BGT receives thousands of Ofcom complains for BLM performance

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ashley Bandwaggon

[Braden]

OK so having actually watched the performance now ( :umm2: I know, I know...) I don't actually get what there is to complain about? I think I assumed that it was politically partisan but... it isn't even that... it's mainly observational of the issue and quite hopeful of a better future. Somewhat ironically given the response, perhaps.

I liked the performance, I didn't find it earth-shattering or revelationary but because of that... it really isn't controversial. It doesn't play into political tribalism in any particular way. So yes... the complaints really are petty and I can't think of any reason for them other than people having an automatic "ew lefty stuff yeuch" reaction.

I agree with this.

I’ve only just watched the performance as I don’t watch BGT, but I don’t understand why people are complaining?

[bots]

BLM is a political organisation that has over reached it's scope. People are bound to complain if it's thrust upon them in what is supposed to be an entertainment programme.

[Kazanne]

BLM is a political organisation that has over reached it's scope. People are bound to complain if it's thrust upon them in what is supposed to be an entertainment programme.

This ,exactly, I don't know why race is brought into it all the time ,people watch with their kids and maybe don't want to see depictions of violence on a entertainment show , after all we have all seen the real thing on the news.

[Denver]

BLM is a political organisation that has over reached it's scope. People are bound to complain if it's thrust upon them in what is supposed to be an entertainment programme.

So innocent black people dying is a political statement? It has nothing to do with Politics

[Liam-]

I hope all those people who don’t want their kids to be exposed to ‘depictions of violence’ on entertainment shows don’t let them watch things like Power Rangers, Tom and Jerry, or any films with The Rock in, soaps, anime, I could go on

[Kazanne]

I hope all those people who don’t want their kids to be exposed to ‘depictions of violence’ on entertainment shows don’t let them watch things like Power Rangers, Tom and Jerry, or any films with The Rock in, soaps, anime, I could go on

Oh you do,there is a difference in serious news and cartoons most kids know the difference, we see enough sad news and sad stories on the news etc,so imo we dont really need it on an entertainment show,

[Liam-]

Oh you do,there is a difference in serious news and cartoons most kids know the difference, we see enough sad news and sad stories on the news etc,so imo we dont really need it on an entertainment show,

Well that’s not very nice now is it

It might not be ‘needed’ is anything really needed? But there’s zero need whatsoever to complain about it, you seem to have a problem with it, but did you have a problem with the little majority white kids singing about the environment?

[Denver]

Oh you do,there is a difference in serious news and cartoons most kids know the difference, we see enough sad news and sad stories on the news etc,so imo we dont really need it on an entertainment show,

So basically what your saying is we don't need black equality on an entertainment show?

[Kazanne]

Well that’s not very nice now is it

It might not be ‘needed’ is anything really needed? But there’s zero need whatsoever to complain about it, you seem to have a problem with it, but did you have a problem with the little majority white kids singing about the environment?

I dont really look for colour Liam just content , I haven't watched it much this season to be honest, I have not complained I have better things to do,but I do think this is all getting way out of hand and is not doing the BLM cause any good.Those kids singing about the enviroment ? hand on heart i have no idea the colour variation in that choir.

[Kazanne]

So basically what your saying is we don't need black equality on an entertainment show?

No one said that, no one has said they couldn't dance ? its the content people complained about not the dance or colour.

[Denver]

Is Dance not about emotions? But your saying they can't feel emotions about people of their race dying when they shouldn't so if they can't put emotion into a dance what is the point?

[Liam-]

I dont really look for colour Liam just content , I haven't watched it much this season to be honest, I have not complained I have better things to do,but I do think this is all getting way out of hand and is not doing the BLM cause any good.Those kids singing about the enviroment ? hand on heart i have no idea the colour variation in that choir.

Okay then, so if you’re against this political message on an entertainment show, would you be equally against kids singing about the urgency of saving the planet on an entertainment show?

[Kazanne]

Is Dance not about emotions? But your saying they can't feel emotions about people of their race dying when they shouldn't so if they can't put emotion into a dance what is the point?

No one said that either, you don't see the point ,some people felt it was not needed on BGT, I didnt see it, and didnt complain,but if some people didnt like it they are entitalled to complain as they would if it was the other way round.

[Kazanne]

Okay then, so if you’re against this political message on an entertainment show, would you be equally against kids singing about the urgency of saving the planet on an entertainment show?

Im not against it,I am just explaining why I think some people took offence to it and found it inappropiate for BGT.

[Kizzy]

OK so having actually watched the performance now ( :umm2: I know, I know...) I don't actually get what there is to complain about? I think I assumed that it was politically partisan but... it isn't even that... it's mainly observational of the issue and quite hopeful of a better future. Somewhat ironically given the response, perhaps.

I liked the performance, I didn't find it earth-shattering or revelationary but because of that... it really isn't controversial. It doesn't play into political tribalism in any particular way. So yes... the complaints really are petty and I can't think of any reason for them other than people having an automatic "ew lefty stuff yeuch" reaction.

That's a u turn Boris would be proud of :laugh:

[Tom4784]

People should consider themselves lucky that they can look on such issues as outsiders, having never experienced such brutality and racism, than complain about other people discussing it through whichever mediums they choose, be it dance, or otherwise.

Not everyone can afford to complain about 'too much politics in entertainment' to many people, this is an issue of life and death and the more exposure it gets, the more racism and inequality is highlighted.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's got jack all to do witlh the UK

I mean really, the GBP are not fooled

[Kizzy]

Im not against it,I am just explaining why I think some people took offence to it and found it inappropiate for BGT.

Why? because you didn't want to watch it... Switch off then.

I've yet to hear a credible reason for the backlash,other than its an entertainment show...that is not a reason to make a formal complaint to ofcom.

It was entertaining, relevant and thought provoking A triple threat.

[Tom4784]

If you find it a hassle to watch an interpretive dance about police brutality towards black people, you should thank god it's not an issue that affects you personally.

[Marsh.]

This ,exactly, I don't know why race is brought into it all the time ,people watch with their kids and maybe don't want to see depictions of violence on a entertainment show , after all we have all seen the real thing on the news.

You.... don't..... know.... why...... race.... is..... brought..... into it? Really Kazanne?

[Beso]

What do we get for balance next week...diversity creeping up in thier fast moving style unloading clips into ant and dec dressed as 2 policemen?

[user104658]

The thing is, it's not even very heavily political, its an interpretive dance about the things a lot of people are feeling about these situations... it's not a rallying call or a polarised political statement :shrug:.

Its been complained about like it was propaganda and I made the mistake of assuming that it must have a message with a hefty political leaning - which I still don't think would be appropriate for ITV prime time telly - but it just doesn't.

[Liam-]

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ITV said **** the racists

[Crimson Dynamo]

spineless

ITV who broadcast the shambles and continues to broadcast BGT even though its 5 years past its sell by date

issue a tweet to say we are not admitting we did owt wrong incase we get in trouble

lol

aye right

(also it took them how long to issue this?)

[Kazanne]

Why? because you didn't want to watch it... Switch off then.

I've yet to hear a credible reason for the backlash,other than its an entertainment show...that is not a reason to make a formal complaint to ofcom.

It was entertaining, relevant and thought provoking A triple threat.

When did i say i didnt want to watch it ? I didnt watch it as i was doing other things,Im not bothered what they did, all I was trying to say is a reason why SOME people may have complained.

[The Slim Reaper]

spineless

ITV who broadcast the shambles and continues to broadcast BGT even though its 5 years past its sell by date

issue a tweet to say we are not admitting we did owt wrong incase we get in trouble

lol

aye right

(also it took them how long to issue this?)

So what exactly do you believe they've done wrong? What should they have done?

We agree that BGT is trash, but that's not the issue.

[Oliver_W]

Being spineless would be not standing by their convictions. Yes, I found it a bit cringey, but I find most interpretative dance cringey af, and if cringe were a crime then Cowell wouldn't have a television career.

Good for them for sticking to their guns.

[Beso]

https://www.facebook.com/1535982816520396/posts/3279493325502661/?extid=U0X1oHVyqTrtUsyI

[The Slim Reaper]

BLM are marxists? Can someone using this scary boogeyman, explain what marxism and the ideology of Marx aims to achieve?

Being pavlovian conditioned to react to buzz words is pretty meaningless.

[user104658]

BLM are marxists? Can someone using this scary boogeyman, explain what marxism and the ideology of Marx aims to achieve?



Being pavlovian conditioned to react to buzz words is pretty meaningless.I absolutely guarantee that the vast majority of people shouting "Marxist" about things have no idea what they mean... It's not even something you could just look up and have a little read about. A degree-level module barely suffices as an "introduction".

[Denver]

Ofcom have confirmed they will not investigate

[Jack_]

Racists fuming :love:

You love to see it

[Crimson Dynamo]

It wasnt reported to be investigated, the point has already been made in the thread about what offcom does.

It was reported to register dislike and anger

job done

[Beso]

Do we now get a performance from britain first accompanied by the tommy robinson orchestra?

[The Slim Reaper]

Do we now get a performance from britain first accompanied by the tommy robinson orchestra?

Yes, if they want to audition. What show would you like to see them put on? Maybe something uber-patriotic like Shakespeare's Henry V?

Is the lack of representation of the far right on saturday evening tv, a pressing issue of our time?

[Kizzy]

It wasnt reported to be investigated, the point has already been made in the thread about what offcom does.

It was reported to register dislike and anger

job done

Then they are misusing it, that's not what ofcom are for to act as a barometer for the nations Karens.
Ofcom is not the manager...

[Crimson Dynamo]

then they are misusing it, that's not what ofcom are for to act as a barometer for the nations karens.
Ofcom is not the manager...

its an effective way to get media coverage yes

[Ammi]

Ashley Banjo has addressed the number of complaints against Diversity’s performance on Britain’s Got Talent, as it nears becoming the most complained about TV moment of the decade.

The dance troupe’s Black Lives Matter-inspired routine has so far prompted more than 23,000 complaints to broadcasting watchdog Ofcom.

It is the second highest number for a TV show since 2010, after 25,327 were made in 2018 about Celebrity Big Brother when ex-Emmerdale actress Roxanne Pallett alleged she had been assaulted by fellow housemate Ryan Thomas.

Banjo, 31, shared a photo of himself with his daughter Rosie on Instagram.

He wrote: “Just me and Rosie patiently watching as we head for the number 1 spot.

“In other news though, I was out and about today and felt so much love from people.

“Never let the minority warp the reality… This country really is Great #Diversity #ofcom”


...full article...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ashley-banjo-speaks-diversity-performance-202558996.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like he is still quite upset about not being so popular anymore. Play with fire Mr Banjo, play with fire...

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/AshleyBanjo/status/1306569772142751747

[Beso]

Yes, if they want to audition. What show would you like to see them put on? Maybe something uber-patriotic like Shakespeare's Henry V?

Is the lack of representation of the far right on saturday evening tv, a pressing issue of our time?



I dont think diversity had to audition for this episode, but in the fairness of balance, maybe we should have something this saturday to balance things out.

[Nicky91]

I dont think diversity had to audition for this episode, but in the fairness of balance, maybe we should have something this saturday to balance things out.

if you wanna watch some light hearted fun entertainment from this saturday for next 4 weeks, we got Strictly: Best Of (BBC1 7:30 PM) part 1 is looking back at Movie Week at past years, so Tess & Claudia from home, and judges all via skype/facetime talking about some of best bits, now also most beautiful costumes, best performances etc

[The Slim Reaper]

I dont think diversity had to audition for this episode, but in the fairness of balance, maybe we should have something this saturday to balance things out.

Are Diversity that dance group that did well a few years ago? I don't watch it. If they are, then they've already proven themselves as an entertainment act.

Whereas this is the Tommy and BF, light entertainment stand up routine.


Hope he tells his classics, like "who would rape her, bruv?"


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[Beso]

Eh...I've already told you they left all this behind them to follow a career in music and dance

[Kizzy]

its an effective way to get media coverage yes

Why should the media be interested in the wailing of a few karens?

The complaints only gained trajectory following the media circus, and spurned handbag clutching from those who haven't even seen it. As you say turn the title into ashleys bandwagon. ..because that's all that's happened here.

There never was a case worthy of investigation, it was just the squealing of salty gammon urging those like them on that pushed up the number of complaints.

[Beso]

Ofcom is funded by public grants, how dare they ignore the concerns of over 25 thousand people!!

[AnnieK]

Ofcom is funded by public grants, how dare they ignore the concerns of over 25 thousand people!!

What do you think they should do??

[Beso]

What do you think they should do??

Investigate the complaints.

[Rob!]

Investigate the complaints.

What is there to investigate? Some black people did a dance about current world issues and racists complained. Case closed.

Glad to see ITV and OFCOM both throwing the complaints in the bin where they belong.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What is there to investigate? Some black people did a dance about current world issues and racists complained. Case closed.

Glad to see ITV and OFCOM both throwing the complaints in the bin where they belong.

Its not a "world issue" its an issue in the USA. It has zero bearings in the UK and as such was a totally bizarre topic and wholly unsuitable.

[Oliver_W]

Its not a "world issue" its an issue in the USA. It has zero bearings in the UK and as such was a totally bizarre topic and wholly unsuitable.

They can dance about what they like tbh :shrug:

If people don't like it they can not buy tickets to their live shows, and if enough people don't like it then tv shows can stop booking them. But if enough people do like them, the tv show will lose out on viewers.

Similar to how some bookstores are daft enough to not stock JK Rowling books in case it sends someone into a spiral of despair :laugh: If we can expect transpeople to be a grow up about a wad of paper with printing on it, I'm sure we can cope with dancers doing a dance ... no matter how daft it may be.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They can dance about what they like tbh :shrug:

If people don't like it they can not buy tickets to their live shows, and if enough people don't like it then tv shows can stop booking them. But if enough people do like them, the tv show will lose out on viewers.

Similar to how some bookstores are daft enough to not stock JK Rowling books in case it sends someone into a spiral of despair :laugh: If we can expect transpeople to be a grow up about a wad of paper with printing on it, I'm sure we can cope with dancers doing a dance ... no matter how daft it may be.

sure and people can tell them they are woke plonkers virtue signalling into an extreme left echo chamber

we love free speech

[Oliver_W]

sure and people can tell them they are woke plonkers virtue signalling into an extreme left echo chamber

we love free speech

Yup, I totally support people expressing their views - how kind of me :joker:

[Beso]

What is there to investigate? Some black people did a dance about current world issues and racists complained. Case closed.

Glad to see ITV and OFCOM both throwing the complaints in the bin where they belong.

It's more about the white performer..

Because they had black youths being persecuted in the dance routine it was saying that black youths are peraecuted...

May be true me be not?


But they had a white cop performer.. so that's saying white cops are bad to the viewer..


And it's not exactly a topic for prime time saturday night viewing anyway is it? The manslaughter of someone...:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's more about the white performer..

Because they had black youths being persecuted in the dance routine it was saying that black youths are peraecuted...

May be true me be not?


But they had a white cop performer.. so that's saying white cops are bad to the viewer..


And it's not exactly a topic for prime time saturday night viewing anyway is it? The manslaughter of someone...:shrug:


I have had videos deleted and infractions for posting similar videos "dont show images of people dying. 13 year olds look at tibb"

a lot younger watch bgt............

[Rob!]

Its not a "world issue" its an issue in the USA. It has zero bearings in the UK and as such was a totally bizarre topic and wholly unsuitable.

Yes, racism only exists in the United States.


I have had videos deleted and infractions for posting similar videos "dont show images of people dying. 13 year olds look at tibb"

a lot younger watch bgt............

If you can't tell the difference between a real video of someone dying and a dance then there's really no helping you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, racism only exists in the United States.






if you have evidence it was racism post it here:

[Oliver_W]

Yes, racism only exists in the United States.

How do you know it was a racist attack? The cop was restraining a violent and struggling man who had (allegedly) recently necked a bunch of drugs, where is the evidence his skin colour had anything to do with it?

[Rob!]

Show me proof the dance was worth complaining about.

[Oliver_W]

Show me proof the dance was worth complaining about.

I don't need to because I never claimed it was worth complaining about :shrug: whereas you did claim the cop was racist without any real proof.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't need to because I never claimed it was worth complaining about :shrug: whereas you did claim the cop was racist without any real proof.

:clap1:

[Rob!]

I don't need to provide evidence to argue with your ignorance. The world's reaction to it shows it was racism as well as the fact that the cop was charged with MURDER?

[Oliver_W]

I don't need to provide evidence to argue with your ignorance. The world's reaction to it shows it was racism as well as the fact that the cop was charged with MURDER?

I never said he wasn't a murderer. Do you think every murderer is a racist? People's reactions mean zip, as virtually any election will tell you. Where's the actual evidence the death was race related rather than circumstantial?

[Rob!]

I never said he wasn't a murderer. Do you think every murderer is a racist? People's reactions mean zip, as virtually any election will tell you. Where's the actual evidence the death was race related rather than circumstantial?

Oh, so you think that the fact that he was black was just a happy coincidence?

[Oliver_W]

Oh, so you think that the fact that he was black was just a happy coincidence?

I think he was resisting arrest and fighting a cop, and had just overdosed on drugs, and had been saying he couldn't breathe before he was restrained. What part of that do you think is race related?

[Rob!]

I think he was resisting arrest and fighting a cop, and had just overdosed on drugs, and had been saying he couldn't breathe before he was restrained. What part of that do you think is race related?

You’ve just admitted he was murdered...what do you think his killer was, just an overzealous vigilante?

[Oliver_W]

You’ve just admitted he was murdered...what do you think his killer was, just an overzealous vigilante?

I think he was a cop.

[Liam-]

Seeing as black people in America are 3x more likely to die at the hands of the police than white people, I think it is intrinsically a race issue when a black person is murdered by an officer

[Oliver_W]

Seeing as black people in America are 3x more likely to die at the hands of the police, I think it is intrinsically a race issue when a black person is murdered by an officer

Under a quarter pf people killed by the police in the USA were black last year

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/071D/production/_112612810_race_v4-nc.png

and what does that have to do with George Floyd? He only represents himself. His killer isn't all cops.

[Liam-]

Under a quarter pf people killed by the police in the USA were black last year

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/071D/production/_112612810_race_v4-nc.png

and what does that have to do with George Floyd? He only represents himself. His killer isn't all cops.

You realise that graph proves my point right?

Of course more white people are killed, because there are more of them, a quarter of the annual police killings belonging to a 13% minority of the population means they’re killed at a higher, disproportionate rate

[Oliver_W]

You realise that graph proves my point right?

Of course more white people are killed, because there are more of them, 25% of the annual police killings belonging to a 13% minority of the population means they’re killed at a higher, disproportionate rate

Because they're also over-represented in crime - who do you think is more likely to get arrested, people who do or do not commit crimes?

[Marsh.]

The evidence is common sense.

[Oliver_W]

The evidence is common sense.

How? He was violently resisting arrested and had allegedly taken drugs, how does that make the cop a racist?

[Marsh.]

How? He was violently resisting arrested and had allegedly taken drugs, how does that make the cop a racist?

"Allegedly"

Yet... he's dead.

[Oliver_W]

"Allegedly"

Yet... he's dead.

Again, I never denied the cop was a murderer :shrug: but when the only evidence that he was a racist is "the man was black", then it's more than a little flimsy.

[user104658]

I think there was MOST LIKELY a race element as a matter of opinion. However it is true to say (from what is available to the public, at least) that there is no direct evidence that it was race related. It will be hard if not impossible to prove at trial. Hopefully he will be convicted of murder 2 regardless.

[Beso]

I have had videos deleted and infractions for posting similar videos "dont show images of people dying. 13 year olds look at tibb"

a lot younger watch bgt............

That's the crux then matter though eh.


Saturday night prime time slot viewing has always been something families can enjoy together..to relax after a weeks work and a weeks school time..a time they can all get together...maybe it was Simon's last stance, who knows:shrug:

[Marsh.]

I have had videos deleted and infractions for posting similar videos "dont show images of people dying. 13 year olds look at tibb"

a lot younger watch bgt............

You're comparing Diversity dancing on BGT to posting videos of people dying?

:facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're comparing Diversity dancing on BGT to posting videos of people dying?

:facepalm:

Yes

[Beso]

If you can't tell the difference between a real video of someone dying and a dance then there's really no helping you.

An adult could, a child however already shocked by the actual real video could have those same shocked emotions triggered ...7 8 9 year olds etc...


If you have ever seen a beheading video as an adult you can just imagine how an child would see the original video and its shocking images.

[Beso]

You realise that graph proves my point right?

Of course more white people are killed, because there are more of them, a quarter of the annual police killings belonging to a 13% minority of the population means they’re killed at a higher, disproportionate rate

Would you agree all are criminals?

[user104658]

You're comparing Diversity dancing on BGT to posting videos of people dying?

:facepalm:

Yes

LT I feel that at this point, it's important to let you know that no members of Diversity were harmed during the filming of Britain's Got Talent. The cop was an actor and was playing a role, he did not kill any Diversity members, it was just part of the act. ITV apologizes if this was unclear and for any distress that may have been caused in the snuff confusion.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT I feel that at this point, it's important to let you know that no members of Diversity were harmed during the filming of Britain's Got Talent. The cop was an actor and was playing a role, he did not kill any Diversity members, it was just part of the act. ITV apologizes if this was unclear and for any distress that may have been caused in the snuff confusion.

Laugh it up TS

It's not a laughing matter

[Beso]

Laugh it up TS

It's not a laughing matter

Correct..

It has filled a generation of bgt viewers with hatred, be they racist arseholes or little black kids.

The dance routine has had that effect and it's not healthy..

[user104658]

Laugh it up TS

It's not a laughing matter

Equating a mediocre interpretive dance piece (I thought it was good overall, but the actual bit with the cop was a tad hamfisted) to ACTUAL videos of people being killed is quite funny.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohzdFtX36mvBhxtmg/giphy.gif

Oh no oh gosh the violence aaargh help :joker:.

Correct..

It has filled a generation of bgt viewers with hatred, be they racist arseholes or little black kids.

The dance routine has had that effect and it's not healthy..

I doubt kids understood it or gave a **** about it. If they did understand it, then they're already aware of the situation via the general media or by being told about it by adults around them, and so a dance about it is largely irrelevant.

[Beso]

Equating a mediocre interpretive dance piece (I thought it was good overall, but the actual bit with the cop was a tad hamfisted) to ACTUAL videos of people being killed is quite funny.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohzdFtX36mvBhxtmg/giphy.gif

Oh no oh gosh the violence aaargh help :joker:.



I doubt kids understood it or gave a **** about it. If they did understand it, then they're already aware of the situation via the general media or by being told about it by adults around them, and so a dance about it is largely irrelevant.



You doubt all you want..and speculate about children's feelings all you want...dont make you right though.

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/AshleyBanjo/status/1307234757797969921

:clap1:

[AnnieK]

You doubt all you want..and speculate about children's feelings all you want...dont make you right though.

Its doesn't make you right either Parm. My 9 year old watched, he thought it was a cool dance and that was the end of his thoughts on it. He saw all the George Floyd stuff on tv when it happened, he didn't really equate the two as being the same.

Kids TV now has equality and race adverts at practically every break, they know the score.

[user104658]

You doubt all you want..and speculate about children's feelings all you want...dont make you right though.

I'm just saying, the video did not feature any real violence or even anything that LOOKED like real violence, so comparing it to actual videos of extreme violence is an absolute joke. My daughter was, very unfortunately, shown a "viral video" of some poor chap blowing his head open with a shotgun a few weeks back... I obviously had to find the video to know what she had seen and it's burned into my eyeballs forever now.

Comparing something like that to a piece of interpretive dance is an absolute joke and really disingenuous.

If you don't want kids seeing actors depicting violent scnenes you'll need to complain to Ofcom about half of the kids shows on TV, cartoons, Superhero films, etc.

Kids (and people) can tell the difference between, and are affected very differently by, real despictions of violence and acted out ones/performances. That's not just opinion, there have been hundreds of massive scientific studies into this.

[Ammi]

Its doesn't make you right either Parm. My 9 year old watched, he thought it was a cool dance and that was the end of his thoughts on it. He saw all the George Floyd stuff on tv when it happened, he didn't really equate the two as being the same.

Kids TV now has equality and race adverts at practically every break, they know the score.

...from a ‘school/educational’ type perspective, Annie...this type of thing is very positive in the opening up classroom conversations../debates etc...similar to when we’ve had political elections .../...both here and in the USA ...(...many primary children have very definite Donald Trump opinions../ ...as they do with Boris Johnson and they are able to vocally reason their opinions, excellently ...)...so many significant political issues/events etc are totally appropriate for children if presented and introduced in the right way as an opening to discuss and to ask about etc../... I personally feel this was...helping and preparing children for their ‘Voting age’ in being more politically aware, as it were...is a good thing for familiars and schools...BLM related things are very much appropriate for all ages....and presented as dance was perfect for families to watch together, I thought...

[user104658]

BLM related things are very much appropriate for all ages....and presented as dance was perfect for families to watch together, I thought...

Hmmmmmm I think that's a little black and white (excuse the pun :joker: ) - I do think anything that aims to raise awareness and empathy for the situation is always appropriate for all ages. But I think anything that could be seen as a "call to direct action" or incitement is absolutely not appropriate for children and it would be a lie to say that there aren't BLM messages floating around that constitute incitement to violence or destruction of property. Whether or not those things are overall justified is a separate debate (we all know my feelings on the former, I'm more flexible on the latter) but no I don't think those things are appropriate for children.

Howeverrrrr the Diversity performance didn't contain those things by any stretch of the imagination, the dance was mostly observational and an expression of feeling and as you say, a conversation starter, a visual representation of the issues that had a totally non-aggressive depiction of a violent incident.

[Ammi]

...but that’s what I said though...presented and introduced in the right way, which I feel this was...there is obviously always going to be a ‘measure’ with children in what the focuses will be...

[Ammi]

..it will be interesting to see if there are any complaints sent about Alesha’s BLM necklace...

[The Slim Reaper]

Gallahads are still angry

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[Rob!]

Gallahads are still angry

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God this country is putrid these days.

[Marsh.]

An adult could, a child however already shocked by the actual real video could have those same shocked emotions triggered ...7 8 9 year olds etc...


If you have ever seen a beheading video as an adult you can just imagine how an child would see the original video and its shocking images.

Children shouldn't be watching the original video.
BGT or any other television show aren't there to think about people's children for them.