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arista
29-06-2020, 04:16 PM
during charity bike ride
The Metropolitan Police say the incident is
being investigated and that the
complaint is being taken seriously.]

https://news.sky.com/story/black-father-and-son-threatened-with-tasers-by-police-over-false-stabbing-suspicion-12017127


[Andrew Boateng and son Huugo were
out cycling along the River Lea in Tottenham,
north London, when the incident happened.
Mr Boateng told Sky News that his 13-year-old son
rode a few metres out in front of him
when a plain-clothed officer appeared out of nowhere
and grabbed him from his bike.

Startled and assuming he was being mugged,
the teenager leapt in fright before being tackled
to the ground - laying helpless as the officer pointed
a Taser at him, shouting and threatening to deploy it.]



That officer made a mistake
must have thought he was a Criminal


https://e3.365dm.com/20/06/768x432/skynews-andrew-boateng-huugo-boateng_5025229.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20200628222647
The Dad shouting at the officer,

Liam-
29-06-2020, 04:27 PM
Cycling while black

arista
29-06-2020, 05:15 PM
Cycling while black


On ITV1 London news
the Police say a Black Lad has stabbed someone
that's why the undercover cop
Grabbed the young kid , fast.

Liam-
29-06-2020, 05:19 PM
On ITV1 London news
the Police say a Black Lad has stabbed someone
that's why the undercover cop
Grabbed the young kid , fast.

A black person committing a crime doesn’t give the police the right to grab and threaten any black person they see

rusticgal
29-06-2020, 05:28 PM
A black person committing a crime doesn’t give the police the right to grab and threaten any black person they see


How do you know he has randomly grabbed him?....how do you know what may have been said?....we’re you there?

Liam-
29-06-2020, 05:30 PM
How do you know he has randomly grabbed him?....how do you know what may have been said?....we’re you there?

Andrew Boateng and son Huugo were
out cycling along the River Lea in Tottenham,
north London, when the incident happened.
Mr Boateng told Sky News that his 13-year-old son
rode a few metres out in front of him
when a plain-clothed officer appeared out of nowhere
and grabbed him from his bike.

Startled and assuming he was being mugged,
the teenager leapt in fright before being tackled
to the ground - laying helpless as the officer pointed
a Taser at him, shouting and threatening to deploy it.

rusticgal
29-06-2020, 05:44 PM
Andrew Boateng and son Huugo were
out cycling along the River Lea in Tottenham,
north London, when the incident happened.
Mr Boateng told Sky News that his 13-year-old son
rode a few metres out in front of him
when a plain-clothed officer appeared out of nowhere
and grabbed him from his bike.

Startled and assuming he was being mugged,
the teenager leapt in fright before being tackled
to the ground - laying helpless as the officer pointed
a Taser at him, shouting and threatening to deploy it.


So you think the officer was just hiding in the bushes waiting for a young 13 year old boy riding a bike to jump out on....or do you think the officer may have had a description of someone on a bike having committed a crime and possibly armed...
Of course it’s unfortunate for the young boy as he was innocent but the police have a tough job, particularly in London.

Liam-
29-06-2020, 05:50 PM
So you think the officer was just hiding in the bushes waiting for a young 13 year old boy riding a bike to jump out on....or do you think the officer may have had a description of someone on a bike having committed a crime and possibly armed...
Of course it’s unfortunate for the young boy as he was innocent but the police have a tough job, particularly in London.

I think what happened is what happens way too much, an officer has been told a black person has done something wrong, so they assume the guilt of every black person they see that comes somewhat close to a description, until they find the right one, it’s not hard to not pull children off their bikes and threaten to taser them

rusticgal
29-06-2020, 05:54 PM
I think what happened is what happens way too much, an officer has been told a black person has done something wrong, so they assume the guilt of every black person they see that comes somewhat close to a description, until they find the right one, it’s not hard to not pull children off their bikes and threaten to taser them


So this something wrong... is this the stabbing that’s been mentioned?

rusticgal
29-06-2020, 06:05 PM
So this something wrong... is this the stabbing that’s been mentioned?



.....hmmm probably. Let me tell you if you and your partner/child were in the vicinity and an officer apprehended someone in front of you that COULD have had a knife and stabbed you or those dearest to you....I bet you wouldn’t mind the unfortunate misidentification.The police are trying to do a difficult job...they are trying to protect the innocent public against a lot of knife crime in the city.

arista
29-06-2020, 06:08 PM
A black person committing a crime doesn’t give the police the right to grab and threaten any black person they see


Yes that why his Dad got so Angry
they even cuffed the Dad

Cherie
29-06-2020, 06:13 PM
The only info they had from the stabbed victim was that it was an IC male on a bike, so they didn't have a lot to go on, obviously it sucks but if they let them go and they were the assailants then they would also be in the doggy do do...so its not easy to walk the right line in these situations, and its easy for us standing by to judge what should be done

GiRTh
29-06-2020, 06:26 PM
The only info they had from the stabbed victim was that it was an IC male on a bike, so they didn't have a lot to go on, obviously it sucks but if they let them go and they were the assailants then they would also be in the doggy do do...so its not easy to walk the right line in these situations, and its easy for us standing by to judge what should be doneInteresting take. You mention they had little to go on. So, we assume if they had a description of a IC1 would they grab the nearest White guy, and say 'Well we didn’t have much to go on’? I would hope their policing was a bit more structured but if you think this excuses a Dad and Son being stopped and tazered then thats OK.

rusticgal
29-06-2020, 06:47 PM
Interesting take. You mention they had little to go on. So, we assume if they had a description of a IC1 would they grab the nearest White guy, and say 'Well we didn’t have much to go on’? I would hope their policing was a bit more structured but if you think this excuses a Dad and Son being stopped and tazered then thats OK.


Were they tasered?....or just threatened with a taser?

Kizzy
29-06-2020, 06:56 PM
isnt it odd how some are totally ok with living in a police state?....
Where you can be grabbed and forcibly detained and threatened with violence without question?
Where are civil liberties?... dont they exist anymore? :/

Ammi
29-06-2020, 07:07 PM
...poor child...

“The 13-year-old told the Observer: “I’d turned around to see if my dad had caught up behind me, and suddenly this man came out of nowhere. He was crazy angry and shouting. I got scared because I thought he might be mugging me or trying to give me corona so I ran, but there was nowhere to go but in the bushes.”


“The Boatengs, who live in Tottenham, say they were shocked and humiliated by the experience. Huugo suffered lacerations to his face and bruises on his legs, and spent that night sleeping on his parents’ bedroom floor, anxious not to be alone.“

Cherie
29-06-2020, 07:10 PM
Interesting take. You mention they had little to go on. So, we assume if they had a description of a IC1 would they grab the nearest White guy, and say 'Well we didn’t have much to go on’? I would hope their policing was a bit more structured but if you think this excuses a Dad and Son being stopped and tazered then thats OK.

Its not a take I am relaying what was reported on TV, maybe IC is incorrect as they said the description they had was that the attacker was a black person on a bike, neither were tasered either? so not sure where you got that from

Cherie
29-06-2020, 07:10 PM
Were they tasered?....or just threatened with a taser?

No they weren't tasered

Liam-
29-06-2020, 07:11 PM
Their job is so hard, how are they supposed to do their job if they’re not allowed to assault and threaten children because they happen to be black, poor souls :(

GiRTh
29-06-2020, 07:15 PM
Its not a take I am relaying what was reported on TV, maybe IC is incorrect as they said the description they had was that the attacker was a black person on a bike, neither were tasered either? so not sure where you got that fromSo, the fact they were only threatened makes it better? :laugh:

Can I ask, has your son and his Dad ever been threatened with tazers? Just out of curiosity. Imagine how traumatic that would be for any 13 year old but they were only threatened so :shrug:

Cherie
29-06-2020, 07:17 PM
So, the fact they were only threatened makes it better? :laugh:

Can I ask, has your son and his Dad ever been threatened with tazers? Just out of curiosity. Imagine how traumatic that would be for any 13 year old but they were only threatened so :shrug:

I already said is sucked..? of course it was traumatic, it was also traumatic for the stabbed victim, I guess it would be nice for him to know his attacker had been caught as well

Liam-
29-06-2020, 07:18 PM
I already said is sucked..? of course it was traumatic, it was also traumatic for the stabbed victim, I guess it would be nice for him to know his attacker had been caught as well

But they haven’t been caught.. all this cop did was assault and traumatise an innocent child because he’s black

GiRTh
29-06-2020, 07:19 PM
I already said is sucked..? of course it was traumatic, it was also traumatic for the stabbed victim, I guess it would be nice for him to know his attacker had been caught as wellEven more laughable trying to pivot to the stabbed victim. You forget - THEY HAD THE WRONG GUY.

Kizzy
29-06-2020, 08:11 PM
Oh please... dont you know its ok to assault and traumatise black kids if someone was stabbed!?

Who has time for actual investigations and police work?, just snatch up a bunch of black lads and hope for the best.

Tom4784
29-06-2020, 08:31 PM
This father and son are victims, why are some people in this topic doing everything they can to avoid saying it?

They were attacked by the police because they were black, it's pretty undeniable. They were looking for a black suspect and decided any old black person would do.

Going on about the stabbing victim isn't going to change or lessen the fact that these two people were victims of police brutality. Saying 'it sucks for them' is dismissive and it's downplaying the facts.

rusticgal
29-06-2020, 10:48 PM
So, the fact they were only threatened makes it better? :laugh:

Can I ask, has your son and his Dad ever been threatened with tazers? Just out of curiosity. Imagine how traumatic that would be for any 13 year old but they were only threatened so :shrug:



There is no where Cherie said it made it better....no one has said on here that it was ok what happened to this poor lad and his father. Twisting words and putting words into people’s mouths doesn’t help a discussion, neither does stating things that are not true.. YOU said they were tasered...they were not...so you lied.

GiRTh
29-06-2020, 11:02 PM
There is no where Cherie said it made it better....no one has said on here that it was ok what happened to this poor lad and his father. Twisting words and putting words into people’s mouths doesn’t help a discussion, neither does stating things that are not true.. YOU said they were tasered...they were not...so you lied.I lied? A bit of an exaggeration. How quickly we want to change the discussion. I agree my first post was not accurate, now back to the issue.
You said

How do you know he has randomly grabbed him?

Clearly, he did, so do you think thats good policing?

GoldHeart
29-06-2020, 11:49 PM
What the hell is going on !

Also why were the police in PLAIN clothes :oh::suspect: , clearly the father & son thought they were being attacked.

Looks like the UK is turning into America

arista
30-06-2020, 12:08 AM
What the hell is going on !

Also why were the police in PLAIN clothes :oh::suspect: , clearly the father & son thought they were being attacked.

Looks like the UK is turning into America


His Son Cycled ahead a bit from his Dad
that Copper had info of a young black knife lad
it is a simple mistake.


They must apologise to the Dad and Son
also do more in some way.

rusticgal
30-06-2020, 12:10 AM
What the hell is going on !

Also why were the police in PLAIN clothes :oh::suspect: , clearly the father & son thought they were being attacked.

Looks like the UK is turning into America


Well clearly the father and son thought they were being attacked...how scary and traumatic that must have been for them. No one is questioning that.
I don’t know what world you have been living in...but surely you have heard of officers in PLAIN clothing...just like unmarked police cars :shrug:...the element of surprise and undercover :shrug:
....and no the UK is not turning into America but that’s what some would like to make out...:nono:

arista
30-06-2020, 12:13 AM
Interesting take. You mention they had little to go on. So, we assume if they had a description of a IC1 would they grab the nearest White guy, and say 'Well we didn’t have much to go on’? I would hope their policing was a bit more structured but if you think this excuses a Dad and Son being stopped and tazered then thats OK.


That IC1
is a code for Young Black Man criminal
they said on ITV1 London news
(but,infact , it is IC3 for black people)



Its a Big Error
they must say Sorry to both of them
and do much more.

rusticgal
30-06-2020, 12:16 AM
His Son Cycled ahead a bit from his Dad
that Copper had info of a young black knife lad
it is a simple mistake.


They must apologise to the Dad and Son
also do more in some way.


Well they have and it’s being investigated...as a result they are instigating new training techniques. This was an unfortunate mistake...it will have happened many times before and will no doubt happen again...not just to black people either. Sadly crimes like this involve young people and they get younger and younger. The police do their best...but sometimes get it wrong. Fortunately no one died because the victim that was stabbed is still alive.

armand.kay
30-06-2020, 12:17 AM
It’s so funny to me how many hoops people are willing to jim through to defend a 13 year old kid being ripped from his bike and his father threatened with a taser. Like this is really the hill you’re gonna die on??

rusticgal
30-06-2020, 12:20 AM
It’s so funny to me how many hoops people are willing to jim through to defend a 13 year old kid being ripped from his bike and his father threatened with a taser. Like this is really the hill you’re gonna die on??


...no it’s called seeing the other side of the coin and those that like to see the other side of the coin have sympathised with the young lad and his dad.

Tom4784
30-06-2020, 01:59 AM
...no it’s called seeing the other side of the coin and those that like to see the other side of the coin have sympathised with the young lad and his dad.

It's called jumping through hoops to protect the police officers that have racially profiled and committed brutality against two innocent people, one of them a child.

There's no debate here, there's no 'other side'. The police officers attacked, didn't make themselves known and then apprehended and threatened a father and his child on account of their skin colour. That is the long and short of it.

GoldHeart
30-06-2020, 03:00 AM
Well clearly the father and son thought they were being attacked...how scary and traumatic that must have been for them. No one is questioning that.
I don’t know what world you have been living in...but surely you have heard of officers in PLAIN clothing...just like unmarked police cars :shrug:...the element of surprise and undercover :shrug:
....and no the UK is not turning into America but that’s what some would like to make out...:nono:

I'm not stupid i know plain clothed and undercover cops etc are around , but whole thing sounds weird to me how they would jump father and son who are cycling minding their own business . They scared them without letting themselves be known they're cops.

Yes i will say it's turning like America , the boy is 13 years old ! like seriously what the hell :facepalm: . i'm just glad we're not gun crazy here in the UK so yeah that's the difference between the UK and America .

Ammi
30-06-2020, 04:54 AM
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...it’s really upsetting to think about the terror this young boy and his father went through and it’s not something that will just be ‘moved on from..’...it will be very far reaching because of the trauma of the experience...and atm, all that’s being said is that they matched the description of ‘two black males’...it’s racial profiling at its worst...:sad:...

Cherie
30-06-2020, 05:40 AM
That IC1
is a code for Young Black Man criminal
they said on ITV1 London news
(but,infact , it is IC3 for black people)



Its a Big Error
they must say Sorry to both of them
and do much more.

Oh thanks Arista, I thought that is what they said, and at the time I did think it sounded wrong, but you expect these news channels to get their facts right

Mystic Mock
30-06-2020, 10:34 AM
...poor child...

“The 13-year-old told the Observer: “I’d turned around to see if my dad had caught up behind me, and suddenly this man came out of nowhere. He was crazy angry and shouting. I got scared because I thought he might be mugging me or trying to give me corona so I ran, but there was nowhere to go but in the bushes.”


“The Boatengs, who live in Tottenham, say they were shocked and humiliated by the experience. Huugo suffered lacerations to his face and bruises on his legs, and spent that night sleeping on his parents’ bedroom floor, anxious not to be alone.“

Poor bastard.

I couldn't imagine how terrifying it must've been for the kid, and I never want to find out.

But tbf to The Police I do feel mixed on their response here as yes they can't just be taking people off their bikes aggressively (especially a child in this case) but if the kid did match the description of the assailant then I can understand the response even if I don't agree with it. After all if the kid had've turned out to have been the culprit then we'd all be congratulating The Police on stopping a criminal in his tracks.

Mystic Mock
30-06-2020, 10:40 AM
Interesting take. You mention they had little to go on. So, we assume if they had a description of a IC1 would they grab the nearest White guy, and say 'Well we didn’t have much to go on’? I would hope their policing was a bit more structured but if you think this excuses a Dad and Son being stopped and tazered then thats OK.

I do agree with what you're saying.

Tbh there needs to be some form of communication between The Police and The Black Community in the US & UK about why The Police are so much more aggressive towards black people on average than they are to any other type of group? Like why are they so much more terrified of a black person than they are an Asian person for example? Once we can get to the bottom of that then we might finally start to see progress between the two sides as it's clearly more complex than "The Police are racist."

rusticgal
30-06-2020, 03:39 PM
Poor bastard.

I couldn't imagine how terrifying it must've been for the kid, and I never want to find out.

But tbf to The Police I do feel mixed on their response here as yes they can't just be taking people off their bikes aggressively (especially a child in this case) but if the kid did match the description of the assailant then I can understand the response even if I don't agree with it. After all if the kid had've turned out to have been the culprit then we'd all be congratulating The Police on stopping a criminal in his tracks.


Exactly...well said MM

Liam-
30-06-2020, 03:40 PM
But they haven’t caught the criminal, all they’ve done is assault and threaten a child and his father because they were black, there’s no two sides to this

rusticgal
30-06-2020, 03:48 PM
I'm not stupid i know plain clothed and undercover cops etc are around , but whole thing sounds weird to me how they would jump father and son who are cycling minding their own business . They scared them without letting themselves be known they're cops.

Yes i will say it's turning like America , the boy is 13 years old ! like seriously what the hell :facepalm: . i'm just glad we're not gun crazy here in the UK so yeah that's the difference between the UK and America .


The boy is 13 years old....are you not aware of how many young boys are getting involved in knife crime. Look at the age that some of these young boys are getting stabbed and shot...usually gang and drug related. Its frightening.

rusticgal
30-06-2020, 05:58 PM
It's called jumping through hoops to protect the police officers that have racially profiled and committed brutality against two innocent people, one of them a child.

There's no debate here, there's no 'other side'. The police officers attacked, didn't make themselves known and then apprehended and threatened a father and his child on account of their skin colour. That is the long and short of it.


There is debate...there is always another view to any situation. Instead you just want to call out the police as being racist thugs. The boy fitted the description it was very unfortunate...it was a mistake. That’s the long and short of it...

Tom4784
30-06-2020, 06:36 PM
There is debate...there is always another view to any situation. Instead you just want to call out the police as being racist thugs. The boy fitted the description it was very unfortunate...it was a mistake. That’s the long and short of it...

The boy was black and that was it. Would they have randomly attacked a white parent and their child if there was a white suspect in the area? No, they wouldn't.

These police officers were racist thugs, incompetent to boot. They attacked the first black people they saw, they didn't announce themselves and then they threatened to taze a child, all while these innocent people thought they were about to be mugged.

Ask yourself why you are jumping through hoops to defend the police in a clear cut case of brutality.

Tom4784
30-06-2020, 06:37 PM
The boy is 13 years old....are you not aware of how many young boys are getting involved in knife crime. Look at the age that some of these young boys are getting stabbed and shot...usually gang and drug related. Its frightening.

Ah, so the black thirteen year old deserves to be attacked and threatened because he might be out gangbanging while on a bike ride with his dad...

Crimson Dynamo
30-06-2020, 07:35 PM
Just a mistake. The police have a hard enough job.

Liam-
30-06-2020, 07:49 PM
If they can’t do their job without assaulting, threatening and traumatising a child, then they shouldn’t have a badge

Mystic Mock
01-07-2020, 12:04 AM
But they haven’t caught the criminal, all they’ve done is assault and threaten a child and his father because they were black, there’s no two sides to this

I do wonder why The Police went for a 13 year old?

arista
01-07-2020, 12:22 AM
I do wonder why The Police went for a 13 year old?


That's simple he was going Fast on his bike
ahead of his dad.


The Undercover cop assumed
it was the lad with a knife.

The Police owe that lad and dad
money. The only way to get it off the news

arista
01-07-2020, 12:30 AM
The boy was black and that was it. Would they have randomly attacked a white parent and their child if there was a white suspect in the area? No, they wouldn't.

These police officers were racist thugs, incompetent to boot. They attacked the first black people they saw, they didn't announce themselves and then they threatened to taze a child, all while these innocent people thought they were about to be mugged.

Ask yourself why you are jumping through hoops to defend the police in a clear cut case of brutality.


Utter Bollocks
the undercover cop
had info on a Black youth with a knife.

He was Fast to grab him at speed
from behind a tree
it's a shock for the innocent black lad,
and also a shock for the dad.

Tom4784
01-07-2020, 02:30 AM
Utter Bollocks
the undercover cop
had info on a Black youth with a knife.

He was Fast to grab him at speed
from behind a tree
it's a shock for the innocent black lad,
and also a shock for the dad.

He attacked a father and their son because they were black.

arista
01-07-2020, 02:52 AM
He attacked a father and their son because they were black.


He did not attack the dad
he pulled the lad off the bike fast.
Because he had info a black youth with knife.

Making a big error.


I am talking about the Undercover cop, only.

Not the Police in Uniform.

Mystic Mock
01-07-2020, 04:58 AM
That's simple he was going Fast on his bike
ahead of his dad.


The Undercover cop assumed
it was the lad with a knife.

The Police owe that lad and dad
money. The only way to get it off the news

But how did they not see that his Dad was following him?:laugh:

That's what I don't understand in this situation if The Police were acting on what was being described to them and not racism.

arista
01-07-2020, 05:49 AM
But how did they not see that his Dad was following him?:laugh:

That's what I don't understand in this situation if The Police were acting on what was being described to them and not racism.


He was peddling slower

Ammi
01-07-2020, 06:58 AM
But they haven’t caught the criminal, all they’ve done is assault and threaten a child and his father because they were black, there’s no two sides to this

....I think that even if I were the parent of the person who was stabbed, I don’t think this would be something that should in any way be accepted and I would find it very upsetting...to cause such trauma on a child and on a family would only make the whole thing worse...and obviously I wouldn’t accept it if it was my partner and child cycling along the river and this happened...I can’t imagine how many cyclists there are in that type of surrounding in daylight hours...it wouldn’t be an ‘unusual sight’ to see a young cyclist ...so what happened cannot be felt acceptable without very specific reasoning beyond ‘a young black lad on a bike’...and atm it’s very difficult to see what that specific reasoning would be when it’s also being said that there was speed involved because it was a cycling event...this is why BLM is so important because none of us should accept a family having to experience something so terrifying when the only reasoning appears to be that they were cyclists and cycling in an area where cyclists will be a common sight...

rusticgal
01-07-2020, 09:10 AM
....I think that even if I were the parent of the person who was stabbed, I don’t think this would be something that should in any way be accepted and I would find it very upsetting...to cause such trauma on a child and on a family would only make the whole thing worse...and obviously I wouldn’t accept it if it was my partner and child cycling along the river and this happened...I can’t imagine how many cyclists there are in that type of surrounding in daylight hours...it wouldn’t be an ‘unusual sight’ to see a young cyclist ...so what happened cannot be felt acceptable without very specific reasoning beyond ‘a young black lad on a bike’...and atm it’s very difficult to see what that specific reasoning would be when it’s also being said that there was speed involved because it was a cycling event...this is why BLM is so important because none of us should accept a family having to experience something so terrifying when the only reasoning appears to be that they were cyclists and cycling in an area where cyclists will be a common sight...



The biggest tragedy is that someone was STABBED...seems to be completely igniored on here. God forbid the police trying to apprehend someone who answers the description of the attacker and trying to prevent someone else getting stabbed.

rusticgal
01-07-2020, 09:11 AM
He attacked a father and their son because they were black.


No they didnt...

rusticgal
01-07-2020, 09:17 AM
That's simple he was going Fast on his bike
ahead of his dad.


The Undercover cop assumed
it was the lad with a knife.

The Police owe that lad and dad
money. The only way to get it off the news


Im sure they will be compensated for their trauma. The poor victim that was stabbed wont be though.
You are batting your head against a brick wall Arista....some people will just want to see it as a racist attack with no sense of reason. im done :laugh:

Ammi
01-07-2020, 10:26 AM
The biggest tragedy is that someone was STABBED...seems to be completely igniored on here. God forbid the police trying to apprehend someone who answers the description of the attacker and trying to prevent someone else getting stabbed.

...that’s the thing though, Rusti...’answering the description of...’...was not something that was paid specific detail to and attention to because this child was not the person who committed the crime...and all he was doing was cycling in an area along a river, which would be a common cycling area I would say...it’s also being ignored, if you like...that with such an aggressive arrest of pulling a child from his cycle and threatening to taser him../...handcuffing both him and his parent...that ‘description of the attacker..’...should be fairly sound and it doesn’t appear to have because it was the wrong people...

Liam-
01-07-2020, 10:28 AM
No they didnt...

They literally did

Liam-
01-07-2020, 10:32 AM
Im sure they will be compensated for their trauma. The poor victim that was stabbed wont be though.
You are batting your head against a brick wall Arista....some people will just want to see it as a racist attack with no sense of reason. im done :laugh:

And you can’t get past how police have a tough job so should be allowed to assault innocent black children on a whim

Tom4784
01-07-2020, 01:17 PM
No they didnt...

Yes they did, stop defending racism.

Tom4784
01-07-2020, 01:20 PM
He did not attack the dad
he pulled the lad off the bike fast.
Because he had info a black youth with knife.

Making a big error.


I am talking about the Undercover cop, only.

Not the Police in Uniform.

Choosing to pull a child off a bike and threatening them with a taser isn't a mistake, it's dangerous incompetence, racial profiling and racist attitudes. They were after a black suspect and decided any black person would do.

It's an open and shut case, racist attitudes and incompetence led to these officers threatening to harm a child for riding a bike. No one can defend this and they shouldn't.

Racism shouldn't be tolerated, least of all in the police force.

arista
01-07-2020, 01:25 PM
Choosing to pull a child off a bike and threatening them with a taser isn't a mistake, it's dangerous incompetence, racial profiling and racist attitudes. They were after a black suspect and decided any black person would do.

It's an open and shut case, racist attitudes and incompetence led to these officers threatening to harm a child for riding a bike. No one can defend this and they shouldn't.

Racism shouldn't be tolerated, least of all in the police force.

Again that Undercover Cop had info on a Black
lad who had a knife.
He made a mistake, it was not that lad.

Tom4784
01-07-2020, 01:41 PM
Again that Undercover Cop had info on a Black
lad who had a knife.
He made a mistake, it was not that lad.

They chose to throw a child off a bike and then threaten him with a taser all while not announcing who they were leading the pair to think they were being mugged.

They were looking for a black suspect and they went for an innocent black child when they could have just taken a moment to assess the situation and know that he wasn't who they were looking for.

Going on about why they did it won't change the fact that they did it, they victimised a child and the reason why they did it doesn't justify their actions or the fact that it was the result of racism.

arista
01-07-2020, 03:08 PM
Yes Dezzy he got the Wrong Lad

Beso
01-07-2020, 03:33 PM
Only people to blame for this happening is knife wielding youths.

Crimson Dynamo
01-07-2020, 04:26 PM
Only people to blame for this happening is knife wielding youths.

Yes they must take full responsibility.

I hope that father makes this clear to the son as well.

rusticgal
01-07-2020, 05:05 PM
And you can’t get past how police have a tough job so should be allowed to assault innocent black children on a whim


...on a whim :laugh:....grow up.

rusticgal
01-07-2020, 05:07 PM
Yes they did, stop defending racism.


Defending the police is not defending racism...but if you want to think it’s racism on this occasion just carry on.

Liam-
01-07-2020, 05:08 PM
...on a whim :laugh:....grow up.

Yes on a whim, at worst it’s racism, at best it’s lazy policing, assaulting and traumatising a child because he’s black can’t be defended

Tom4784
01-07-2020, 08:59 PM
Defending the police is not defending racism...but if you want to think it’s racism on this occasion just carry on.

You are defending the racist actions of these police officers. It's pretty open and shut that this is a case of racial profiling and incompetence and you are choosing to defend both.

Kizzy
02-07-2020, 01:05 AM
Young people under 18 and vulnerable adults

The police must try to contact your parent, guardian or carer if you’re under 18 or a vulnerable adult.

They must also find an ‘appropriate adult’ to come to the station to help you and be present during questioning and searching. An appropriate adult can be:

your parent, guardian or carera social workeranother family member or friend aged 18 or overa volunteer aged 18 or over

The*National Appropriate Adult Networkprovides appropriate adult services in England and Wales.

Your rights when being questioned

The police may question you about the crime you’re suspected of - this will be recorded. You don’t have to answer the questions but there could be consequences if you don’t. The police must explain this to you by reading you the police caution:

“You do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”

https://www.gov.uk/arrested-your-rights