Donald and Melania Trump test positive for COVID19

[Ammi]

Trump says he now 'understands' the coronavirus but his actions prove otherwise...


If Mr Trump continues to behave so recklessly, it suggests this president and this administration have learned nothing at all....


https://news.sky.com/story/trump-says-he-now-understands-the-coronavirus-but-his-actions-prove-otherwise-12090481


...complete disregard for human life and yet a regard for his own life is expected...

[bots]

you have to look at it all through trump vision. He is a narcissist so obviously now he is affected he knows everything about it. It also explains why the health of those around him doesn't matter if it projects him as being a strong leader.

The last few days are very reminiscent of the propaganda pushed out by Russia. There is no credibility whatsoever. Is he faking it ... who knows ... has he experienced organ damage ... who knows ... i think its best just to let it wash over you and see how it turns out in the end

[joeysteele]

Trump says he now 'understands' the coronavirus but his actions prove otherwise...


If Mr Trump continues to behave so recklessly, it suggests this president and this administration have learned nothing at all....


https://news.sky.com/story/trump-says-he-now-understands-the-coronavirus-but-his-actions-prove-otherwise-12090481


...complete disregard for human life and yet a regard for his own life is expected...

It is a complete disregard for human life.

Even now he's just trying to play the showman.
I really would hope some just playing a game re covid isn't in play here.

I don't doubt he's got it, however I think another side is in play here, where he can present himself as some superhero figure.
Beating this quickly.

I'm still unsure what to think here myself.
He has still in the main dismissed covid, I feel he'll just claim he has beaten this then dismiss it further.
Having not learned a thing from him or his wife getting it either.

[bots]

you also have to wonder given he is supposed to be released today why he needed to do the drive by .... only trump would do something like this

[Crimson Dynamo]

King of the Covid

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[joeysteele]

you also have to wonder given he is supposed to be released today why he needed to do the drive by .... only trump would do something like this

I think the whole wrong message has been given by him on it.
Plus I doubt he even cares if it has.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Nicky91]

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hope he doesn't further spread covid to anyone in that car

[Cherie]

I can't see doctors lying on camera if he doesn't have it, additionally so many other people have tested positive from the nomination event

[Niamh.]

What a ****ing moron, such a terrible example to set to people

[The Slim Reaper]

Why feel the need to endanger his protection detail by making them sit in close confinement to him in an enclosed space, just so he can massage his ego by waving to the proud boys outside the hospital?

[Nicky91]

isn't this a bit too soon, i mean if you really got covid, you should stay in hospital (and especially as he is a president, more important than anyone else) between 10-14 days

[Tom4784]

You can always rely on Trump to fully display how much of a complete **** he is on a regular basis.

Utterly woeful behaviour, if Biden or any democrat did this, the Right Wing would be screaming for retribution non-stop (which would be totally fair, it's ****ing horrific to expose people like that) but because it's Trump, they are all silent as the grave, as usual.

[Ammi]

Trump fans play Springsteen’s Born in the USA outside hospital without realising what lyrics mean...

Trump supporters are being sent up for playing Bruce Springsteen’s "Born in the USA" outside the hospital the president is staying in.

A small number of Republicans congregated outside Walter Reed Medical Centre where Trump is staying after catching coronavirus. They also played Lee Greenwood song “Proud to be American”.

However, it's the supporters’ choice of Springsteen’s 1984 track that has led to them becoming the source of internet vitriol.

Many are highlighting the fact that "Born in the USA" is far from the patriotic song the title has clearly led them to believe.


The song is widely believed to be a critique of America for marginalising working-class veterans upon their return to the homeland.

Adding to the embarrassment of the blunder is the fact that Walter Reed is a military hospital – not to mention Springsteen’s personal views on Trump.

In June, the musician called the president a “threat to our democracy” and said he “makes any kind of reform that much harder”.

“Do these people know that ‘Born in the USA’ was a protest song not a patriot ballad?” one tweeter asked in response to a video of the president’s fans playing the 1984 track.

“We're well into the fourth decade of the American right wing not listening to the actual lyrics of ‘Born in the USA’,” another wrote.

One person quipped: "I love it when ‘Born In The USA’ is played with unintended irony."

“Apparently, these seven people or so have never read or they don't understand the lyrics,” a commenter added.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-coronavirus-republicans-play-bruce-074311787.html

[arista]

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Look New York Times fella
you could have caught Covid-19
from loads of people
before you went to meet Trump.

[arista]

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Look New York Times fella
you could have caught Covid-19
from loads of people
before you went to meet Trump.

[bots]

Arista, thats not the point of contact tracing. People in close proximity to an infected person for more than 15 mins should be advised to quarantine and get a test ... and the WH hasn't done it with anyone ...

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

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Not gonna watch it because that dude's voice pisses me off, but yeah the diagnosis really did show the worst in people.

People might automatically disregard that vid because of who it is, you could make the same point by showing what some nutters have said tbh

[Liam-]

I don’t recall him having much to say when people spent years wishing death on Obama or Hilary, funny that

[bots]

trump has confirmed he will leave hospital this evening

[user104658]

Still don't think he was ever sick :idc:.

[bots]

Still don't think he was ever sick :idc:.

yeah thats the situation i'm settling on. Particularly his tweet ... don't be afraid of covid ... so disrespectful

[Crimson Dynamo]

this will play well for votes

[joeysteele]

Still don't think he was ever sick :idc:.

I'm now falling into that line too.

If he REALLY had this, to the point of hospitalisation he'd have been near terrified of it
Not joyriding around and making extremely dangerous tweets.

He's an insult to all who've lost loved ones to it, or seen loved ones quality of life dramatically changed by it after surviving..

Horrible, horrible individual he is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm now falling into that line too.

If he REALLY had this, to the point of hospitalisation he'd have been near terrified of it
Not joyriding around and making extremely dangerous tweets.

He's an insult to all who've lost loved ones to it, or seen loved ones quality of life dramatically changed by it after surviving..

Horrible, horrible individual he is.

what evidence do you have for this slur?

[joeysteele]

what evidence do you have for this slur?

I've lost 4 people to this already.
That's my own evidence.
More than enough for me.

Why not ask TS and bots, don't just always jump on me.

[Tom4784]

Gotta love how the Right Wing is acting like fragile little snowflakes over people not caring whether Trump lives or dies when they were silent and/or encouraged hatred of the Squad, for example.

They act like life is precious yet the Right Wing has voiced support and provided financial support to Kyle Rittenhouse, a double murderer.

[Oliver_W]

Gotta love how the Right Wing is acting like fragile little snowflakes over people not caring whether Trump lives or dies when they were silent and/or encouraged hatred of the Squad, for example.
How many prominent politicians don't get online hatred? Has AOC faced a never-ending parade of death wishes? Probably not.

They act like life is precious yet the Right Wing has voiced support and provided financial support to Kyle Rittenhouse, a double murderer.
Can you see the difference between questioning whether or not he acted in self-defence, and wishing death upon someone?

[Tom4784]

How many prominent politicians don't get online hatred? Has AOC faced a never-ending parade of death wishes? Probably not.


Can you see the difference between questioning whether or not he acted in self-defence, and wishing death upon someone?

All I see is people defending someone who killed two people and then getting precious over people enjoying the thought of Trump dying. The difference between the two is that the little white supremacist murdered two people, hoping someone dies is a lot less worse and less deadly. I just wished the White Supremacist wished people dead instead of actually killing them.

Also, AOC is a female POC left wing politician that regularly runs rings around republicans, she definitely gets death threats. A death threat is something more serious than a wish. Hoping someone dies, regardless of morality is just a hope. Telling someone you're going to kill them is a threat.

I just can't get precious over a wish, I know there's people that wish me dead and I just blow a kiss to them and tell them I'll live to spite them. It's meaningless, really.

[Oliver_W]

All I see is people defending someone who killed two people and then getting precious over people enjoying the thought of Trump dying. The difference between the two is that the little white supremacist murdered two people, hoping someone dies is a lot less worse and less deadly. I just wished the White Supremacist wished people dead instead of actually killing them.

He's not been proven as a white supremacist. If he is, he's the worst one ever - he only killed white guys, one of whom was a threat to him :hehe: Outright murderer or not, I agree he should have stayed at home and should be punished for killing them. But it seems more that he was huffing his own farts and thought he was a hero defending businesses against the rioters, rather than a murderous white supremacist. If he were the latter, I think his kill-list would look rather different!

Also, AOC is a female POC left wing politician that regularly runs rings around republicans, she definitely gets death threats. A death threat is something more serious than a wish. Hoping someone dies, regardless of morality is just a hope. Telling someone you're going to kill them is a threat.
I didn't realise she was getting death threats, that's obviously out of order. I don't know how "good" she is at debates etc, she's just another politician across the pond as far as I'm concerned.

But the hope thing? The way I see it. not particularly caring is ... fine? He's not a dictator of a fascist/communist/caliphate/whatever state, so caring enough to actively want him dead is a bit much. But I don't know him, I'm not American, so I'm not desperate for him to live either.

I know there's people that wish me dead and I just blow a kiss to them and tell them I'll live to spite them. It's meaningless, really.
I really doubt that. Unless you build a friendship with someone, you're just a name on a screen. If anyone says they want you dead, they're either trolling or deeply disturbed and the issue is with them.
Edit: duh, it jist occurred to me you probably mean people you know IRL. None of my beeswax but it still says more about them than it does you

[Barry.]

Why is he going back to work? He will give it to his workers, nasty

[Tom4784]

He's not been proven as a white supremacist. If he is, he's the worst one ever - he only killed white guys, one of whom was a threat to him :hehe: Outright murderer or not, I agree he should have stayed at home and should be punished for killing them. But it seems more that he was huffing his own farts and thought he was a hero defending businesses against the rioters, rather than a murderous white supremacist. If he were the latter, I think his kill-list would look rather different!


I didn't realise she was getting death threats, that's obviously out of order. I don't know how "good" she is at debates etc, she's just another politician across the pond as far as I'm concerned.

But the hope thing? The way I see it. not particularly caring is ... fine? He's not a dictator of a fascist/communist/caliphate/whatever state, so caring enough to actively want him dead is a bit much. But I don't know him, I'm not American, so I'm not desperate for him to live either.


I really doubt that. Unless you build a friendship with someone, you're just a name on a screen. If anyone says they want you dead, they're either trolling or deeply disturbed and the issue is with them.
Edit: duh, it jist occurred to me you probably mean people you know IRL. None of my beeswax but it still says more about them than it does you

I don't care about the murderer's intent, he's a white supremacist and a murderer and, now, living proof of Right Wing hypocrisy.

Trump is responsible for 200k covid deaths in his own country and he shrugged when asked about the number and said 'it is what it is'. He also weaponised said virus politically and spread misinformation that would only jack up that number further. He's as responsible for as many deaths this year as your typical dictators.

Let's not even get into the human rights abuse. If someone hopes he dies or delights when he does, then that's perfectly fine with me because people died under his leadership, people have lost someone they can never get back just so Trump can blame everyone but himself for a crisis he basically allowed to happen. Trump's every bit the monster as any other fascist in the world and if people will delight in the prospect of his death, let them.

[arista]

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[caprimint]

He's out of hospital!!! :amazed:

[Nicky91]

He's out of hospital!!! :amazed:

not something to be happy about, he should still be in hospital

3 day miracle recoveries with this virus simply do not exist

[Tom4784]

He was visibly struggling to breath in front of the White House. He obviously left hospital before he was supposed to and now he'll infect more people no doubt because that's more convenient to him than quarantining.

[Niamh.]

He was visibly struggling to breath in front of the White House. He obviously left hospital before he was supposed to and now he'll infect more people no doubt because that's more convenient to him than quarantining.

Most likely, what a guy ..........

[Vanessa]

Yeah, I get the feeling he left hospital too soon.

[bots]

i think we have to remember that trump being discharged from hospital is not the same as us being discharged. He went to a medical suite with 24 hour care. The only difference is the amount of high tech equipment they have to hand at hospital and i'm betting Trump has requested most of that stuff for his own private use .... no one can say no after all

[caprimint]

not something to be happy about, he should still be in hospital

3 day miracle recoveries with this virus simply do not exist
He was in for more than 3 days.

Anyway, just goes to show what a real FIGHTER he is :clap1:

[Nicky91]

He was in for more than 3 days.

Anyway, just goes to show what a real FIGHTER he is :clap1:

no he wasn't, it was 3 days in hospital

tested positive for covid on October 2

out of hospital on October 5

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Nicky91]

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orange moronic pathological liar in action


i'm starting to doubt that he had covid in the first place, nice little publicity stunt again for him

[The Slim Reaper]

Nice that Donald was treated so well as he received his socialist medicine, whilst at the same time he's trying to take capitalist healthcare away from millions. He gets all that for the pitiful $750 taxes he pays every year.

[Crimson Dynamo]

orange moronic pathological liar in action


i'm starting to doubt that he had covid in the first place, nice little publicity stunt again for him

Are you saying that doctors are lying? :conf:

deliberately breaking the AMA Code of Medical Ethics?

[Nicky91]

Are you saying that doctors are lying? :conf:

deliberately breaking the AMA Code of Medical Ethics?

no, more saying Trump himself has been lying (wouldn't be the first time honestly)

i mean doctors can easily say his fever ''dropped'' or also being able to breathe on his own, if he ain't got covid

and yes tests could be faulty, or at least we never got to see that covid-test of his so we gotta believe his word, and i personally do never believe Trump

[The Slim Reaper]

Are you saying that doctors are lying? :conf:

deliberately breaking the AMA Code of Medical Ethics?

These are the same doctors that didn't reveal the full picture the other day to protect donalds ego. They still won't say when he was first diagnosed or answer many of the outstanding questions people have.

I don't agree, as you can see him clearly struggling to breath in his tough guy mask removal scene, but it's noty beyond the realms of possibility, especially when his previous white house Dr said he was 6'3 and 200lbs, which I think anyone can tell is a lie. Also his medical statement before the election could have been written in crayon, it was so obviously dictated by the trump campaign. Lying for trump is a career at this stage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

These are the same doctors that didn't reveal the full picture the other day to protect donalds ego. They still won't say when he was first diagnosed or answer many of the outstanding questions people have.

I don't agree, as you can see him clearly struggling to breath in his tough guy mask removal scene, but it's noty beyond the realms of possibility, especially when his previous white house Dr said he was 6'3 and 200lbs, which I think anyone can tell is a lie. Also his medical statement before the election could have been written in crayon, it was so obviously dictated by the trump campaign. Lying for trump is a career at this stage.

it would be impossible to keep that a secret and doctors lying about a serious medical condition? - nope

[The Slim Reaper]

it would be impossible to keep that a secret and doctors lying about a serious medical condition? - nope

Not really impossible, but I agree it's extremely unlikely. Like I say, I'm sure he has it, but when Trump tells in excess of 10k lies in just under 4 years in office, then it's not really surprising that everything he says or claims is met with scepticism. Otherwise the boy who cried wolf would just be a fairy story and not a parable.

[bots]

it's a banana republic administration with zero credibility. The doctors were performing to an audience of one when they did their press conferences. They also quoted privacy at any bad issues but were happy to discuss good aspects ... they dodged answering and obfuscated ... is it any wonder people have no faith in what they hear

[Crimson Dynamo]

I do think however and people are forgetting this

If this happened in the Obama presidency at this time they would be doing all they could to make it look as good as it can be. Its a general leader thing that has been going on since humans existed.

[The Slim Reaper]

I do think however and people are forgetting this

If this happened in the Obama presidency at this time they would be doing all they could to make it look as good as it can be. Its a general leader thing that has been going on since humans existed.

Do you think a putin-esque propaganda video of Obama disembarking from marine one, and ripping his mask off whilst he's still highly contagious and around people would have happened? Do you think Obama would have forced his secret service agents into a confined space with him, so he could take drive to massage his ego?

Of course Obamas administration would have put a positive spin on it, but trump has presided over 200k deaths and gives himself an A+ for the way he's handled the pandemic. There are levels.

[The Slim Reaper]

Whatever side you're on, I think everyone can agree that this is a pretty powerful ad.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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makes a great point about all the extreme left showing total disregard for law officers when blm antifa rioters where attacking them

but then (to suit the agenda) all worrying about the protection teams getting covid. could not make it up

[The Slim Reaper]

makes a great point about all the extreme left showing total disregard for law officers when blm antifa rioters where attacking them

but then (to suit the agenda) all worrying about the protection teams getting covid. could not make it up

One was about a fight for equality after the well documented and well known history of the US. Those same law officers were filmed pepper spraying and beating innocent people, and taking others off the streets without ID in unmarked cars.

One was a vanity project.

[Crimson Dynamo]

One was about a fight for equality after the well documented and well known history of the US. Those same law officers were filmed pepper spraying and beating innocent people, and taking others off the streets without ID in unmarked cars.

One was a vanity project.

a fight for equality

google translate: a chance to loot and smash things up because you are young and dont yet own property or business

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[The Slim Reaper]

a fight for equality

google translate: a chance to loot and smash things up because you are young and dont yet own property or business

Just remind me if anything happened in the lead up to the riots and looting. Were they spontaneous, or was there an antecedent?

[MTVN]

A lot of people say the impact Covid had on Boris played a part in him favouring tougher restrictions/taking the virus much more seriously, seems to have had the opposite effect on Trump

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just remind me if anything happened in the lead up to the riots and looting. Were they spontaneous, or was there an antecedent?

The USA and indeed all democracies have a legal process and courts to deal with issues and they are being dealt with in an adult sensible way. Louts who dont want to abide by the law are just that louts, criminals and rioters.

[bots]

trump knows he is behind in the polls, so this is his make or break strategy to turn it around. If he agreed with the dems now, he would be admitting they were right all along so that's just not a route he can take at this stage. the one he has chosen is his only path as he had already bet everything on it.

[The Slim Reaper]

The USA and indeed all democracies have a legal process and courts to deal with issues and they are being dealt with in an adult sensible way. Louts who dont want to abide by the law are just that louts, criminals and rioters.

I disagree with ruining peoples property and looting, but I understand how it got to that point. Nothing happens in a vacuum, lt, and treating things as if they do, just misses the point of pretty much everything.

I mean if we want to go down the laws are laws argument then pretty sure you were cheering on Dominic cummings, and when the government tried to illegally prorogue parliament, I don't ever recall you calling them louts and criminals. I've also no doubt you could find me doing exactly the same thing.

We're all hypocrites because we're all human

[Nicky91]

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thanks for this piece of information what we all already knew :bored:

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why mention it again and again, this lie is becoming more ridiculous now

[Kizzy]

A lot of people say the impact Covid had on Boris played a part in him favouring tougher restrictions/taking the virus much more seriously, seems to have had the opposite effect on Trump

It knocked Boris on his arse though that's why and scared him. Trump either hasnt had it and this is a ploy for public support or he was lucky and had an uber mild dose so he can't see what all the fuss was about.

As if he wasn't maniacal enough before now he thinks he's invincible! :/

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Trump needs to be careful.


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[Oliver_W]

My mum said something interesting - if it was a mild dose, or at least one he shrugs off easily, it'll reinforce the idea that Covid is really minor. She's not a psycho so she didn't wish him dead or to be floored long term, but she hopes it's bad enough for him not to dismiss it :laugh:

[DouglasS]

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:clap1:

My flatmate had it and it Was just a cough. His mother who is 60 caught it off him and had a sore tummy for one day (I know 60 isn’t elderly, but it’s still higher risk).

I understand everyone is different but it has been vastly blown out of proportion for being a deadly lethal disease.

It has a death rate of like 0.1%, and so unless you are vulnerable it’s extremely extremely unlikely to impact you at all.

If people choose to be unhealthy then they are at worse risk, but people making the choice to eat badly/not exercise/stay fit shouldn’t allow the rest of society to suffer imo

[Crimson Dynamo]

It knocked Boris on his arse though that's why and scared him. Trump either hasnt had it and this is a ploy for public support or he was lucky and had an uber mild dose so he can't see what all the fuss was about.

As if he wasn't maniacal enough before now he thinks he's invincible! :/

he said he might be immune

but i think to be immune you first have to not get the virus

:joker:

[bots]

all the voices we are hearing at the moment are saying immunity is short term at best even with a vaccine, so unless he plans a monthly injection of the new super drug (which actually wouldn't surprise me) he could get it again in a few months time

[Tom4784]

:clap1:

My flatmate had it and it Was just a cough. His mother who is 60 caught it off him and had a sore tummy for one day (I know 60 isn’t elderly, but it’s still higher risk).

I understand everyone is different but it has been vastly blown out of proportion for being a deadly lethal disease.

It has a death rate of like 0.1%, and so unless you are vulnerable it’s extremely extremely unlikely to impact you at all.

If people choose to be unhealthy then they are at worse risk, but people making the choice to eat badly/not exercise/stay fit shouldn’t allow the rest of society to suffer imo

Tell the families of the million people who have died that it's been blown out of proportion.

[MTVN]

Trump needs to be careful.


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I do think something like this is a genuine concern, it's been far too short a timeframe from diagnosis-hospitalisation-recovery to think he's totally fine now

[The Slim Reaper]

I do think something like this is a genuine concern, it's been far too short a timeframe from diagnosis-hospitalisation-recovery to think he's totally fine now

Agreed, especially in the risk categories he's in. A victory march at this stage is way too premature.

I remember Obama writing something about the election campaigns and talking about how exhausting they were, and he's in shape, gets regular exercise and wasn't fighting off a virus that is potentially deadly. He's nowhere near his full symptoms and he'll be wearing himself down to campaign. It's a dodgy cocktail.

[bots]

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[joeysteele]

It knocked Boris on his arse though that's why and scared him. Trump either hasnt had it and this is a ploy for public support or he was lucky and had an uber mild dose so he can't see what all the fuss was about.

As if he wasn't maniacal enough before now he thinks he's invincible! :/

Dead right.
He'll be possibly presenting himself as some superhero.

[Kizzy]

I do think something like this is a genuine concern, it's been far too short a timeframe from diagnosis-hospitalisation-recovery to think he's totally fine now

That's what makes me think he never had it in the first place. He just wants people to think he's fitter than Biden

[arista]

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[arista]

Top Corner of the Star.

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[DouglasS]

Tell the families of the million people who have died that it's been blown out of proportion.

Million people out of almost 8 billion In a year... that’s about 0.01% of the population..

Any death is a big deal personally, but you can’t sit here and act like the world needs stopping. What’s next, telling the world to lockdown and ban all coverages because tens of millions of people are dieing from lung cancer because of smoking Each year

[Ammi]

...well I guess that my thoughts are...that 0.01% when applied to the population is an awful lot of lives and an awful lot of deaths that could have been prevented if all possible precautions were taken as medically advised....this virus needs the world to comply with ...it needs the non vulnerable to help preserve life for the vulnerable wherever possible...and it won’t always be possible, I know...but there won’t be many of us that don’t have ‘vulnerable’ in our lives, either with friends or family...and we hope that others around us will comply to help to preserve their lives...

[joeysteele]

...well I guess that my thoughts are...that 0.01% when applied to the population is an awful lot of lives and an awful lot of deaths that could have been prevented if all possible precautions were taken as medically advised....this virus needs the world to comply with ...it needs the non vulnerable to help preserve life for the vulnerable wherever possible...and it won’t always be possible, I know...but there won’t be many of us that don’t have ‘vulnerable’ in our lives, either with friends or family...and we hope that others around us will comply to help to preserve their lives...

This complacent dismissiveness of deaths is irritating to me.
It's not just the deaths either Ammi, it's the devastation of the loved ones of those lives lost.
What does that do to the percentage.
For each person, there's unknown numbers left grieving and devastated too.

Knowing lives were lost before their time.

However, there's another side too.
We see no figures for this, I'd doubt anyone in authority is even collating any.
However people are left with disabilities,terminal health conditions.
Some needing transplants as organs are damaged..
Even brain damage.

Plus the other effects limiting quality of life to those suffering more acute long covid.

Put all those categories into the effects of this virus.
IF, anyone in power will ever present full and more true figures as to the overall destruction this virus brings to lives and to their loved ones too.
Then see where percentages are.

I don't like lives lost reduced to percentages.
I like even less our government not even offering condolences to the bereaved.
I just will never even attempt to diminish the losses of lives to this virus.

It's one cruel virus for certain, in that in the main the lives it takes, are more likely those vulnerable with other health conditions or the elderly, even not safe in Care homes!!.

It does however impact others lives if they contract it severe enough, to cause them poor health for months or years.
Or even more terminally.

[Nicky91]

This complacent dismissiveness of deaths is irritating to me.
It's not just the deaths either Ammi, it's the devastation of the loved ones of those lives lost.
What does that do to the percentage.
For each person, there's unknown numbers left grieving and devastated too.

Knowing lives were lost before their time.

However, there's another side too.
We see no figures for this, I'd doubt anyone in authority is even collating any.
However people are left with disabilities,terminal health conditions.
Some needing transplants as organs are damaged..
Even brain damage.

Plus the other effects limiting quality of life to those suffering more acute long covid.

Put all those categories into the effects of this virus.
IF, anyone in power will ever present full and more true figures as to the overall destruction this virus brings to lives and to their loved ones too.
Then see where percentages are.

I don't like lives lost reduced to percentages.
I like even less our government not even offering condolences to the bereaved.
I just will never even attempt to diminish the losses of lives to this virus.

It's one cruel virus for certain, in that in the main the lives it takes, are more likely those vulnerable with other health conditions or the elderly, even not safe in Care homes!!.

It does however impact others lives if they contract it severe enough, to cause them poor health for months or years.
Or even more terminally.

also a valid reason to do as much to protect as much people we can from this virus

[joeysteele]

also a valid reason to do as much to protect as much people we can from this virus

Absolutely Nicky.
It is.

Not that our lot are..
They've taken away the full support that was in place officially.
In fact they rarely even bother to mention the most vulnerable and elderly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

On an avergae day in the world

150,000 humans die

6000 per hour

These numbers include death, violence, disease and famine, as well as many other causes of death.

seems high but there are 6,000,000,000 of us

[bots]

we don't even know what the long term effects are on people that report next to no symptoms yet. Sometimes these things don't show up for years

[Nicky91]

On an avergae day in the world

150,000 humans die

6000 per hour

These numbers include death, violence, disease and famine, as well as many other causes of death.

seems high but there are 6,000,000,000 of us



like what Joey said, it is not just about the deaths, also how it leaves people with disabilities, terminal illnesses, requiring new organs, more need for transplants

working together to beat corona, means we can prevent that suffering for many people

corona does not care wether you are left or right wing, corona affects all of us

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://assets.weforum.org/editor/responsive_large_webp_sJcmFPq6L89cbxsu-GcL5mJFmNRJdGkJsedjQz8oqNA.webp

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1313826414148415495

[Ammi]

James Corden attacks Donald Trump's coronavirus response with Paul McCartney parody...


5C76XMCJCVs

[Nicky91]

MqzW-M-hkzA

getting infected by covid a ''blessing of god'' :laugh3: :laugh3:


more proof he really belongs into a happy home next to Lukashenko, Bolsonaro

[Crimson Dynamo]

i mean if he is actually all ok its a bit of a miracle and if that drug really did work then wow, ok

:shocked:

[Nicky91]

i mean if he is actually all ok its a bit of a miracle and if that drug really did work then wow, ok

:shocked:

he never had covid, lol


but now he just pretends he had it, for likes, for sympathy votes in the election, Donnie wanting to be seen as a god well *pretendstobeshocked*

[joeysteele]

MqzW-M-hkzA

getting infected by covid a ''blessing of god'' :laugh3: :laugh3:


more proof he really belongs into a happy home next to Lukashenko, Bolsonaro

Oh crumbs.
Bringing in the religious topic too.

He'll stoop to any truly lowest level to present himself as some ' anointed' one.

A blessing from God..
Really.
Yet people admire this pompous individual.

[Nicky91]

Oh crumbs.
Bringing in the religious topic too.

He'll stoop to any truly lowest level to present himself as some ' anointed' one.

A blessing from God..
Really.
Yet people admire this pompous individual.

and now Chris Cuomo is getting some hate too on youtube, just because he said trump's diagnosis of covid is fake, which can have some truth, coming from a covid survivor

[bots]

The drug is basically a cleaned up and concentrated version of blood plasma, and it will work in some circumstances but has been shown not to work at all in others, so it is what it is

[joeysteele]

and now Chris Cuomo is getting some hate too on youtube, just because he said trump's diagnosis of covid is fake, which can have some truth, coming from a covid survivor

The World is going mad Nicky.

It's incredible now, the kind of individuals that people support and put into power
Then fall for every bit of nonsense they tell them too.

However, to bring in God now.
On here even, as well as at large in this Country, people claiming miracles or God helping them in bad times, are dismissed as fanatics and filling others heads with nonsense.

When this guy says something like this.. he'll likely get supported.

It doesn't surprise me that Cuomo will get hate.
The people talking more sense as rationally as they can.
They will get the ridicule.

To me it's just all going crazy and really sad.

[Nicky91]

The World is going mad Nicky.

It's incredible now, the kind of individuals that people support and put into power
Then fall for every bit of nonsense they tell them too.

However, to bring in God now.
On here even, as well as at large in this Country, people claiming miracles or God helping them in bad times, are dismissed as fanatics and filling others heads with nonsense.

When this guy says something like this.. he'll likely get supported.

It doesn't surprise me that Cuomo will get hate.
The people talking more sense as rationally as they can.
They will get the ridicule.

To me it's just all going crazy and really sad.

yeah and his brother NY governor Andrew also got hate, got called a SS Gestapo just because he announced new stricter measures more in brooklyn, orthodox community (in which honestly there were still major church gatherings which is not good these times), also disgusting how they can call out on his late grandparents too with some insults i read on youtube)

[Crimson Dynamo]

"hi perhaps you recognize me..its your favourite President"

:laugh2:

[Ammi]

...the words of someone who lost their partner to Trump...

To all the over 208,000 Americans who lost loved ones to this virus — I stand by you, with you, holding your hand. Unfortunately it did dominate our lives didn’t it? It dominated Nick’s family’s lives and my family’s lives. I guess we “let it” — like it was our choice?? Unfortunately not everyone is lucky enough to spend two days in the hospital. I cried next to my husband for 95 days watching what COVID did to the person I love. It IS something to be afraid of. After you see the person you love the most die from this disease you would never say what this tweet says. There is no empathy to all the lives lost. He is bragging instead. It is sad. It is hurtful. It is disgraceful.


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemcneal/amanda-kloots-nick-cordero-covid-trump-tweet?origin=fil-la

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1314342490451988485

[arista]

Yes he is planning
a Rally in Florida

[Nicky91]

Yes he is planning
a Rally in Florida

really hope he isn't contagious then anymore when this rally takes place, since there are a lot of elderly living in Florida

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej34usTXYAEUK4Q?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

really hope he isn't contagious then anymore when this rally takes place, since there are a lot of elderly living in Florida


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjZKJtzWkAA1nhc?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

ZOwB6yWsB8E

[arista]

Good on her

[Nicky91]

ZOwB6yWsB8E

another ''miracle recovery'' :rolleyes: no one just recovers after few days


i can't at this mockery and underestimating of COVID-19 by Trump and his lapdog goons, they never had the virus in the first place, just for sympathy votes

[Crimson Dynamo]

another ''miracle recovery'' :rolleyes: no one just recovers after few days


i can't at this mockery and underestimating of COVID-19 by Trump and his lapdog goons, they never had the virus in the first place, just for sympathy votes

She is a new mother and is having to self isolate from her own child

have some actual respect

[Nicky91]

She is a new mother and is having to self isolate from her own child

have some actual respect

i have respect for everyone, apart from whoever is associated with donald trump

[DouglasS]

another ''miracle recovery'' :rolleyes: no one just recovers after few days


i can't at this mockery and underestimating of COVID-19 by Trump and his lapdog goons, they never had the virus in the first place, just for sympathy votes

Yes people do... can confirm with my own eyes my flatmate had symptoms for about 2 days, and his mother not even half a day.

Yes it can be dangerous for some, a very small minority and unlucky few. The media is making us believe that covid is a death sentence when it’s far from it

[Nicky91]

Yes people do... can confirm with my own eyes my flatmate had symptoms for about 2 days, and his mother not even half a day.

Yes it can be dangerous for some, a very small minority and unlucky few. The media is making us believe that covid is a death sentence when it’s far from it

??

then it wasn't really covid

[Crimson Dynamo]

??

then it wasn't really covid

do you think all the football players who have tested positive recently have been gravely ill?

[Nicky91]

do you think all the football players who have tested positive recently have been gravely ill?

longer than those few days anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

longer than those few days anyway

For COVID-19, data to date suggest that 80% of infections are mild or asymptomatic, 15% are severe infection, requiring oxygen and 5% are critical infections, requiring ventilation.

[Josy]

Nicky dont be so rude especially when you are wrong.

Many people that tested positive have reported little or no symptoms

[Nicky91]

Nicky dont be so rude especially when you are wrong.

Many people that tested positive have reported little or no symptoms

no intention to come across as rude

it's just i don't want anyone to underestimate this virus


and i know i should not have to worry for myself because it doesn't affect me that much

despite my autism, i seem to be showing a lot of empathy for who this virus is fatal, life threatening to

[DouglasS]

??

then it wasn't really covid

It was covid he tested positive... as did his mother

[Josy]

no intention to come across as rude



it's just i don't want anyone to underestimate this virus





and i know i should not have to worry for myself because it doesn't affect me that much



despite my autism, i seem to be showing a lot of empathy for who this virus is fatal, life threatening toQuoting someone's post with blah blah blah and telling others that the people they knew never really had covid is rude.

[Nicky91]

fine, and ok i know many hollywood stars who had it, little or no symptoms

but most of them went into isolation, quarantine for more than those few days, the required 10-14 days

[Ammi]

Trump Conceals COVID Test Info During Fake Fox News ‘Medical Evaluation’...

“Man, woman, person, camera, TV.”

The last time President Donald Trump appeared on TV with Dr. Marc Siegel, he managed to impress the Fox News medical contributor by successfully listing off those five words in the same order, twice in a row.

Now, with many unanswered questions swirling about his health following an abrupt hospitalization for COVID-19 just one week ago, Trump has turned again to Dr. Siegel in a deeply bizarre, made-for-reality TV on-air “medical evaluation” on Tucker Carlson’s show Friday night.

“By any measure, it’s been a remarkable turnaround,” Carlson insisted of Trump’s apparent recovery, before revealing that the White House camera team—and not Fox News—were the ones filming Trump remotely (and therefore presumably had some control over the edit).

Siegel, the same doctor who irresponsibly speculated that former Vice President Joe Biden might be on “speed” or “Adderall” ahead of the first presidential debate and later downplayed the severity of Trump’s diagnosis, began his exam by asking, “How are you feeling now?”

Trump said he’s feeling “really, really strong,” unlike other people who have contracted the “China virus,” as he likes to call it. He insisted that he had no problems breathing, despite reports that his oxygen levels fell dangerously low at times. The president also admitted to some “congestion” in his lungs detected during a CAT scan, which is more than his personal doctor was willing to reveal to reporters earlier in the week.

...full article..

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[Ammi]

Donald Trump 'wanted to rip open shirt to reveal the Superman logo on leaving hospital'...


Donald Trump reportedly wanted to rip open his shirt to reveal the Superman logo as he left hospital after being treated for coronavirus.

The US president proposed the stunt during his stay at Walter Reed Medical Center, according to The New York Times.

Mr Trump is said to have suggested he initially appear frail upon leaving the hospital, before dramatically opening his button-down shirt to reveal a Superman t-shirt beneath.

The move was meant to be a 'symbol of strength,' according to the newspaper, but it was eventually dropped.

The report emerged as Mr Trump made his first public appearance since returning to the White House.

The maskless president spoke from a White House balcony on Saturday at an event called "a peaceful protest for law & order," attended by a few hundred people standing on the lawn below.

“I’m feeling great,” he said, before declaring the pandemic, which has killed more than 210,000 Americans, was “disappearing”.

His appearance was seen as a first step towards resuming full campaigning next week.


...full article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-wanted-rip-open-092100056.html

[Nicky91]

Donald Trump 'wanted to rip open shirt to reveal the Superman logo on leaving hospital'...


Donald Trump reportedly wanted to rip open his shirt to reveal the Superman logo as he left hospital after being treated for coronavirus.

The US president proposed the stunt during his stay at Walter Reed Medical Center, according to The New York Times.

Mr Trump is said to have suggested he initially appear frail upon leaving the hospital, before dramatically opening his button-down shirt to reveal a Superman t-shirt beneath.

The move was meant to be a 'symbol of strength,' according to the newspaper, but it was eventually dropped.

The report emerged as Mr Trump made his first public appearance since returning to the White House.

The maskless president spoke from a White House balcony on Saturday at an event called "a peaceful protest for law & order," attended by a few hundred people standing on the lawn below.

“I’m feeling great,” he said, before declaring the pandemic, which has killed more than 210,000 Americans, was “disappearing”.

His appearance was seen as a first step towards resuming full campaigning next week.


...full article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-wanted-rip-open-092100056.html

always knew our Donnie is superman :love:

[bots]

https://cosmicbook.news/images/trump-superman-fan-art-1.jpg

[reece(:]

Donald Trump has claimed he has fully recovered from Covid-19 and is now “immune” from the virus that has killed more than 210,000 Americans since February.

“I have to tell you, I feel fantastically. I really feel good. And I even feel good by the fact that, you know, the word immunity means something — having really a protective glow means something. I think it's very important to have that, to have that is a very important thing,” the president said in an interview with Fox News on Sunday.

The White House first announced Mr Trump’s Covid-19 diagnosis on Thursday, 1 October.

The president is slated to make his first public appearance on the campaign trail since that diagnosis at a rally in Florida on Monday.

White House doctors have assured him he is not contagious, he said.

“The doctors, the White House doctors, as you know, are the best, and they said [I’m] totally free of spreading. There’s no spread,” Mr Trump said.

“I beat this crazy horrible China virus,” he said.

While Mr Trump said he did not know whether he would be immune from Covid-19 forever or only for a time — “no one knows,” he said — he made several misleading statements about the disease and how it affects patients who have had it.

“Once you do recover, you're immune,” Mr Trump said.

He then appeared to tout his illness and recovery from Covid-19 as a chip in his stack against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, who has not caught the virus.

While Mr Trump attended events throughout the summer without wearing masks or socially distancing, Mr Biden has been urging Americans to follow his example wearing them and taking all precautions outlined by the Centres for Disease Control.

“Now you have a president who doesn't have to hide in a basement like his opponent. You have a president who is immune, which is a big — I think, which is a very important thing, frankly,” Mr Trump said on Sunday.

Mr Trump has been eager to get back on the campaign trail after missing more than 10 days with his illness.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-covid-immune-fox-interview-protective-glow-b964840.html

[joeysteele]

All the content of that is just unbelievable coming from any so called adult.
Coming from an American President, the only words are embarrassingly reckless.

[arista]

All the content of that is just unbelievable coming from any so called adult.
Coming from an American President, the only words are embarrassingly reckless.


But he has said the Election has Corrupt Democrat postal votes,
so he is staying put.

FBI (the ones that like Trump) Armed Guards

[arista]

Monday
President Trump is in Florida
to ensure he can keep that state?

[joeysteele]

But he has said the Election has Corrupt Democrat postal votes,
so he is staying put.

FBI (the ones that like Trump) Armed Guards

If he loses the election, there's no way either the Senate or House of Representatives would allow him to stay.
Not a chance.

He'd likely be forcibly removed from office, if necessary.

[arista]

If he loses the election, there's no way either the Senate or House of Representatives would allow him to stay.
Not a chance.

He'd likely be forcibly removed from office, if necessary.


Yes Trumps FBI Vs CIA

[Zizu]

Has he had a negative test result yet ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Oliver_W]

Maybe there is some corruption when it comes to postal voted :shrug: just because it comes from Trump, doesn't mean it's wrong.

[bots]

Maybe there is some corruption when it comes to postal voted :shrug: just because it comes from Trump, doesn't mean it's wrong.

there is next to zero evidence of postal fraud ... he is undermining it intentionally .... and for the president to come out with it at an election is just obscene

[Nicky91]

Donald Trump has claimed he has fully recovered from Covid-19 and is now “immune” from the virus that has killed more than 210,000 Americans since February.

“I have to tell you, I feel fantastically. I really feel good. And I even feel good by the fact that, you know, the word immunity means something — having really a protective glow means something. I think it's very important to have that, to have that is a very important thing,” the president said in an interview with Fox News on Sunday.

The White House first announced Mr Trump’s Covid-19 diagnosis on Thursday, 1 October.

The president is slated to make his first public appearance on the campaign trail since that diagnosis at a rally in Florida on Monday.

White House doctors have assured him he is not contagious, he said.

“The doctors, the White House doctors, as you know, are the best, and they said [I’m] totally free of spreading. There’s no spread,” Mr Trump said.

“I beat this crazy horrible China virus,” he said.

While Mr Trump said he did not know whether he would be immune from Covid-19 forever or only for a time — “no one knows,” he said — he made several misleading statements about the disease and how it affects patients who have had it.

“Once you do recover, you're immune,” Mr Trump said.

He then appeared to tout his illness and recovery from Covid-19 as a chip in his stack against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, who has not caught the virus.

While Mr Trump attended events throughout the summer without wearing masks or socially distancing, Mr Biden has been urging Americans to follow his example wearing them and taking all precautions outlined by the Centres for Disease Control.

“Now you have a president who doesn't have to hide in a basement like his opponent. You have a president who is immune, which is a big — I think, which is a very important thing, frankly,” Mr Trump said on Sunday.

Mr Trump has been eager to get back on the campaign trail after missing more than 10 days with his illness.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-covid-immune-fox-interview-protective-glow-b964840.html

good for Donnie to think in such positive way, but don't be too arrogant either, you are not immune for a very long time, there have been many cases already who have gotten the virus for second time

[Strictly Jake]

Nicky91: *have respect for everyone, apart from whoever is associated with donald trump*

always knew our Donnie is superman*

Classic Nicky. Seriously WTF?

[Nicky91]

*



Classic Nicky. Seriously WTF?

i better walk along with other trump supporters, and also think he's a messiah for america

otherwise i will get hated


and Trump better win, otherwise grandpa loser biden is in the white house, and we need to prevent a 80 yr old to be in power of US

[Strictly Jake]

i better walk along with other trump supporters, and also think he's a messiah for america

otherwise i will get hated


and Trump better win, otherwise grandpa loser biden is in the white house, and we need to prevent a 80 yr old to be in power of US

1) you arent American

2) most people on here and everywhere else cant stand him. Its actually the trump supporters that are hated

3) you clearly dont have a strong political view to flip flop like that anyway

4) He isnt the messiah

5) to have such a strong view of rule breakers, casual view of corona and those anti maskers trump isnt someone you would be on the team of

[Strictly Jake]

he is a covid survivor though


and a shame that i am not american, i am more ashamed to be dutch


netherlands needs dutch trump = Wilders in power :fc:

And.....?

So is Boris but im not a supporter of his and I live in England

Being a covid survivor doesnt make you a superhero.

[Dogeatdog]

i better walk along with other trump supporters, and also think he's a messiah for america

otherwise i will get hated


and Trump better win, otherwise grandpa loser biden is in the white house, and we need to prevent a 80 yr old to be in power of US

You should follow what you think is right not because of what other people will think of you. Opinions can change and that’s fair enough but don’t just do it because you’re worried what others will think. You’ve posted a lot on here about all of us sticking to the rules, wearing masks etc. Trump was someone that was pretty much ignoring this to start with.

You shouldn’t be ashamed of where you come from either.

[The Slim Reaper]

I think Nicky is being sarcastic.

[Dogeatdog]

I think Nicky is being sarcastic.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeartfeltLargeIberianlynx-size_restricted.gif

:laugh:

[joeysteele]

There's not many times I would, however I'd deem it a massive badge of honour if I was to end up hated for me intensely disliking Trump politically.

[Nicky91]

You should follow what you think is right not because of what other people will think of you. Opinions can change and that’s fair enough but don’t just do it because you’re worried what others will think. You’ve posted a lot on here about all of us sticking to the rules, wearing masks etc. Trump was someone that was pretty much ignoring this to start with.

You shouldn’t be ashamed of where you come from either.

that is a huge mistake from him, but he isn't the only one (so did Bolsonaro of Brazil)

reason i call him messiah is more sarcastic given his followers seem to like anything from him


so yes i am being more sarcastic about trump

[The Slim Reaper]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeartfeltLargeIberianlynx-size_restricted.gif

:laugh:

that is a huge mistake from him, but he isn't the only one (so did Bolsonaro of Brazil)

reason i call him messiah is more sarcastic given his followers seem to like anything from him


so yes i am being more sarcastic about trump

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Vf9FdoRQhZjWxxX3Mj/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a01181bfdb481736fe96a626c5d2d 5d4a5f961533&rid=giphy.gif


:smug:

[Dogeatdog]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Vf9FdoRQhZjWxxX3Mj/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a01181bfdb481736fe96a626c5d2d 5d4a5f961533&rid=giphy.gif


:smug:

https://media.giphy.com/media/nlWGe7Q64zwQ0/giphy-facebook_s.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

https://media.giphy.com/media/nlWGe7Q64zwQ0/giphy-facebook_s.jpg

:laugh:

https://i.imgflip.com/4i7dw2.jpg

[Dogeatdog]

:laugh:

https://i.imgflip.com/4i7dw2.jpg

:joker:

[Tom4784]

Maybe there is some corruption when it comes to postal voted :shrug: just because it comes from Trump, doesn't mean it's wrong.

Honestly, the only 'corruption' from postal votes I've heard about is a Trump supporting mailman dumping a ton of ballots in a Democrat leaning area.

Trump is trying to undermine postal votes because the less people that vote, the more chance he has of winning. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Trump has watched House of Cards and is trying to play this like Frank did in the election seasons. Voting suppression everywhere.