Woman throws hot coffee on two men for eating a burrito mask-less

[Tony Montana]

This happened 2 weeks ago.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12290398/woman-throws-coffee-at-man-manhattan-beach/

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[Niamh.]

How can you eat a burrito while wearing a mask? I hope they caught these assholes

[Aaliyah]

What was the outcome, did anyone get charged?

[Niamh.]

Also, since when do you have to wear masks outdoors?

[Aaliyah]

Also, since when do you have to wear masks outdoors?

Exactly, the far-right coffee wielding pair deserve to catch Corona for behaving like this. Even if this was indoors there's no need whatsoever to react like this. Odious pair I wish not to meet because I'd have given the boyfriend AND the girlfriend more than a bust nose.

It states on Reddit that the police made the coffee couple apologise after seeing the footage, so at least that's one thing

[Niamh.]

Exactly, the far-right coffee yielding wielding pair deserve to catch Corona for behaving like this. Even if this was indoors there's no need whatsoever to react like this. Odious pair I wish not to meet because I'd have given the boyfriend AND the girlfriend more than a bust nose.

It states on Reddit that the police made the coffee couple apologise after seeing the footage, so at least that's one thing

Should have done more than made them apologise, that's assault. Also, even if he was inside he would still have to take his mask off to eat, I don't get their logic

[UserSince2005]

some people need a good smack to the face

[user104658]

Well, it's not just because they're eating, they do state that they're anti-maskers, one of them does get excessively violent (and the "well the girl threw coffee at me - of course I'm going to punch her boyfriend" line is ****ing stupid), but then also there's no excuse for throwing hot coffee over someone.

Honestly for me this is one of those situations where everyone involved is a detestable sh**. Yukk.

[thesheriff443]

If someone chooses not to wear a mask then they are risking their health not yours if you are wearing one.

People should learn to mind their own business.

[The Slim Reaper]

If someone chooses not to wear a mask then they are risking their health not yours if you are wearing one.

People should learn to mind their own business.

Masks are worn to primarily protect others, so that's why we rely on everyone else to wear them to protect us.

[thesheriff443]

Masks are worn to primarily protect others, so that's why we rely on everyone else to wear them to protect us.

I don’t believe that because doctors and nurses wear them to protect themselves from catching it off patients.

So the same logic has to apply to everyone.

[user104658]

I don’t believe that because doctors and nurses wear them to protect themselves from catching it off patients.

So the same logic has to apply to everyone.

I suppose... if you don't understand PPE, the science that lead to the recommendation of wearing masks in public, and also, logic.

The primary purpose of masks is to catch respiratory droplets containing covid that come from the wearer (and reportedly reduce transmission rates by up to 90%). They have a secondary function of protecting the wearer from others - far less effective, about 30%.

Masks are a SMALL part of full medical PPE.

[arista]

Lucky they were not armed

[user104658]

Lucky they were not armed

Why? They were all white.

[arista]

Why? They were all white.


Loads have guns
in USA

[AnnieK]

If someone chooses not to wear a mask then they are risking their health not yours if you are wearing one.

People should learn to mind their own business.

I get pissed off when people are not wearing masks. 1- they protect others from you when you wear them, not the other way round and because if people keep spreading this virus by not wearing masks we will never get back to normal. It's not about minding your own business in this circumstance in my opinion, this virus and getting rid of it is everyone's business and should be everyone's priority

[The Slim Reaper]

I don’t believe that because doctors and nurses wear them to protect themselves from catching it off patients.

So the same logic has to apply to everyone.

You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, but look it up.

[Niamh.]

You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, but look it up.

Yeah, I thought that was pretty common knowledge

[thesheriff443]

Yes. if you wear a stab vest it’s it’s not protect you but the other person that’s not wearing one.

[thesheriff443]

Ppe, is to protect the person wearing it not the man down the road in his under pants.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes. if you wear a stab vest it’s it’s not protect you but the other person that’s not wearing one.

All you have to do is google it, rather than insisting you're right about something you're wrong about.

Being stabbed is nothing like catching a virus.

[Shaun]

Yes. if you wear a stab vest it’s it’s not protect you but the other person that’s not wearing one.

I would've thought the difference between a protective clothing against bullets / knife attacks, and paraphernalia that restricts the spread of contagious diseases, was a little obvious

[AnnieK]

Massive difference too between medical masks and the ones people are being advised to wear.

[thesheriff443]

Massive difference too between medical masks and the ones people are being advised to wear.

There are medical grade masks available.

[The Slim Reaper]

There are medical grade masks available.

Let me ask you this, do you believe viruses can enter the body through the eyes?

Would it be fair to suggest that if they can, then covering just your mouth and nose isn't really protecting you?

[thesheriff443]

A mask from my point of view is part of ppe and is to protect the person wearing it.

If there is a disease that is air born the person that will be protected from it will be the one wearing the mask not the one without the mask.

[bots]

Let me ask you this, do you believe viruses can enter the body through the eyes?

Would it be fair to suggest that if they can, then covering just your mouth and nose isn't really protecting you?

thats why they have visors

[AnnieK]

There are medical grade masks available.

Even so, its been well published that mask wearing in the general population is needed to protect others from the wearer. If everyone wore them, that would protect everyone equally

[The Slim Reaper]

thats why they have visors

I'm not talking about medical professionals. Sheriff is saying that we wear masks to protect ourselves, whereas the rest of us are saying that we wear masks to protect others, and rely on them to wear them in return, to protect us.

[The Slim Reaper]

A mask from my point of view is part of ppe and is to protect the person wearing it.

If there is a disease that is air born the person that will be protected from it will be the one wearing the mask not the one without the mask.

Your PoV doesn't counteract science though. All you need to do is google it.

[thesheriff443]

Let me ask you this, do you believe viruses can enter the body through the eyes?

Would it be fair to suggest that if they can, then covering just your mouth and nose isn't really protecting you?

Different viruses and disease attack in different ways and yes some enter through the eyes skin, by contact and by eating a disease animal or food containing a parasit.

[bots]

masks are not worn by surgeons to protect themselves during operations, it's to protect the patient from bacteria etc while they are under the knife. Those are medical masks

[The Slim Reaper]

Different viruses and disease attack in different ways and yes some enter through the eyes skin, by contact and by eating a disease animal or food containing a parasit.

So... what's the next logical step if we know covid can enter through the eyes, and we're only wearing mouth and nose coverings?

[Elliot]

‘We don’t believe in that sort of stuff’ yikes

[Cherie]

They were sitting outside, whatever their views are on wearing masks they do not need to wear one outdoors

[Cherie]

Yes. if you wear a stab vest it’s it’s not protect you but the other person that’s not wearing one.

What a stupid analogy :shrug:

[Jordan.]

Should have done more than made them apologise, that's assault. Also, even if he was inside he would still have to take his mask off to eat, I don't get their logic

I don't think the video shows the whole story tbh, the guy with the woman says at the start that the two filming called them "pussies" for wearing face masks (before the video convientely starts to make it look like they were randomly approached). I think the couple got baited and stupidly gave them the reaction they were seeking.

[user104658]

A mask from my point of view is part of ppe and is to protect the person wearing it.

If there is a disease that is air born the person that will be protected from it will be the one wearing the mask not the one without the mask.

It is not airborne. It is spread through cough/sneeze/saliva droplets. The mask is to stop those from being spread around from an infected person, as the droplets are caught in the mask.

It's not a "point of view"... these are the medical facts behind the advice to wear masks :think:.

[user104658]

I don't think the video shows the whole story tbh, the guy with the woman says at the start that the two filming called them "pussies" for wearing face masks (before the video convientely starts to make it look like they were randomly approached). I think the couple got baited and stupidly gave them the reaction they were seeking.

I think it does show the whole story which is why I'm bewildered about anyone really taking either side. The guys sitting down quite clearly express that they have a "different view" on wearing masks and don't wear them... not just while eating. The guy who goes on the attack also starts punching the boyfriend when it was clearly the girl who threw the coffee... he flips back and forth between saying it was the guy (for the benefit of the 911 operator on the phone, I assume) and admitting that he knows it was the girl - which we can clearly see in the video - and stating that he attacked the boyfriend because he's not going to go straight for the girl... and acts like this is normal logic. Bizarre.

On the other hand... the couple have 1) taken it upon themselves to police others (which is fine, but you only need to make one comment)... 2) Thrown coffee over someone which yes is assault in the first place and then 3) the boyfriend called in the cops when - although nothing justifies a physical attack in retaliation - it was clearly his girlfriend who escalated the fight from words to physical actions. I can only assume that they didn't know they were being filmed and just planned to flat out lie about that. She tried to claim that the coffee spilled on her boyfriend during the punching and wasn't thrown.


So yeah I think the video shows it all and I think they're ALL a bunch of arseholes, in different ways. :shrug:

[thesheriff443]

You people are hilarious.

So why did we have doctors and nurses pleading and begging the government for masks to protect themselves from catching Covid from the patients they were treating.

They were not on the news every day saying we need the masks to protect the patients it was to protect themselves.
They were dying from not having ppe and catching it from the patients

But google says dismiss what medical professionals were saying.

[Denver]

They lost all credibility when they went to attack the person who didn't throw the coffee sorry

[Shaun]

Perhaps because they are literally in close contact with people already confirmed to have the disease on an overwhelmingly regular basis :umm2: call people hilarious because you can't grasp basic science

[armand.kay]

your girlfriend throws hot coffee at someone and you get punched just go home and lick your wounds why stand around calling the police :skull:

[Ammi]

...the way the guy said ‘there I’ve photographed your face, this is going all over social media now...’...or similar words../...gives me a feeling that this was all set up...the fact that he had the body camera all set up in the first place...which apparently he had because ‘they’re Maga/Trump supporters, which tends to bring them regular abuse’.../his words again or similar words...

...they didn’t press charges...they wanted the world to know/the whole of social media to know and see the face of the guy who was the partner of the woman who assaulted them with hot coffee and the guy who was assaulted by one of them because he had a partner who assaulted etc...they were so pleased that the police were called and that they had that body cam all set up and everyone could see the truth now, that coup,e would be exposed to the world...but they didn’t want to press charges...?...it’s all a bit dodgy and none of them looked good...maybe all four of them knew each other, who knows...

[thesheriff443]

Perhaps because they are literally in close contact with people already confirmed to have the disease on an overwhelmingly regular basis :umm2: call people hilarious because you can't grasp basic science

I can grasp basic science, you like many others have trouble understanding ppe.

With Covid the use of masks was to protect the person wearing them.

The difference between wearing a mask in a operating theatre is clear to me.

The government said in daily updates when challenged by doctors nurses and and the press we are doing everything we can to get the ppe needed to protect the nhs.

Witnessed by sage.

[thesheriff443]

your girlfriend throws hot coffee at someone and you get punched just go home and lick your wounds why stand around calling the police :skull:

Because they thought that because the guy that got coffee thrown over him punched the girlfriends guy, he was going to jail.

People not wanting to press charges for fights like this are more common than you think.

[Ammi]

...it’s the difference between PPE face masks where the purpose is to protect and face coverings which don’t protect, but evidence suggests that wearing one may protect others though... if someone was infected but didn’t realise as sometimes people have no symptoms etc...a face covering or the type of mask that many of us have are not PPE and not made to protect the wearer as surgical/medical masks are...

[user104658]

So why did we have doctors and nurses pleading and begging the government for masks to protect themselves from catching Covid from the patients they were treating.


Because they offer some protection to the wearer as part of a full PPE kit - just not as much as having the infected person wear a mask does.

I mean you can even just use simple basic common sense here. If a mask protects the wearer by stopping infected droplets entering their mouth and nose, why WOULDN'T a mask stop those same droplets EXITING the mouth and nose of an infected person?

[Ammi]

...honestly...I just started to read a Reddit thread...and I know, her throwing the coffee was awful, regardless of any potential ‘baiting’ or not etc...but the ‘hate’ and nasty comments directed at her are absolutely disgusting...I’m pretty sure that these two guys would be quite aware that, that would happen and I tended it to happen against the couple when they said...’let me photograph your face, you’re going on every social media site...’...they really are quite awful people and that guy seemed less interested in whether his friend was scalded by apparent hot coffee...than he was with the satisfaction of knowing the ‘hate’ this couple would get...

[The Slim Reaper]

Sheriff vs science

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[Aaliyah]

They lost all credibility when they went to attack the person who didn't throw the coffee sorry

Sorry but if you as a feminine male throw hot coffee over me and let's say you're with a more masculine boyfriend or friend, then I am going to attack him, violently, and with no regret!

[user104658]

Sorry but if you as a feminine male throw hot coffee over me and let's say you're with a more masculine boyfriend or friend, then I am going to attack him, violently, and with no regret!

If you did that in the UK you'd be charged with unprovoked assault, though. If you attacked someone who DID throw coffee over you (and had no violent priors) you'd probably get away with a warning because it was provoked/the other person attacked first. Attacking someone who did nothing just because they're WITH the person who attacked you? Not really going to fly as a defense.

[Mystic Mock]

How can you eat a burrito while wearing a mask? I hope they caught these assholes

I agree.

That's why food establishments (non Supermarket places) should only be opened up as Takeaways only for the time being while procedures are in place as it's not safe to have a crowded Taco Bell or Burger King at the moment.

[Mystic Mock]

I can grasp basic science, you like many others have trouble understanding ppe.

With Covid the use of masks was to protect the person wearing them.

The difference between wearing a mask in a operating theatre is clear to me.

The government said in daily updates when challenged by doctors nurses and and the press we are doing everything we can to get the ppe needed to protect the nhs.

Witnessed by sage.

Wearing a mask is to protect yourself and the people around you, but it's well known knowledge tbf that wearing a mask is primarily being advised by the Government so you don't spread Covid to other people if you do have it.

[Aaliyah]

If you did that in the UK you'd be charged with unprovoked assault, though. If you attacked someone who DID throw coffee over you (and had no violent priors) you'd probably get away with a warning because it was provoked/the other person attacked first. Attacking someone who did nothing just because they're WITH the person who attacked you? Not really going to fly as a defense.

And you know what I'd gladly take the charge!!

[Jigs]

And you know what I'd gladly take the charge!!

Sweetie you wouldn't last two seconds in the nick

[Denver]

Sweetie you wouldn't last two seconds in the nick
Not even 2 seconds in a police car

[Aaliyah]

Says the feminine pair!