Tommy Robinson is moving to Spain despite spending his life hating refugees

[Denver]

so his whole life he has hated anyone who isn't British living here now he is running away to another county, am I the only one who finds this sorry piece of **** funny? Like does he even have a brain or what? Now is the time to make him Staeless

[Niamh.]

Oh he'll be an "expat" though not an immigrant :hehe:

[Liam-]

Wonder if he’ll learn the language like he expects everyone who comes here to do

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sigh

How dare an arson attempt to kill his children cloud his judgement so...

[Kizzy]

Sigh

How dare an arson attempt to kill his children cloud his judgement so...

Isn't that the reason refugees come here..they're kids are getting blown to bits?
Where was the hand wringing then, fact is he's not seen as an immigrant because he's white.

Let's be real.

[Oliver_W]

If he wants to disappear and never be heard from again, let him. He'll always be a thug and will probably be arrested for getting in scraps before long.

But I always thought he was against islamic immigration due to the culture they bring, rather than immigration in general?

[The Slim Reaper]

Isn't that the reason refugees come here..their kids are getting blown to bits?
Where was the hand wringing then, fact is he's not seen as an immigrant because he's white.

Let's be real.

Game, set, and match Miss Kizzy. 6 love, 6 love, 6 love.

[UserSince2005]

I guess you just have to weigh up how much you love the sun vs how much you hate foreigners.

[joeysteele]

Good riddance, wherever he goes.

[Scarlett.]

I hope he knows you can still be arrested for assaulting people over there too.

[Cherie]

Game, set, and match Miss Kizzy. 6 love, 6 love, 6 love.

Not all immigrants I came for economic reasons and to further the cause :hehe:

Bad time for him to be moving, he might struggle to get residency

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I wish he was moving to australia instead because there’s more chance of him getting stung by a scorpion or somn and dying

[The Slim Reaper]

Not all immigrants I came for economic reasons and to further the cause :hehe:

Bad time for him to be moving, he might struggle to get residency

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Him going to the land of the moors is

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[Mitchell]

But I thought he hated the EU...

[Swan]

Would have preferred Hopkins to piss off, but oh well.

[Cherie]

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Him going to the land of the moors is

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Mise..love it :laugh:

[Tom4784]

I've known a few people to be anti-immigration only to emigrate to Europe while still holding those same views. Stupidity, hypocrisy, racism and white privilege rolled into one hideous package.

I recall a neighbour who moved to Spain and I remember her saying often that she would just stick to the 'english' areas rather than learn the language and she was the kind of woman to yell at people to speak english 'because they were in England' if she heard them speak any other language.

Ultimately, these kind of people only have an issue with non-white immigrants (outside of Eastern europeans, obviously). Pure racism.

[arista]

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Not Muslims
that's good news

[The Slim Reaper]

Not Muslims
that's good news

What does that mean?

[arista]

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[arista]

What does that mean?


He has been fighting Muslims
for years.


It was BLM , he thinks

[Cherie]

Oh he was an ardent Brexiteer :joker:

[arista]

Oh he was an ardent Brexiteer :joker:

But he has done it
to keep his kids safe
from Arson Attack on his house

[arista]

If he wants to disappear and never be heard from again, let him. He'll always be a thug and will probably be arrested for getting in scraps before long.

But I always thought he was against islamic immigration due to the culture they bring, rather than immigration in general?



No they will him Live on a Big Screen
in England.

[The Slim Reaper]

I would put money on him having done it himself, so he could fundraise off it and set up his new life.

[Samm]

this country has just become slightly more better

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[arista]

I wish he was moving to Australia instead because there’s more chance of him getting stung by a scorpion or somn and dying

He may get Covid-19

[arista]

I would put money on him having done it himself, so he could fundraise off it and set up his new life.


But he will have it on Video.

[Mitchell]

He’s supposedly on bail for assault... so shouldn’t be in Spain regardless

[The Slim Reaper]

But he will have it on Video.

So? Didn't he also say he had video of a dude trying to touch up his daughter in the swimming pool, as an excuse for attacking him?

[arista]

So? Didn't he also say he had video of a dude trying to touch up his daughter in the swimming pool, as an excuse for attacking him?


Who cares

[arista]

He’s supposedly on bail for assault... so shouldn’t be in Spain regardless


Maybe that's why he Drove.

[The Slim Reaper]

Who cares

:joker:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Who cares

Dhjgfhh

[arista]

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[arista]

Dhjgfhh

Talk English
Scott


This Section is Not
Chat and Games

[Liam-]

Talk English
Scott

Tommy would be proud

[Ammi]

...the reports are all that the alleged arson attack was on his wife’s property...so they’re not together then but he’s living with them in Spain..?...or they are together and his wife has another property that they weren’t living in ...?...

[Swan]

...the reports are all that the alleged arson attack was on his wife’s property...so they’re not together then but he’s living with them in Spain..?...or they are together and his wife has another property that they weren’t living in ...?...

Maybe they own a property each. Im not arsed about him, but whoever did this shouldn't go after his kids, why not just go after him?!

[Ammi]

Maybe they own a property each. Im not arsed about him, but whoever did this shouldn't go after his kids, why not just go after him?!

...yeah that’s quite possible that they own more than one property...I’m just a little confused that most reports say that the alleged arson attack was on his wife’s property and would that indicate they weren’t together and yet they’re going to be living in Spain together..(..I think..)...I feel the same, he’s not someone I would have an interest in but I like to understand the stories...:laugh:...what the facts are...and it does have a huge irony that hes not a supported of the EU but he’s gone to live there...

[Oliver_W]

...the reports are all that the alleged arson attack was on his wife’s property...so they’re not together then but he’s living with them in Spain..?...or they are together and his wife has another property that they weren’t living in ...?...
Does it matter? Being a prick who keeps telling the media how much he dislikes a religion doesn't justify attacking his family.

[Ammi]

Does it matter? Being a prick who keeps telling the media how much he dislikes a religion doesn't justify attacking his family.

...well I do feel it matters because atm the reports are that it’s an ‘alleged arson attack on a property owned by his wife says Tommy...’...so we don’t know if there is any truth in the ‘ alleged attack‘ at all...it’s something we only have his word for and his word isn’t really trustworthy...going after his family cannot ever be condoned or made light of, but I’m trying to see if there’s anything to feel that it’s actually happened is all...

[Liam-]

For someone that condones his followers attacking people on their doorsteps and harassing people in their family homes because they write negative stories about him and his merry band of thugs, he’s a typical narcissist

[Swan]

...yeah that’s quite possible that they own more than one property...I’m just a little confused that most reports say that the alleged arson attack was on his wife’s property and would that indicate they weren’t together and yet they’re going to be living in Spain together..(..I think..)...I feel the same, he’s not someone I would have an interest in but I like to understand the stories...:laugh:...what the facts are...and it does have a huge irony that hes not a supported of the EU but he’s gone to live there...

Yeah it doesn't make much sense atm. If they're not together why would he even go to live there? I can understand his wife and kids going, so what they're back together now? Or were they together but lived in/switched between separate properties?

Like you say, so much is up in the air atm.

[Ammi]

Yeah it doesn't make much sense atm. If they're not together why would he even go to live there? I can understand his wife and kids going, so what they're back together now? Or were they together but lived in/switched between separate properties?

Like you say, so much is up in the air atm.

...I just feel that there’s something a little off about the story in terms of whether it’s true or not...the family do appear to be in Spain but was there ever an arson attack...

[Swan]

...I just feel that there’s something a little off about the story in terms of whether it’s true or not...the family do appear to be in Spain but was there ever an arson attack...

Have the Police made a statement? I agree it would be a good excuse to 'get away' because anyone in their right mind wouldn't condone an attack on innocent children. If anyone would have attacked him, and him alone not many would have cared. So yeah it's actually the perfect excuse.

[arista]

Tommy would be proud


No one cares about him.

[Oliver_W]

Maybe she just happens to own the house, in her name only?

[Swan]

Maybe she just happens to own the house, in her name only?

Well yeah that's plausible.


The Mirror reporting he 'fled to Spain with family' and is 'considering leaving the UK for good'. So he hasn't officially left the UK yet?!

[Saph]

I always get him confused with Johnny Robinson from the X factor :skull:

[arista]

Nothing on SkyNews Site


BBC site only from June
https://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=Tommy++Robinson

[Ammi]

Have the Police made a statement? I agree it would be a good excuse to 'get away' because anyone in their right mind wouldn't condone an attack on innocent children. If anyone would have attacked him, and him alone not many would have cared. So yeah it's actually the perfect excuse.


...I’m trying to find of there is a police statement but I can’t find anything other than...’Tommy Robinson has said on social media in a statement...’.../..type thing...so it really does appear to be just what he’s saying as the reason why he’s unable to attend a rally ..and to say that he knows who did it/related to BLM...

Maybe she just happens to own the house, in her name only?

...but it would still be an extremely odd expression to use because it would be ‘their house’ that they lived in...regardless of what mortgage papers or deed papers say....

[The Slim Reaper]

Also, Robinson has a long history of making **** like this up to further cement him as a victim and to raise money for himself.

[Swan]

...I’m trying to find of there is a police statement but I can’t find anything other than...’Tommy Robinson has said on social media in a statement...’.../..type thing...so it really does appear to be just what he’s saying as the reason why he’s unable to attend a rally ..and to say that he knows who did it/related to BLM...


Hopefully something more 'official' comes to light, other than unreliable social media sources.

Also, Robinson has a long history of making **** like this up to further cement him as a victim and to raise money for himself.

Well if he made this up there'll be no way back for him.

So there is no actual evidence this happened? It's just his word? If it did happen, and he had a hand in it, then he's looking at a very lengthy prison stay.

However it's all speculation atm i guess.

[Liam-]

Also, Robinson has a long history of making **** like this up to further cement him as a victim and to raise money for himself.

When he claimed he was attacked at a football match by someone and then video emerged of him attacking the guy from behind for no reason :joker:

[Ammi]

...from The Independent article...



Bedfordshire Police said it did not have a record of house arson linked to Robinson's family, but had received a report of a car being set on fire in June, without providing further details.

[Ammi]

...thou little fibber...?....

[Jigs]

Isn't that the reason refugees come here..they're kids are getting blown to bits?
Where was the hand wringing then, fact is he's not seen as an immigrant because he's white.

Let's be real.

WHEW Tell 'em :clap1:

[Nicky91]

we love Tommy :love:

[The Slim Reaper]

Literally not one person has defended him on him though? The closest post 'defending' him is more to do with keeping his family safe. But then in fairness the story is looking more and more sketchy as the layers are pealed.

I deleted my post, and he is popular on here with a few.

[The Slim Reaper]

we love Tommy :love:

You're not having the best of weeks are you, Nicky?

[Ammi]

...I’m pleased that it appears he may not be being truthful because hopefully it means his family/children’s safety wasn’t threatened...

[Swan]

I deleted my post, and he is popular on here with a few.

Ok fair, i'll delete mine too.

[Nicky91]

You're not having the best of weeks are you, Nicky?

he's a good laugh for me, cuz he's soooo problematic to the point it's hilarious

[Ammi]

he's a good laugh for me, cuz he's soooo problematic to the point it's hilarious

...are people in the Netherlands very familiar with him, Nicky..?..

[Nicky91]

...are people in the Netherlands very familiar with him, Nicky..?..

Baudet, some think he's dangerous, but people who make such fools of themselves i hardly take any serious

[The Slim Reaper]

he's a good laugh for me, cuz he's soooo problematic to the point it's hilarious

Do you like Wilders?

[Ammi]

Baudet, some think he's dangerous, but people who make such fools of themselves i hardly take any serious

...so they know him from media/social media and they think he’s an ass...?..:laugh:..

[smudgie]

Would Spain want him though, this is the question?

[Beso]

Looks like a racist attack by blm

[Oliver_W]

Looks like a racist attack by blm

Or maybe Antifa.

Or maybe Tommy himself.

Some knucklehead violent thug, whoever it was.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Isn't that the reason refugees come here..they're kids are getting blown to bits?
Where was the hand wringing then, fact is he's not seen as an immigrant because he's white.

Let's be real.

No

They come here for money

Let's get realer

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like a racist attack by blm

Exactly. Despicable

[user104658]

It would only be a "racist attack" if he was attacked for being white. He was clearly attacked for being Tommy Robinson. Which by definition makes it a personal attack; not a racist attack.

[Denver]

Looks like a racist attack by blm

He probably sent the threats himself because you know he has a history of doing this sort of thing

[Beso]

It would only be a "racist attack" if he was attacked for being white. He was clearly attacked for being Tommy Robinson. Which by definition makes it a personal attack; not a racist attack.


I bet that excuse cant be used when a black man is attacked.

[Liam-]

If he was attacked at all

[user104658]

I bet that excuse cant be used when a black man is attacked.It's not an excuse, no one should be attacking anyone, but of course it would apply to anyone of any race when there are clear individual reasons for them being attacked.

[Denver]

Its funny how the people so against him being attacked for being a scum bag supported him to the heavens when he attacked every single person who wasn't british and was attacking places of worship

[Oliver_W]

Its funny how the people so against him being attacked for being a scum bag supported him to the heavens when he attacked every single person who wasn't british and was attacking places of worship

He shouldn't be attacking anyone, no-one should be attacking him :shrug:

I've never heard of him attacking a place of worship though?

[Beso]

It's not an excuse, no one should be attacking anyone, but of course it would apply to anyone of any race when there are clear individual reasons for them being attacked.

Why was his wife and kids attacked in the same way then?

The attackers obviously dont care about anyone else if they happen to be white

[Tom4784]

Who cares

Probably the person he attacked if he was lying about it and anyone with a sense of morality.

[Tom4784]

Maybe they own a property each. Im not arsed about him, but whoever did this shouldn't go after his kids, why not just go after him?!

It's worth being sceptical of anything related to Tommy Robinson, he's not reliable when it comes to telling the truth.

[Tom4784]

BLM isn't threatening to burn down his house :laugh: Also Antifa isn't an organisation, it's literally a buzzword that the Right Wing media uses to scare gullible viewers.

Honestly, Tommy Robinson is the boy who cried wolf and never learned how to stop.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think all of the GBP support and man protecting his family from the aggressive extreme left terrorists

A real danger

[Swan]

It's worth being sceptical of anything related to Tommy Robinson, he's not reliable when it comes to telling the truth.

Yeah i think that's been covered in the thread.

[Denver]

I think all of the GBP support and man protecting his family from the aggressive extreme left terrorists

A real danger

The GBP has never and will never support that racist, homophobic, sexiest piece of shot he is a complete scumbag and is unsafe to be on the streets when he should be locked up in a prison cell

[Beso]

The GBP has never and will never support that racist, homophobic, sexiest piece of shot he is a complete scumbag and is unsafe to be on the streets when he should be locked up in a prison cell



What about his wife and especially his kids though?

Dont thier lives matter to you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What about his wife and especially his kids though?

Dont thier lives matter to you?

Wise words Parmy.

[Mitchell]

he's a good laugh for me, cuz he's soooo problematic to the point it's hilarious

I can’t think of anything less funny than white supremacy tbh

[Withano]

funniest part of 2020 so far.

[Kizzy]

He wanted to live in Europe obviously. ..no chlorinated chicken for stevie boy!

[Oliver_W]

I can’t think of anything less funny than white supremacy tbh

Is he a white supremacist, or is he just anti-islam? I've only ever heard the latter from him.

[Withano]

Must be a pretty sad life

Spend your career loudly hating people and probably genuinely believing it’s for the greater good
Finding out that he’s wrong and that most of the country now hates him and that the only people that like him are racists and dumbasses
And then becoming one of the people he hated to get away from the people who hate him
And he’ll probably hate that too and fail to understand why everyone in his new country hates him

He brought it on himself though so :Idc:

[user104658]

The specifics of him being attacked etc. aside...

Anyone who claims that they don't see the irony in a man who has made a career out of hating immigrants and asylum seekers and who championed Brexit, leaving Britain for an EU country and emigrating to Spain for his and his family's safety...

... is either not being truthful, or doesn't understand what irony is. I can think of very few BETTER real-world examples of irony than "Tommy Robinson has become an asylum seeker in an EU nation".

[user104658]

Is he a white supremacist, or is he just anti-islam? I've only ever heard the latter from him.

He'd probably be better described as a cultural/"native" supremacist, I think it has little to do with colour, other than him making assumptions about people based on their colour. He seems to be fine with people of other ethnicities so long as an English accent comes out of their mouth when they open it, and they are culturally white British.

That is a form of white supremacy though. Just the brand that thinks different skin colours are fine so long as they "play white".

[Oliver_W]

He'd probably be better described as a cultural/"native" supremacist, I think it has little to do with colour, other than him making assumptions about people based on their colour. He seems to be fine with people of other ethnicities so long as an English accent comes out of their mouth when they open it, and they are culturally white British.

Hm I'd go with that. I've never particularly paid much attention to him but every time I have he's played the "black friends" card :laugh:

Like, as an ideology of course islam should have as little influence as possible in the west, but that doesn't justify the way he spews hatred in the media and thinks with his fists, but I've never heard the hate pointed elsewhere.

[Livia]

Whoever he is, his children don't deserve to be targeted by arsonists.

And while I don't support his beliefs - not at all, he has a problem with Jews - it's easy to understand why people who've left the East End after generations because it's been handed to immigrants and and the gentry, would probably be a bit racist. Essex is full of these people. No one's ever been able to talk about that though, without the hysteria that's littered this thread.

[Tom4784]

If there was any threat to him or his family in the first place. We all know how Right Wing figures love to pretend there's been threats against them to garner sympathy.

He's a known liar and it's foolish to believe anything he says without conclusive proof.

[Liam-]

People are bound to be racist when foreigners move in is quite the take

[The Slim Reaper]

Whoever he is, his children don't deserve to be targeted by arsonists.

And while I don't support his beliefs - not at all, he has a problem with Jews - it's easy to understand why people who've left the East End after generations because it's been handed to immigrants and and the gentry, would probably be a bit racist. Essex is full of these people. No one's ever been able to talk about that though, without the hysteria that's littered this thread.

Some racism is understandable is a confession.

[Livia]

It's pointless talking about this. Like I said, any discussion on how the East End has been almost cleared of working class white people brings out the TiBB Reactionaries. The East End has been multicultural since they built the docks. I grew up in a multicultural area - Newham - the first London borough where immigrants outnumbered the indigenous population. But now the balance has shifted a bit too far. And unless you've lived there then, and live there now... you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Liam-]

Unless people are physically being forced out of their homes in place for a foreigner then there is no need to say they’re ‘taking over’ if people leave because they don’t want to be surrounded by foreigners then that’s down to their own ignorance and racism, I have a feeling people wouldn’t mind a part of the country being mostly foreigners if the foreigners were from say, Scandinavia or Northern America

[The Slim Reaper]

It's pointless talking about this. Like I said, any discussion on how the East End has been almost cleared of working class white people brings out the TiBB Reactionaries. The East End has been multicultural since they built the docks. I grew up in a multicultural area - Newham - the first London borough where immigrants outnumbered the indigenous population. But now the balance has shifted a bit too far. And unless you've lived there then, and live there now... you have no idea what you're talking about.

A reactionary is someone who wishes to return to previous times and opposes progress and change. That describes your pov, not ours.

[Livia]

Whatever...

[Oliver_W]

Unless people are physically being forced out of their homes in place for a foreigner then there is no need to say they’re ‘taking over’ if people leave because they don’t want to be surrounded by foreigners then that’s down to their own ignorance and racism, I have a feeling people wouldn’t mind a part of the country being mostly foreigners if the foreigners were from say, Scandinavia or Northern America

North Americans and Scandinavians are culturally very similar to us, if not identical in most ways. Islamic culture is completely different, which is what causes "culture clash".

[The Slim Reaper]

North Americans and Scandinavians are culturally very similar to us, if not identical in most ways. Islamic culture is completely different, which is what causes "culture clash".

It's not really about culture though is it? Culture has just become a seemingly acceptable wall for bigotry to hide behind.

[Liam-]

It must be so hard being scared of people who pray at certain times a day and wear different clothes to us, couldn’t be me

[Oliver_W]

It's not really about culture though is it? Culture has just become a seemingly acceptable wall for bigotry to hide behind.

Things TR spoke about were stuff like views on women and child marriage rather than skin colour.

[The Slim Reaper]

It must be so hard being scared of people who pray at certain times a day and wear different clothes to us, couldn’t be me

Don't forget that language that sounds funny

[The Slim Reaper]

Things TR spoke about related to behaviour of muslims rather than their skin colour.

Of course it did. He formed the EDL which wasn't just about muslims, and as differing forms of open racism have become more and more unacceptable to most of society, he's retreating further and further back into it being about Islam, which is accepted by the English galahads.

[Oliver_W]

It must be so hard being scared of people who pray at certain times a day and wear different clothes to us, couldn’t be me

That stuff about hating gays, treating women like trash, and legalised child marriage pales in comparison to walking around in nightshirts, yes.

[Livia]

And as if to embroider my point.....

[Cherie]

It must be so hard being scared of people who pray at certain times a day and wear different clothes to us, couldn’t be me

That's quite an oversimplifcation to overcrowding and stretched resources, but go off as you would say

[Oliver_W]

Of course it did. He formed the EDL which wasn't just about muslims, and as differing forms of open racism have become more and more acceptable to most of society, he's retreating further and further back into it being about Islam, which is accepted by the English galahads.

I don't really know or care what the EDL stood for, I wasn't listening to them :shrug: TR is a moron but the way islam manifests in the world is worse, and there's nothing wrong with not wanting it here.

[Liam-]

Things TR spoke about were stuff like views on women and child marriage rather than skin colour.

That stuff about hating gays, treating women like trash, and legalised child marriage pales in comparison to walking around in nightshirts, yes

I’m sure he has the same level of issues with white bigots, misogynists and predators

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't really know or care what the EDL stood for, I wasn't listening to them :shrug: TR is a moron but the way islam manifests in the world is worse, and there's nothing wrong with not wanting it here.

Well then you miss out knowing who TR really is, and why his focus has conveniently switched.

[Liam-]

Some Catholics have problematic views on women, gays and let’s not mention the issue with priests worldwide, shall we ban that too?

[The Slim Reaper]

And as if to embroider my point.....

You had the chance to embroider your own point, and this was how you used it.

Whatever...

[Liam-]

Islam isn’t the issue, it’s the extremists that twist their religion to suit their hatred fuelled ideology, the same as people who hide behind Christianity to try and excuse their hatred and bigotry, except people are much more willing to look past the white Christian extremists than any other.

Make no mistake, it’s not about ‘culture’ people like Robinson and his ilk only want one thing, a white nation of pure English speakers, he pinpoints Islam as his main target because he knows the only acceptable bigotry left in our society is Islamiphobia.

[Oliver_W]

Some Catholics have problematic views on women, gays and let’s not mention the issue with priests worldwide, shall we ban that too?
How many Catholic countries have the same societal problems as islamic ones?

Islam isn’t the issue, it’s the extremists that twist their religion to suit their hatred fuelled ideology, the same as people who hide behind Christianity to try and excuse their hatred and bigotry, except people are much more willing to look past the white Christian extremists than any other.
The scriptures themselves might be as problematic as each other, but it's about how they manifest in the world, what effect they have in countries they have influence in.

[Ammi]

...from The Independent article...



Bedfordshire Police said it did not have a record of house arson linked to Robinson's family, but had received a report of a car being set on fire in June, without providing further details.

...just to say again that I’m not sure that any attack did take place..he described it as his wife’s property, which is an odd description ...and the police have no record to any property linked to the family having had any attack of arson...all quite dubious atm...

[Liam-]

How many Catholic countries have the same societal problems as islamic ones?

Russia are still persecuting gays to this day, a lot of Africa is predominantly Christian and those countries still put people in prison for being gay some even get put on death row, those countries have massive amounts of violence based on religion

The scriptures themselves might be as problematic as each other, but it's about how they manifest in the world, what effect they have in countries they have influence in.

And Islam has no influence or power here, no matter what the daily mail or right-wing mouth pieces tell you they do.
Islam isn’t the only religion in history to be manipulated for a dangerous cause, Hitler was a Catholic and lead with religion at his forefront, yet we don’t question the place of Catholicism in the world do we?

[Livia]

Russia are still persecuting gays to this day, a lot of Africa is predominantly Christian and those countries still put people in prison for being gay some even get put on death row, those countries have massive amounts of violence based on religion



And Islam has no influence or power here, no matter what the daily mail or right-wing mouth pieces tell you they do.
Islam isn’t the only religion in history to be manipulated for a dangerous cause, Hitler was a Catholic and lead with religion at his forefront, yet we don’t question the place of Catholicism in the world do we?

Oh Hitler! Here we go....

[Liam-]

Oh, sorry I forgot.

Livia, do I have your permission to discuss Hitler, as he was a prominent figure in world history, it would be my honour to have your blessing tah x

[Denver]

Don't religious books hate on gays and belive men are far superiors then women?

[Livia]

Don't religious books hate on gays and belive men are far superiors then women?

You have to consider how people live now with those religions and the rules of those religions, and realise that Islam is a century behind. We were talking about the UK here, and as far as I know, no Christians, Catholic or otherwise, have been stoned, hanged or dooshed into water on a ducking stool for ages now. Women have equality here, so do gay people. Saudi Arabia, not so much.

[Livia]

Oh, sorry I forgot.

Livia, do I have your permission to discuss Hitler, as he was a prominent figure in world history, it would be my honour to have your blessing tah x

Hey, if you want to make yourself look like an arse, you go right ahead.

[Tom4784]

Dunno what Saudi Arabia has to do with fearing a muslim 'takeover' in the UK, tbh. There's plenty of christian countries in Africa that do have discriminatory and barbaric practices but we don't use that as a stick to beat Christianity with.

[Denver]

You have to consider how people live now with those religions and the rules of those religions, and realise that Islam is a century behind. We were talking about the UK here, and as far as I know, no Christians, Catholic or otherwise, have been stoned, hanged or dooshed into water on a ducking stool for ages now. Women have equality here, so do gay people. Saudi Arabia, not so much.

Women don't have equality here well not the the full extent, they are still vastly underplayed for doing the exact same job a man would do which is still a major problem yet to be sorted

[Nicky91]

agree Dezzy, if i can remember correctly most of refugees, asylum seekers are not even from Saudi Arabia

but Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan, Somalia and also very understandable people left those countries, given how awful it is over there with wars, conflicts


yes ok among those there are criminals too, but most want better lives

[Tom4784]

Many countries that are ruled by dictators or barbaric regimes often use religion as a tool to justify their brutality. Saudi Arabia would likely be just as brutal as it is with or without religion because the problem is with the people in charge rather than the religion because every religion is similar when you get to the fundamentalism of it all but most people are not puritanical or fundamentalists.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeGV3S0XgAMvUkn?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeGV3qnXsAAqT1l?format=jpg&name=large

[The Slim Reaper]

He only hates muslims :smug:

[Oliver_W]

Women don't have equality here well not the the full extent, they are still vastly underplayed for doing the exact same job a man would do which is still a major problem yet to be sorted

The pay gap is caused by the two genders on average working different jobs and different hours, unless you have some examples of actual unequal pay?

[Oliver_W]

He only hates muslims :smug:

I'm not watching a video of TR lol he's not worth my time, what'd he say?

[Livia]

Women don't have equality here well not the the full extent, they are still vastly underplayed for doing the exact same job a man would do which is still a major problem yet to be sorted

Look at you, telling ME about women's freedoms.

Yeah, there's still a pay gap. But we don't have to have our clitoris cut off without aesthetic when we're still children, then sewn up so we can just bleed and pee. We're not married off at the age of 12 to some old man, we are not a possession of our husband, we have access to education, medicine, birth control... yeah, the pay gap is still there but it's quite a long way down the list. I've worked in the Middle East, I've been to India, I've been across North Africa... please don't tell me how bad women have it in this country.

[Livia]

agree Dezzy, if i can remember correctly most of refugees, asylum seekers are not even from Saudi Arabia

but Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Sudan, Somalia and also very understandable people left those countries, given how awful it is over there with wars, conflicts


yes ok among those there are criminals too, but most want better lives

Nicky, I understand fully that Saudi Arabia doesn't produce many asylum seekers, I was using it as an example. And frankly it's pretty tedious when my posts are deliberately misinterpreted for drama and I have to explain.

[Beso]

Awww, he should stay and run for mayor of Luton.

[The Slim Reaper]

Awww, he should stay and run for mayor of Luton.

Why risk losing when his merry band of thugs will continue to fund him?

[Beso]

Why risk losing when his merry band of thugs will continue to fund him?

I dont know :shrug: