Do you believe in ghosts/ghost experiences/spooky stories etc...

[Ammi]

...as we’re about to enter the month of Halloween, do you believe in ghosts/..the supernatural etc...do you have any personal ghostly/spooky experiences or know of any with friends/relatives etc...


...have you ever seen a ghost...?...

[AnnieK]

I don't believe in ghosts as such....my Grandad was a grave digger and used to have to dig graves in the middle of the night for early morning funerals and he always said to us "you should never fear the dead, its the living who'll hurt you". Before he died he told me he would come back and let mw know if there was anything "on the other side". I spent the first 6 months after he died barely sleeping in case I woke up to him sat on the end of my bed :laugh:

After he died though, there was sometimes a smell of cigarette smoke in the house - none of us smoked but he used to when he came to stay with us. I've smelt my mums perfume too but I don't know whether thats just wishful thinking

[arista]

Yes I have walked in a Haunted Zone
I had to leave that area.

[Ammi]

I don't believe in ghosts as such....my Grandad was a grave digger and used to have to dig graves in the middle of the night for early morning funerals and he always said to us "you should never fear the dead, its the living who'll hurt you". Before he died he told me he would come back and let mw know if there was anything "on the other side". I spent the first 6 months after he died barely sleeping in case I woke up to him sat on the end of my bed :laugh:

After he died though, there was sometimes a smell of cigarette smoke in the house - none of us smoked but he used to when he came to stay with us. I've smelt my mums perfume too but I don't know whether thats just wishful thinking

...I actually hear my dad’s voice... I mean hear it clearly as if he was standing right next to me...when I read an expression or something that he would have said or very similar things...that isn’t a ghost story, it’s just a by the by...and when I’ve got stuff going on in my head that I’m struggling with../...worries etc..?...I’ve often heard him saying...well then now my love, let’s see here....let’s get this all in order one step at a time...

[joeysteele]

I've always kept an open mind on this.

There's things happened, I've been told about and things happen I've come across myself.
For which there was no explanation for.

This has left me with the more believing in it than not, yes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

no of course not

anecdotal stories about ghosts are told by the teller to add status and make them seem more interesting, a very human trait

often stories were told to keep children safe and away from dangerous things at night etc


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[joeysteele]

...I actually hear my dad’s voice... I mean hear it clearly as if he was standing right next to me...when I read an expression or something that he would have said or very similar things...that isn’t a ghost story, it’s just a by the by...and when I’ve got stuff going on in my head that I’m struggling with../...worries etc..?...I’ve often heard him saying...well then now my love, let’s see here....let’s get this all in order one step at a time...


I haven't ever said myself except in private conversation with another, things I've come across.

Because there's always those who just dismiss, ridicule and put down those having any experiences.

I'd guess if there are spirits, ghosts , whatever anyone wishes to term them, or anything from another existence.
Then they'll have their reasons for making anything known to any physical being they visit.

Equally their reasons for never going anywhere near any closed view sceptics.

Until I was 15, I may have discounted things people have said.
However as I said before, I've had things happen in my life, which have no real explanation to it.
So my mind was opened in my later teens.

Your post above Ammi sounds a very comforting set of instances of thought or who really knows, much more to them.
I would guess too, if I may, that maybe those thoughts and words fly in from you not even thinking of the person at the time.

I'll never forget after I lost my Grandmother I was devoted to.
I was talking to some friends while at Uni, I'd just done really well in a particular part of the course.
We were sitting in a park, I said, '' I wished my Grandmother could have been able to read how well I'd done ''.

An elderly lady walking past, just smiled at us, and said, '' now how do you know she hasn't and can't see all you'll achieve''.

It's a line that's stuck with me since.

Now the cynics and those who just poo poo anything of the supernatural, will just dismiss that as fanciful madness.

However that started to have me open my mind more.
Then as I say, privately I've come across things, I can't explain and neither can others, other than just dismiss or ridicule.
So I only talk about other instances privately.

So as not to fuel, dismissiveness and it's all nonsense, when to others, it isn't or may be far from it.

Even before I opened my own mind to this, while I doubted things people had said to me up to 15.
I still listened to them, rather than just treat them as paranoid or insecure individuals, just because I at that time I didn't myself share their views from their experiences.

[Ammi]

I haven't ever said myself except in private conversation with another, things I've come across.

Because there's always those who just dismiss, ridicule and put down those having any experiences.

I'd guess if there are spirits, ghosts , whatever anyone wishes to term them, or anything from another existence.
Then they'll have their reasons for making anything known to any physical being they visit.

Equally their reasons for never going anywhere near any closed view sceptics.

Until I was 15, I may have discounted things people have said.
However as I said before, I've had things happen in my life, which have no real explanation to it.
So my mind was opened in my later teens.

Your post above Ammi sounds a very comforting set of instances of thought or who really knows, much more to them.
I would guess too, if I may, that maybe those thoughts and words fly in from you not even thinking of the person at the time.

I'll never forget after I lost my Grandmother I was devoted to.
I was talking to some friends while at Uni, I'd just done really well in a particular part of the course.
We were sitting in a park, I said, '' I wished my Grandmother could have been able to read how well I'd done ''.

An elderly lady walking past, just smiled at us, and said, '' now how do you know she hasn't and can't see all you'll achieve''.

It's a line that's stuck with me since.

Now the cynics and those who just poo poo anything of the supernatural, will just dismiss that as fanciful madness.

However that started to have me open my mind more.
Then as I say, privately I've come across things, I can't explain and neither can others, other than just dismiss or ridicule.
So I only talk about other instances privately.

So as not to fuel, dismissiveness and it's all nonsense, when to others, it isn't or may be far from it.

Even before I opened my own mind to this, while I doubted things people had said to me up to 15.
I still listened to them, rather than just treat them as paranoid or insecure individuals, just because I at that time I didn't myself share their views from their experiences.



...the human of limits and measures dismissing something without limits and measures, eh Joey...such a strange notion...

...with your grandmother..?...she passed in the complete confidence and belief in you that you would always do well...so no reading that was ever necessary..because she knew..?...is I guess, the thing...

[Liam-]

Yes, my house is haunted

[Ammi]

...did you see/hear anything etc of your hauntings, Liam...?...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, my house is haunted

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[user104658]

I don't believe in ghosts because the human persona is so clearly (and demonstrably) linked to the physical and chemical structure of the brain. A "person" can be changed completely with chemicals or by a physical brain injury (either trauma, or a tumor, or deliberate i.e. lobotomy) SO it makes no sense that after the brain-meat has burned or rotted there's anything left of a personality... a "soul" that contains any aspect of the person it came from.

However on the wider "supernatural", I do believe in the possibility of overlapping dimensions, and also in the near-certainty that there's more to physical existence than can be perceived by human senses or observed with current human technology. I mean, that's basically just fact. So in that sense, it's possible that there are things in existence that we can't see or comprehend, and I guess also possible that those could "bleed over" in certain circumstances. It's not really "supernatural" though, just science we don't know yet. "Magic is just science that we don't understand yet", and all that stuff.

[bots]

Santa occupies another dimension too

[Ammi]

...explanations for the ‘unexplainable’ etc, personal experiences and stories as well...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Santa occupies another dimension too

well that is dealt with by quantum physics of course

[Liam-]

...did you see/hear anything etc of your hauntings, Liam...?...

Yeah, we’ve heard voices, seen figures walking through doorways, I’ve personally had something thrown at me out of nowhere, like has been said we get really strong wafts of loved ones aftershave and stuff, it’s creepy sometimes but we know who it is so it’s fine

[Ammi]

Yeah, we’ve heard voices, seen figures walking through doorways, I’ve personally had something thrown at me out of nowhere, like has been said we get really strong wafts of loved ones aftershave and stuff, it’s creepy sometimes but we know who it is so it’s fine

...obviously you don’t have to say, Liam and that’s cool..but would the connection be more personal to you/your family or to the house...

[user104658]

Yeah, we’ve heard voices, seen figures walking through doorways, I’ve personally had something thrown at me out of nowhere, like has been said we get really strong wafts of loved ones aftershave and stuff, it’s creepy sometimes but we know who it is so it’s fine

That's called schizophrenia.

[Liam-]

...obviously you don’t have to say, Liam and that’s cool..but would the connection be more personal to you/your family or to the house...

Mainly to our family personally, but there have been things happen as well where there’s zero possibility of it being connected to us, that was the one that really freaked us out.

My parents have actually been talking about having a psychic come in to see what they think, because they just want to see whether they say anything about it.

[Ammi]

Mainly to our family personally, but there have been things happen as well where there’s zero possibility of it being connected to us, that was the one that really freaked us out.

My parents have actually been talking about having a psychic come in to see what they think, because they just want to see whether they say anything about it.

...yeah that would be really interesting if your parents didn’t give any specifics of information and just see if something connects from the psychic.../...spooky...

[user104658]

Could also be a small carbon monoxide leak if it's all in the same house.

That's not even a joke :umm2:.

[Liam-]

That's called schizophrenia.

Could also be a small carbon monoxide leak if it's all in the same house.

That's not even a joke :umm2:.

Mock as you please

...yeah that would be really interesting if your parents didn’t give any specifics of information and just see if something connects from the psychic.../...spooky...

I’m personally very sceptical about psychics, I think they throw out the vaguest things possible and hope something lands, but my parents believe in them and they were so freaked out by what they saw that they think it’s worth a shot

[Zizu]

...as we’re about to enter the month of Halloween, do you believe in ghosts/..the supernatural etc...do you have any personal ghostly/spooky experiences or know of any with friends/relatives etc...





...have you ever seen a ghost...?...



Na ... there is absolutely not one thread of evidence supporting the theory that ghosts / UFOs/ aliens / telekinesis/ levitation etc etc exists ..


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[Ammi]

Na ... there is absolutely not one thread of evidence supporting the theory that ghosts / UFOs/ aliens / telekinesis/ levitation etc etc exists ..


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...this is TiBB, Zizu...our threads don’t need evidence, they just need our presence, our will and our want and personal experience if any have been had etc...

[Jessica.]

Not at all, it must be exciting though

[Ammi]

Mock as you please



I’m personally very sceptical about psychics, I think they throw out the vaguest things possible and hope something lands, but my parents believe in them and they were so freaked out by what they saw that they think it’s worth a shot

...I know of quite a well known physic who passed quite recently and wow at how many attended the funeral..(...this was pre Covid times..)...and how much they were respected and loved ...so many people have great belief in them...I guess it’s based on the same thing, though..we can’t generalise because some will ‘throw out’ as you say but that doesn’t for me dismiss something that they may be able to ‘harness’ in a way that most people can’t...

[Liam-]

...I know of quite a well known physic who passed quite recently and wow at how many attended the funeral..(...this was pre Covid times..)...and how much they were respected and loved ...so many people have great belief in them...I guess it’s based on the same thing, though..we can’t generalise because some will ‘throw out’ as you say but that doesn’t for me dismiss something that they may be able to ‘harness’ in a way that most people can’t...

Yeah that’s true, I’ve been to see psychic Sally twice, the first time she was amazing, the second time, she was bunk and didn’t get anything right, there are ones out there that can be accurate and give great readings for sure, but it’s basically the bad ones and conpeople that give them a bad name

[user104658]

Mock as you please


I'm not mocking, the vast majority of supernatural encounters with voices or a visual component are schizophrenia, and slow-leak carbon monoxide has been found to be responsible for the hallucinations associated with "supernatural encounters" on several occasions. It can also cause memory loss and paranoia.

[Zizu]

Yeah that’s true, I’ve been to see psychic Sally twice, the first time she was amazing, the second time, she was bunk and didn’t get anything right, there are ones out there that can be accurate and give great readings for sure, but it’s basically the bad ones and conpeople that give them a bad name



Well just about every psychic have been caught cheating on loads of occasions .. just open up YouTube and search their name and cheating / debunking to see the clips ..


James Randi is the guy to research if anyone is interested in all the cheats and scams .. he’s the guy who showed that Uri Gellar was a cheat - LIVE in American telly

https://youtu.be/Kor_L12bBB0


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[user104658]

Sally whatever she’s called and just about every other psychic have been caught cheating on loads of occasions .. just open up YouTube and search her name and cheating / debunking to see the clips ..


Well yes that's because psychic powers aren't real, so the only difference between a psychic who hasn't been caught cheating and a psychic who has been caught cheating, is that the one who hasn't is better at cheating...

[user104658]

Don't get me wrong a lot of it is quite impressive and a lot of fun, but it's the same as any magician... it's psychological illusions and purely for entertainment. For me, as with magicians, the fun is in trying to figure out how the "trick" is done.

[Liam-]

Sorry Mr ‘two dimensions’

[Zizu]

Don't get me wrong a lot of it is quite impressive and a lot of fun, but it's the same as any magician... it's psychological illusions and purely for entertainment. For me, as with magicians, the fun is in trying to figure out how the "trick" is done.



They get thousands ( even millions ) out of gullible/ susceptible / vulnerable people though .. that’s the tragedy


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[Ammi]

Yeah that’s true, I’ve been to see psychic Sally twice, the first time she was amazing, the second time, she was bunk and didn’t get anything right, there are ones out there that can be accurate and give great readings for sure, but it’s basically the bad ones and conpeople that give them a bad name

..yeah it’s always the ‘bad’ in everything that have the greatest voice to form opinions on the overall, you know..I went to a clairvoyant when I was younger...it was not something I intended to do, more an ‘accidental or coincidence’, type thing...I don’t know how to explain it....but wow, it was just unbelievable in my own one personal experience...nothing at all that could have possibly just ‘thrown out there’, you know...

[user104658]

Sorry Mr ‘two dimensions’

Multi-dimensional theory is based in very real science :shrug:. Someone's nan claiming to be having a chat with your great uncle from World War 2 is ITV2 afternoon telly.

[Liam-]

Multi-dimensional theory is based in very real science :shrug:. Someone's nan claiming to be having a chat with your great uncle from World War 2 is ITV2 afternoon telly.

You know what, for someone that claims to want to be able to have free, open and amicable debates, you spend a lot of your time mocking and taking down to people for beliefs and opinions that don’t align with yours

[Liam-]

..yeah it’s always the ‘bad’ in everything that have the greatest voice to form opinions on the overall, you know..I went to a clairvoyant when I was younger...it was not something I intended to do, more an ‘accidental or coincidence’, type thing...I don’t know how to explain it....but wow, it was just unbelievable in my own one personal experience...nothing at all that could have possibly just ‘thrown out there’, you know...

My sister went to one recently and she was given a recording of it and honestly, the things the woman came out with, you wouldn’t be able to just pull from thin air, all she had was her first name and it was amazing, every now and then you get one that just blows you away and yes, it’s not exactly life changing, but at least it’s extremely comforting

[Crimson Dynamo]

My sister went to one recently and she was given a recording of it and honestly, the things the woman came out with, you wouldn’t be able to just pull from thin air, all she had was her first name and it was amazing, every now and then you get one that just blows you away and yes, it’s not exactly life changing, but at least it’s extremely comforting

just did some research prior...


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[Niamh.]

My sister went to one recently and she was given a recording of it and honestly, the things the woman came out with, you wouldn’t be able to just pull from thin air, all she had was her first name and it was amazing, every now and then you get one that just blows you away and yes, it’s not exactly life changing, but at least it’s extremely comforting

I really don't believe in any of this stuff but I did go to a psychic years ago and one thing she said to me was so specific, down to actual names, I still can't figure it out. She got a lot wrong as well but this one thing she got right was really bizarre and pretty creepy tbh

[Liam-]

I really don't believe in any of this stuff but I did go to a psychic years ago and one thing she said to me was so specific, down to actual names, I still can't figure it out. She got a lot wrong as well but this one thing she got right was really bizarre and pretty creepy tbh

Yeah it’s bizarre, this one got names right, obscure nicknames, health situations, family relationships, she even got details about items passed down after someone died right and it was just amazing, 60 quid a pop mind but, she was easily the best we’ve heard of

[Ammi]

I really don't believe in any of this stuff but I did go to a psychic years ago and one thing she said to me was so specific, down to actual names, I still can't figure it out. She got a lot wrong as well but this one thing she got right was really bizarre and pretty creepy tbh

...this is what I mean...it was so creepy that I never went to one again but I’m always interested in the experiences of others because I can’t be sceptical either...(...not of all, anyway...)...mine didn’t get anything wrong because she didn’t give anything general, everything was specific and everything either was or became correct and as she said...and she asked me nothing at all...all she asked me was to shuffle some cards...just playing cards, not Tarot...

[Ammi]

...open mind, really...enough to make me never want to see a clairvoyant again...

[joeysteele]

My sister went to one recently and she was given a recording of it and honestly, the things the woman came out with, you wouldn’t be able to just pull from thin air, all she had was her first name and it was amazing, every now and then you get one that just blows you away and yes, it’s not exactly life changing, but at least it’s extremely comforting

I've never been to a psychic or clarvoyant. Liam.

Your accounts are really fascinating.
As I said my mind was opened to things in my late teens.
I wouldn't choose to even as I entered my teens mock others experiences.

Sometimes I think those who dismiss it and all others experiences, possibly have a fear of it actually being real.

Anyone having experiences of what even science and scientists cannot explain.

Chemicals in the brain as someone's dying, well not all have that happen anyway
Then in comes to the madness element of schizophrenia or other mental disorders being cited as reasoning by sceptics.

With not a hint of any mental imbalance whatsoever of those who have had experiences.

I think this a fascinating subject.
Even moreso since I opened up my own mind more and listened to others.
After the odd and unexplained things I've come across personally.

Thank you for sharing your feelings and touching on your experiences.
Full respect to you from myself.

[Zizu]

https://www.thrillist.com/amphtml/culture/7-tricks-psychics-and-mediums-use-how-psychics-use-cold-reading-the-forer-effect


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[Josy]

I believe in residual energies

[Marsh.]

Na ... there is absolutely not one thread of evidence supporting the theory that ghosts / UFOs/ aliens / telekinesis/ levitation etc etc exists ..


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Well I suppose it depends on your definition of "alien" but "no evidence"?

[Zizu]

Well I suppose it depends on your definition of "alien" but "no evidence"?



Oh come on there hasn’t been one even half decent photo or video of a ghost or UFO or whatever ... even though just about every human walking the planet now have a quality camera on their person .

There’s a fund of ONE MILLION DOLLARS available in the USA ( it’s been on offer for 25 years ) .. for anyone who can prove - in scientific conditions - the existence of anything paranormal, ghostly , UFOs , levitation, mind reading , telekinesis etc

It’s never had to pay out a single penny / cent .

Google James Randi




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[Marsh.]

Oh come on there hasn’t been one even half decent photo or video of a ghost or UFO or whatever ... even though just about every human walking the planet now have a quality camera on their person .

There’s a fund of ONE MILLION DOLLARS available in the USA ( it’s been on offer for 25 years ) .. for anyone who can prove - in scientific conditions - the existence of anything paranormal, ghostly , UFOs , levitation, mind reading , telekinesis etc

It’s never had to pay out a single penny / cent .

Google James Randi




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I said "alien" as in life on other planets.

Not really in the same realm as telekinesis and ghosts.

[LaLaLand]

I believe in residual energies

This really.

I’ve had a couple of “spooky experiences” (one more comforting than spooky actually, made me cry) But I wouldn’t say I believe in “ghosts” exactly, just that energy can sort of stay around a place.

I once had an EXTREMELY accurate and spooky reading from a medium once though. Was scary - names, descriptions, jobs, family nicknames that nobody else would know etc.

[Zizu]

This really.



I’ve had a couple of “spooky experiences” (one more comforting than spooky actually, made me cry) But I wouldn’t say I believe in “ghosts” exactly, just that energy can sort of stay around a place.



I once had an EXTREMELY accurate and spooky reading from a medium once though. Was scary - names, descriptions, jobs, family nicknames that nobody else would know etc.



Google ‘ cold reading’


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[Ninastar]

I do, but only certain things. Had stuff happen to me. Not fun and I think I’m a little scarred from it honestly. Can’t watch anything paranormal/ghost related

[LaLaLand]

Google ‘ cold reading’


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None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around. :skull:

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.

[Zizu]

None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around. :skull:

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.



Did you just walk in off the street or did you book an appointment in advance ??


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[rusticgal]

Yes I do. A few unusual things have happened since my mum passed away. My brother also experienced paranormal things in an old house he bought many years ago...and he was a massive disbeliever. My friend also experienced such things in her old house.

[Zizu]

Yes I do. A few unusual things have happened since my mum passed away. My brother also experienced paranormal things in an old house he bought many years ago...and he was a massive disbeliever. My friend also experienced such things in her old house.



Old buildings are always ‘noisy’ though , for a number of reasons .


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[LaLaLand]

Did you just walk in off the street or did you book an appointment in advance ??


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Walk-in, completely out of the blue. He didn't know me or anything about me.

[LaLaLand]

A really comforting "experience" I had I remember so vividly was when I was about 12 years old.

I was lying on the sofa one night watching wrestling on Sky and my lovely dog that I'd had my whole life and grew up with had passed away a few days before at the grand old age of 14. My sister was upstairs in her room and my parents were out somewhere, think at a relatives, so there was only me downstairs at home.

Anyway, my dog used to sleep in front of the back door in the kitchen on his bed and when he was dreaming and did that galloping thing dogs do his claws would bang and scratch on the metal bin in the kitchen next to him, and made a really loud, distinct sound.

Anyway, I was lying there and "the noise" happened...

Didn't scare me at all it was comforting in a way if anything to hear it, was as if he was just popping in to say he's alright or something, like a nice "goodbye". Remember giggling after it happened. Bless him. :love:

[Zizu]

Walk-in, completely out of the blue. He didn't know me or anything about me.



Mmmm. Has to be ‘old school’ cold reading techniques then as they wouldn’t have been able to check on you online (Facebook , Instagram , Twitter etc )

If these con artists could speak with the dead and predict the future - they’d all be billionaires so I don’t really think they’d be working in shoddy little rooms charging some poor sod £25 for a reading ..


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[rusticgal]

Old buildings are always ‘noisy’ though , for a number of reasons .


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No my brother actually saw a figure in the room of the old lady who lived and died there.

[user104658]

If these con artists could speak with the dead and predict the future - they’d all be billionaires so I don’t really think they’d be working in shoddy little rooms charging some poor sod £25 for a reading ..


Well that's the thing isn't it Zizu... if it was real these people with this "rare gift" would be worth millions and would be working on the payroll of governments and large companies... none of them are... they're in carnival tents and - if they're especially good at it - maybe booking out lecture halls etc... the only sensible conclusion is that it isn't real.

There's also the spanner-in-the-works of there being several high-profile people who are very skilled at it - more skilled than your average Mystic Meg in a hut outside Tesco - who do these reading techniques on people and amaze them whilst freely admitting that it is NOT in any way supernatural.

[Niamh.]

Well that's the thing isn't it Zizu... if it was real these people with this "rare gift" would be worth millions and would be working on the payroll of governments and large companies... none of them are... they're in carnival tents and - if they're especially good at it - maybe booking out lecture halls etc... the only sensible conclusion is that it isn't real.

There's also the spanner-in-the-works of there being several high-profile people who are very skilled at it - more skilled than your average Mystic Meg in a hut outside Tesco - who do these reading techniques on people and amaze them whilst freely admitting that it is NOT in any way supernatural.

maybe they are and we just don't know :hee:

[user104658]

maybe they are and we just don't know :hee:

I mean if there are psychics in the government they're not doing a very good job :joker:

[bots]

your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.

[joeysteele]

Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.

[rusticgal]

your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.


My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....:smug:

[bots]

My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....:smug:

and he could hear the wind blowing and an old door creaking in the background :laugh:

i'm pretty open minded on it all actually, it would be really good fun if it were true, I like the idea of haunting some poor beggar in 300 years time

[Zizu]

your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.



Exactly


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[Zizu]

Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.



You make some fair points ...

Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention


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[user104658]

Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention


For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

[joeysteele]

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

Those who claim to have come across ghosts, spirits whatever anyone wants to call them.

Are wrong to you maybe, however it doesn't make THEM wrong just because of that.

To you an unexplained experience doesn't mean a spirit or other supernatural being.
I think those who have said they HAVE however, have another meaning to what they themselves have witnessed.

[Zizu]

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.



Totally agree ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

It boils down to

do you think you are right and the entire laws of science as we know them are wrong?

or perhaps you may have been mistaken?

[joeysteele]

My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....:smug:


That's an incredible account.
I'd like to see science, explain that.

A house your Brother had never lived in.
Didn't know the lady.
Could describe her perfectly.

Only confirmed by a relative.
No wonder he was freaked out when it occurred.

[Zizu]

Relax ... they’re clouds..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201002/ec26f315f03d04056937a30a2eb14b74.jpg


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Relax ... they’re clouds..

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:laugh2:

[user104658]

Those who claim to have come across ghosts, spirits whatever anyone wants to call them.

Are wrong to you maybe, however it doesn't make THEM wrong just because of that.

To you an unexplained experience doesn't mean a spirit or other supernatural being.
I think those who have said they HAVE however, have another meaning to what they themselves have witnessed.

If ghosts aren't real, they aren't real... they're not real for some people and not for others; that's just called imagination.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm amazed with phones we have no video evidence

Oh wait

I'm not

[joeysteele]

If ghosts aren't real, they aren't real... they're not real for some people and not for others; that's just called imagination.

I disagree.
I don't think it's just as black and white as that.

I don't and wouldn't discount the rational accounts of others as simply to just easily to put down as imagination.
No way would I.

[rusticgal]

Most of the time things happen that are a great comfort to people that have lost someone dear. I lost my mum in February and a couple of weeks after her funeral I went to bed thinking of her...I wished for her to give me a sign that she was with me. I waited and then eventually closed my eyes then heard the light go on in our ensuite bathroom. It's a sensor light...maybe something triggered it like a moth etc but in the 6 years we have had it it had never happened before Coincidence?...probably...but it was kind of reassuring and comforting. Two weeks later I woke up to find an extremely heavy mirror in my bedroom had been lifted off its mount and was resting against the wall propped up on the linen basket below....it spooked us all out completely. How do you explain that if both my sons and husband swore they had not touched it??

[Ammi]

...as you say, Rusti...the sensor light..?..could have been something of the coincidence of you having been observant to the ‘sign’...so, like the sensor light your attachment/association etc also being triggered by something of the unfamiliar...?..we encounter the unfamiliar as a very frequent thing in our lives, I feel...but that unfamiliar often and mostly goes unnoticed because we have no personal attachments of thought to it...?... we were not looking and thinking of ‘signs’ so the less familiar or unfamiliar just slips on by us.../...is what I feel anyway...but as I say, we attach our own meanings and that’s how it should be because where do personal ‘life meanings’ ever have a place if that wasn’t how it was and it was all done and dusted and placed in a box...

...the mirror, though...?...if there was no sign of the mount having been broken or bent or anything and everything was in place as always with the mount And it had held for a very long time../...then yeah, a bit spooky... maybe one of those very small earthquake/freak of nature, type things...that didn’t blow your house down but was enough to blow the mirror down with everything else staying in place etc...?...mirror, mirror on the wall...who is the freakiest of them all...well mirror in my bedroom, you are.../freaky mirror...

[joeysteele]

Most of the time things happen that are a great comfort to people that have lost someone dear. I lost my mum in February and a couple of weeks after her funeral I went to bed thinking of her...I wished for her to give me a sign that she was with me. I waited and then eventually closed my eyes then heard the light go on in our ensuite bathroom. It's a sensor light...maybe something triggered it like a moth etc but in the 6 years we have had it it had never happened before Coincidence?...probably...but it was kind of reassuring and comforting. Two weeks later I woke up to find an extremely heavy mirror in my bedroom had been lifted off its mount and was resting against the wall propped up on the linen basket below....it spooked us all out completely. How do you explain that if both my sons and husband swore they had not touched it??


Sceptics sadly will argue someone must have done the mirror.
Never considering anything else is even possible.

As you ask however, what is the explanation of that.

Okay a sensor light could have been triggered by something like a moth say.
Then you state, it hadn't happened before.
So again the sceptics will say for sure that's what it was.

Yet 2 things you highlight, have happened that never happened before.

As I said I opened my thinking on things like this at 15.
It's a fascinating subject.
The more I hear from others, then things I've come across leave me more to push out just thinking it as coincidence.
Neither to just discount others experiences too.

They are real unexplained incidents.
Thank you for putting them out there on here.
Really interesting.

[Zizu]

Proof??


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CGMpBmNnYDg/?igshid=1wt4ocx8ccrlf


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[Niamh.]

Proof??


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CGMpBmNnYDg/?igshid=1wt4ocx8ccrlf


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That's just the bridges reflection :oh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Sceptics sadly will argue someone must have done the mirror.
Never considering anything else is even possible.

As you ask however, what is the explanation of that.

Okay a sensor light could have been triggered by something like a moth say.
Then you state, it hadn't happened before.
So again the sceptics will say for sure that's what it was.

Yet 2 things you highlight, have happened that never happened before.

As I said I opened my thinking on things like this at 15.
It's a fascinating subject.
The more I hear from others, then things I've come across leave me more to push out just thinking it as coincidence.
Neither to just discount others experiences too.

They are real unexplained incidents.
Thank you for putting them out there on here.
Really interesting.

I think the problem with anecdotes like rusti's, is that they're pretty meaningless to anyone else and require the pattern-seeking human brain to create them. That's not to dismiss what rg wrote, it's just that we don't know anything else about these incidents that happened at a time when her brain was under immense stress dealing with grief.

I always find it odd that these communications come from a supernatural realm, and although they may be able to move mirrors a couple of inches, they are unable to write on a pad or a steamed mirror. As early humans, we had to assume patterns in everything, as not making out the face of a predator at dusk would have meant being a meal. Stare at a patterned wall or floor for long enough and you'll find faces in there too. It's just the way our brains have evolved.

[Zizu]

That's just the bridges reflection :oh:



:)


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[Zizu]

As early humans, we had to assume patterns in everything, as not making out the face of a predator at dusk would have meant being a meal. Stare at a patterned wall or floor for long enough and you'll find faces in there too. It's just the way our brains have evolved.


That’s so true... I see familiar things in clouds , wallpaper patterns etc



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[The Slim Reaper]

That’s so true... I see familiar things in clouds , wallpaper patterns etc



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That's probably all the LSD you do though, zeez. :smug:

[Ammi]

The Dakota, an apartment building in New York City, has been home to many rich and famous residents since it opened back in 1884. John Lennon and Yoko Ono moved into the building in 1973, and John was also assassinated outside the structure on December 8, 1980. Before his death, John claimed he saw a "crying lady ghost" roaming the halls. Then, after John died, Yoko, who still lives in the building, said she witnessed John's ghost sitting at his piano. Yoko says John told her: "Don't be afraid. I am still with you."

[Ammi]

If you're a scary-movie lover, you might actually know about the Bell Witch. The films An American Haunting and The Blair Witch Project are both based on the story. Way back in the early 1800s, a man named John Bell moved his family to an area in Tennessee called Red River, which is now known as Adams, Tennessee. After they had settled in the new home, some peculiar things started happening. The Bell family began hearing some bizarre noises, including dogs barking, chains rattling, rats chewing, and a woman whispering. Soon, that woman became known as the Bell Witch, and many people believe she's the ghost of a former neighbor of the Bell's, Kate Batts. Batts and the Bells had a dispute over land, and she had sworn vengeance on the Bell family before she died. Later on, Bell died from poisoning, and it's rumored to be the work of the Bell Witch.

[Ammi]

Spend the night in the haunted Crescent Hotel in Eureka Springs, Arkansas, which opened in 1886. (During construction, a worker named Michael was killed, and his ghost reportedly still haunts room 218.) The hotel came under the ownership of known medical fraud Norman Baker in 1937, who fancied himself a doctor. He turned the hotel into the Baker Cancer Hospital, claiming to have the cure for the disease (he did not, obviously). Patients who died under his care were buried right in the hotel's basement, which served as a makeshift morgue. He was arrested in 1940, but his patients' spirits are said to still remain. Because the hotel is still open, guests often say they see apparitions and hear noises during their stays. SyFy's Ghost Hunters even has footage of something moving in the basement.

[Ammi]

https://www.countryliving.com/life/g3793/scary-ghost-stories/

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a39179/five-real-life-horror-stories/

[Zizu]

That's probably all the LSD you do though, zeez. :smug:



I don’t even touch alcohol never mind drugs ..


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[The Slim Reaper]

I don’t even touch alcohol never mind drugs ..


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Good to know.

[GoldHeart]

I have never really experienced anything spooky first hand as such, but i do believe there's ghosts and that spirits leave a print . But i find it incredibly hard to believe you can communicate with them , i think what you see is just a replay :shrug: .