've been bottom 2 though, her performance was dull and her runway was possibly one of the worse things ever to walk that runway

Alexis is a scream :skull: her listening to Cracker from across the room and chirping in nnn

I was sad to see Mariah go so early but she was fading into the background a little

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wait I watched both last weeks and this weeks together so im getting confused lol but Blairs tree outfit was the one I meant above.

meh to mayhem going, her even being there in the first place was questionable.

[Jigs]

Yeah Blair deserved bottom 2 and I also thought her look was jank

[Shaun]

Just watched it.

It was an odd episode, in that I felt that any of the challenge performances could've been edited as a winner. All of the 7 did pretty well with what they were given, and there was no hideous runway. India and Mayhem have said they felt like they might be the winners*, and in another light I can definitely see that happening; Mayhem had some great off-the-cuff moments and their licking obsession is usually the sort of daft gross-out humour the judges love.

I wonder with the recent riggery of AS3 and AS4, the queens feel less compelled to come into All Stars now and show their full range of effort and talent, for fear of being ousted as a threat a la Manila/Shangela? It just doesn't feel like Shea, Cracker or Jujubee are giving it 100%, in the lipsyncs or the performances. The tea about Cracker having to be asked to restart the lipsync and still only serving that is disappointing, because the queens who have nothing to fight for are giving pretty great performances thus far (except for Alyssa)

It would have been a fine challenge without the male versions of themselves in the press room. And also without Carson Kressley, because that **** is as funny as cancer.

Shea murdered the runway enough to deserve a "high" placing on that alone, and Alexis' critiques were confusing. She got praise but also criticism, so was she high or low? :unsure: because she shouldn't have been low. Cracker was a fair winner, but I only really laughed at the Lady Gaga 100 people in a room joke, and her runway just made me think "Aquaria would've worn it better". I don't know. I know I've shat on her a lot on here, but... aside from being a comedy queen that's not that funny, and a neurotic overthinker with an ego, I just don't see anything unique about her drag? Everything Cracker wears is just... :shrug: maybe because she's so tiny? Or because Raja and Raven planted a seed in my head with their comment (something along the lines of "she takes from every other queen and doesn't really stand out as original") on FPR? :shrug:

Anyway, two more bland judges cast entirely on their looks next week so I'm sure that'll be great (can you tell I am bored of this season?)

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[Captain.Remy]

I know I've shat on her a lot on here, but... aside from being a comedy queen that's not that funny, and a neurotic overthinker with an ego, I just don't see anything unique about her drag? Everything Cracker wears is just... :shrug: maybe because she's so tiny? Or because Raja and Raven planted a seed in my head with their comment (something along the lines of "she takes from every other queen and doesn't really stand out as original") on FPR? :shrug:[/spoiler]

Yeah her drag does nothing to me too. It's like...yeah she's here.
Raja and Raven were right tbh She isn't that original or new or fresh.