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Please listen to this. This women who has gone viral on twitter, sums it up.
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The first nationwide clap was nice, a bit of gratitude, it was also just created by a member of the public with no relation to the government however after the government took hold of it hijacked it and made it a repetitive one week event. A brilliant distraction to cover up the horrendous lack of funding, the very late arrival of PPE, even when arrived it came faulty and still no vote on pay rise. The fact just speak for themselves 179 british armed forces died from the iraq war since 2003. While since March 182 frontline health workers have died from COVID... also Britain health care death toll is one of the worst affected in Europe.
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Liam-
07-07-2020, 08:56 AM
It’s purely for show, it did start off as a nice gesture but it quickly spiralled into a vanity project to make the public feel better about themselves imo and the governments role in it is completely disingenuous, hoping that if they’re spotted out clapping once in a while people will forget the absolute carnage they’ve created over the past 10 years for the NHS, the public are crying out for the NHS staff to be treated better than they are, the majority of people think the staff deserve a raise, even before the pandemic, but apparently they’re only work a clap for a minute each week, it’s utter nonsense and they shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it
Mystic Mock
07-07-2020, 09:00 AM
It’s purely for show, it did start off as a nice gesture but it quickly spiralled into a vanity project to make the public feel better about themselves imo and the governments role in it is completely disingenuous, hoping that if they’re spotted out clapping once in a while people will forget the absolute carnage they’ve created over the past 10 years for the NHS, the public are crying out for the NHS staff to be treated better than they are, the majority of people think the staff deserve a raise, even before the pandemic, but apparently they’re only work a clap for a minute each week, it’s utter nonsense and they shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it
This really.
user104658
07-07-2020, 10:01 AM
it did start off as a nice gesture
Nah ...
but it quickly spiralled into a vanity project to make the public feel better about themselves imo and the governments role in it is completely disingenuous
It was always this.
Liam-
07-07-2020, 10:05 AM
I think when it was organically done by the public the intention was good and the thought was nice, but it always seemed like a slap in the face when people who voted for the party responsible for the NHS decimation over the past decade were doing it, like they were helping, it quickly became very false and a competition between houses who could look better
joeysteele
07-07-2020, 10:20 AM
It’s purely for show, it did start off as a nice gesture but it quickly spiralled into a vanity project to make the public feel better about themselves imo and the governments role in it is completely disingenuous, hoping that if they’re spotted out clapping once in a while people will forget the absolute carnage they’ve created over the past 10 years for the NHS, the public are crying out for the NHS staff to be treated better than they are, the majority of people think the staff deserve a raise, even before the pandemic, but apparently they’re only work a clap for a minute each week, it’s utter nonsense and they shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it
Spot on all through.
Let's see some real recognition for those who have entered into danger, with no protection equipment.
Put money where it should be to give these people proper recognition for efforts over and above the call of their duty.
Never again to be treated like near irrelevant and scrimping to save pittances by limiting wage rises to them, or even cutting their numbers.
The Country has hopefully seen how things can change and these excellent staff needed to care for and save lives.
They've seen those care staff lose their lives too by lack of available and right protection equipment.
A massive amount more than just lip service and clapping is required now.
Tom4784
07-07-2020, 11:04 AM
Pretty much, I've said as much from the beginning, it was a meaningless gesture that the public did to make themselves look good on facebook while not doing anything to alleviate the problems that NHS faced. I know so many people that put on a show every thursday night but then broke lockdown at every possibility.
Clapping is pointless when you've voted to keep a government that is systematically destroying the NHS.
I saw someone say that wouldn't it be a great idea to all clap our MP's next year rather than give them an increase :hehe:
Crimson Dynamo
07-07-2020, 11:17 AM
Never heard or saw a single clap tbh
The Slim Reaper
07-07-2020, 11:25 AM
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joeysteele
07-07-2020, 11:44 AM
Sadly for Johnson.
No matter how they script him.
He still at times cannot hide his real thinking.
His comment, brings to mind, the tale of Nero fiddling while Rome burned.
He will look to shift blame to anyone but him and his government.
This comment, I could believe was deliberately made to test the water now as to blame levelling elsewhere.
This is possibly where his advisor/s are trying to go with this.
As to Hancock, not committing to raising wages of those in Care work.
That's no surprise.
How this master of deceit remains a Minister, never mind Health minister.
Should be beyond the understanding of all of decent thinking across the UK.
AnnieK
07-07-2020, 12:05 PM
Nah ...
It was always this.
I think that's quite unfair. Initially I believe people were in a state of shock at what was happening in the country, normal life had stopped and people were feeling lost and vulnerable and believed that the clap was their small way of showing gratitude. I agree it was hijacked and almost commercialised like everything is in this country and stopped being about anything other than Boris having an opportunity to stand and be filmed on the steps of Number 10.
user104658
07-07-2020, 12:32 PM
Initially I believe people were in a state of shock at what was happening in the country, normal life had stopped and people were feeling lost and vulnerable and believed that the clap was their small way of showing gratitude.
Yes but it was a small, meaningless token that was largely to alleviate those feelings of being lost, vulnerable and helpless. People mostly did it for their own peace of mind. When NHS workers commented that it was more like a slap in the face - that the GBP has been silently watching the government underfund and dismantle the NHS for years. That real appreciation could be shown by actually expecting the government to improve conditions and pay for NHS staff... no one was really interested. They just kept on clapping. Nothing will improve for NHS workers and those people will continue to vote the same.
The Judge.
07-07-2020, 01:00 PM
Alll hmmm keyworkers hmm played hmmm their part hmmm where was their hmm clap.....?
joeysteele
07-07-2020, 01:52 PM
I actually agree other keyworkers, usually the ones the government considered unskilled or only worthy of low pay.
Should have had acknowledgement for their continued efforts.
Like shopworkers for instance.
Delivery drivers.
Public transport workers.
The vital people needed to keep things going as safe and as best they could be.
A whole new rhetoric is needed towards all those key workers and not the usual dismissal of or looking down on their worth.
Absolutely, I'd agree with that.
Am I expecting the right response and recognition of them and the NHS and other Care staff too, from this government.
Not likely am I.
How I'd love to be proven wrong however I doubt I will.
There'll be lots of selective and guarded lip service of appreciation to them, I doubt much of anything else long term however.
Tom4784
07-07-2020, 02:34 PM
Speaking as someone who worked through the lockdown, I wouldn't want people clapping for me, I wanted them to actually adhere to the lockdown and not be vile to the people I worked with to such an extent that they were breaking down in the warehouse.
**** clapping, if you can't provide aid then just do your part in preventing the spread and don't treat people like **** who are risking their lives and families to make sure your day is as normal as possible.
GoldHeart
07-07-2020, 06:28 PM
:joker: I love how she describes it as "brain dead seals" , I've always found the whole thing contrived , hypocritical and all for show .
NHS needs proper support not just clapping :bored: . Boris never takes responsibility and he enjoys shifting the blame.
Speaking as someone who has risked thier lives on a daily basis to make the London populations lockdown more tolerable...I say, clap you ****ers..clap like Marco sabas.
The Judge.
07-07-2020, 09:40 PM
Speaking as someone who has risked thier lives on a daily basis to make the London populations lockdown more tolerable...I say, clap you ****ers..clap like Marco sabas.I HMMM too risked my life HMMM but I shall say no more, HMMM the Judge believes the general public HMMM all played a role HMMM for the most part.
Kizzy
08-07-2020, 05:42 AM
Please listen to this. This women who has gone viral on twitter, sums it up.
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The first nationwide clap was nice, a bit of gratitude, it was also just created by a member of the public with no relation to the government however after the government took hold of it hijacked it and made it a repetitive one week event. A brilliant distraction to cover up the horrendous lack of funding, the very late arrival of PPE, even when arrived it came faulty and still no vote on pay rise. The fact just speak for themselves 179 british armed forces died from the iraq war since 2003. While since March 182 frontline health workers have died from COVID... also Britain health care death toll is one of the worst affected in Europe.
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This speech is fantastic!!!! It made my week...no, month actually. Thank **** for people like her who see straight through all the bull. Straight talking, northern lass she's 100% bob on there.
Cherie
08-07-2020, 07:11 AM
Free parking for NHS staff made available during the Covid crises is to be scrapped
PMQs will be interesting
Dogeatdog
08-07-2020, 01:17 PM
Free parking for NHS staff made available during the Covid crises is to be scrapped
PMQs will be interesting
I find this so disgraceful tbh. No compassion whatsoever from the government, the NHS deserve a lot more than free parking in my opinion but yet this is now being taken away from them? Disgusting.
caprimint
08-07-2020, 01:18 PM
I'll never understand how clapping can get people going so much
Crimson Dynamo
08-07-2020, 01:31 PM
What is the "fact " about the war dead meant to mean?
Tom4784
08-07-2020, 03:18 PM
I'll never understand how clapping can get people going so much
Because it's an exercise in vanity that doesn't benefit anyone, least of all the NHS staff. It's just people trying to outdo their neighbours and chase clout on the socials.
Because it's an exercise in vanity that doesn't benefit anyone, least of all the NHS staff. It's just people trying to outdo their neighbours and chase clout on the socials.
Absolute garbage..
The clapping gave everyone a focus whilst we were in the strictest lockdown, it made people happy and brought communities together, I think you have muddled up clapping with xmas decorations in the garden.
Tom4784
08-07-2020, 04:04 PM
The clapping did nothing but fuel delusions that people were balancing the scales for when they treated the lockdown like a joke and flouted it at every opportunity they got. It didn't unify jack****, it did absolutely nothing.
It's just virtue signalling bull****, it's reducing the NHS as a prop to show off how good and kind you are on Twitter and Facebook. All the while the government that these clapping morons voted in is carrying on the destruction of the NHS and making out that the claps are good compensation for the sacrifices made by NHS staff.
The NHS didn't need the country to clap, they needed them to stay indoors, watch a bit of Netflix and adhere to the ****ing lockdown. Nothing more, nothing less but no, that was too difficult so they got a useless gesture instead.
caprimint
08-07-2020, 04:07 PM
Because it's an exercise in vanity that doesn't benefit anyone, least of all the NHS staff. It's just people trying to outdo their neighbours and chase clout on the socials.
Why do you care so much about what other people do though :shrug:
Tom4784
08-07-2020, 04:13 PM
Why do you care so much about what other people do though :shrug:
Because now, after all their sacrifices, NHS workers are pretty much expected to accept meaningless and empty gestures as the thanks they get while their work is undone by morons who think it's all over when it isn't.
Absolute garbage..
The clapping gave everyone a focus whilst we were in the strictest lockdown, it made people happy and brought communities together, I think you have muddled up clapping with xmas decorations in the garden.
You’ve just summed it up, it brought people together. Didn’t help the NHS one bit though. Did the claps give them prober PPE? Give them a deserved pay rise?
I felt the first clap which was organised by an ordinary person was sweet. However it was hijacked by the government to hide that they’re in fact not showing support to the health care sector at all.
Marsh.
08-07-2020, 04:26 PM
Absolute garbage..
The clapping gave everyone a focus whilst we were in the strictest lockdown, it made people happy and brought communities together, I think you have muddled up clapping with xmas decorations in the garden.
Focus?
Cherie
08-07-2020, 04:28 PM
The first clap was fine, but when it got to people gathering on Westminster Bridge to clap and ITV trying to guilt people into donating cash it was a no from me
Did they ever reveal how much the collected?
Cherie
08-07-2020, 04:29 PM
You’ve just summed it up, it brought people together. Didn’t help the NHS one bit though. Did the claps give them prober PPE? Give them a deserved pay rise?
I felt the first clap which was organised by an ordinary person was sweet. However it was hijacked by the government to hide that they’re in fact not showing support to the health care sector at all.
It was hijacked by the media more to the point
Marsh.
08-07-2020, 04:43 PM
The first clap was fine, but when it got to people gathering on Westminster Bridge to clap and ITV trying to guilt people into donating cash it was a no from me
Did they ever reveal how much the collected?
Don't know but Boris showed off his new jet not long after. :think:
Cherie
08-07-2020, 07:14 PM
Don't know but Boris showed off his new jet not long after. :think:
:laugh:
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