Wandavision

[Tom4784]

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I'm quite looking forward to this, it looks like the most unique thing MCU has done in years.

[user104658]

So it looks like the story is basically Wanda going a bit mad with grief, creating an imaginary world, and (because of her abilities) essentially it'll probably result in her willing aspects of that world into physical existence?

[Tom4784]

So it looks like the story is basically Wanda going a bit mad with grief, creating an imaginary world, and (because of her abilities) essentially it'll probably result in her willing aspects of that world into physical existence?

Looks to be that way, like a mini version of the House of M storyline from the comics.

[James]

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I'm quite looking forward to this, it looks like the most unique thing MCU has done in years.

There was an episode of Mr Robot, like that - an imagined sitcom.

[LukeB]

Really looking forward to this :love:

[LukeB]

The trouble with Disney+ the episodes are added weekly rather than all in one so you have to subscribe for like a month or two to watch the whole series.

[Marsh.]

The trouble with Disney+ the episodes are added weekly rather than all in one so you have to subscribe for like a month or two to watch the whole series.

Or just subscribe at the end to binge watch.

[LukeB]

First two episodes come out this friday then 1 ep a week after that

Might wait until all 9 episodes are out to watch as I don't really use disney+ much so i can't justify paying two months just to watch 1 show :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Just saw an ad on TV about this , I don't have Disney+ though .

[Ramsay]

Really enjoyed the first two eps and the feeling of impending doom.
help me Rhonda was an excellent song choice

[Ramsay]

how much did Disney+ bribe you for a positive review?

Two grams of cocaine and a trip to Disneyland florida up to 2023, are you jealous?

[Nicky91]

doesn't look like my cup of tea



the Olsens have never been my cup of tea either, and Liz here seems so similar to infamous sisters MK&A

[Tom4784]

I thought it was incredibly bizarre, and fantastic.

The way they've made each episode (so far) a sitcom from different eras is interesting and I like how well it's done. There's a lot of attention to detail here and I've got a main theory about what's going on.

I think Agnes is Mephisto, who is essentially Marvel's version of the Devil, and she's using Wanda's grief over Vision to fuel a descent into madness for Wanda and to force her powers to develop into something that can affect reality. The whole sitcom situation and Vision are illusions created by Wanda, it's all a safe space that she can hide from the fact that Vision is dead. I think the other people are just S.W.O.R.D agents and random people who have been pulled into Wanda's world and I think Agnes is there to stir the pot. The main things that point to this so far are that she seemingly knows that Wanda is the 'star of the show' and she makes allusions to the Devil at one point. I think Agnes is after Wanda's kids because she knows they'll be stupidly powerful.

I can't wait to see what happens next, it's really got me intrigued, if I have time, I might rewatch the first two episodes at some point this week to see if there's something else I missed.

[Wizard.]

just don't watch this

let this die a slow and painful death after only one season pls

:joker::joker: who died and made you exec of programming?

[Ramsay]

just don't watch this

let this die a slow and painful death after only one season pls

It's only a miniseries

[Ramsay]

Ep 4 is the best ep yet! So good!

[Niamh.]

Two grams of cocaine and a trip to Disneyland florida up to 2023, are you jealous?

:laugh2:


Watched the first 2 episodes, really enjoying it, it's very different and it's very funny

[Mystic Mock]

just don't watch this

let this die a slow and painful death after only one season pls

Tbf Nicky you can't tell people what they can and can't watch.

Personally it doesn't look like my kinda thing based off the trailer, but I honestly don't care if other people want to watch it.

Just enjoy the Shows that you do like Nicky and don't care what other people watch is basically my point.:laugh:

[Marsh.]

how much did Disney+ bribe you for a positive review?

doesn't look like my cup of tea



the Olsens have never been my cup of tea either, and Liz here seems so similar to infamous sisters MK&A

fantastic :umm2:

black/white is so outdated, belongs and should've stayed in 60's


also Vision looks like a dumb moron, amateur actor Paul Bettany :laugh3: that trailer is just soooooo horrible, amateurish, even i can make better series

just don't watch this

let this die a slow and painful death after only one season pls

oh i am, but whoever thought making a superhero sitcom was a good idea :umm2:

Fgs, shut the **** up, weirdo!

[Ramsay]

oh i am, but whoever thought making a superhero sitcom was a good idea :umm2:

It's a parody of sitcoms of the past, not a true sitcom
Small spoiler from latest episode
ep 4 wasn't a "sitcom" at all

[Tom4784]

Ugh, this show is getting better and better. Some spoilers from the latest episode and from the comics.

I noticed that they didn't figure out who Agnes and Dottie's real life counterparts were. If Agnes isn't Mephisto, then I definitely subscribe to the general belief that she's Agatha Harkness, who in the comics, is a powerful witch.

I love the fact that this is turning out to be a smaller scale version of the House of M storyline, although I reckon that Wanda's basically in a gilded cage, she has control over her surroundings and she likes it enough, but she's being kept there by an outside force.

[Tom4784]

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It'll be incredibly morbid for Marvel but I do think that Wanda's basically subconsciously controlling Vision's corpse like a marionette.

[James]

I watched the first 4 episodes and I'm fairly interested to see where they take it. It would have been better if they'd released all the episodes at once.

I liked seeing Kat Dennings and Randall Park from the previous films.

[Ramsay]

It would have been better if they'd released all the episodes at once.



I disagree, I like wondering what's going on and reading up on people's theories every week. Haven't watched anything in that sense since Lost back in the day

[Tony Montana]

I've been meaning to start this although I'm 4 episodes behind. Is it any good?

[user104658]

I disagree, I like wondering what's going on and reading up on people's theories every week. Haven't watched anything in that sense since Lost back in the dayI was the same with Lost, but that said, I rewatched from start to finish recently and have to say it comes together much better if you watch it all over a shorter time.

[James]

I'm not sure I would have continued with it if I had seen it week to week, instead of watching the first four episodes.

[James]

Episode 5.


The guy at the end was her brother from the X Men films? (haven't watched those).

I thought the best bit in the episode was when she had the soldiers/agents turn the guns on the head guy. That was quite chilling.

[user104658]

I'm not sure I would have continued with it if I had seen it week to week, instead of watching the first four episodes.I agree, it was losing me but the end of episode 3, and all of 4 and 5 are some of the best MCU content yet to be honest. And assume seriously dark stuff :umm2:Episode 5.


The guy at the end was her brother from the X Men films? (haven't watched those).

I thought the best bit in the episode was when she had the soldiers/agents turn the guns on the head guy. That was quite chilling.
Yes he plays the same character(ish), Quicksilver, from the X-men universe. But some fairly big differences, e.g. he's American not Sokovian, he's a mutant (and son of Magneto) not a product of an infinity stone, and Wanda is his younger sister not his twin. Also X-men universe was a lot (lot) faster than MCU version and wouldn't have been killed by poxy bullets... :hehe:. Honestly Quicksilver getting SHOT is one of my biggest MCU pet peeves. The kitchen scene from Xmen Days of Future Past for why!

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The question is... I'd be the X-men universe Quicksilver "pulled over" into this reality by Wanda, or is he just Wanda recreating her own brother and the casting is an Easter egg. :omgno:

[Tom4784]

In this instance it'll be an easter egg, I think, but I do think Wandavision will be key in bringing the X-Men into the MCU

[UserSince2005]

Don’t know anything about the Marvel universe apart from the two joker films. But I’ve really enjoyed this so far. Obviously really slow to start with and if it wasn’t for lockdown I doubt I’d have watched past the first episode but I like trying to work out what’s going on

[user104658]

I just watched a YouTube video about "hidden bits" and one really interesting thing is that the "previously on" bits at the start aren't always exactly what happened on the show, e.g. lines delivered slightly differently (with a blank face when it was a smile in the actual episode) etc.
I'm wondering if there's more in the first few episodes that was easy to miss but will stand out on a second viewing?

Reminds me of "Shutter Island" where on a second viewing, what's really going on is SO obvious :joker:

[Tom4784]

Loving the fact that the 90's sitcom was Malcolm in the Middle, I did think they'd do Roseanne but then I did forget about her deserved fall from grace. I thought it was an excellent episode over all.

I do think Agnes was faking being affected by Wanda during her conversation with Vision. She wasn't frozen in place like the others, she was waiting for him and she reacted completely differently to the man from last episode as well as others stuck in place.

I also liked how Vision, Wanda, Quicksilver and the kids were wearing their comic book outfits, it was a nice nod. I can't wait for the next three episodes.

[user104658]

I think that from the Halloween costume (witches hat) in this episode, we can surely be fairly confident that Agnes is Agatha Harkness and either unaffected by Wanda's control, or at least far less affected... My theory would be, she helped Wanda learn how to do this in the first place/guided her into doing it but then got caught up in it too with Wanda being more powerful than she expected, something like that...

I've also seen some theories that Evan Pietro might be Mephisto but I think some of the comments he's made make it seem like that might be a double-bluff. I do think though that "someone else" brought him into this little pocket reality, someone who didn't know which Quicksilver was the "right" one in the multiverse, and plucked the wrong physical appearance out of the Xmen universe.

I've also heard rumours that there's a "big cameo" appearance towards the end of the series and I reckon it's going to be Doc Strange, who will have to intervene to stop Wanda's pocket reality swallowing the world (as we've now seen she can expand it) and he'll dismantle it and take her away, which will then lead into Doctor Strange 2.

[James]

I think Agnes must have been faking the scene with Vision because there was no point in showing it otherwise. It would just repeat the previous scene with Norm.

I hope we get a decent motivation for how Hayward is behaving because he is starting to get a bit of a caricature as a bad guy. That's my only real criticism. Although (it seems) Wanda went back on her word to leave the outside alone if they left her, when she expanded the force-field to save Vision - or whatever Vision is.

[Tom4784]

I think we'll basically have two big bads that want each lead for different reasons.

I think you have Agnes/Agatha and Pietro/Mephisto who are looking to manipulate Wanda to create a situation where she magics her (very powerful) kids into existence and you've got Hayword who desperately wants to get Vision's remains back. He said when he was introduced that SWORD was looking more into robotics and AI, so I think he's simply trying to reverse engineer a bunch of Visions, or potentially, with X-Men presumably on the horizon, he may end up becoming the creator of the Sentinels.

[user104658]

I think interesting to note though, Agatha Harkness isn't really a villain or even anti-hero in Marvel lore... She's mostly been on "the right side" if sometimes or often having questionable methods. I don't think she's a victim but also don't think she's going to be a full-on villain here, more likely just has "other"/unknown motives.

[Tom4784]

It's true what they say, Disney really do give the best songs to the villains.

[UserSince2005]

Episode 7 bored me to death

[user104658]

Episode 7 bored me to deathI thought it was an OK episode but for anyone who follows marvel, the two "twists" were basically already known

1) Agnes being Agatha Harkness and pulling strings, even her killing the dog is straight out of the source material)

2) Monica Rambeau getting superpowers, as we already knew she was the Captain Marvel-adjacent hero, Photon.

That really sort of took the wind out of the sails for the episode overall.

[Tom4784]

It was the weakest episode, but it was still pretty damn watchable and Kathryn Hahn is just killing it in this show. It's fun just to watch her chew the scenery.

[James]

Wanda drives a very reasonably-priced car.

No Audi for her.

[Tom4784]

I really hope the last episode's decently long, I really enjoyed this episode but I dunno if they can wrap things up in a satisfying manner if it's only 30 minutes long.

[James]

Finale was okay.

[Marsh.]

Reminds me of "Shutter Island" where on a second viewing, what's really going on is SO obvious :joker:

Omg the nurse drinking "water" had me :eek:

[Tom4784]

Honestly, this is probably my favourite thing that MCU has ever done. I really looked forward to it every week.

I imagine the fact that the finale didn't really have any big twists will upset people but I really liked what they did here. I'm glad they didn't kill off Agatha because she's such a promising character and I hope they bring her back before long (which, given her popularity, seems a given).

I thought while the episode was simple, like last week's it had a real emotional punch to it. Honestly, they should just nominate Elizabeth Olsen for everything, as well as Paul Bettanny, as his physical clash turned philosophical debate with White Vision was another really good moment for him in a series that has just let him reel off strong performance after strong performance.

Also I loved everything to do with the Scarlet Witch, she's my favourite Marvel character and to see her realised fully onscreen was a delight. The costume is a shoot, it's reveal was excellent and the setup for Doctor Strange 2 has made it my most anticipated MCU film.

Honestly, one of my favourite shows in a while, I don't think Falcon & The Winter Soldier will live up to it, but I hope it will.

[Marsh.]

I loved Doctor Strange. So, do I need to watch this series to follow the second film. :nono:

[Tom4784]

I imagine so, you'll probably be a bit lost on what's happening with Wanda if you don't.

[Marsh.]

Oh fgs. :hmph:

[LukeB]

I loved Doctor Strange. So, do I need to watch this series to follow the second film. :nono:

You should watch it anyway because Wanda > Doctor Strange

[Tom4784]

I didn't like the first Doctor Strange, it was essentially the same film as Iron Man but with magic instead of technology, but the lead in from this show has me very intrigued.

[Marsh.]

That's probably why I enjoyed it. Never seen Iron Man. :worry:

[James]

I thought the finale was okay.

The final episode had a different tone from the previous eight, in that the series up until now had been about story and character, with a lot of inventive choices (like the sitcom parodies and fake adverts), but his was a lot more about action.

The action scenes felt to me kind of seen-it-all-before...


...with the superhero-film ending cliche of the good version of a superhero fighting the bad version, here repeated two or three times ie. the witches, Visions and even the government agents.


I did like some of the emotional and character moments.


However, even then when the force-field closed in, Wanda losing Vision was undercut by the fact they had made obvious that Vision is returning through the White Vision (and the post-credit scene).


Also, Marvel are constantly setting up future stories and...


...I don't think the first post-credits scene was necessary at the end of a TV series as it seemed to be a completely separate story.

[user104658]

I didn't like the first Doctor Strange, it was essentially the same film as Iron Man but with magic instead of technology, but the lead in from this show has me very intrigued.I like Doctor Strange as a character/hero but the main issue with the first film, I suppose as with many origin films, is that he wasn't really fully realised. And actually unlike most a origin films... Even at the end he wasn't really "there". The first appearance of actual Doctor Strange "The Sorcerer Supreme" and was Infinity War, and I think that plus WandaVision gives a much clearer view of the Doctor Strange franchise than the first film did. Essentially, I think it was enjoyable enough but it was very much a "setting the stage" movie. I feel more or less the same about the first Captain America. I didn't rate it at all as a standalone movie until after Avengers 1 and Winter Soldier.

[user104658]

I loved Doctor Strange. So, do I need to watch this series to follow the second film. :nono:Oh fgs. :hmph:Tbh if you're struggling with the style - while the first three episodes do add something to the overall experience - you could quite safely skip to episode 4 (when the story starts to become clearer) and not miss any overarching story.

Tbh if you know the basic premise (Wanda creates bubble sitcom-based alternate reality where she's a house wife married to vision and they have kids)... If you really just want a lead in for doc strange 2... You could get away with just watching 7-8-9.

The whole thing IS worth watching though :shrug:

[Marsh.]

Ok, gave this a chance and loved it. :shame:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Ok, gave this a chance and loved it. :shame:

Yer love it don’t yer ehh

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[Marsh.]

Yer love it don’t yer ehh

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[James]

I watched Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness on Disney+. It continues Wanda's story from this show. I wasn't really into it though apart from a few scenes and moments.

I think the more weird and supernatural Marvel gets, the less I like it.

One idea in the film I liked was that when you dream you are seeing a different version of yourself from another universe.

[bots]

i actually really enjoyed the new Doctor strange :laugh: