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Greg!
05-07-2020, 12:25 PM
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Legend Nicola queen of Scots did that!

arista
05-07-2020, 12:37 PM
The PM says NO.

joeysteele
05-07-2020, 01:04 PM
I think as this pandemic eases, with the prospect of this hard-line government in place, with at best only another hung parliament in 2024.

Brexit firmly in place too.

I can see Scotland leaning stronger to independence.
Of all the leaders of all parties across the UK, for me Nicola Sturgeon has shone for her honesty, compassion and competence.

No UK government can or should deny and ignore the will expressed by the Scottish people.

The Holyrood elections will likely add strength to this and increase further the stature of Nicola Sturgeon.
So whatever Scotland comes to want as to independence, I hope it is granted them.

There's been 2 recent great leaders in Scottish politics.
Ruth Davidson.

Also Nicola Sturgeon who quite honestly, I wish was actually leading the UK too, in place of the choices we have now.

Samm
05-07-2020, 01:07 PM
Nicola and Angela :clap1:

Crimson Dynamo
05-07-2020, 01:07 PM
I think as this pandemic eases, with the prospect of this hard-line government in place, with at best only another hung parliament in 2024.

Brexit firmly in place too.

I can see Scotland leaning stronger to independence.
Of all the leaders of all parties across the UK, for me Nicola Sturgeon has shone for her honesty, compassion and competence.

No UK government can or should deny and ignore the will expressed by the Scottish people.

The Holyrood elections will likely add strength to this and increase further the stature of Nicola Sturgeon.
So whatever Scotland comes to want as to independence, I hope it is granted them.

There's been 2 recent great leaders in Scottish politics.
Ruth Davidson.

Also Nicola Sturgeon who quite honestly, I wish was actually leading the UK too, in place of the choices we have now.

:clap1:

arista
05-07-2020, 01:08 PM
"No UK government can or should deny and
ignore the will expressed by the Scottish people."


Johnson PM will
he will say they do not have a majority for it.


The Queen is also against Scotland

We have a bigger army.

arista
05-07-2020, 01:13 PM
Nicola and Angela :clap1:

No Samm
you Padlocked into the UK

Denver
05-07-2020, 01:14 PM
Yes cut them off put borders up and take away every bit of business and money that belongs to the UK

Liam-
05-07-2020, 01:17 PM
Boris has a thing for subverting democracy so I’m sure he’ll find some way to block independence even if the majority call for it

arista
05-07-2020, 01:17 PM
Boris has a thing for subverting democracy so I’m sure he’ll find some way to block independence even if the majority call for it


Yes Slick Liam

Tom4784
05-07-2020, 01:21 PM
It's only fair they get another referendum, Brexit is a fundamental change for the UK and Scotland flatly voted against it. They should get a say in whether they do this with us or forge their own path.

Tom4784
05-07-2020, 01:23 PM
Yes cut them off put borders up and take away every bit of business and money that belongs to the UK

Acting like a spiteful ex won't do much, especially when they'll probably be in a more solid financial position within the EU while we're floundering as the US ****s us over.

We need all the help we can get, we should respect their choice and seek to maintain a good relationship because we'll need all the help we can get.

Brother Leon
05-07-2020, 01:24 PM
Can’t blame them.

Can London join you please? We’ll play nice.

joeysteele
05-07-2020, 02:01 PM
Yes cut them off put borders up and take away every bit of business and money that belongs to the UK


Scotland has been a dumping ground from all parties making up the UK government for decades at least.

Testing out their more unsavoury policies, such as Thatcher and her poll tax.

Money that belongs to the UK you say.
You do realise Scotland is at present part of that UK.

Labour in the 70s and then the Cons afterwards creamed off near all the asset of North sea oil.
It's the Scots who ought to be livid.

After decades of having their resources acquired with nowhere near the right return back.
From both Con and Labour governments.

No wonder the SNP now dominate there and rightly so.

I still say too again, if the Holyrood elections really go Nicola Sturgeon's way.

It would be both a desperately, idiotic dangerous government and PM who refused another referendum on independence.

Cherie
05-07-2020, 02:06 PM
:fc:

Babayaro.
05-07-2020, 02:48 PM
Forgive my language but...skinny!

rusticgal
05-07-2020, 02:59 PM
let them get on with it...:dance:

arista
05-07-2020, 03:07 PM
It's only fair they get another referendum, Brexit is a fundamental change for the UK and Scotland flatly voted against it. They should get a say in whether they do this with us or forge their own path.


No Dezzy
The PM and the Queen say NO

joeysteele
05-07-2020, 03:16 PM
No Dezzy
The PM and the Queen say NO

The Queen can't say no..
She has to do what her government when elected people her.
Not what she thinks or wants.

There's no guarantee now, that this government will have anything other than a much smaller majority in 2024, or even no majority at all.

Don't underestimate Nicola Sturgeon, she is formidable in a really good and strong way.

bots
05-07-2020, 05:48 PM
Scotland relies heavily on the UK for cash, much more so since the last independence vote, just a minor issue :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
05-07-2020, 05:55 PM
Scotland relies heavily on the UK for cash, much more so since the last independence vote, just a minor issue :laugh:

No it does not

The UK is Scotland

Mokka
05-07-2020, 06:14 PM
"No UK government can or should deny and
ignore the will expressed by the Scottish people."


Johnson PM will
he will say they do not have a majority for it.


The Queen is also against Scotland

We have a bigger army.

Oh yes... I'm sure sending the army into Scotland will convince the people to stay

Mystic Mock
06-07-2020, 05:00 AM
Tbf I can understand why the Scottish feel the way that they do.

However I do feel that the last Referendum would've been the better time to leave as yes both the UK and Scotland would've initially been Economically hit, it wouldn't have been as bad as leaving when we've got to try and cope with Brexit, and also try to recover Economically from the lockdown due to Covid-19.

I'm not surprised by the Survey result, but like with Brexit at the time, I do feel that it would be the wrong time for both the UK and Scotland if Scotland were to leave.

Mystic Mock
06-07-2020, 05:03 AM
I think as this pandemic eases, with the prospect of this hard-line government in place, with at best only another hung parliament in 2024.

Brexit firmly in place too.

I can see Scotland leaning stronger to independence.
Of all the leaders of all parties across the UK, for me Nicola Sturgeon has shone for her honesty, compassion and competence.

No UK government can or should deny and ignore the will expressed by the Scottish people.

The Holyrood elections will likely add strength to this and increase further the stature of Nicola Sturgeon.
So whatever Scotland comes to want as to independence, I hope it is granted them.

There's been 2 recent great leaders in Scottish politics.
Ruth Davidson.

Also Nicola Sturgeon who quite honestly, I wish was actually leading the UK too, in place of the choices we have now.

I agree with you 100% Joey on Nicola, Scotland has a leader to be proud of.

arista
06-07-2020, 05:13 AM
The Queen can't say no..
She has to do what her government when elected people her.
Not what she thinks or wants.

There's no guarantee now, that this government will have anything other than a much smaller majority in 2024, or even no majority at all.

Don't underestimate Nicola Sturgeon, she is formidable in a really good and strong way.


Yes it's a Covert saying
under her breath , like.

Ammi
06-07-2020, 05:45 AM
...I guess that support has surged after reading the Meghan Markle thread, TS is leading that run for freedom....

arista
06-07-2020, 10:47 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-urged-condemn-scottish-border-protests-2904366


Evil SNP Scotsman Attacking UK Entering
their nation.

Cherie
06-07-2020, 10:48 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-urged-condemn-scottish-border-protests-2904366


Evil SNP Scotsman Attacking UK Entering
their nation.

:joker:

The Slim Reaper
06-07-2020, 10:59 AM
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-urged-condemn-scottish-border-protests-2904366


Evil SNP Scotsman Attacking UK Entering
their nation.

Do you see any parallels with what England is doing, with good folks like yourself metaphorically protesting our borders?

arista
06-07-2020, 11:07 AM
Do you see any parallels with what England is doing, with good folks like yourself metaphorically protesting our borders?


Sure
but this about the Scottish Side

Cherie
06-07-2020, 11:22 AM
Do you see any parallels with what England is doing, with good folks like yourself metaphorically protesting our borders?

Are you condemning this Slim :fan:

The Slim Reaper
06-07-2020, 11:29 AM
Are you condemning this Slim :fan:

Hell nah. I'd be on the border myself with a can of tennents super, and one of those tartan hats with Annies hair attached. :laugh:

The Slim Reaper
06-07-2020, 11:31 AM
Sure
but this about the Scottish Side

They just want to protect their borders to stop English refugees fleeing a despotic, incompetent regime to seek asylum.

joeysteele
06-07-2020, 11:36 AM
I agree with you 100% Joey on Nicola, Scotland has a leader to be proud of.

I've got massive respect for Nicola Mock.
Definitely a real leader and statesperson.

Ammi
06-07-2020, 11:46 AM
They just want to protect their borders to stop English refugees fleeing a despotic, incompetent regime to seek asylum.

...plus obviously the idea of free prescriptions in Scotland is quite appealing...gotta reap those benefits when we can, baby...

Liam-
06-07-2020, 11:49 AM
Haven’t the English elite been preaching about closing boarders to potential threats to our health for years? They should understand the need for Scotland and Wales to protect ourselves from a further health crisis at their hands.

Cherie
06-07-2020, 11:57 AM
Hell nah. I'd be on the border myself with a can of tennents super, and one of those tartan hats with Annies hair attached. :laugh:

thought not!

The Slim Reaper
06-07-2020, 12:06 PM
thought not!

Playful schadenfreude is a bit different, wouldn't you agree?

Cherie
06-07-2020, 12:09 PM
Playful schadenfreude is a bit different, wouldn't you agree?

:fan:

arista
14-07-2020, 05:14 PM
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The Slim Reaper
14-07-2020, 05:19 PM
BBC had brexit extremists on daily too, but I guess that was the right kind of propaganda for the gallahads.

Oliver_W
14-07-2020, 05:29 PM
If Scotland does leave, we want the Cake of Rock back for future coronations.

Liam-
14-07-2020, 05:37 PM
Dan Wootton accusing anyone or anything of being biased is peak hypocrisy

arista
14-07-2020, 05:37 PM
Johnson PM says NO

arista
14-07-2020, 05:38 PM
Dan Wooton accusing anyone or anything of being biased is peak hypocrisy


But he plays Sarah Smith
BBC Scotland Reporter

The Slim Reaper
14-07-2020, 05:42 PM
Johnson PM says NO

He needs to shut his ***** mouth.

joeysteele
14-07-2020, 06:01 PM
Johnson PM says NO

He says no to lots of things then gets forced to change his mind.
He cannot hold Scotland like a prisoner, I fear the power going to his head is really fuelling his delusion.

Toy Soldier
14-07-2020, 06:04 PM
I often wonder if the only reason that the Conservatives are so heavily against the idea, especially post-Brexit, is that they don't want a land border with a non-UK nation...

Cherie
14-07-2020, 06:05 PM
I often wonder if the only reason that the Conservatives are so heavily against the idea, especially post-Brexit, is that they don't want a land border with a non-UK nation...

Don’t they have one already :joker:

Toy Soldier
14-07-2020, 06:06 PM
Don’t they have one already :joker:

England doesn't ;)

Tom4784
14-07-2020, 08:50 PM
Haven’t the English elite been preaching about closing boarders to potential threats to our health for years? They should understand the need for Scotland and Wales to protect ourselves from a further health crisis at their hands.

'Do as I say and not as I do.'

Marsh.
14-07-2020, 09:08 PM
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Makes me PISS myself laughing when this guy tries to discuss serious topics.

Get back to earning a living discussing Cheryl Cole's latest hairdo.

Greg!
14-07-2020, 09:27 PM
Makes me PISS myself laughing when this guy tries to discuss serious topics.

Get back to earning a living discussing Cheryl Cole's latest hairdo.

literally :laugh2: