Banning smilies from serous debates

[thesheriff443]

They have no place in the serious debate and news section

The joker is well over used and to added to posts that mock another’s members opinion.

If you want to post a load smilies head to a chat and games thread.

Also the use of the words hate,hateful racists and racism should be defined, as in the media or the public.

It should not used on the forum implying members are being hateful or racist.

Also instant bans for taking a thread off topic.

These measures will get serious debates and news back to being a debate about the subject not the member.

[Smithy]

Yes sick of seeing :wavey: in there

[Smithy]

Oh disagree with some of your other stuff, people use veiled racism in SD quite often, they’re not being blatantly racist, but the undertones are there in the post

[thesheriff443]

Oh disagree with some of your other stuff, people use veiled racism in SD quite often, they’re not being blatantly racist, but the undertones are there in the post

Then let’s use the report fuction instead of engaging and let mods and admin decide.

[Smithy]

Then let’s use the report fuction instead of engaging and let mods and admin decide.

I do and usually the racist post doesn’t get deleted but the one calling it racist does :shrug:

[Smithy]

Seems quite simple to me, if you don’t want to be called racist or hateful, don’t be racist or hateful

[Liam-]

Seems quite simple to me, if you don’t want to be called racist or hateful, don’t be racist or hateful

A wild concept

[Marsh.]

Then let’s use the report fuction instead of engaging

Follow your own advice.

The forum isn't designed to suit you.

[The Slim Reaper]

Instant bans for taking threads off topic seems harsh and unenforceable. What is off topic anyway? If there is a thread in SD about a lion escaping from a zoo and murdering a couple of people, and I mention my cat, is that taking it off topic?

Also, some of the best threads in the history of tibb start off about one thing and end up about something completely different.

[Captain.Remy]

Not taking away TIBB's essence of taking the p!ss out of something serious though.

[Captain.Remy]

Seems quite simple to me, if you don’t want to be called racist or hateful, don’t be racist or hateful

This should be listed as item number 1 in the forum rules tbh

[The Slim Reaper]

This should be listed as item number 1 in the forum rules tbh

Tibb would lose too many regular posters.

[Oliver_W]

Replying with only gifs should be against the rules in SD&N to be fair.

Calling out what someone sees as bigotry should be fine, as long as it's not done in an attacking way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Didn't take long to press racism button

I mean, really

[Cherie]

Replying with only gifs should be against the rules in SD&N to be fair.

Calling out what someone sees as bigotry should be fine, as long as it's not done in an attacking way.

It used to be

[The Slim Reaper]

How about a maximum reports per week? That might encourage people to debate rather than troll/report?

[Marsh.]

Replying with only gifs should be against the rules in SD&N to be fair.

It is.

[Liam-]

How about a maximum reports per week? That might encourage people to debate rather than troll/report?

Desperately needed, the report button is abused, it’s basically become a ‘help me, I’m losing’ button

[The Slim Reaper]

Desperately needed, the report button is abused, it’s basically become a ‘help me, I’m losing’ button

Agreed, I think that certain posters only goal is to try and get the conversation to a point where they can hit the red/white triangle.

[Beso]

I do and usually the racist post doesn’t get deleted but the one calling it racist does :shrug:

Maybe it wasnt as racist as you thought.:shrug:

[Beso]

Hands up if you hit the report button twice a week.

[The Slim Reaper]

Hands up if you hit the report button twice a week.

If it was twice a month, my hand would still stay down, and those that want to abuse it as a tactic rather than honestly, are hardly likely to admit is are they?

[Smithy]

Maybe it wasnt as racist as you thought.:shrug:

Or maybe whoever dealt with it didn’t understand the racist undertones in the post :shrug:

Guess we’ll never know :shrug:

[Glenn.]

They have no place in the serious debate and news section

The joker is well over used and to added to posts that mock another’s members opinion.

If you want to post a load smilies head to a chat and games thread.

Also the use of the words hate,hateful racists and racism should be defined, as in the media or the public.

It should not used on the forum implying members are being hateful or racist.

Also instant bans for taking a thread off topic.

These measures will get serious debates and news back to being a debate about the subject not the member.

People should be able to post what they like on a public forum like so many people often remind everyone else.
If members are racist or hateful then they should be called racist and hateful. If people don’t like it then they should stop being racist and hateful.
If you’re after instant bans then you wouldn’t last very long considering you enter a thread to criticise what other members are saying rather than contribute to the thread discussion.

[Toy Soldier]

No.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh my look who be triggered

[Toy Soldier]

Oh my look who be triggered

Dying in your bed, many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just ONE chance, to come back here as young men... and tell our mods, that they may take our :clap1:... but they will never take... our :hee:!

[Marsh.]

Maybe it wasnt as racist as you thought.:shrug:

AS racist? There's a scale of acceptable racism?

[The Slim Reaper]

Oh my look who be triggered

The one who smelt it, dealt it.

[Black Dagger]

Oh my look who be triggered

Says the one who reports everything.

[rusticgal]

They have no place in the serious debate and news section

The joker is well over used and to added to posts that mock another’s members opinion.

If you want to post a load smilies head to a chat and games thread.

Also the use of the words hate,hateful racists and racism should be defined, as in the media or the public.

It should not used on the forum implying members are being hateful or racist.

Also instant bans for taking a thread off topic.

These measures will get serious debates and news back to being a debate about the subject not the member.


I completely agree with you...

[rusticgal]

Seems quite simple to me, if you don’t want to be called racist or hateful, don’t be racist or hateful



That’s all very well but I’m neither racist or hateful but been called out for both for disliking someone of mixed race. It’s how people with no common sense like to react....
Leave it to the mods they do a great job...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Says the one who reports everything.

Reported

[Glenn.]

I completely agree with you...

You used smilies 13 times in the Meghan thread...

[rusticgal]

You used smilies 13 times in the Meghan thread...



That’s because we can....I was just agreeing it might be a good idea..

How obsessive are you...you actually went through that whole thread to count my smilies.

[Glenn.]

That’s because we can....

How obsessive are you...you actually went through that whole thread to count my smilies.

I didn’t go through the whole thread, just your posts hypocrite :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

That’s because we can....I was just agreeing it might be a good idea..

How obsessive are you...you actually went through that whole thread to count my smilies.

:joker:

[caprimint]

Why do smilies make people so sensitive :skull:

[caprimint]

That’s because we can....I was just agreeing it might be a good idea..

How obsessive are you...you actually went through that whole thread to count my smilies.
:joker:

[Cherie]

Says the one who reports everything.

Reported

That’s because we can....I was just agreeing it might be a good idea..

How obsessive are you...you actually went through that whole thread to count my smilies.

:cheer2:

[Toy Soldier]

Why do smilies make people so sensitive :skull:

Sometimes, people take little things very seriously. It's usually projection innit. Trying to control something silly like smilies on a forum because they feel like aspects of their real life are out of control.

[Cherie]

Desperately needed, the report button is abused, it’s basically become a ‘help me, I’m losing’ button

How do you know this, are you regularly infracted or something :shrug:

I do try to lift my finger off the red triangle for a few minutes each hour to give myself a break :laugh:

[Cherie]

Joke btw...:smug:

[Marsh.]

Sometimes, people take little things very seriously. It's usually projection innit. Trying to control something silly like smilies on a forum because they feel like aspects of their real life are out of control.

SPOT. ON.

It seems our very own hard bastard is actually a tad fragile.

[Brother Leon]

I think I’ve only ever used the report button once and that was only because it was double cowardly to be racist via PM. :laugh:

[Smithy]

SPOT. ON.

It seems our very own hard bastard is actually a tad fragile.

Like a... a... a snowflake?

[Marsh.]

Like a... a... a snowflake?

:hehe:

[Swan]

I find them quite pretentious at times, but not to the point where i see it as an issue. I rarely use them, but don't see them as a problem, so whatever.

[rusticgal]

How do you know this, are you regularly infracted or something :shrug:

I do try to lift my finger off the red triangle for a few minutes each hour to give myself a break :laugh:



:joker:.....I’ve only just noticed it’s there :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

Oh my look who be triggered

Oh come on LT, using the word "triggered" is down there with snowflake, SJW, gammon, woke, Karen ..

[rusticgal]

I didn’t go through the whole thread, just your posts hypocrite :hee:


You pretty much did lol...15 in total and 2 on the last page :laugh:...so you dragged yourself through some 12 pages :laugh:

.....and by the way that doesn’t make me a hypocrite silly.

[Amy Jade]

Why are people so bothered by little animated pictures?

[Glenn.]

You pretty much did lol...15 in total and 2 on the last page :laugh:...so you dragged yourself through some 12 pages :laugh:

.....and by the way that doesn’t make me a hypocrite silly.

No I didn’t...

[rusticgal]

No I didn’t...


Ok...:pat:...oops there I go again :laugh:

[jet]

You pretty much did lol...15 in total and 2 on the last page :laugh:...so you dragged yourself through some 12 pages :laugh:

.....and by the way that doesn’t make me a hypocrite silly.

:cheer2: :joker: :hehe:

[Toy Soldier]

"triggered", snowflake, SJW, gammon, woke, Karen ..

Somehow, all of these words apply to LT at the same time :think:. In that sense, he is unique.

[Glenn.]

Ok...:pat:...oops there I go again :laugh:

Someone clearly doesn’t know their way around TiBB :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

[thesheriff443]

Follow your own advice.

The forum isn't designed to suit you.

Or to suit you because look at your post count, you live on here.

[thesheriff443]

Why are people so bothered by little animated pictures?

Why can’t people post in a serious debate without the need to use childish smilies?

Don’t worry it’s only for serious debates you can still use in other sections of the forum.

[bots]

the thread creator can already choose not to allow smilies

https://i.imgur.com/r7QcRe2.png

[Ammi]

...I don’t understand how smilies can be thought of as unnecessary and/or offensive while bigoted/prejudice/hateful content is a matter of opinion and an opinion entitlement...smilies are never going to have an impact on anyone’s time or experience here because of their content...

[Cherie]

Yes sick of seeing :wavey: in there

Like a... a... a snowflake?

:omgno:

[Cherie]

the thread creator can already choose not to allow smilies

https://i.imgur.com/r7QcRe2.png

never knew that!

[Nicky91]

in light of honesty, and it being very much on topic

must admit i got told off once by Mods for using smilies in SD, since then i've not used them in here, not in the serious news that is anyway

in celeb news i still use them

[thesheriff443]

...I don’t understand how smilies can be thought of as unnecessary and/or offensive while bigoted/prejudice/hateful content is a matter of opinion and an opinion entitlement...smilies are never going to have an impact on anyone’s time or experience here because of their content...

Do you write a serious letter to someone then add a silly face at the end?

It’s the same members using the same words in a pack mentality that are throwing those accusations at other members.

The Meghan threads are full of those accusations aimed at the same people who in return and rightly so defend themselves and attacking those attacking them

Then we get the thread going off topic.

Are you saying mods and admin are allowing racism on the forum?

[Ammi]

...hmmmm, see with ‘pack mentality‘...I observe more than one ‘pack’...and as said yesterday in that specific thread, I don’t think that any higher ground can be taken...I think it’s less about focusing on how others post and more about how we do ourselves...all of us...

[joeysteele]

As a member for over 10 years I don't find the use of these things offensive myself.

I actually have had more difficulty in serious debates for being too serious and passionate in my statements.
Even getting an infraction for defending myself.
The one and only one I got in near 10 years on here at the time.

So in serious debates, I got punished for being serious and defending myself.
Which I'll always do as I've a right to.

I have no problem whatsoever with the use of smilies.

I think, the thing that's always really annoyed me on here.
Is the handclapping thing.

Even moreso when it's the only thing used with no wording, yet classed as a valid counted post too.

However, it happens, and I wouldn't call for it to be banned.

I guess I've posted most of my posts in serious debates in my time on here.
I am a serious person.
However in debates at Uni, and in my work matters too.
Humour can creep in to serious issues and speeches.

I don't find it offensive, so wouldn't support banning or punishing any members for using smilies.
It seems to me, that would perhaps create more division.

A bit more freedom, not control is the better order of the day for me.
We know those who annoy and irritate us on here.
We know if they respond to us, it will be likely mostly unpleasant.

I've learned to accept that myself now.
I don't care who'd now ridicule my posts.

Whether they use smilies or anything else.

As for the comments on reporting.
I wouldn't waste my time on here reporting or appealing anything because frankly I see no point.
You'd likely get nowhere.
As some faces fit on here and others don't.

This seems a thread designed to open up honesty from the point of the OP and who made it.
It's discussions like this, we need on here.
I've used in part this thread, to put my points across the board.
With no smilies.

In fact I rarely use anything on here other than words.
Usually criticised, at times rightly, for using too many words.

Perhaps, in fact, had I only used smilies, rather than defend myself, I'd still be infraction free after over 10 years.

[Cherie]

...hmmmm, see with ‘pack mentality‘...I observe more than one ‘pack’...and as said yesterday in that specific thread, I don’t think that any higher ground can be taken...I think it’s less about focusing on how others post and more about how we do ourselves...all of us...


It appears if anyone agrees with anyone on here they appear to be immediately assigned to a 'pack' so I guess you would also be in a 'pack' Ammi, not that you would want to be or even think you are but that is how some people view things on here

[Ammi]

...a pack mentality isn’t defined in any way whatsoever by having the same mindset on a topic, it’s specifically the more personal/goading/baiting/and applauding of etc remarks...

[Beso]

That’s because we can....I was just agreeing it might be a good idea..

How obsessive are you...you actually went through that whole thread to count my smilies.

He likes counting things on his little abacus.

[Beso]

Why do smilies make people so sensitive :skull:

Or lack of them, it's like some people need a smiley for reassurance when they read a post.

[Liam-]

...I don’t understand how smilies can be thought of as unnecessary and/or offensive while bigoted/prejudice/hateful content is a matter of opinion and an opinion entitlement...smilies are never going to have an impact on anyone’s time or experience here because of their content...

Because people like to read into things and assume what people mean when they use them, it’s quite sad really, sometimes a :love: is just a :love:

[Niamh.]

I'm going to close this now as it's just turning in to a thread to insult each other