Ghislane Maxwell arrested by fbi

[Beso]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/02/ghislaine-maxwell-arrest-jeffrey-epstein-charges-latest-fbi

[Nicky91]

United States Department of Justice charged Maxwell with enticement of minors, sex trafficking and perjury

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein/index.html

[bots]

i thought she may have taken a header off a boat like her Dad

[arista]

She will be going to Jail.
Unless she does what her boss did?

[Niamh.]

She will be going to Jail.
Unless she does what her boss did?Did he though. . .

[Toy Soldier]

Wonder how long it'll be until she "commits suicide in her cell" :idc:.

[rusticgal]

She wont see the light of day...evil woman, she deserves all she gets.

[Toy Soldier]

She wont see the light of day...evil woman, she deserves all she gets.

I don't disagree but I'd rather she take a deal that sells out the multitude of high-profile monsters they were pimping out kids to, even if it means her getting a shorter sentence. And I hope she gets to name some names and give some evidence before someone pays for her to have an "accident" in her cell.

[rusticgal]

I don't disagree but I'd rather she take a deal that sells out the multitude of high-profile monsters they were pimping out kids to, even if it means her getting a shorter sentence. And I hope she gets to name some names and give some evidence before someone pays for her to have an "accident" in her cell.


I said that on the other thread....I bet Prince Andrews sweating amongst others.

[Ammi]

Wonder how long it'll be until she "commits suicide in her cell" :idc:.

...surely that would create too much doubt if the same thing were to happen again...

[Niamh.]

I said that on the other thread....I bet Prince Andrews sweating amongst others.He doesn't sweat though :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Waste of police time tbh

[Kizzy]

Waste of police time tbh

But she's a purp... you hate purps!

[Tom4784]

Yeah, she'll be dead in days.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But she's a purp... you hate purps!

Incorrect. She has been charged

[Beso]

He doesn't sweat though :hehe:

And mods dont change thread titles without having the common decency to explain why.:smug:

[rusticgal]

He doesn't sweat though :hehe:


...didn’t he say “at that time in his life he didn’t” due to the trauma from the Gulf war?....but he does now.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Kizzy]

Incorrect. She has been charged

Does that make her less of a purp?

[arista]

Yeah, she'll be dead in days.


They will have her
watched more.

[bots]

Interestingly Barr tried to visit her yesterday in prison and her lawyer told him to **** off

[Niamh.]

And mods dont change thread titles without having the common decency to explain why.:smug:It was explained in the edit reason

[Beso]

It was explained in the edit reason

Where can I find that?

[Niamh.]

Where can I find that?

At the bottom of your original post in the thread

[Mystic Mock]

I don't disagree but I'd rather she take a deal that sells out the multitude of high-profile monsters they were pimping out kids to, even if it means her getting a shorter sentence. And I hope she gets to name some names and give some evidence before someone pays for her to have an "accident" in her cell.

This.

[Niamh.]

I don't disagree but I'd rather she take a deal that sells out the multitude of high-profile monsters they were pimping out kids to, even if it means her getting a shorter sentence. And I hope she gets to name some names and give some evidence before someone pays for her to have an "accident" in her cell.

Yup totally agree, I just cannot see that happening though unfortunately

[Cherie]

It's an odd one, you would have thought she would have been found already and murdered if she has big secrets to tell, interesting to see how this one unfolds, she will probably cite mitigating factors and that she was a much a victim as the others :skull:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/03/03/30331450-8485083-Ghislaine_Maxwell_in_an_early_1990_s_photoshoot_Sh e_appeared_in_-a-19_1593742671768.jpg
Ghislaine Maxwell, in an early 1990's photoshoot.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/03/01/30331480-8485083-Ghislaine_Maxwell_with_her_parents_Robert_Maxwell_ and_Elizabeth_-a-47_1593736849339.jpg
Back in 1987 with her parents

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/03/09/30318806-8485083-Maxwell_has_an_astonishing_network_of_high_profile _friends_and_a-a-2_1593766439165.jpg
2010

[bots]

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2020/07/GettyImages-1192977790.jpg?resize=1200,630&quality=65

[Tom4784]

She'll be dead soon enough if there's any chance of her talking, sadly. If she lives, it'll likely be because she'll stay silent and serve a long sentence.

[Niamh.]

Tributes have been paid to former British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, who died next Monday, while in the custody of the FBI in Murica.

Ms Maxwell was an alleged confidante to former financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was arrested last year on sex trafficking charges.

Epstein committed suicide in prison, allegedly kicking himself to death, while under 24/7 watch.

Mr Epstein had links to high profile powerful people, with suggestions that he might have provided underage girls for their sexual gratification.

Prison authorities told us that those links had nothing to do with Mr Epstein topping himself, in a deranged attack of self harm that continued for an alleged 5 hours, before he succumbed to his injuries.

Guards, tasked with his security were reported as gone for a pee or something, so they saw nothing.

Following Epstein popping his clogs, Ms Maxwell disappeared from public, until this morning, when she was arrested, in New Hampshire somewhere in Murica.

A spokesperson for the prison service told us that he's "danged if I know how Ms Maxwell died" but told us that "this **** can happen".

In a statement, the authorities confirmed that a British national passed away, on Monday next while in prison custody, but they cannot give any further details.

In Britain, government sources spoke of their surprise at the news, while a spokesperson for the Royal family spoke of huge relief, sorry sadness at the news.

"Okay Ted, that's enough on this one, in case any of us go ****ing missing as well" - Ed.

Www.ivorytowersnews.com

Pic from the interweb: Ghislaine Maxwell, before she died next week.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Media-News-Company/Ivory-Towers-News-703667136507017/

[Smithy]

Tributes have been paid to former British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, who died next Monday, while in the custody of the FBI in Murica.

Ms Maxwell was an alleged confidante to former financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was arrested last year on sex trafficking charges.

Epstein committed suicide in prison, allegedly kicking himself to death, while under 24/7 watch.

Mr Epstein had links to high profile powerful people, with suggestions that he might have provided underage girls for their sexual gratification.

Prison authorities told us that those links had nothing to do with Mr Epstein topping himself, in a deranged attack of self harm that continued for an alleged 5 hours, before he succumbed to his injuries.

Guards, tasked with his security were reported as gone for a pee or something, so they saw nothing.

Following Epstein popping his clogs, Ms Maxwell disappeared from public, until this morning, when she was arrested, in New Hampshire somewhere in Murica.

A spokesperson for the prison service told us that he's "danged if I know how Ms Maxwell died" but told us that "this **** can happen".

In a statement, the authorities confirmed that a British national passed away, on Monday next while in prison custody, but they cannot give any further details.

In Britain, government sources spoke of their surprise at the news, while a spokesperson for the Royal family spoke of huge relief, sorry sadness at the news.

"Okay Ted, that's enough on this one, in case any of us go ****ing missing as well" - Ed.

Www.ivorytowersnews.com

Pic from the interweb: Ghislaine Maxwell, before she died next week.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Media-News-Company/Ivory-Towers-News-703667136507017/

Fffff I thought this was legit for a second :joker:

[Niamh.]

Fffff I thought this was legit for a second :joker:

:hehe:

[Beso]

Ellen DeGeneres is sweating.

[Ammi]

...the things she must know, I hope she reveals all who have been involved in child sex abuse ...but I hope she also doesn’t get a reduced sentence for doing so, she’s a very evil person...

[Niamh.]

...the things she must know, I hope she reveals all who have been involved in child sex abuse ...but I hope she also doesn’t get a reduced sentence for doing so, she’s a very evil person...

She won't reveal anything unless she's getting a deal unfortunately. I just can't see big players being caught though (as much as i hope that happens)

[Ammi]

...she may have felt some kind of loyalty toward Epstein but will she toward others who may have involvement..?...it’ll be interesting, won’t it...I just hope that whatever ensues, she spends the rest of her life in prison...(...and not in the way that Epstein did when he went to prison and seemed to come and go as he pleased..)...

[Niamh.]

...she may have felt some kind of loyalty toward Epstein but will she toward others who may have involvement..?...it’ll be interesting, won’t it...I just hope that whatever ensues, she spends the rest of her life in prison...(...and not in the way that Epstein did when he went to prison and seemed to come and go as he pleased..)...

Wasn't that crazy? It was like when pablo Escabar agreed to go to prison and built the prison himself :/ Isn't scary though how much you truly can get away with if you have a bit of money and know a few powerful people

[Ammi]

Wasn't that crazy? It was like when pablo Escabar agreed to go to prison and built the prison himself :/ Isn't scary though how much you truly can get away with if you have a bit of money and know a few powerful people

...yeah I hadn’t realised at the time that she was the daughter of Robert Maxwell...(..I mean, the physical likeness makes it obvious but I didn’t always connect it...)...so she will be extremely wealthy also..?...and I hope that doesn’t buy her some kind of privileged prison life because how can that feel like justice for the victims...?...

...it was incredible how not only was he allowed to come and go as he pleased and still continue his abuse, but he was transported in luxury by helicopters as well...if I saw that in a movie, I would think it was ridiculously exaggerated to reality...

[Niamh.]

...yeah I hadn’t realised at the time that she was the daughter of Robert Maxwell...(..I mean, the physical likeness makes it obvious but I didn’t always connect it...)...so she will be extremely wealthy also..?...and I hope that doesn’t buy her some kind of privileged prison life because how can that feel like justice for the victims...?...

...it was incredible how not only was he allowed to come and go as he pleased and still continue his abuse, but he was transported in Luxor’s by helicopters as well...if I saw that in a movie, I would think it was ridiculously exaggerated to reality...

Yeah, if it wasn't all presented as fact, you'd think it was some mad conspiracy theory if anyone suggested it.

I also didn't know who she was/was related to until i watched the Documentary

[GiRTh]

DIdnt her father commit suicide. Or was that just a rumour?

[bots]

DIdnt her father commit suicide. Or was that just a rumour?

that's the general feeling, some say he fell off the boat, but all the news was going to break of him robbing the pensions funds of his employees so it's more likely suicide. The whole family are crooks

[Beso]

At the bottom of your original post in the thread

Oh I see it now...

Please dont do that again without asking..

[rusticgal]

DIdnt her father commit suicide. Or was that just a rumour?


I think he was found dead in the water next to his boat which was called The Ghislene....she was his favourite daughter. He stole millions from pension funds.

[Niamh.]

Oh I see it now...



Please dont do that again without asking..:laugh2:

[Liam-]

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The last time he visited someone in prison, he ‘killed himself’

Someone’s scared :hehe:

[arista]

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[Ammi]

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The last time he visited someone in prison, he ‘killed himself’

Someone’s scared :hehe:

...what reason would he have for visiting her, hmmmmmm...

[Toy Soldier]

Maxwell "won't sell Andrew out" surely heavily suggests that there is something to sell out with...

[bots]

Maxwell "won't sell Andrew out" surely heavily suggests that there is something to sell out with...

another one that doesnt add up is prince andrew saying he has tried to contact the fbi on several occasions ...did he call and the fbi said to him .. nope we are not talking to you :laugh:

[Tom4784]

If evidence is brought against Andrew, could anything even be done to him? He'd be immune to prosecution, right? Hopefully, if evidence does come to light, they can strip him of his immunity but I couldn't say if that's even a possibility.

[Toy Soldier]

If evidence is brought against Andrew, could anything even be done to him? He'd be immune to prosecution, right? Hopefully, if evidence does come to light, they can strip him of his immunity but I couldn't say if that's even a possibility.As far as I can tell this gets a bit complicated. In the UK only the direct heir line is immune from arrest (so currently Queen, Charles, William, li'l George) but there's some weird law that no one can be legally arrested in the Queen's presence without her permission.

But, none of the crimes he's accused of happened in the UK, so he would need to be extradited for an arrest/charges to happen. That's highly unlikely to EVER happen. But even if it did, that's when diplomatic immunity comes into play... IF he was in the US as an official diplomat at the time that the alleged crimes occurred, he may well have been under diplomatic immunity.

[Ammi]

...I recall reading at the time Andrew gave his interview that by doing so he’d waived his rights to diplomatic immunity...


English media law expert Mark Stephens says the decision by Prince Andrew to talk about his connections with paedophile Jeffrey Epstein was a “catastrophic error”.

“ If he’d kept his silence he’d have been able to remain outside of the case, as he’s a witness and is entitled to diplomatic immunity. He was a private individual and now he’s waived that privacy.”

[arista]

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[Cherie]

As predicted her friends are claiming she herself was a victim of Epstein

[Smithy]

She’s tested positive for Corona :eyes:

[Beso]

:laugh2:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10870988&postcount=20


:shrug:

[Niamh.]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10870988&postcount=20





:shrug:Why don't you edit it yourself?

[Nicky91]

there was one documentary on Investigation Discovery last night over here, about Life of Jeffrey Epstein, and about his ''controversial'' death called ''who killed jeffrey epstein, a ID murder mystery''

about him, Ghislane, apparently they used the mansion of one Victoria's Secret CEO billionaire

also after that incident with those 2 young girls, one reporter wanted to write the truth on what happened there, but he had bribed Vanity Fair to not post any of that and a more positive article about him

he was locked up before, but he still somehow had access to young girls


very well made documentary from ID, also good interviews with few criminal profilers, royalty experts

[Ammi]

...surely it would be crazy and a mockery of the justice system to grant her bail...with all of her wealth and international connections etc, it would be easy for her to flee and ‘disappear’....

[Beso]

Ain't it wierd how we haven't seen her mugshot yet.

[Ammi]

...apparently her friends are saying that Prince Andrew would have known nothing about the abuse happening because he was always a bit dumb...always really plausible reasoning...I didn’t sweat/I was a bit dense/I was eating my pepperoni pizza...

[bots]

If she has dirt on Trump, she will either be out or dead

[Saph]

has anyone seen the Wayfair scandel, apparently they sell sex trafficked children in wardrobes and rugs and stuff and the site is owned by this Ghislanes sister

[The Slim Reaper]

has anyone seen the Wayfair scandel, apparently they sell sex trafficked children in wardrobes and rugs and stuff and the site is owned by this Ghislanes sister

It's a conspiracy theory.

[Saph]

well yeah obviously but its interesting and rather coincidental how the names all match with missing children

[The Slim Reaper]

well yeah obviously but its interesting and rather coincidental how the names all match with missing children

Not really; I could make a cabinet called Saph and I bet there's a missing saph somewhere.

eg: https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18544870.seen-missing-woman-left-royal-bournemouth-hospital/

[Samm]

I watched the filthy rich doc the other day. keep her in there for a long time, witch.

[arista]

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[Ammi]

...her trial will be in July 2021 so she’ll be held without bail for a year...as she’s high suicide risk, she’ll be in solitary confinement essentially and lights will be on 24hr a day for her to be watched...


....she was always going to be high risk of fleeing as she has so many international connections and is so wealthy...apparently she’d had her mobile phone wrapped in tin foil to avoid detection/arrest...two of her victims spoke to the court to ask for no bail...one described her as a predator and a monster who had groomed and abused her from the age of 16yrs...and also said that she has never shown any remorse for her crimes...

[Cherie]

She is going to go crazy in solitary with the lights on all the time no?

[Nicky91]

She is going to go crazy in solitary with the lights on all the time no?

who cares, she is just a disgusting criminal we don't need to care about her life other than making sure she doesn't kill herself, since she needs to sit out her time in prison, face consequences of the crimes, unlike epstein coward

[bots]

when the FBI arrived at her house, they saw her through the window and asked her to open the door. She turned on her heels and ran out the room and the FBI had to break the door down to get in ... the actions of the innocent :laugh:

[Cherie]

who cares, she is just a disgusting criminal we don't need to care about her life other than making sure she doesn't kill herself, since she needs to sit out her time in prison, face consequences of the crimes, unlike epstein coward

if she goes crazy, she won't be fit to stand trial?

[Nicky91]

if she goes crazy, she won't be fit to stand trial?

she doesn't have the rights to defend herself in trial anyway

[bots]

how do people know she is a suicide risk? I think a lot of assumptions are being made ... also plenty people have to wait a year for trial, it's not that unusual if there is a lot of evidence to gather

[Cherie]

she doesn't have the rights to defend herself in trial anyway

if she doesn't stand trial she can't be convicted

[Nicky91]

if she doesn't stand trial she can't be convicted

she can, behind her back a trial, and then moving her to jail where she can rot

without her or her lawyer present

[Cherie]

she can, behind her back a trial, and then moving her to jail where she can rot

without her or her lawyer present


Okay Nicky

[Niamh.]

I'd rather she spat out some high up names and cut a deal

[Livia]

she doesn't have the rights to defend herself in trial anyway

She's actually innocent right now. And will be until a verdict is reached.

[Cherie]

how do people know she is a suicide risk? I think a lot of assumptions are being made ... also plenty people have to wait a year for trial, it's not that unusual if there is a lot of evidence to gather

it seems a long time in the case when they already have a cohort of victims ready to give evidence?

[Niamh.]

it seems a long time in the case when they already have a cohort of victims ready to give evidence?

They might have a backlog of cases because of Covid maybe?

[Ammi]

how do people know she is a suicide risk? I think a lot of assumptions are being made ... also plenty people have to wait a year for trial, it's not that unusual if there is a lot of evidence to gather

...because atm thats what’s being reported, that she’s wearing ‘paper clothing’, has had her bedding removed, is on 24 hr watch with the lights on because she’s a suicide risk...it’s not an assumption, it’s the information we’ve been given...

[bots]

...because atm thats what’s being reported, that she’s wearing ‘paper clothing’, has had her bedding removed, is on 24 hr watch with the lights on because she’s a suicide risk...it’s not an assumption, it’s the information we’ve been given...

i don't think an accurate mental assessment will have been carried out yet, that process takes weeks. They will be erring on the side of caution for the moment, but it doesn't mean it will last until her trial

[Ammi]

i don't think an accurate mental assessment will have been carried out yet, that process takes weeks. They will be erring on the side of caution for the moment, but it doesn't mean it will last until her trial

...you asked how it was known that she was being treated as a suicide risk/..felt it was just an assumption being made..?...but it isn’t, it is what every report has stated...of course it’s a precaution that she’s seen as a suicide risk atm..:laugh:...

[Ammi]

I'd rather she spat out some high up names and cut a deal

....yep, so many people being protected showing how money can buy any perversion...

[Cherie]

They might have a backlog of cases because of Covid maybe?

Maybe!

[Niamh.]

Maybe!

I'm still waiting for a new dentist appointment :oh:

[Niamh.]

....yep, so many people being protected showing how money can buy any perversion...

Yeah, it's just so disappointing and disgusting really. As much as I don't want Ghislane to get a shorter sentence, the thoughts of all these powerful figures getting away with it scot free is infuriating

[Nicky91]

She's actually innocent right now. And will be until a verdict is reached.

she is not innocent

[Cherie]

she is not innocent

Judge Nicky has pronounced, let her be gone :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

She'll 'die' in prison I suspect.

Just as Jeffrey Epstein 'committed suicide' the very same night the guards forgot to check him and the cameras malfunctioned. Hmmm.

[Nicky91]

Judge Nicky has pronounced, let her be gone :laugh:

there was proof she was in the same room with Epstein during some of those assaults, for example the one in that victoria's secret CEO mansion

she is not innocent


same goes for Prince Andrew, also not innocent and should be locked up for life

[arista]

She'll 'die' in prison I suspect.

Just as Jeffrey Epstein 'committed suicide' the very same night the guards forgot to check him and the cameras malfunctioned. Hmmm.


Yes could be from Covid-19 Death
which is in USA prisons

[Cherie]

there was proof she was in the same room with Epstein during some of those assaults, for example the one in that victoria's secret CEO mansion

she is not innocent


same goes for Prince Andrew, also not innocent and should be locked up for life

with all due respect all we know is that Andrew allegedly had sex with a 17 year old girl which is not illegal? so what are you locking him up for exactly?

[Niamh.]

with all due respect all we know is that Andrew allegedly had sex with a 17 year old girl which is not illegal? so what are you locking him up for exactly?

The woman claims that she was forced to have sex with him which is illegal

[Cherie]

The woman claims that she was forced to have sex with him which is illegal

But if she never gets to court like Nicky is suggesting, Andrew will never be called as a witness to prove one way or the other :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

Yes could be from Covid-19 Death
which is in USA prisons

I wouldn't be surprised at all.

They'll want her dead before she starts talking and dropping names.

[Cherie]

I am finding the year wait with her in full view all the time in a lit room very dodgy, if she ends up being diagnosed as mentally ill and unfit for trial, job done, no trial and no inconvenient witnesses

[Niamh.]

But if she never gets to court like Nicky is suggesting, Andrew will never be called as a witness to prove one way or the other :shrug:

I'm not agreeing with Nicky that he shouldn't go to court I'm just clarifying that what is alleged is illegal, if it was all above board why would he even deny meeting the woman when there's clear photographic evidence that he did? this whole discussion is pointless anyway, there's not a hope in hell Andrew will ever see the inside of a courtroom, lets be honest, even if Ghislane accuses him of being involved

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't be surprised at all.

They'll want her dead before she starts talking and dropping names.

They'll probably give her a covid suffering cellmate

[Amy Jade]

They'll probably give her a covid suffering cellmate

Yeah and if nothing comes of that an unstable violent one and should that not work the guards will forget her and the cameras will shockingly turn off and she will commit suicide.

[Nicky91]

I'm not agreeing with Nicky that he shouldn't go to court I'm just clarifying that what is alleged is illegal, if it was all above board why would he even deny meeting the woman when there's clear photographic evidence that he did? this whole discussion is pointless anyway, there's not a hope in hell Andrew will ever see the inside of a courtroom, lets be honest, even if Ghislane accuses him of being involved

also video evidence now against Andrew, what i had read more recently

[Tom4784]

A year long wait in those conditions is quite insane, she will never make it to her court date. They should have had her in court asap.

[Cherie]

They'll probably give her a covid suffering cellmate

Yeah and if nothing comes of that an unstable violent one and should that not work the guards will forget her and the cameras will shockingly turn off and she will commit suicide.

she will be deemed unfit and never make it to court, she will then be moved to a 'mental institution' and in time people will forget about her and she will be freed is my guess

[Niamh.]

she will be deemed unfit and never make it to court, she will then be moved to a 'mental institution' and in time people will forget about her and she will be freed is my guess

That would be a nice an easy solution for everyone involved(a part from the actual victims of course), it would make your blood boil

[Cherie]

That would be a nice an easy solution for everyone involved(a part from the actual victims of course), it would make your blood boil

I know

[bots]

everyone is assuming she will tell the truth, and we should remember that each person she implicates makes her own role in it more severe and likely to result in a longer sentence. Nothing is going to come from this, it will still be she said this and they said that

[Ammi]

...it’s being reported that she’s secretly married but won’t reveal who her husband is...I wonder if the trial is a year away because she’s pleaded not guilty.../...if that then requires longer time for the not guilty case to be made../..I don’t know how these things work in the USA...

[bots]

...it’s being reported that she’s secretly married but won’t reveal who her husband is...I wonder if the trial is a year away because she’s pleaded not guilty.../...if that then requires longer time for the not guilty case to be made../..I don’t know how these things work in the USA...

the prosecution said that they would need 2 weeks to present their case so the duration was likely to be 3 weeks, so the court then needs to schedule on that basis. Also the defense (and prosecution) need time to prepare, collect all the evidence that is then reviewed by either side ... it all takes time. I think the seriousness of the charges also have a bearing on the time frame

[Ammi]

the prosecution said that they would need 2 weeks to present their case so the duration was likely to be 3 weeks, so the court then needs to schedule on that basis. Also the defense (and prosecution) need time to prepare, collect all the evidence that is then reviewed by either side ... it all takes time. I think the seriousness of the charges also have a bearing on the time frame

...I don’t think she’ll be kept in solitary confinement for the entire year and definitely not with things like the light on 24hrs a day/paper clothing/no bedding etc...It’s a bit confusing because I’m sure I read somewhere that she had a ‘roomie’ already...and both of those things can’t be true, that she has a roomie and that she’s in a solitary unit...

[Ammi]

ITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Federal officials were so worried Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime confidant Ghislaine Maxwell might take her own life after her arrest that they took away her clothes and bedsheets and made her wear paper attire while in custody, an official familiar with the matter told the Associated Press.
The steps to ensure Maxwell’s safety while she’s locked up at a federal jail in New York extend far beyond the measures federal officials took when they first arrested her in New Hampshire last week.

The Justice Department has added extra security precautions to help prevent other inmates from harming her and to stop her from harming herself, the official said. Protocols put in place include ensuring that Maxwell has a roommate in her cell, that she is monitored and that someone is always with her while she’s behind bars, said the official, who could not discuss the ongoing investigation publicly and spoke to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity.


...the Los Angeles Times...

[Niamh.]

everyone is assuming she will tell the truth, and we should remember that each person she implicates makes her own role in it more severe and likely to result in a longer sentence. Nothing is going to come from this, it will still be she said this and they said that

Not if she gets a plea bargain on the condition that she does name names

[Ammi]

...it shouldn’t end with her, this wasn’t just two people...it should be all of those ‘rich and famous’ who were part of the abuse...

[Niamh.]

...it shouldn’t end with her, this wasn’t just two people...it should be all of those ‘rich and famous’ who were part of the abuse...

I wonder are those alleged recordings still knocking around somewhere

[Ammi]

I wonder are those alleged recordings still knocking around somewhere

...ugghhhh, I just think if they existed then wouldn’t she have already used them and kind of given herself up to offer them as a deal...hiding the way she did when she has such a bargaining tool to manipulate her freedom
basically...

[Niamh.]

...ugghhhh, I just think if they existed then wouldn’t she have already used them and kind of given herself up to offer them as a deal...hiding the way she did when she has such a bargaining tool to manipulate her freedom
basically...

Unless she's worried she might end like Epstein if she threatens to out some of these people, I mean we know one potential name involved is the Queen's son

[Ammi]

Unless she's worried she might end like Epstein if she threatens to out some of these people, I mean we know one potential name involved is the Queen's son

...is Trump meant to have any involvement also, wasn’t he friends with Epstein at the time...hasn’t she mentioned tapes of ‘powerful US politicians’...

[Niamh.]

...is Trump meant to have any involvement also, wasn’t he friends with Epstein at the time...hasn’t she mentioned tapes of ‘powerful US politicians’...

Well they certainly knew each other well as there were pictures of them at Trumps house

[rusticgal]

They cant let anything happen to her whilst shes in custody awaiting trial...imagine the embaressment to the authorities...and most importantly it would be another denial of justice to the victims.

[Ammi]

..Lisa Bloom is the lawyer who represents 6 of the victims...


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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6F40/production/_113408482_mirrorresent1607snip.jpg

[Ammi]

...it’s being reported that she’s secretly married but won’t reveal who her husband is...I wonder if the trial is a year away because she’s pleaded not guilty.../...if that then requires longer time for the not guilty case to be made../..I don’t know how these things work in the USA...

...just going back to this and it being reported that she secretly married...it’s also being reported now that the reason being, she married to protect her fortune...to prevent any victims making a claim against her...

[Niamh.]

...just going back to this and it being reported that she secretly married...it’s also being reported now that the reason being, she married to protect her fortune...to prevent any victims making a claim against her...I don't understand how they can get away with doing that, her and Jeffrey I mean. Surely their assets can be seized back?

[Ammi]

...I wonder if ‘I wish her well’ is a warning to Ghislaine Maxwell to keep her secrets...why on Earth he would wish a child abuser, well...and say that he doesn’t know much about it/her...the President of the USA having no knowledge of the outside world in one of the most talked about cases...scary...


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[Niamh.]

He wishes her well? A sex trafficker, interesting

[Crimson Dynamo]

He wishes her well? A sex trafficker, interesting

not convicted yet no

[Niamh.]

not convicted yet no

No, lets see if she makes it to trial, shall we?

[Tom4784]

Oh yes, he may have wished a sex offender well but it's okay because she isn't convicted of it yet, let's just forget the mountain of evidence against her because Trump can't do anything wrong.

[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

Ghislaine Maxwell loses 'extraordinary' last-minute appeal to stop release of 'embarrassing' confidential documents...



Ghislaine Maxwell has lost a desperate last-minute appeal to stop “embarrassing” confidential documents from being released.

US District Judge Loretta Preska confirmed her ruling that the files must be unsealed and released to the public, despite Ms Maxwell’s lawyers' “extraordinary request” for her to reconsider.

The British socialite, 58, had tried to argue that the government wrongfully used depositions filed in her civil lawsuit to bring criminal charges.

She is currently answering a number of suits brought by victims of associate Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced financier found dead in his prison cell last year.

Her lawyers charged on Wednesday that prosecutors in a separate criminal case used confidential depositions she made in 2016 in the civil case that is now being consideration by Judge Preska.

The defamation suit was filed in 2015 by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who alleges she was abused by Epstein and pimped out to powerful figures including Prince Andrew, and confidentially settled in 2017.

The Duke of York has denied all allegations.

The depositions are Ms Maxwell’s only on-the-record account of her association with Epstein and his sex-trafficking ring. Her attorneys argue it was given under an expectation of confidentiality that had been agreed to by both sides in the dispute.

Transcripts of the depositions were designated “confidential” and subject to a "Protective Order".

However, they came to be in the hands of the US government, which used statements made by the heiress to charge her with perjury in an indictment filed last month.

Parts of it were unsealed by a judge last year.

In an April 2016 interview with Ms Giuffre’s lawyers, Ms Maxwell was asked: “Did Jeffrey Epstein have a scheme to recruit underage girls for sexual massages?”

To which she answered: “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

During another deposition in July of the same year, Ms Maxwell said: “I wasn’t aware that he was having sexual activities with anyone when I was with him other than myself.”

Prosecutors at the Southern District of New York claim she was lying when she said she was not to be aware of Epstein’s assaults on women and underage girls.

“This is a serious violation of the Protective Order, and merits the commencement of contempt proceedings,” Ms Maxwell’s lawyers argued in documents filed at a Manhattan court on Wednesday. They accused Ms Giuffre of leaking the deposition, and "in conjunction with the government" setting a "perjury trap" for their client, whose six criminal counts include two for perjury.

Ms Maxwell has pleaded not guilty to all the charges.

They also tried to claim that the trove of documents - which could expose fresh details about Ms Maxwell's sex life as well as her relation to powerful figures accused of taking part in the abuse of the late millionaire's victims - would result in “substantial negative media publicity and speculation in an internet world."

Judge Preska ordered that the release of documents relating to Ms Maxwell's deposition should be pushed back to Monday to give her legal team time to argue their case before the Court of Appeal. All other material in question should be unsealed, as planned, on Thursday.

Legal experts said there was little precedent for the judge to rely on due to the complex interweaving of Ms Maxwell’s civil and criminal suits.

[Ammi]

Ghislaine Maxwell: court unseals documents related to dealings with Epstein...



A cache of documents in civil litigation against the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell was unsealed on Thursday night, including early 2015 correspondence with her longtime confidant Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced financier and convicted sex offender.

“You have done nothing wrong and i woudl [sic] urge you to start acting like it,” Epstein wrote in a 25 January 2015 email to Maxwell. “go outside, head high, not as an esacping[sic] convict. go to parties. deal with it.”

The exchange followed a request from Maxwell, who was romantically linked to Epstein, to be distanced from his dating life.

“I would appreciate it if shelley would come out and say she was your g’friend - I think she was from end 99 to 2002,” she had written the day before.

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Federal authorities arrested Maxwell on 2 July and charged her for allegedly participating in Epstein’s sex trafficking. Maxwell, daughter of the late publishing baron Robert Maxwell, pleaded not guilty on 14 July.

She is being held in jail pending trial, which is scheduled for next July.

Maxwell’s attorneys in the civil suit had argued to keep these records under seal, maintaining previously that “this series of pleadings concerns [attempts] to compel Ms Maxwell to answer intrusive questions about her sex life”. The documents, they argued, are “extremely personal, confidential and subject to considerable abuse by the media”.

Manhattan federal court judge Loretta Preska ruled on 23 July to unseal them, however, saying: “The court finds that the countervailing interests identified fail to rebut the presumption of public access.”

Documents involving Maxwell’s deposition have not been released yet, as her lawyers are appealing their unsealing.

The documents in question stem from Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre’s 2015 civil action against Maxwell.

Giuffre has claimed that Maxwell lured her into Epstein’s orbit at 15 years old, under the guise of offering work as a masseuse. Maxwell met Giuffre at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in south Florida, where the then teen was working as a locker-room attendant.

In this suit, which has since been settled, Giuffre claimed that Maxwell had defamed her, by stating that she was a liar for accusing Epstein and Maxwell of sexual impropriety.

An extensive collection of documents in this suit was also unsealed last August. They featured both bombshell claims, and denials that world leaders participated in Epstein’s sex ring. These filings were disclosed shortly after Epstein’s arrest last July. Epstein killed himself in jail last August.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-unsealed-documents-correspondence-013941868.html

[Ammi]

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[bots]

I just hope all the high profile people involved all go down

[Ammi]

...I wonder if Prince Andrew has started to sweat again...I think he might have done, a miracle cure, hallelujah...

[bots]

...I wonder if Prince Andrew has started to sweat again...I think he might have done, a miracle cure, hallelujah...

i'm sure he will be fully cooperating with the fbi as he has been throughout :laugh:

[Ammi]

i'm sure he will be fully cooperating with the fbi as he has been throughout :laugh:

...if only they weren’t being so difficult with their appointment calendar and fitting him in...do they not realise he’s a PRINCE and deserves a better deal than this...

[Ammi]

Ghislaine Maxwell thought young Paris Hilton would be ‘perfect’ for Jeffrey Epstein, new documentary claims...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-thought-young-paris-201040592.html

[Ammi]

Ghislaine Maxwell 'physically abused' by correctional officer during routine search in prison...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-physically-abused-correctional-045732779.html

[rusticgal]

Ghislaine Maxwell 'physically abused' by correctional officer during routine search in prison...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ghislaine-maxwell-physically-abused-correctional-045732779.html



I guess what goes around comes around...

[Niamh.]

I guess what goes around comes around...

mmm I wouldn't condone stuff like that but it's hard to muster up sympathy considering what she did to young women and girls in her lifetime

[Ammi]

...I can’t cry any tears for her as such atm, but it’s an horrendous thing to have happen for anyone...

[Vicky.]

Am actually quite surprised she hasn't managed to 'off herself' yet. Mind, she might not know as much as he did, so no need for her to mysteriously die while on suicide watch...

[Cherie]

While I have no sympathy for her, she should at least be 'safe' with prison personnel so this is unacceptable

[Vicky.]

I agree. Its easy to shrug it off as karma or something, but really, it should not ever happen, to anyone, even the worlds worst. We don't punish people by letting them be assaulted. People should be as 'safe' as possible in jails really.

[Niamh.]

Yeah can't argue with that really

[Ammi]

...I read about this 4th accuser and the other indictment a few days ago...all of the reports that I saw had something additional added about the dates/time framing and an additional name mentioned...which now seems to have been removed from all articles...so that’s interesting...


US prosecutors file new indictment against Ghislaine Maxwell that includes a new, 4th accuser who was a minor...


US prosecutors filed a superseding indictment with additional sex-trafficking charges against Ghislaine Maxwell on Monday and included a fourth accuser who was a minor at the time cited in the allegations.

The original indictment served against Maxwell in June included the testimonies of three accusers. The latest accuser in the case notably expands the scope of involvement Maxwell is accused of having with the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Epstein died by suicide in August 2019 while awaiting trial on charges tied to allegations that he conducted the sex trafficking of dozens of girls, but some of Epstein's accusers have alleged Maxwell helped procure and groom the young girls to sleep with men in Epstein's circle.

Maxwell was arrested in July and charged with a number of counts tied to allegations of trafficking minors with Epstein between 1994 and 1997. But the new indictment from prosecutors accused her of grooming minors until as late as 2004.


...full article as of now...


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/us-prosecutors-file-indictment-against-213742920.html

[Alf]

End of this month. That's if she makes it to that date.


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[rusticgal]

End of this month. That's if she makes it to that date.


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If she’s made it at this point…I’m sure we will get to see her stand trial :cheer2: