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Calderyon
07-07-2020, 09:09 PM
TikTok: Chinese app may be banned in US, says Pompeo
By James Clayton
North America technology reporter
9 hours ago
Mike Pompeo: "It's something we're looking at"
Would you recommend downloading TikTok? Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was asked that question on Monday night on Fox News.
"Only if you want your private information in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party," he replied.
Asked if he would ban Chinese apps - including TikTok - he said: "I don't want to get out in front of the president, but it's something we're looking at".
That is a very worrying statement for TikTok.
The huge Chinese social media company has experienced phenomenal growth in the last three years. It's been downloaded more than two billion times.
But around the world, and not just in the US, TikTok is facing a backlash.
It's finding out the hard way that being international, a tech company, and Chinese isn't a great combination right now.
By far its largest market, India, banned TikTok last week, along with 58 other Chinese apps.
Officially security concerns were given as the reason, but that isn't the whole story.
Two weeks before, a border skirmish on India's northern frontier with China left 20 Indian soldiers dead. It's not known how many Chinese troops were killed.
The fighting was said to be gruesome, hand-to-hand combat.
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Anti-China protests have grown in India in recent weeks
Thousands of miles away, Mr Pompeo said he welcomed India's move to ban the apps. They "serve as appendages of the Chinese Communist Party's surveillance state", he said.
It was a pretty extraordinary statement that flew relatively under the radar. The US government had congratulated the banning of TikTok in another country.
"Good to see India ban 59 popular apps owned by Chinese firm," tweeted Nikki Haley, the former US ambassador to the United Nations.
Much of this can be linked to Huawei, says James Sullivan, head of cyber research at British security think-tank Rusi.
"Huawei is the test case," he says. "It's probably the start of a trend in the West where sanctions will seek to squeeze, or even sink, large Chinese tech companies"
Distance from China
That has made TikTok extremely nervous, and explains its energetic and painstaking attempts to distance itself from China.
Monday saw TikTok announce it would quit Hong Kong "within days" after a new National Security Law was brought in.
The announcement came after Twitter, Facebook and WhatsApp said they would not hand over data to the Hong Kong government.
This was more than a statement from TikTok though - it was a grand gesture. A clear neon-lit sign that says: "TikTok is not close to the Chinese government."
It's a strategy TikTok has been following for quite some time.
Earlier this year it hired an American chief executive, Kevin Mayer.
TikTok is also keen to play up the localised nature of the platform, highlighting its big offices in places like London and Los Angeles.
'We would not comply'
TikTok also says it would never share data with China.
On Friday, Mr Mayer wrote a letter to the Indian government.
"I can confirm that the Chinese government has never made a request to us for the TikTok data of Indian users," he said.
"If we do ever receive such a request in the future, we would not comply."
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But it hasn't won over the doubters.
"TikTok must go and it should have been gone yesterday," tweeted one Republican congressman last week following the Indian ban. This is not an uncommon view in the party.
"It is an incredibly difficult moment for the Chinese tech companies," says Dr Yu Jie from internal relations think-tank Chatham House.
"Ultimately, all of these Chinese companies would wish to set up a foothold in the US and Europe. But they've been caught up in global geo-political rivalry."
Already the sharks are circling. Facebook is pushing its Instagram Reels feature , which lets you post fun 15-second videos, in India and elsewhere. Sound familiar?
Indian companies with similar platforms to TikTok have seen a spike in downloads since the ban.
TikTok is not Huawei. It's not building the infrastructure of 5G - it's a social media company.
But its links to China means that they are often mentioned in the same breath.
In his interview with Fox News, Mr Pompeo made the direct comparison between TikTok and Huawei.
"With respect to Chinese apps on peoples' cellphones, I can assure you the US will get this right too," he said.
James Sullivan of Rusi believes security issues need to be looked at separately to actions based on sanctioning China.
"There are technical security concerns with companies like Huawei, but they shouldn't be conflated with sanctions that are based around Chinese foreign policy decisions," he said.
Hurting China
That is India's TikTok ban in a nutshell. A decision that is officially based around security which is also designed to punish China.
It's also pretty clear that the US is looking to hurt China too, and focusing on its tech sector could be a lever it decides to pull.
Chinese companies like Tencent - one of the world's largest gaming companies - and Alibaba will also be worried.
But it's TikTok that is now fighting for its life. Frozen out of its biggest market, India, it now faces the prospect of losing the US - another huge market for the company.
And hostility is picking up in other countries too. In Australia on Monday, the deputy chairman of the foreign Interference through social media inquiry, said TikTok might be "a data collection service disguised as social media".
"We have no higher priority than promoting a safe and secure app experience for our users. We have never provided user data to the Chinese government, nor would we do so if asked," TikTok said in a statement to Reuters news agency.
TikTok may be designed for fun and laughter, but there are politicians who are deadly serious about banning the app. As long as China and the West's relationship remains frosty, that's unlikely to change.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53319955
Moniqua
07-07-2020, 09:18 PM
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Liam-
07-07-2020, 09:31 PM
Trump is mad he got trolled by TikTok teens so I’m not surprised
Trump is mad he got trolled by TikTok teens so I’m not surprised
Republicans and Democrats are on the same page on this one...national security comes first for both parties and all future presidents.
Even uncle kanye.
Kazanne
07-07-2020, 09:36 PM
Tik tok is a haven for animal cruelty videos ,Ide be happy for it to be banned, some morons think they are funny
https://www.medicaldaily.com/tiktok-becoming-new-platform-animal-abuse-450103
Denver
07-07-2020, 10:22 PM
Tik tok is a haven for animal cruelty videos ,Ide be happy for it to be banned, some morons think they are funny
Yes let's punish everyone for the actions of a few
Marsh.
07-07-2020, 10:24 PM
Tik tok is a haven for animal cruelty videos ,Ide be happy for it to be banned, some morons think they are funny
If you're banning websites, apps, devices, services for misuse by a few morons then there's not much left, if anything at all.
Barry.
07-07-2020, 10:29 PM
Tik tok is a haven for animal cruelty videos ,Ide be happy for it to be banned, some morons think they are funny
So does YouTube sometimes so I say ban the people and fined them not the site.
Tom4784
08-07-2020, 03:10 AM
The app is basically malware, from what I've heard.
Mystic Mock
08-07-2020, 03:14 AM
Trump is mad he got trolled by TikTok teens so I’m not surprised
Tbf it is a sensible decision to weaken China's stronghold on the Economy to some extent as they've been getting too cocky lately.
And personally I wouldn't put anything past the Chinese Government.
JerseyWins
08-07-2020, 07:16 AM
Good
Idc to find out why it's getting banned, just ban it
caprimint
08-07-2020, 07:22 AM
They should ban it in the UK as well
Kazanne
08-07-2020, 08:17 AM
So does YouTube sometimes so I say ban the people and fined them not the site.
Yes that's a better idea tbh,
Kazanne
08-07-2020, 08:19 AM
Yes let's punish everyone for the actions of a few
Well Im more concerned about the animals than people getting their jollies off by abuse, ,but Barry has the best idea ,fine the people and ban them, same for all other sites.
Nicky91
08-07-2020, 08:33 AM
They should ban it in the UK as well
they shouldn't ban it at all, this PC world becomes way more stupid by the day
Marsh.
08-07-2020, 09:06 AM
they shouldn't ban it at all, this PC world becomes way more stupid by the day
What is "PC" about it? Do you even know what the term means?
Nicky91
08-07-2020, 09:11 AM
What is "PC" about it? Do you even know what the term means?
yes taking away freedom of speech falls under that PC either
just sharpen the rules and not allowing any ''animal cruelty'' content anymore, but keep the platform for those who can use it for fun purposes
arista
08-07-2020, 09:14 AM
Tik Tok
has had to leave Hong Kong
not wanting to upset China etc.
Marsh.
08-07-2020, 09:17 AM
yes taking away freedom of speech falls under that PC either
just sharpen the rules and not allowing any ''animal cruelty'' content anymore, but keep the platform for those who can use it for fun purposes
Erm... it doesn't have anything to do with animal cruelty.
Even if it did, animal cruelty is not free speech wtf. :umm2:
Nicky91
08-07-2020, 10:40 AM
correct Marsh, but do you understand my point otherwise?
if they put a rule like, only appropriate fun content, more stricter rules on usage of that platform, i don't see a problem with it
given how other social media's already are doing so, like Facebook gonna remove loads more hate content now, same how twitter has stricter rules than before too
Marsh.
08-07-2020, 10:46 AM
correct Marsh, but do you understand my point otherwise?
if they put a rule like, only appropriate fun content, more stricter rules on usage of that platform, i don't see a problem with it
given how other social media's already are doing so, like Facebook gonna remove loads more hate content now, same how twitter has stricter rules than before too
From what I understand the content of the app is not the issue.
Calderyon
08-07-2020, 11:02 AM
India already banned TikTok before along with 59 of other apps owned by a Chinese based company:
https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/29/india-bans-tiktok-dozens-of-other-chinese-apps/
The Slim Reaper
08-07-2020, 11:03 AM
This would be devastating to Arista's eboy career.
Nicky91
08-07-2020, 12:04 PM
TikTok officials themselves say they never shared any private information with chinese government
TikTok's intentions are for fun and laughter only
Tom4784
08-07-2020, 12:17 PM
I remember reading that someone had reversed engineered the app and it was filled with **** to track everything on your phone.
It's quite naive and gullible to believe that a chinese owned property is not being compelled by the government to share it's data with them.
TikTok should be banned.
user104658
08-07-2020, 12:40 PM
Propaganda because its Chinese to be honest,same as the accusations against Huawei. This is 100% political and essentially a trade sanction, it has nothing to do with data protection.
Now... Being generally pro-sanctions against China is a perfectly valid choice, but call it what it is, rather than pretending that China is out to "hack da planet!!" by harvesting data from the phones of 15 year olds. Can you imagine anything more mind-numbing.
*in a bunker somewhere in the Chinese wilderness, a spectacled Chinese IT specialist makes a call*
"Mr President... I have most important information to share. Suzie kissed Robbie with tongues but JUST LAST WEEK she said she was going exclusive with John. Yes Mr President. I understand. We will continue to monitor the situation. I can tell you that, so far, both Heather and Julia are shook."
Vanessa
08-07-2020, 12:43 PM
I don't use it, so I'm not too fussed either way.
Denver
08-07-2020, 12:57 PM
Maybe they should ban all of Zuckerberg apps seeing as the deal he has with Trump
Tik tok is a haven for animal cruelty videos ,Ide be happy for it to be banned, some morons think they are funny
https://www.medicaldaily.com/tiktok-becoming-new-platform-animal-abuse-450103
Animal cruelty ?!?
Please explain ..
I’ve seen quite a few animals clips but they’ve all been really heartwarming ones or ones showing amazingly clever animals
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So does YouTube sometimes so I say ban the people and fined them not the site.
Exactly !!
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The app is basically malware, from what I've heard.
I’ve had zero issues ...
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I remember reading that someone had reversed engineered the app and it was filled with **** to track everything on your phone.
It's quite naive and gullible to believe that a chinese owned property is not being compelled by the government to share it's data with them.
TikTok should be banned.
Sounds like another conspiracy theory tbh
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Propaganda because its Chinese to be honest,same as the accusations against Huawei. This is 100% political and essentially a trade sanction, it has nothing to do with data protection.
Now... Being generally pro-sanctions against China is a perfectly valid choice, but call it what it is, rather than pretending that China is out to "hack da planet!!" by harvesting data from the phones of 15 year olds. Can you imagine anything more mind-numbing.
*in a bunker somewhere in the Chinese wilderness, a spectacled Chinese IT specialist makes a call*
"Mr President... I have most important information to share. Suzie kissed Robbie with tongues but JUST LAST WEEK she said she was going exclusive with John. Yes Mr President. I understand. We will continue to monitor the situation. I can tell you that, so far, both Heather and Julia are shook."
This ^^^^^
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arista
19-07-2020, 12:57 AM
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arista
20-07-2020, 06:53 PM
USA Secretary Pompeo’s Travel to the U.K.
he will advise the UK to Shut Down Tik Tok.
He is on his way.
Tik Tok is banned in India.
The Slim Reaper
20-07-2020, 06:58 PM
USA Secretary Pompeo’s Travel to the U.K.
he will advise the UK to Shut Down Tik Tok.
He is on his way.
Tik Tok is banned in India.
Why is he coming to tell us this? I'll never use tik tok, but it's none of his god damned business.
arista
20-07-2020, 07:07 PM
Why is he coming to tell us this? I'll never use tik tok, but it's none of his god damned business.
To thank the UK for Stopping Huawei
arista
21-07-2020, 04:10 PM
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USA Secretary Pompeo’s Travel to the U.K.
he will advise the UK to Shut Down Tik Tok.
He is on his way.
Tik Tok is banned in India.
Thank gawd for VPNs ;)
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user104658
21-07-2020, 09:04 PM
Thank gawd for VPNs ;)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProIf it's shut down in the UK and the US then there'll be nothing to watch on it anyway. It'll probably shut down or go Asia-only.
If it's shut down in the UK and the US then there'll be nothing to watch on it anyway. It'll probably shut down or go Asia-only.
Then a similar one will just fill the vacuum ?
Didn’t TicToc more or less replace Vine ??
I’m no expert by any means but couldn’t all the parties/participants just use a VPN to upload and view clips ?
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Liam-
21-07-2020, 09:21 PM
Trump and his cronies didn’t care about TikTok until they got dunked on by its users, they’re so transparent it’s pitiful
arista
30-07-2020, 01:58 AM
Trump and his cronies didn’t care about TikTok until they got dunked on by its users, they’re so transparent it’s pitiful
Also Biden wants TikTok banned.
Donald Trump says he is looking at BANNING TikTok
amid fears it can be used by
China to spy - and after Joe Biden's campaign staff are told to delete it
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8572565/Donald-Trump-says-looking-BANNING-TikTok.html
arista
01-08-2020, 06:02 AM
Times Radio DAB
just reported
Breaking News
Trump to sign an order to ban TikTok,
in USA.
arista
01-08-2020, 06:30 AM
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Trump and his cronies didn’t care about TikTok until they got dunked on by its users, they’re so transparent it’s pitiful
So what’s happened suddenly to spark this decision from Trump ??
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Denver
01-08-2020, 01:08 PM
So its being banned today in the States
Denver
01-08-2020, 01:10 PM
Microsoft is trying to buy it though
Liam-
01-08-2020, 01:28 PM
So what’s happened suddenly to spark this decision from Trump ??
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People on there trolled his rally, people have gotten famous on there by mocking him, he doesn’t like that people on there don’t like him me they openly make fun of him, he’s a big baby
People on there trolled his rally, people have gotten famous on there by mocking him, he doesn’t like that people on there don’t like him me they openly make fun of him, he’s a big baby
Im not defending him, but he gets mocked on every daily tv show, on every social media platform going, what makes TikTok so special?
Nicky91
01-08-2020, 01:47 PM
So its being banned today in the States
all those tiktok stars now without fame, need to go find real work lol
Cherie
01-08-2020, 01:48 PM
Im not defending him, but he gets mocked on every daily tv show, on every social media platform going, what makes TikTok so special?
It’s a Chinese app
It’s a Chinese app
Fair enough :laugh:
Nicky91
01-08-2020, 01:52 PM
next up instagram to be banned in USA pls
Captain.Remy
01-08-2020, 02:37 PM
next up instagram to be banned in USA pls
And why not in the Netherlands first though? Mind your business lmao
Captain.Remy
01-08-2020, 02:42 PM
I've read a lot of people say "at least the Chinese government won't have their address"
But like, do they think other social media platforms don't sell data to them already? k then buddy....
The Slim Reaper
01-08-2020, 03:09 PM
He's still pissed about his Tulsa rally. :laugh:
Nicky91
01-08-2020, 03:37 PM
And why not in the Netherlands first though? Mind your business lmao
because we don't do such silly stuff here, everyone has rights to use social media platforms here
UserSince2005
01-08-2020, 03:43 PM
tbh i prefered when i first downloaded it in December 2018 and it was just weird chinese videos.
Captain.Remy
01-08-2020, 04:05 PM
because we don't do such silly stuff here, everyone has rights to use social media platforms here
Everybody has rights to use social media platforms everywhere. That doesn't make the Netherlands any better. And trust there are foolish content in your country too, just like in every country.
People on there trolled his rally, people have gotten famous on there by mocking him, he doesn’t like that people on there don’t like him me they openly make fun of him, he’s a big baby
Every tv Chat show mocks Trump though ..
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Sooooo let’s say the UK also ban TicToc will all the existing videos/clips still be accessible but new ones won’t appear or will it all be inaccessible ??
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Denver
01-08-2020, 05:48 PM
I've read a lot of people say "at least the Chinese government won't have their address"
But like, do they think other social media platforms don't sell data to them already? k then buddy....
He can't control Tik Tok like he does Facebook
Denver
01-08-2020, 06:01 PM
Banning Tik Tok so close to the election could cause a riptide if the youth decide to punish him in the voting
Denver
01-08-2020, 06:01 PM
also he bans tik toks but not guns like which one is more dangerous to everyday Americans?
Captain.Remy
01-08-2020, 06:17 PM
also he bans tik toks but not guns like which one is more dangerous to everyday Americans?
EXACTLY :joker: He really can't read the room can he...
Tom4784
01-08-2020, 06:34 PM
Tik Tok should be treated with suspicion but this decision is prompted mainly because he got dunked on by a bunch of teenagers on Tik Tok.
arista
01-08-2020, 10:00 PM
[TikTok scrambles to find a buyer
for its US arm to placate Trump after he threatened
to ban the Chinese app as it's defiant manager
says 'we're not planning on going anywhere'
and 'stand with TikTok']
[Under ByteDance's new proposal,
Microsoft will be in charge of protecting
all U.S. user data, the sources said.
The plan allows for another U.S. company other than Microsoft
to take over TikTok in the United States, the sources added.
Microsoft did not respond to a request for comment.]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8583509/TikToks-general-manager-says-service-isnt-going-anywhere.html
The Slim Reaper
01-08-2020, 10:01 PM
The US tik took kids are signing up as community volunteers for the trump campaign, so they send them boxes of trump merch for free, then they're just going to burn it all, which I thought was both admirably petty and pretty funny.
user104658
01-08-2020, 11:52 PM
If it isn't bought, it'll be very quickly replaced with a US or Europe based clone. It's pretty massive at this point.
If it isn't bought, it'll be very quickly replaced with a US or Europe based clone. It's pretty massive at this point.
Microsoft are supposedly very interested ..
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user104658
02-08-2020, 12:19 PM
Microsoft are supposedly very interested ..
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProYet Trump is still seeking to block it, which pretty much confirms that him wanting TikTok gone is less about China and security concerns, and more about "punishing" teenagers for embarrassing him at that rally when they all bought tickets and burned them. Such a sad, petty little man. He will literally ban an app that millions of people use, and destroy a private company, in revenge for a slight on his ego. Really scary stuff.
Denver
02-08-2020, 03:38 PM
Yet Trump is still seeking to block it, which pretty much confirms that him wanting TikTok gone is less about China and security concerns, and more about "punishing" teenagers for embarrassing him at that rally when they all bought tickets and burned them. Such a sad, petty little man. He will literally ban an app that millions of people use, and destroy a private company, in revenge for a slight on his ego. Really scary stuff.
It could be legally overturned if proved he has banned it out of his own agenda rather than security reasons
JerseyWins
02-08-2020, 07:16 PM
Trump's TikTok banning to win him the next election
JerseyWins
02-08-2020, 07:20 PM
So its being banned today in the States
Wait it's not banned yet tho? One of my friends was just getting shown a tiktok from his little brother like an hour ago
Is it in progress or something?
Liam-
02-08-2020, 07:26 PM
I don’t actually think he has the power to ban it?
user104658
03-08-2020, 11:53 AM
I don’t actually think he has the power to ban it?He could theoretically make an executive order on the grounds of national security but there are rumours that it's mostly hot air aimed at essentially forcing the company to fully sell the Western branch of it to a US-based company.
arista
03-08-2020, 02:33 PM
President Trump gives Microsoft 45 days to buy the USA TikTok.
Denver
03-08-2020, 02:38 PM
Apparently the UK has given permission for a Tik Tok HQ in London which will likely anger Trump
arista
03-08-2020, 02:38 PM
[TikTok 'will open a London HQ after move is approved by ministers'
risking major row with Donald Trump over Chinese app]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8587015/TikTok-open-London-HQ-approved-ministers-risking-major-row-Donald-Trump.html
user104658
03-08-2020, 03:29 PM
In theory the company could make a fortune here; if they sell the entire company to Microsoft they can then immediately re-launch a clone in China, and the CCP will only allow that version since they're against western Social Media use within China. Patents etc. aren't even an issue because the Chinese gov doesn't give a **** about Chinese companies cloning western stuff for domestic use.
Apparently the UK has given permission for a Tik Tok HQ in London which will likely anger Trump
Wonderful news .. if correct
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arista
05-08-2020, 12:52 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/159BF/production/_113811588_ft.jpg
Captain.Remy
05-08-2020, 10:47 AM
https://twitter.com/thebaristatwink/status/1289588002256113664?s=20
arista
06-08-2020, 12:18 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eeo6OsBWsAAv5UE?format=jpg&name=900x900
Denver
06-08-2020, 04:03 PM
Reports are sayijg Microsoft are close to buying the whole of Tik Tok for £30b after they decided they wanted all global control
arista
06-08-2020, 09:40 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/NGFm9mBDi2lHul785yFphA/https/media.fyre.co/lfcJhZIvQ2SnsY2mnNUv_fridayspapersft.JPG
They have 45 days before they ar stuffed
arista
27-08-2020, 02:08 PM
TikTok boss quits as Trump's ban looms
[TikTok chief executive Kevin Mayer
has quit after just two months in the
job ahead of an impending ban by
US President Donald Trump.]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53927989
[The Chinese-owned firm has been
accused of being a threat to US national security
by the Trump administration.
Mr Mayer joined TikTok in June after leaving his
role as Disney's head of streaming services.]
Getting out before it sinks
arista
29-08-2020, 11:21 PM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/A381/production/_114175814_sunday-people_.jpg
arista
11-09-2020, 03:52 AM
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arista
11-09-2020, 04:07 AM
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4 days to go.
arista
14-09-2020, 09:19 AM
[Oracle wins bid to buy TikTok's US operation
after the Chinese app
rejected Microsoft - ahead of Trump's deadline]
One day to go.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8729211/Oracle-wins-bidding-TikToks-operations.html
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/14/01/33140968-8729211-image-a-12_1600041792458.jpg
user104658
14-09-2020, 11:22 AM
Last month, Trump threw his support behind Oracle buying TikTok and called them a 'great company'.
'I think that Oracle would be certainly somebody that could handle it,' he said
Trump supporter Larry Ellison co-founded Oracle Corporation in 1977 with Bob Miner and Ed Oates. It now has 136,000 employees.
In February 2020, Ellison hosted a Trump fundraiser at his Rancho Mirage home where tickets cost up to $250,000 to attend.
Sigh.
Tom4784
14-09-2020, 12:54 PM
Oh look, another business deal, prompted by the government that benefits Trump.
ArgyESC
14-09-2020, 04:07 PM
TiK ToK, on the clock, but the party don't stop.
arista
14-09-2020, 11:09 PM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/59B7/production/_114376922_ft.jpg
arista
20-09-2020, 05:51 AM
Trump has Now agreed the USA Tik Tok deal.
Bought by Oracle & Walmart.
James
01-07-2022, 08:38 AM
US regulator wants TikTok banned from Apple and Google app stores over spying concerns
A top official at the US communications regulator is urging Apple and Google to kick TikTok out of their app stores over data security concerns.
By Euronews with Reuters • Updated: 30/06/2022 - 17:32
Brendan Carr, a Republican member of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), has written a letter to the chief executives of both companies saying that the wildly popular video-sharing app has collected vast troves of sensitive data about US users that could be accessed by staff at ByteDance, TikTok's Chinese parent.
Carr tweeted details of the letter, dated June 24 and sent on FCC letterhead.
"TikTok is not just another video app. That's the sheep's clothing," Carr said on Twitter. "It harvests swaths of sensitive data that new reports show are being accessed in Beijing".
Carr said this made TikTok non-compliant with Apple's and Google's app store policies, and he asked the companies to either remove it from their app stores by July 8 or explain to him why they did not plan to do so.
A TikTok spokeswoman said the company's engineers in locations outside of the United States, including China, can be granted access to US user data "on an as-needed basis" and under "strict controls."
Google declined to comment on Carr's letter, while Apple did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
TikTok has in recent years been under regulatory scrutiny over its collection of US personal data.
The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), which reviews deals by foreign acquirers for potential national security risks, ordered ByteDance in 2020 to divest TikTok because of fears that US user data could be passed on to China's communist government.
Former US president Donald Trump repeatedly lashed out at the company and even tried to ban TikTok via executive order, but the move faced a series of legal challenges and was ultimately revoked by his successor Joe Biden.
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Carr’s letter cited a recent BuzzFeed News report, according to which recordings of TikTok employee statements showed engineers in mainland China had repeatedly accessed non-public data on US users.
"It is clear that TikTok poses an unacceptable national security risk due to its extensive data harvesting being combined with Beijing's apparently unchecked access to that sensitive data," Carr's letter read.
TikTok announced earlier this month that it plans "to delete US users' private data from our own data centres and fully pivot to Oracle cloud servers located in the US".
"What we're seeing here from Commissioner Carr is a suggestion that at least some parts of the US government don't think that this is enough," Richard Sofield, a national security partner at law firm Vinson & Elkins LLP, said of TikTok's partnership with Oracle.
Carr's request is unusual given that the FCC does not have clear jurisdiction over the content of app stores.
The FCC usually regulates the national security space through its authority to grant certain communications licenses to companies.
https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/06/30/us-regulator-wants-tiktok-banned-from-apple-and-google-app-stores-over-spying-concerns
It was reported a while ago that they could read people's clipboards on their devices. :umm2:
i've never installed tik tok, seems that was wise
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