Donald and Melania Trump test positive for COVID19

[reece(:]

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Just a reminder that US President Donald Trump is 74 years old, and Democratic Presidential nominee Joe Biden is 77 years old, which means both are at greater risk of severe illness from coronavirus.

Biden appeared with Trump at the presidential debate on Tuesday, where Trump mocked Biden for wearing a mask.

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The White House hasn’t responded to questions from my colleague about which officials have been exposed to Hicks and we are trying to confirm whether Pence and Trump have been in close contact this week.

For now, there is this from Bloomberg:

When they returned to Washington on Tuesday, Stephen Miller and Hicks were seen sharing an umbrella as they exited Air Force One in the rain. Miller’s wife, Katie Miller – Vice President Mike Pence’s press secretary – recovered from Covid-19 earlier this year.

CNN medical analyst Jonathan Reiner says that House speaker Nancy Pelosi should be in isolation as it is possible that both Trump and Vice President Mike Pence could become ill, in which case she would likely need to step in:

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Within that 14-day period, Trump is due to speak at rallies in Florida, Wisconsin and Arizona. All three are swing states.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/oct/02/coronavirus-live-news-paris-faces-being-placed-on-maximum-alert-as-india-nears-100000-deaths

[JerseyWins]

What a monkey wrench this is in everything right now :skull:

He should likely be fine. Get well Trump

[LaLaLand]

Honestly the timing is just too good for me to fully believe this...

Awful when you don’t believe someone because they’re that much of a **** house that they’d lie innit?

[Ammi]

Honestly the timing is just too good for me to fully believe this...

Awful when you don’t believe someone because they’re that much of a **** house that they’d lie innit?

...Roisin did that..?...

[JerseyWins]

I'm guessing he's asymptomatic at least atm? :think:

[Samm]

He’s 70+ isn’t he? Wow heard the death rate is worse for older people and FAT people. Just like trump :worry: scary stuff!

[bots]

pence is always close by him, so he probably has it too

[arista]

He’s 70+ isn’t he? Wow heard the death rate is worse for older people and FAT people. Just like trump :worry: scary stuff!


Yes 74 and fat.

[arista]

Pence is always close by him, so he probably has it too


He is on the next Debate

[caprimint]

OOF the way he's gonna recover then win the election :flutter:

[reece(:]

pence is always close by him, so he probably has it too

And both of them have been avoiding wearing a mask when together.

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US President Donald Trump followed by Vice President Mike Pence walk up to deliver an update on the nations coronavirus testing strategy in the Rose Garden of the White House on 28 September 2020 in Washington, DC. Photograph: Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images

[reece(:]

Maybe he can cure himself with an injection of bleach? :think:

[arista]

Maybe he can cure himself with an injection of bleach? :think:


Yes Biden even said that

[arista]

AOC walking to the white house after trump is 6 feet under

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/skypewilliams/70334858/35680/35680_600.gif



You Devil

[arista]

He could delay the Election?

[reece(:]

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[Shaun]

He'll obviously get the best medical care so there's most likely no risk of anything fatal/terminal happening. I don't really see where there's a potential for the election being delayed either; haven't those wheels already been set in motion? I don't know what the procedure for an incumbent falling (perhaps deathly) ill towards the end of a term would be; surely it'd be Pence taking over?

[arista]

He'll obviously get the best medical care so there's most likely no risk of anything fatal/terminal happening. I don't really see where there's a potential for the election being delayed either; haven't those wheels already been set in motion? I don't know what the procedure for an incumbent falling (perhaps deathly) ill towards the end of a term would be; surely it'd be Pence taking over?


Yes so long as he is free of it.

[Cherie]

Surprised it took this long tbh

[Samm]

He'll obviously get the best medical care so there's most likely no risk of anything fatal/terminal happening. I don't really see where there's a potential for the election being delayed either; haven't those wheels already been set in motion? I don't know what the procedure for an incumbent falling (perhaps deathly) ill towards the end of a term would be; surely it'd be Pence taking over?

If by 20th January next year someone isn’t elected, the speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi would automatically become president until someone is elected.

[arista]

Live on CNN HD
they think Biden may postpone his campaign.

There Doctor thinks he has a 90% of surviving

[caprimint]

Surprised it took this long tbh
Honestly these were my thoughts too, I'm shocked he hadn't gotten it before

[bots]

the next debate is in a couple of weeks, so it's feasible that he could be back for that. It being Trump, there is no certainty that the story is even true ... so there is that too

[Amy Jade]

wouldn't be sad if he never recovered. He is a tyrant.

[user104658]

*sniff sniff*

I smell ****e.

His inevitable "grand recovery" is an electioneering tactic :idc:

[UserSince2005]

My trumpy, I hope he can pull through, I dont want him seeing heavens gates yet.

[Nicky91]

poor Melania :(


not shocked Donnie's stupidity in underestimating the virus, not wearing face masks led to this at all

[Nicky91]

*sniff sniff*

I smell ****e.

His inevitable "grand recovery" is an electioneering tactic :idc:

the good old ''sympathy votes'' for the elections tactic, yep


also underlying conditions blah blah blah, Bolsonaro also had underlying health condition, same even in UK, british trump Boris also underlying health problem

[bots]

there are all sorts of conspiracy theories floating around ...

-Realising that he is going to lose the election, he pretends to be ill, cedes power to pence who then pardons him

- is it a tactic to disrupt the election ... did he give it to Biden


If it was anyone other than trump, everyone would believe it, but not with Trump.

The other issue is that this affects both the senate and a lot of top security officials who should now be quarantining ... its a real **** show :laugh:

[MB.]

omg does this mean he might have to pull out of Strictly

[joeysteele]

Have to admit myself, my suspicious side has me wondering, with this coming just after a really bad for debates and Nation performance on the TV debate.

However, after seeing the horrible, destructive virus this is.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
So if he has it and his wife, I hope they get over it and don't have the really awful and frightening elements of it affecting them.

[arista]

Have to admit myself, my suspicious side has me wondering, with this coming just after a really bad for debates and Nation performance on the TV debate.

However, after seeing the horrible, destructive virus this is.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
So if he has it and his wife, I hope they get over it and don't have the really awful and frightening elements of it affecting them.



No Joey
On that debate his face was more tense
I think he had it then.

[arista]

there are all sorts of conspiracy theories floating around ...

-Realising that he is going to lose the election, he pretends to be ill, cedes power to pence who then pardons him

- is it a tactic to disrupt the election ... did he give it to Biden


If it was anyone other than trump, everyone would believe it, but not with Trump.

The other issue is that this affects both the senate and a lot of top security officials who should now be quarantining ... its a real **** show :laugh:



No he could end up in a Hospital Type set up
within the White House
and Delay the Election.

His wife also has it
she does not need to be as corrupt as you dream

[arista]

*sniff sniff*

I smell ****e.

His inevitable "grand recovery" is an electioneering tactic :idc:


No more like no choice
but to delay the Election to the end on November

[Kazanne]

Have to admit myself, my suspicious side has me wondering, with this coming just after a really bad for debates and Nation performance on the TV debate.

However, after seeing the horrible, destructive virus this is.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
So if he has it and his wife, I hope they get over it and don't have the really awful and frightening elements of it affecting them.

Me too Joey and thats a nice post as I know you don't like him.

[Nicky91]

No more like no choice
but to delay the Election to the end on November

no delays, if necessary just cancel election and give power to Nancy Pelosi

then some real change for the better could come to america, with no longer the failed republicans in command


Donald could've prevented it so easy being infected, if he had worn face masks more often (and also this is his karma kinda for mocking/laughing at Biden who did wear a face mask at debate)


CNN already spoke if Donald is no longer capable of being president, that Pence should take over, that scenario also already on people's minds

but we'll see in next few days, important if he'll have any symptoms of the virus or not

[bots]

No more like no choice
but to delay the Election to the end on November

the election will not be delayed. He contracted it from his own negligence

[MTVN]

Yes 74 and fat.

He is in very good health for his age

[Tom4784]

Considering his **** leadership has been responsible for over 200k deaths, considering the children that have died or gone missing after being seperated from their parents under his watch at the border (among other human rights abuses in that situation), considering the violence he's fuelled from the extreme right

Really with this edit? The man is responsible for 200,000 deaths in the US. I don't think we should get precious over wishing death on him. Would we be as precious about Kim Jong Un? Or any other leader responsible for mass death?

[Liam-]

Find it very hard to believe, but if it’s true, I hope he recovers so he can lose the election and go straight to prison along with his dumb**** kids

[arista]

no delays, if necessary just cancel election and give power to Nancy Pelosi

then some real change for the better could come to America, with no longer the failed republicans in command


Donald could've prevented it so easy being infected, if he had worn face masks more often (and also this is his karma kinda for mocking/laughing at Biden who did wear a face mask at debate)


CNN already spoke if Donald is no longer capable of being president, that Pence should take over, that scenario also already on people's minds

but we'll see in next few days, important if he'll have any symptoms of the virus or not


Nancy for a few weeks.

[arista]

He is in very good health for his age


We will find out in 2 Weeks
when the China Deadly Virus kicks in.



Ref: Dr. Sarah Jarvis

[GiRTh]

If its true then I wish him a speedy recovery but the fact he was the one who announced it, makes me very suspicious.

[bots]

If its true then I wish him a speedy recovery but the fact he was the one who announced it, makes me very suspicious.

i'm highly skeptical too ... there should potentially be hundreds of people going in to quarantine ... and i bet that doesnt happen

[Liam-]

He was at a massive government dinner last night, they should all be quarantined

[bots]

and for Arista ... by law, the election cannot be delayed

[Nicky91]

He was at a massive government dinner last night, they should all be quarantined

welp, yes they should be in quarantine, just like people who work close to him over at white house, any bodyguards of his at rally's

[Zizu]

He’s 70+ isn’t he? Wow heard the death rate is worse for older people and FAT people. Just like trump :worry: scary stuff!



Male , overweight , over stressed and over 70 ...


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[Wizard.]

It's a very good excuse to pull out of the next debate isn't it...

[Zizu]

My trumpy, I hope he can pull through, I dont want him seeing heavens gates yet.



They’d never let him in anyways


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[Nicky91]

i wish Donald a speedy recovery anyway, even though i do not like him as president

but a good thing he got tested now, since he had a rally in Orlando scheduled, kinda a few cases prevented over there probably, or at least not by him now

[Zizu]

. He contracted it from his own negligence



Allegedly contracted from one of his close aides ..

:)

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[bots]

Apparently contracted from one of his close aides ... Holly Hicks

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they don't really know, but they didn't social distance and rarely wore masks ... so what did they expect ... that is negligence

[Oliver_W]

I'm sure as no-one here is a psychopath, we all wish him a speedy recovery.

[GiRTh]

Just found out Associated Press broke the story before Donnie T's tweet. I wonder if this will make him change his attitude?

[bots]

Just found out Associated Press broke the story before Donnie T's tweet. I wonder if this will make him change his attitude?

depends how serious a dose he gets ... if its next to nothing he will say he was right, there is nothing to worry about

if he survives but is at deaths door, it may be a different matter ... but if he isn't president, i don't think it will matter.


I keep thinking that this is a planned event to get pence to take over, give trump a bucket full of pardons and trump disappears into the sunset

[Liam-]

Hope Hicks tested positive for the virus after being in his presence and he still went out and did rallies and appearances without isolating like he should have done, it’s beyond irresponsible

[GiRTh]

depends how serious a dose he gets ... if its next to nothing he will say he was right, there is nothing to worry about

if he survives but is at deaths door, it may be a different matter ... but if he isn't president, i don't think it will matter.


I keep thinking that this is a planned event to get pence to take over, give trump a bucket full of pardons and trump disappears into the sunsetFor any normal person that would be the best scenario but I'm concerned about Trump being isolated ie not on TV - for any period of time. He will hate that and I'm not sure he could actually self isolate for any amount of time. He needs that limelight and adulation too much. I see the play you're suggesting happening after the election if he loses but, this has come at the worst time for him. Bidens out there campaigning while Trumps in bed isnt something I can see Donnie tolerating.

[GiRTh]

I'd forgot about the 25 amendment. If Trump is really sick and they make invoke it then Pence temporarily becomes President. I now think its probably for the best if Pence takes over.

[arista]

Trump will still Tweet
so he is happy.

[arista]

I wish Donald a speedy recovery anyway, even though I do not like him as president

but a good thing he got tested now, since he had a rally in Orlando scheduled, kinda a few cases prevented over there probably, or at least not by him now


Best way to put it Nicky

[GiRTh]

Trump will still Tweet
so he is happy.Cant wait for Biden to slam him on the campaign trail while Donnie goes on twitter rants in self isolation.

[arista]

Biden sends prayers to Trump and his Wife.

In a Tweet.

[bots]

he will be spending his days glued to fox news .... so it wont be any different

[arista]

Cant wait for Biden to slam him on the campaign trail while Donnie goes on twitter rants in self isolation.


Maybe Biden
will halt his Campaign.


He can Also Tweet.

[Liam-]

Maybe Biden
will halt his Campaign.


He can Also Tweet.

Why would he do that?

[Jack_]

Been on the phone to Johnson has he?

[arista]

Why would he do that?


To show he has respect.
He can still Win.

[arista]

Been on the phone to Johnson has he?


Sure, nothing wrong with that.

[Liam-]

To show he has respect.
He can still Win.

There’s no need for him to do that

[bots]

Well, Arista does have a point ... Trump has been so respectful toward Biden :joker:

[arista]

There’s no need for him to do that

We will see

[Liam-]

We will see

Would Trump do it?

[arista]

Well, Arista does have a point ... Trump has been so respectful toward Biden :joker:

Of Course Trump is not into Respect


But Biden is.

[arista]

Would Trump do it?


Yes I think he could be forced to
thus getting more votes
for showing rare respect.

[arista]

Nancy Has gone Live
MSNBC

She says its tragic
a learning experience


And Prays for Trump and his wife

[Liam-]

Yes I think he could be forced to
thus getting more votes
for showing rare respect.

Oh please

[Oliver_W]

I now think its probably for the best if Pence takes over.
The electric companies sure would love that :hehe:

[bots]

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[Kizzy]

Have you been getting a bit too close to holly Don? Did you feel a little prick?

If he's lucky he'll only have enough for his body to produce antibodies, if not then for certain it'll be Biden or Pelosi come Nov.
If it isn't has some have suggested a carefully scripted rouse, that would be silly as karma is a bitch.

[Tom4784]

I'm sure as no-one here is a psychopath, we all wish him a speedy recovery.

I don't, he is responsible for 200k deaths in the US due to denying and downplaying the virus and through spreading misinformation and trying to turn a pandemic into a political battleground. The man is a mass murderer at this point, **** wishing him well, my sympathy is with the people who have died because of him.

[arista]

This has made the Markets go down
they do not like surprises.

[caprimint]

Well, Arista does have a point ... Trump has been so respectful toward Biden :joker:
They're both equally as respectful to each other...

[bots]

i wouldn't lose any sleep if he were to get seriously ill

[MTVN]

Let's hope death also comes to the leaders of France, Spain, Italy, Brazil, India, Mexico, Peru, Iran, Belgium, the UK etc etc I guess

[Jordan.]

https://i.imgur.com/cPTqazH.gif

[Tom4784]

Let's hope death also comes to the leaders of France, Spain, Italy, Brazil, India, Mexico, Peru, Iran, Belgium, the UK etc etc I guess

If any world leader endangered their people like Trump has, then they deserve no sympathy.

Also your comparison is flawed since no countries, even when you adjust to ratios, has suffered losses like the US. Trump's deadly incompetence has been catastrophic for the US and there should be no defending it no matter which side of the political spectrum you fall on.

[MTVN]

If any world leader endangered their people like Trump has, then they deserve no sympathy.

Also your comparison is flawed since no countries, even when you adjust to ratios, has suffered losses like the US. Trump's deadly incompetence has been catastrophic for the US and there should be no defending it no matter which side of the political spectrum you fall on.

Several countries have suffered more deaths per capita including half of the ones I mentioned there. Belgium have one of the worst in the world under a female, liberal leader.

[Tom4784]

Several countries have suffered more deaths per capita including half of the ones I mentioned there. Belgium have one of the worst in the world under a female, liberal leader.

Then **** her too for being incompetent. It's a bit strange that you mention her being female and liberal though, are you suggesting that's why she is incompetent? Are you trying to be like 'Look, the other side is incompetent too!' because either is a grim take to have.

This is a pandemic, I don't care about a leader's political leaning, I only care whether they are handling the situation in a competent manner, perhaps you should strive to do the same rather than trying to defend gross incompetence based on whether the leader is right wing or not.

[Crimson Dynamo]

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who recovered after contracting the virus earlier in the year, tweeted, “My best wishes to President Trump and the First Lady. Hope they both have a speedy recovery from coronavirus.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wrote on Twitter, “Like millions of Israelis, Sara (Netanyahu’s wife) and I are thinking of President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump and wish our friends a full and speedy recovery.”

In his get well soon message, Polish President Andrzej Duda tweeted: “Our good wishes for speedy recovery to our Friends… Poland and USA will get through the hardships and succeed in fighting COVID19.”

European Council President Charles Michel wrote on Twitter: “Wishing @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS a speedy recovery. COVIDー19 is a battle we all continue to fight. Everyday. No matter where we live.”

World Health Organization Chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, also tweeted “My best wishes to President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS for a full and speedy recovery.”

US Vice President Mike Pence was one of the earliest well-wishers. “Karen and I send our love and prayers to our dear friends President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS Melania Trump. We join millions across America praying for their full and swift recovery. God bless you President Trump & our wonderful First Lady Melania, ” he twitted at about 2am Friday.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/10/02/world-leaders-send-well-wishes-to-trump-wife/

World leaders flocking to wish DOnald and his wife well :clap1:

[MTVN]

Then **** her too for being incompetent. It's a bit strange that you mention her being female and liberal though, are you suggesting that's why she is incompetent? Are you trying to be like 'Look, the other side is incompetent too!' because either is a grim take to have.

This is a pandemic, I don't care about a leader's political leaning, I only care whether they are handling the situation in a competent manner, perhaps you should strive to do the same rather than trying to defend gross incompetence based on whether the leader is right wing or not.

Not at all, I was pointing out that leaders of all backgrounds have struggled to confront this pandemic and that maybe we should all be a little bit more humble about the challenges they've had to face and refrain from wishing death on them - that really is a grim reaction to the biggest challenge humanity has faced in a century

[Nicky91]

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who recovered after contracting the virus earlier in the year, tweeted, “My best wishes to President Trump and the First Lady. Hope they both have a speedy recovery from coronavirus.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wrote on Twitter, “Like millions of Israelis, Sara (Netanyahu’s wife) and I are thinking of President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump and wish our friends a full and speedy recovery.”

In his get well soon message, Polish President Andrzej Duda tweeted: “Our good wishes for speedy recovery to our Friends… Poland and USA will get through the hardships and succeed in fighting COVID19.”

European Council President Charles Michel wrote on Twitter: “Wishing @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS a speedy recovery. COVIDー19 is a battle we all continue to fight. Everyday. No matter where we live.”

World Health Organization Chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, also tweeted “My best wishes to President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS for a full and speedy recovery.”

US Vice President Mike Pence was one of the earliest well-wishers. “Karen and I send our love and prayers to our dear friends President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS Melania Trump. We join millions across America praying for their full and swift recovery. God bless you President Trump & our wonderful First Lady Melania, ” he twitted at about 2am Friday.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/10/02/world-leaders-send-well-wishes-to-trump-wife/

World leaders flocking to wish DOnald and his wife well :clap1:

yes Germany's Merkel, and our PM Rutte as well

[Mitchell]

l

This is a pandemic, I don't care about a leader's political leaning, I only care whether they are handling the situation in a competent manner, perhaps you should strive to do the same rather than trying to defend gross incompetence based on whether the leader is right wing or not.

:clap1: it’s not about politics, it’s about human decency and actually trying to help the people you’re supposed to be representing, rather than risking their lives for political gain.

[Tom4784]

Not at all, I was pointing out that leaders of all backgrounds have struggled to confront this pandemic and that maybe we should all be a little bit more humble about the challenges they've had to face and refrain from wishing death on them - that really is a grim reaction to the biggest challenge humanity has faced in a century

What's grim is you trying to group in Trump with the rest of the leaders, tbh. He is not a man struggling to solve the problem that is the pandemic, he's content with trampling over the dead and pretending it's not a problem. He is not breaking his back trying to solve the problem, he's going to lengths to deny and downplay and push a fake cure to help his son's stock portfolio.

I have sympathy for world leaders that are doing their best, there's plenty of countries that have been hit hard yet are holding their own like Japan and Korea who are right next to China, yet they've kept a hold of things through quick action and by tackling the problem head on.

Any leader that downplayed and dismissed the virus despite advance warnings is grossly incompetent and a danger to their people. Trump is the president, it's his incompetence that has led to the 200k+ deaths that the US has suffered.

[Elliot]

Trump isn’t going to die because he’s going to receive the most prime healthcare while Americans don’t even get access to basic health care and are dying right under his nose, directly as a result of a bs system his politics perpetuate

[MTVN]

What's grim is you trying to group in Trump with the rest of the leaders, tbh. He is not a man struggling to solve the problem that is the pandemic, he's content with trampling over the dead and pretending it's not a problem. He is not breaking his back trying to solve the problem, he's going to lengths to deny and downplay and push a fake cure to help his son's stock portfolio.

I have sympathy for world leaders that are doing their best, there's plenty of countries that have been hit hard yet are holding their own like Japan and Korea who are right next to China, yet they've kept a hold of things through quick action and by tackling the problem head on.

Any leader that downplayed and dismissed the virus despite advance warnings is grossly incompetent and a danger to their people. Trump is the president, it's his incompetence that has led to the 200k+ deaths that the US has suffered.

So Trump is uniquely mishandling it then despite other countries faring worse? Got it

Sure there's a lot of mistakes in there and of course many mistakes have been made at a local level in the US where governors etc. have more control over what happens in their area really than the President does. Where does the list of 'people who deserve to die because of their response to Covid' end though? Better off not having one in the first place imo

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump isn’t going to die because he’s going to receive the most prime healthcare while Americans don’t even get access to basic health care and are dying right under his nose, directly as a result of a bs system his politics perpetuate

its a system Americans vote for and Americans think our NHS is crazy and would never vote for it in a month of sundays

[Tom4784]

So Trump is uniquely mishandling it then despite other countries faring worse? Got it

Sure there's a lot of mistakes in there and of course many mistakes have been made at a local level in the US where governors etc. have more control over what happens in their area really than the President does. Where does the list of 'people who deserve to die because of their response to Covid' end though? Better off not having one in the first place imo

Trump denied the virus was a thing even though he and other world leaders were warned about it weeks before it became a pandemic. He spread discord, he pushed hydroxychloroquine because of his family's business interests and he made out that the 'fuss' surrounding it was a left wing ploy. It's no coincidence that the worst hit states are red states and counties within them that are run by Trump allies.

So yes, you've got it right. Trump is rather unque but not alone (oh hi, Jair Bolsonero!) in his incompetence and it certainly impacts my empathy for him when hundreds of thousands of families have lost loved ones due to his incompetence and influence.

I implore you to let your political biases slide and simply criticise Trump for his mishandling of the situation rather then try to defend him out of Right Wing solidarity. This isn't an issue about left or right (although you certainly tried with your example in the post about the liberal leader), it's about who is handling the virus well and my sympathy will never be with those leaders who are not, my heart will go out only to those who have lost their lives or family due to the virus, not the people in charge who let it get this bad.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Good news he only has mild symptoms so far

[caprimint]

Good news he only has mild symptoms so far
Trump to set records of the quickest recovery EVER? :dance:

[Nicky91]

Good news he only has mild symptoms so far

you can't say anything by now, you can only now after a week if he'll develop symptoms, and what kind, if it are mild symptoms or worse

[MTVN]

Trump denied the virus was a thing even though he and other world leaders were warned about it weeks before it became a pandemic. He spread discord, he pushed hydroxychloroquine because of his family's business interests and he made out that the 'fuss' surrounding it was a left wing ploy. It's no coincidence that the worst hit states are red states and counties within them that are run by Trump allies.

So yes, you've got it right. Trump is rather unque but not alone (oh hi, Jair Bolsonero!) in his incompetence and it certainly impacts my empathy for him when hundreds of thousands of families have lost loved ones due to his incompetence and influence.

I implore you to let your political biases slide and simply criticise Trump for his mishandling of the situation rather then try to defend him out of Right Wing solidarity. This isn't an issue about left or right (although you certainly tried with your example in the post about the liberal leader), it's about who is handling the virus well and my sympathy will never be with those leaders who are not, my heart will go out only to those who have lost their lives or family due to the virus, not the people in charge who let it get this bad.

I havent defended his handling nor did I criticise other leaders who have similarly struggled to contain the pandemic. I'm not the one wishing death on people for it. My point was not trying to make it right vs left but the contrary (that there's not much correlation between political leanings and success against the virus), was just interested to see who made your list of people who's Covid policy meant they deserved death.

[Crimson Dynamo]

you can't say anything by now, you can only now after a week if he'll develop symptoms, and what kind, if it are mild symptoms or worse

I cant but The WHite House can

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54391986

[Jake.]

Wasn’t it only four years ago he was mocking Hilary’s pneumonia?

[Nicky91]

Biden has tested negative


so that is what the difference makes between wearing a mask or not

[Nicky91]

It’s really gross that some members are wishing death on leaders/people.

That used to be a banable offence... I guess if it’s trump or certain people then it’s okay :shrug:

I hope he recovers well, I wouldn’t wish unwell on any US/U.K. politician, using your left/right wing stance or your political stance to wish death upon others is not acceptable at all and People that have these views have a very worrying and unhealthy outlook on life/politics

It’s incredibly worrying. What’s next, someone says something non PC in 5 years, let’s kill them? They deserve death?? In 50 years, I don’t like their song.. hope they perish!

It’s scary that people cant disagree with Politics/views without wishing Ill harm on opposing views/topical issues.

Much respect for joeySteele for not wishing harm on one of his political enemies, he shows a good leave of maturity and is able to seperate personal from political. People can certainly learn from him.

i would never wish death on anyone, i just myself do not sympathize for trump now, i more sympathize for Melania

politics, news has really gone backwards with the too PC culture i agree :(


anyway your posts Douglas +100

[caprimint]

Biden has tested negative


so that is what the difference makes between wearing a mask or not
No it doesn't. If anything, it would mean vice versa since Biden wears a mask everywhere.

Masks don't stop YOU from catching corona.

[Liam-]

Trump - refuses to wear a mask, doesn’t make his team or his family wear masks, refuses to socially distance, holds rallies where people are encouraged to not socially distance and not wear masks if they don’t want to - catches COVID

Biden - wears a mask everywhere, his team wears masks, he encourages his supporters to wear masks and social distance, holds socially distanced press conferences, not packed rallies due to health concerns - doesn’t catch COVID

Trumps entire ‘he looks weak and stupid in his mask!’ campaign gets washed down the drain

[Mitchell]

Trump - refuses to wear a mask, doesn’t make his team or his family wear masks, refuses to socially distance, holds rallies where people are encouraged to not socially distance and not wear masks if they don’t want to - catches COVID

Biden - wears a mask everywhere, his team wears masks, he encourages his supporters to wear masks and social distance, holds socially distanced press conferences, not packed rallies due to health concerns - doesn’t catch COVID

Trumps entire ‘he looks weak and stupid in his mask!’ campaign gets washed down the drain

It’s his own fault really

[caprimint]

It’s his own fault really
So you think everybody who has died, it's their own fault?

Really dumb, awful and disgusting comment to make...

[Liam-]

It’s his own fault really

Pretty much yeah, it’s just a shame he’s inspired so many people to act the same way because they idolise him, imagine how many people would still be alive today if he had been more responsible

[caprimint]

Funny that people think it's "Trump's fault" when actually no, it relies on others to wear masks, not him :skull:

BIASED TILL THE END!

[bots]

we all know what we need to do to protect others and ourselves from covid and Trump was negligent in that encouraging others not to follow basic measures and mocking those who did follow the rules. It's negligent, and he certainly didnt help protect himself or his family

[Mitchell]

So you think everybody who has died, it's their own fault?

Really dumb, awful and disgusting comment to make...

No, not at all.

But if someone constantly goes against scientific advice and uses their power and platform to mock mask wearers, doesn’t social distance, holds rallies of thousands of their cult members not social distanced or wearing masks, let’s the virus spread further as a direct consequence of their actions and then catches COVID, a virus they were calling a hoax months ago, then they are to blame.

[AnnieK]

Funny that people think it's "Trump's fault" when actually no, it relies on others to wear masks, not him :skull:

BIASED TILL THE END!

So how many others will he have passed it to by refusing to wear one?

I hope he recovers quickly and does not get severe symptoms but sees the importance of measures put in place to protect people.

[Mitchell]

So how many others will he have passed it to by refusing to wear one?

I hope he recovers quickly and does not get severe symptoms but sees the importance of measures put in place to protect people.

This post sums my opinions on this topic up perfectly, I hope this alerts people to the seriousness of this virus and that some good comes out of it with further awareness.

[Samm]

Masks don't stop YOU from catching corona.

Funny that people think it's "Trump's fault" when actually no, it relies on others to wear masks, not him :skull:

BIASED TILL THE END!

So you agree? Masks stop you from catching corona?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/034/652/agree.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[caprimint]

So you agree? Masks stop you from catching corona?

Never. Masks do **** all and should not be a thing.

[caprimint]

Nigel Farage spilling how vile people are :clap1: Again, not shocking but we DO LOVE to see it to expose those nasty ones that people couldn't see beforehand :flutter:

[DouglasS]

So you agree? Masks stop you from catching corona?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/034/652/agree.jpg

She literally said masks may stop the transf of corona, not from you actually getting it. Hence People not wearing masks have given it to trump, not due to him not wearing the mask. Whether he wore a mask or not probably would have made no difference. That is what the science has suggested so far :shrug:

[Kate!]

Nigel Farage spilling how vile people are :clap1: Again, not shocking but we DO LOVE to see it to expose those nasty ones that people couldn't see beforehand :flutter:

Oh please. Farage is a blight on the planet just like Trump is.

Scumbags united

[Mitchell]

As he has said himself, he wears one when he thinks is appropriate which is the majority of UK/US citizens. So no, nothing to do with him 'not wearing a mask' as much as people like to think.


Again, he doesn't decide or choose what others do in his rallies. Stop trying to make him accountable.

There is absolutely ZERO excuse for hoping Trump dies from coronavirus. It's an incredibly disturbing and vile statement to make. Again, I am not shocked with it coming from you lol

‘Stop trying to make him accountable’ he’s the ****ing President?

‘It’s an incredibly disturbing and vile statement to make’ good job that I haven’t made that statement then isn’t it? I’ve clarified in reply to Annie my feelings on the subject and that I hope he brings awareness to this virus, but carry on telling me stuff I haven’t said...

[Liam-]

A president that routinely calls the virus a hoax, encourages people not to wear masks or social distance if they don’t want to, mocks people for following the health guidelines that keep people as safe as possible, most definitely needs to be accountable for his behaviour what people do or don’t do, as a result of it

[bots]

As he has said himself, he wears one when he thinks is appropriate which is the majority of UK/US citizens. So no, nothing to do with him 'not wearing a mask' as much as people like to think.


Again, he doesn't decide or choose what others do in his rallies. Stop trying to make him accountable.

There is absolutely ZERO excuse for hoping Trump dies from coronavirus. It's an incredibly disturbing and vile statement to make. Again, I am not shocked with it coming from you lol

he is the president, of course he decides what people do at his rallies, he said no masks and no social distancing ...you reap what you sow

[caprimint]

he is the president, of course he decides what people do at his rallies, he said no masks and no social distancing ...you reap what you sow
People do what they wanna do

Imagine being like "oh well I was TOLD what to do here"

Nah. People make their own decisions

[Liam-]

he is the president, of course he decides what people do at his rallies, he said no masks and no social distancing ...you reap what you sow

He purposely goes against the wishes of the local officials who have banned mass gatherings for the sake of their residents health, so he can hold his cult meetings, he puts the health of his countrys citizens at risk to make himself feel better, his entire handling of this pandemic will be investigated for years once he’s out of office, on top of everything else he’s done, I can’t wait to see him at The Hague

[bots]

People do what they wanna do

Imagine being like "oh well I was TOLD what to do here"

Nah. People make their own decisions

i'm sorry but you are totally wrong ... try reading, it might help

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is anyone posting what Donald should have done (bearing in mind its the United States and not the UK ie each state is like an individual country)

maybe members could list 5 things that should have been done and also include the economic impact and how that would have affected health?

[caprimint]

Yep, not sure what they would have done different if they were the next PM

[Josy]

Stick to the topic.

[Kate!]

Yep, not sure what they would have done different if they were the next PM

Wore a mask. Not sacrificed lives out of sheer bloody mindedness.

[Liam-]

Wore a mask. Not sacrificed lives out of sheer bloody mindedness.

Already better than Trump and Boris combined

[bots]

even if Trump has mild symptoms, this will likely floor him and sap his energy and don't forget that the message coming out from our government was that Boris had mild symptoms and was in high spirits ... even as he was being wheeled into intensive care. Administrations never tell the truth on a leaders health, so the next couple of weeks are going to be interesting, but don't believe the prepared message, it's rarely true

[DouglasS]

Wore a mask. Not sacrificed lives out of sheer bloody mindedness.

If I’m not mistaken you weren’t happy about masks at first :shrug:

[Ramsay]

If I’m not mistaken you weren’t happy about masks at first :shrug:

People can change their minds on things, I know what a crazy concept

[Kate!]

If I’m not mistaken you weren’t happy about masks at first :shrug:

You're mistaken. I have always been quite happy to wear a mask. Don't get me wrong they aren't exactly a fashion accessory but needs must.

[Zizu]

you can't say anything by now, you can only now after a week if he'll develop symptoms, and what kind, if it are mild symptoms or worse



That’s a good point .. one thing I recall about that first wave was the number of people who weren’t too ill and felt better after a week or so BUT then suddenly got very , very poorly very quickly


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[Barry.]

I don’t like trump but I hope he recovers

[Josy]

if I see any more vile personal comments its immediate bans either stick to the topic within the rules or dont post in the thread

[Tom4784]

I havent defended his handling nor did I criticise other leaders who have similarly struggled to contain the pandemic. I'm not the one wishing death on people for it. My point was not trying to make it right vs left but the contrary (that there's not much correlation between political leanings and success against the virus), was just interested to see who made your list of people who's Covid policy meant they deserved death.

You definitely are making it a Right vs Left issue since you chose to use a left wing example as a 'gotcha' which completely flopped since I don't care which side someone falls on if they are dangerously incompetent, can you say the same?

If we were talking about Putin, or Kim Jong Un, or any other world leader who has caused suffering on a mass scale, would you be making out that people were evil for not caring if they lived or died? I think not.

As I said before, in majority of the post you chose to ignore because it deflated your argument completely that it's as much local government's fault as federal, The large number of deaths in the US is purely down to Trump's leadership downplaying the virus and turning it into a political weapon against the left. So many people are convinced it's not real or not a problem because of him and, as I said before, that's proven by looking at red states and states in which Trump Allies are in charge of, which tend to be the worst hit by the virus. Brazil is also high in Covid deaths and that's no doubt down to Bolsonero being similarly dismissive of Covid like Trump is. It's common sense really, if you have a leader that's spreading misinformation and is downplaying the virus, the country they run will suffer for it.

You're trying to make me out to be some vicious evil person for not caring about someone whose incompetence has caused so much loss for hundreds of thousands of families. My sympathy goes to them, not the monster that enabled such widespread death.

[Tom4784]

Never. Masks do **** all and should not be a thing.

Science disagrees.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don’t like trump but I hope he recovers

Great post
:clap1:

[bots]

there is more info coming out on trumps health. They are giving him anti body treatment and he is fatigued and he has a fever, so there is a level of concern

[Zizu]

Science disagrees.



Well there was a microbiologist on ITV a week or so ago saying that you can fit 250,000 Covid particles on a pinhead which equates to an ant walking through some park gates when you think your mask is gonna protect you ( or anyone else ) .
Masks simply catch the bigger droplets ..


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[Tom4784]

Well there was a microbiologist on ITV a week or so ago saying that you can fit 250,000 Covid particles on a pinhead which equates to an ant walking through some park gates when you think your mask is gonna protect you ( or anyone else ) .
Masks simply catch the bigger droplets ..


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Well, you said it yourself, masks do something.

[Zizu]

Well, you said it yourself, masks do something.



Very , very little though .... was his point


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[bots]

breaking news, Trump is being transferred to hospital

[MTVN]

You definitely are making it a Right vs Left issue since you chose to use a left wing example as a 'gotcha' which completely flopped since I don't care which side someone falls on if they are dangerously incompetent, can you say the same?

If we were talking about Putin, or Kim Jong Un, or any other world leader who has caused suffering on a mass scale, would you be making out that people were evil for not caring if they lived or died? I think not.

As I said before, in majority of the post you chose to ignore because it deflated your argument completely that it's as much local government's fault as federal, The large number of deaths in the US is purely down to Trump's leadership downplaying the virus and turning it into a political weapon against the left. So many people are convinced it's not real or not a problem because of him and, as I said before, that's proven by looking at red states and states in which Trump Allies are in charge of, which tend to be the worst hit by the virus. Brazil is also high in Covid deaths and that's no doubt down to Bolsonero being similarly dismissive of Covid like Trump is. It's common sense really, if you have a leader that's spreading misinformation and is downplaying the virus, the country they run will suffer for it.

You're trying to make me out to be some vicious evil person for not caring about someone whose incompetence has caused so much loss for hundreds of thousands of families. My sympathy goes to them, not the monster that enabled such widespread death.

Again I'm not the one accusing leaders of being 'monsters', 'dangerously incompetent' and having 'enabled widespread death' so I don't need to say the same - I haven't used that language about anyone because I think it's disproportionate and irresponsible

There's two issues here - one is how well/badly Trump has handled the pandemic; the second is whether he deserves to die for it. I am solely arguing on the second one: that he does not deserve to die.

[arista]

breaking news, Trump is being transferred to hospital


Yes Walter Reed Hospital
he has a Fever

[arista]

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[MTVN]

All feeling very deja vu from when Boris went in - 'precautionary measure', 'in good spirits' etc

Hope it doesn't get to the same stage

[bots]

All feeling very deja vu from when Boris went in - 'precautionary measure', 'in good spirits' etc

Hope it doesn't get to the same stage

yeah, i think its the same tone but speeded up ... if he has a fever he may already have had it for a week

[AnnieK]

He's being treated with an experimental cocktail of drugs. I hope he does recover quickly and its precautionary. Still echo my earlier statement that he takes the advised precautions more seriously in future

[bots]

i think the fact that they are giving him an anti body injection that has only ever been given to 250 people, that there is a problem

[user104658]

Again I'm not the one accusing leaders of being 'monsters', 'dangerously incompetent' and having 'enabled widespread death' so I don't need to say the same - I haven't used that language about anyone because I think it's disproportionate and irresponsible

There's two issues here - one is how well/badly Trump has handled the pandemic; the second is whether he deserves to die for it. I am solely arguing on the second one: that he does not deserve to die.

I don't think he "deserves" to die but he's in his mid 70's, a large catalyst in a historic rift in American society, a white supremacist and an alleged (in my opinion probable) sex offender possibly including minors.

So while I'm not on board with "wishing" death on people, if Baby Jesus came down and said "Guys, dad says someone has to die or he's gonna do rapture" ... I'm just saying ... there are worse picks.

[UserSince2005]

my trumpy he needs to pull through. America would be nothing without him.
What a true hero.

[user104658]

i think the fact that they are giving him an anti body injection that has only ever been given to 250 people, that there is a problem

Maybe because he's bad, maybe because he's stupid and powerful and has insisted on "all the best cutting edge stuff". With Trump it could honestly be either. I think he's proven himself to be naive enough about health to believe that taking every experimental treatment going is a good idea - and insisting on it would be pretty on-brand.

[Amy Jade]

asif people are still arguing over if masks are helping to protect from covid.

They are. It is a scientific fact.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/nBMsuev20LQ8KSU3KpuqCg/https/media.fyre.co/eRf6X82JRL2gFTTiwiRh_daily-star-front-0310-trump_1601671973.JPG

[Cherie]

All feeling very deja vu from when Boris went in - 'precautionary measure', 'in good spirits' etc

Hope it doesn't get to the same stage

Nobody is taken into hospital if symptoms are mild

[user104658]

asif people are still arguing over if masks are helping to protect from covid.

They are. It is a scientific fact.

Zips wholeheartedly agrees m'lady.

[Tom4784]

Again I'm not the one accusing leaders of being 'monsters', 'dangerously incompetent' and having 'enabled widespread death' so I don't need to say the same - I haven't used that language about anyone because I think it's disproportionate and irresponsible

There's two issues here - one is how well/badly Trump has handled the pandemic; the second is whether he deserves to die for it. I am solely arguing on the second one: that he does not deserve to die.

I'm not accusing him of those things, he is those things. He is dangerously incompetent, he has enabled widespread death. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck. It's not dangerous or irresponsible to hold a leader accountable for his actions, and his actions have had grave irreversible consequences for so many people that have lost loved ones.

To me, he is no different to Kim Jong Un, or Putin or any other monster in a position of power and I doubt you would ever show those leaders the same consideration you're showing Trump now. I don't pretend to feel sorry for cruel people when karma comes a-knocking. If he dies, it'll be no one's fault but his own and I'll be glad that the world would be rid of him.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/9A6D/production/_114733593_telegraph.jpg

[arista]

Nobody is taken into hospital if symptoms are mild


Hang on they taking him there
as he trying some new Experimental Meds
that needs a Proper Hospital as back up.

[Ammi]

If its true then I wish him a speedy recovery but the fact he was the one who announced it, makes me very suspicious.

...I’m still sceptical with it all../..the timing of it etc...and how quickly he’s apparently deteriorated ...it was said that any determination if it was to happen, would be in around 10 days or so...similar to Boris...but it seems to have happened within hours...something that appears to be baffling many people...anyways, sceptical has been his game and way with COVID...so he’s very much been a promoter and supporter of sceptical...

[Ammi]

If we’ve learned anything over the last four years, it’s that Donald Trump is a despicable human being and that calling him a “human being” may be too kind. Child separation, attacks on widows, “suckers” and “losers,” indifference about 200,000 dead Americans—you know his greatest hits. But on Tuesday night, during the first presidential debate, Trump apparently thought that the best way to reach undecided voters would be by making the case that he’s truly one of the worst people on earth and that there is no contest between him and Joe Biden vis-à-vis who is several rungs below pond scum on the asshole scale.

Hitting Trump on the report that he called dead soldiers “suckers” and “losers,” Biden told the president, “The way you talk about the military, the way you talk about them being losers and just being suckers—my son was in Iraq. He spent a year there. He got the Bronze Star. He got the Conspicuous Service medal. He was not a loser. He was a patriot, and the people left behind there were heroes.”

“Are you talking about Hunter?” Trump snarled.

“I’m talking about my son Beau Biden,” the former vice president said, referring to his son who died of brain cancer five years ago.

“I don’t know Beau,” Trump said without skipping a beat before launching into an attack on Biden’s son who is living, and whom he tried desperately to convince Ukraine to smear last year. “I know Hunter. Hunter got thrown out of the military. He was thrown out, dishonorably discharged…for cocaine use, and he didn’t have a job until you became vice president.”

While no one would have thought any less of Biden if he’d crossed the stage to sock Trump in the mouth, instead he offered a response that very likely connected with a lot of people in the country in a way that the current president never could, particularly considering America is still in the middle of an opioid crisis. “My son, like a lot of people, like a lot of people we know at home, had a drug problem,” Biden said. “He’s overtaken it. He’s fixed it. He’s worked on it. And I’m proud of him. I’m proud of my son.”

In sum, if viewers took one thing away from the debate, it’s probably that Donald Trump is a terrible person who has zero compunction about trashing someone’s son as they’re speaking about another child they tragically lost to brain cancer.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/donald-trump-joe-biden-hunter-biden-beau-biden

[Ammi]

...lest we forget, as they say...

[Ammi]

..’Americans react with anger, frustration and lack of concern’...

...apparently not all of his own people wish him well and they’ve lived with him.../...he’s impacted more on their lives...

[Ammi]

...he really has been callous about many lives in many ways ...although I don’t ‘wish’ on anyone...even those who actually take lives in the most horrendous ways, I wouldn't feel sorrow but I could never ‘wish’...it would go against everything I believe in...but I also understand the strength of negative feeling about him because of the low value he himself has placed on human life that he personally doesn’t approve of, for whatever reasons he hasn’t approved of ...someone who would build his wall and would have tagged and dehumanised ...will then inevitably have a wall of emotion and caring, built around him ...even before his time as president, he’s shown such low character ...he screeched for the death penalty of the Central Park 5../...5 innocent men...and when they were found beyond all doubt and actuality to be innocent...he’s refused to acknowledge that innocence or apologise to them..he maintains that he was right to scream ‘Yay’ for their death sentences...it’s understandable that someone of such grim character who has placed such little value on the lives of others in different way, has frozen much positive emotion toward him that would have been there for others ...and there is still scepticism as well to be added to that...

[Ammi]

..Twitter removing tweets that hope Trump dies of COVID.../... how Donald Trump's coronavirus infection blew up social media...



https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/donald-trumps-coronavirus-infection-blew-020709651.html

[joeysteele]

Again I'm not the one accusing leaders of being 'monsters', 'dangerously incompetent' and having 'enabled widespread death' so I don't need to say the same - I haven't used that language about anyone because I think it's disproportionate and irresponsible

There's two issues here - one is how well/badly Trump has handled the pandemic; the second is whether he deserves to die for it. I am solely arguing on the second one: that he does not deserve to die.

I have called our PM and in fact his best whole Cabinet dangerously incompetent and in my view, along with many other families, his lack of provision and action did enable the deaths of elderly, who were among the most vulnerable anyway, in Care homes.

The incompetence of not preparing proper testing and supplies of adequate protection equipment being largely the cause of those deaths.

Trump has dismissed and talked utter dangerous nonsense on this virus.
Plus thrown caution to the wind for himself and to others too.
At his rallies.

However, I'll repeat, I wished Johnson a good recovery when he had it, despite my total contempt for the man as a leader.
In fact I don't think he'd fully over it yet.

So much for those who say it's just a flu.

Earlier I said I hoped Trump will get over this too.
I never wish death on anyone.
I also stated clearly I'd never wish this virus on anyone.
I've lost people to it and know how cruel, hateful and destructive it is.

However, we have to judge all leaders, on competence, care and justice from what they do when they win power.
So I will restate I do consider both the leader of the USA and our PM as having been dangerously incompetent.
I do in part hold Johnson and his government responsible for the environment that lost so many deaths of those who needed protection in Care homes.
I'll stand by all that and never think it disproportionate and irresponsible.

This is a truly evil virus.
The destruction it leaves can be life changing fir life and that's even if you survive from a vulnerable grouping.
Something Trump has played down.

However again, as I did with our incompetent leader, I hope again for the USA incompetent on this pandemic leader.
A full recovery and as soon as possible.
Because this is a very destructive virus, which IF it really gets hold of you, is cruel and frightening as well as likely fatal too.

[joeysteele]

...lest we forget, as they say...

All great and very strong posting there Ammi.
Well presented.

[Cherie]

Hang on they taking him there
as he trying some new Experimental Meds
that needs a Proper Hospital as back up.

Its been reported he has a mild cough and headache, and has gone to hospital on advice of his doctors

Experimental medicine would be pretty useless on someone with very mild symptoms like that

[joeysteele]

Its been reported he has a mild cough and headache, and has gone to hospital on advice of his doctors

Experimental medicine would be pretty useless on someone with very mild symptoms like that

If that's all he has I agree with you they wouldn't get much knowledge from an experimental treatment.

I'd be more inclined to think because of his age it's a precautionary matter to have him in hospital hopefully.

Yes, Johnson went to Hospital later in his time with it but he is far younger than Trump.
So it makes sense to, with him in his 70s, to keep him under observation in hospital.

[Ammi]

...I just can’t fathom atm...’experimental’ being used on the President of the USA...

[joeysteele]

Apparently they are trying it out on him.
So I was incorrect in my assumption there.

[AnnieK]

...I just can’t fathom atm...’experimental’ being used on the President of the USA...

I think its only experimental as far as Covid goes. Its been used successfully for other illnesses, Sars etc so I think its safe for human use but not proven for treating Covid as yet.

[bots]

i'm still not sure if it's all true or not and that comes from the history of his administration flat out lying on a regular basis

What has become clear is that people were/are not being tested every day at the WH and the test they use under reports infection by 30%. They haven't been able to say when Trump was last tested before he was tested positive ... that's odd, and one scenario is that the reason he has a fever etc is because he has actually had the virus for a week already ... probably from the judge event the previous weekend. Which means he was infected at the time of his debate with Biden. That being the case ... it could take up to 14 days from the date of the debate for Biden to test positive, so testing negative yesterday is no indicator. This could get even more crazy yet

[user104658]

Smoke and mirrors :idc:.

[Ammi]

Smoke and mirrors :idc:.

...yep well...there’s that as well...

[bots]

i don't think the chinese believe he has covid. Their response was to note reports that Trump had covid and wish him a speedy recovery

[Kazanne]

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That's disgusting, just because he is isn't doing and saying what they want him too, what's wrong with some people,we wont all have the same views,what a boring world this would be if we did, I have no feelings towards him whatsoever ,I dont know him personally, but to wish him dead says more about that person who tweeted than him.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1312317015823134721/mav_fRcC?format=jpg&name=900x900


As Trump went to the Helicopter
for his brief flight to the Hospital
he Had to have a mask on.

[bots]

https://i.imgur.com/WIkHhAb.jpg

[Zizu]

If that's all he has I agree with you they wouldn't get much knowledge from an experimental treatment.



I'd be more inclined to think because of his age it's a precautionary matter to have him in hospital hopefully.



Yes, Johnson went to Hospital later in his time with it but he is far younger than Trump.

So it makes sense to, with him in his 70s, to keep him under observation in hospital.



Maybe they could check out his brain while they’re at it ...


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[Kate!]

Maybe they could check out his brain while they’re at it ...


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:joker:

[arista]

https://i.imgur.com/WIkHhAb.jpg


Yes Covid-19 arrived
from China.

No way can that former President get the blame.

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.imgur.com/WIkHhAb.jpg

:joker:


well we all know whose fault it was...


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[Nicky91]

many staff in white house got the virus now (i wonder if they got the virus from Donald at that one big government dinner)

[Zizu]

many staff in white house got the virus now (i wonder if they got the virus from Donald at that one big government dinner)



Wonder if there’s a photo of the ‘staff somewhere...


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[arista]

many staff in white house got the virus now (i wonder if they got the virus from Donald at that one big government dinner)


No many of his staff had it
Gave it to Trump.

[Ammi]

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[Nicky91]

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yup heard it just now on CNN too

btw latest from them ''newsroom''

https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/1312390117584187397

[bots]

i don't have any confidence that the doctor is giving the full story

he dodged the question about oxygen at least 3 times and he wouldn't specify when trump tested positive

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-live-covid-19-news-updates-12084881


Yes the Doctors are Live.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is doing well

[Liam-]

His doctor revealed he was diagnosed 72 hours ago, on Wednesday, after which he went to multiple events and fundraisers, maskless, knowing he was positive and showing symptoms, the man is a monster and should be held accountable for purposely spreading the virus to anyone that was exposed to him

[bots]

he is doing well

it was obviously done to put everything in the best light regarding his health. What was striking was what the doctor didn't say or dodged. It's standard stuff I guess, because they lied about Boris too ... just doesn't paint a believable picture

[Kate!]

His doctor revealed he was diagnosed 72 hours ago, on Wednesday, after which he went to multiple events and fundraisers, maskless, knowing he was positive and showing symptoms, the man is a monster and should be held accountable for purposely spreading the virus to anyone that was exposed to him

:clap1: charge the bastard with manslaughter. And no thats not too harsh.

[bots]

there was a private press briefing after the press conference where the doctor said his vitals were very concerning ... which do we believe? I know my pick

[AnnieK]

He looked very pale on that Twitter video he put out before going to the hospital. Very much like Boris did. I wouldn't be surprised if he is worse than they are saying but am sure he is getting all possible help and treatment.

[GiRTh]

The fact Trump and the WH are playing it down make me think its quite serious. Cant believe a word he says

[bots]

He looked very pale on that Twitter video he put out before going to the hospital. Very much like Boris did. I wouldn't be surprised if he is worse than they are saying but am sure he is getting all possible help and treatment.

i think he just hadn't had his daily spray tan

[reece(:]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe he has reached his data limit

I think he is on the Vodafone red plan 6 megs of data, unlim minutes and that does not update till the 5th

:worry:

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[bots]

it's ridiculous that we are at the point where we just don't believe a word that's said .... it's intentional misinformation

[Liam-]

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[Mitchell]

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How Trump like...

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's ridiculous that we are at the point where we just don't believe a word that's said .... it's intentional misinformation

its called PR

you're welcome

[Kate!]

its called PR

you're welcome

Its called bull crap.

[Cherie]

Didn't he throw a Maga hat into the crowd covered in his germs :omgno:

[arista]

Didn't he throw a Maga hat into the crowd covered in his germs :omgno:


Yes he did many hats.

But that amount possible Covid
would not be enough to catch it.

[joeysteele]

I agree here with bitontheslide.

All this deceit and contradictory information being fired out.

Now being more proved people really cannot believe just about anything being said.

That's really disgraceful on such a really serious issue, where full trust in the information is essential.

[Tom4784]

He's an utter **** that willingly spread the virus, it's utterly reprehensible.

[Oliver_W]

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Some people's bloodlust is really creepy and off-putting. They need to step away from the internet and have a word with themselves.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/073D/production/_114735810_sunii-oct3.jpg

[JerseyWins]

Hmm hope he recovers

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/EB9A/production/_114741306_thesundaytimes.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/9D7A/production/_114741304_sundaymirror.jpg

[arista]

So 23 now have it
from that rose garden event.

They were all tested and at that time did not have it.

This is the trouble of Covid-19
one day you have a test, you are fine.
But it's just starting.
It is a real nasty virus.


Thats why new 20 mins tests are the future
fast results

[bots]

that's why people should be in quarantine ... something the administration dont seem to understand

[Nicky91]

Biden will be tested more frequently now, his campaigning will resume


also yesterday saw few interviews with Biden-Voters, even one who had voted for republicans in last election, but now he couldn't due to Trump's lackings in handling the coronavirus outbreak crisis


and this morning (also at CNN) i saw something about air force one too, that they are looking into if personnel there are also infected, so they get tested more too out of precaution (since Trump did not wear a mask last time he was on that)

[Vanessa]

Im so happy that he's feeling better.
I think I've had it back in march and I know just how awful it is.
You really feel like you're dying :bawling:

[bots]

given trump needed oxygen on friday, i would be very surprised if he has a smooth ride out of this

[arista]

Im so happy that he's feeling better.
I think I've had it back in march and I know just how awful it is.
You really feel like you're dying :bawling:


Yes but it will get worse in 7 days
and the election is a month away.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

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Posting again
so well written.

[Nicky91]

how is Melania doing?


nothing being said about her health, yet she is first lady of united states

i know trump's health is more important as he's u.s president but would also be nice to give us a update on her health

[arista]

how is Melania doing?


nothing being said about her health, yet she is first lady of united states

i know trump's health is more important as he's u.s president but would also be nice to give us a update on her health

She is doing better than Trump.
And staying in Hospital part of the White House

[Josy]

Stop getting personal in here.

Also a reminder that its against the rules to wish harm or death on anyone.

[arista]

Trumps Doctors
are due to go live in around 10mins
All media

[arista]

Dr. Sean Conley

Is Live Now


They said they think in a day he can go back to Whitehouse?
2 "Temp" drops of Oxygen.
His oxygen level is now at 98%.


https://news.sky.com/story/politics-live-reaction-to-donald-trump-coronavirus-video-from-boris-johnson-and-nigel-farage-12089475


[15:44
Dr Sean Cooley: Trump's vital signs stable.
Not complaining of shortness of breath.
He is walking around.]

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[bots]

he has had 2 oxygen incidents, one yesterday and he is on steroids now which implies heavy inflammation of the lungs

[GiRTh]

Trumps furious at his chief of staff for saying his vitals were concerning . So that must be true then? :shrug:

Trump's chief of staff Mark Meadows reportedly infuriated his boss by telling reporters that his 'vitals are very concerning' (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8802745/Trump-Chief-Staff-Mark-Meadows-hot-water-revealing-truth-presidents-condition.html)

[bots]

trump is dictating what the doctor can talk about ... so people have to look at what is not being said. It's clear there is a problem with his lungs, and he wont be discharged tomorrow under a doctors approval

[MTVN]

I would infer that things were very serious a couple of days ago but that he is showing signs of recovering now. Being hit hard and early by Covid in the first week of having it is quite normal, it's a bit different to Boris who wasn't as ill at the start but just wasn't able to shake it and if the virus still has a strong hold of you after 10 days that's when you're really in trouble like he was

[bots]

I would infer that things were very serious a couple of days ago but that he is showing signs of recovering now. Being hit hard and early by Covid in the first week of having it is quite normal, it's a bit different to Boris who wasn't as ill at the start but just wasn't able to shake it and if the virus still has a strong hold of you after 10 days that's when you're really in trouble like he was

i think the problem is that they are obfuscating the stage that trump is at in the timeline. By any reasonable definition, the supposed point of his infection puts him early in the timeline where he may actually be 10 days in .... we don't know ... and no-one can deny that the doctors are not telling the whole story

[The Slim Reaper]

Glad he's feeling well enough to sign a blank piece of paper. :blush:

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[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/133C0/production/_114748787_inewspaper.jpg

[Ammi]

...I’m still quite suspicious about this...there was no visible sign of illness or fatigue when he spoke and said that he’d now learned all about the COVID, that now he understood first hand and he’d be telling his COVID tale soon...it all felt very PR and very contrived and convenient...I just don’t know with this...and are we going to hear anything about Melania, then...did he mention how his wife was doing with the virus....hmmmmm....


...anyways he’s lying, as always he’s liar, liar, pants on fire...he’s learned nothing at all about COVID and it’s dangers and the care to be taken around others...



Trump's drive-by during COVID-19 treatment was 'insanity', top doctor says...

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-pays-surprise-visit-to-supporters-outside-hospital-12090431


...while so much focus has been placed ‘wishing him death or being fine if he didn’t survive etc...’...effectively, it could absolutely be said that he’s wising death or fine with others dying in his carelessness and even helping it along...


...still...?...he’s learned nothing, nothing at all...

[Kate!]

Yep he's a liar.

[bots]

i don't know what to make of it at all. While a doctor may obfuscate the truth at the patients request, they won't outright lie and the medication he has received is for people at a critical phase in the treatment. For example, the steroids are only prescribed if there is serious organ inflammation because it stops anti bodies producing that would halt the virus.