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Denver
04-10-2020, 11:03 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-yorkshire-welders-jailed-2-22788063.amp

They arrived to do some work and went to teach for dinner but were snitched on by a local and were sent straight to jail for 2 weeks.

I think that's very harsh and unnecessary, the rules were not as clear to them and it was a first offence now i can understand doing it for for repeat rule breakers but to give criminal records straight aways when politians around the UK are getting away scot free doing it is very wrong

arista
04-10-2020, 03:32 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-yorkshire-welders-jailed-2-22788063.amp

They arrived to do some work and went to teach for dinner but were snitched on by a local and were sent straight to jail for 2 weeks.

I think that's very harsh and unnecessary, the rules were not as clear to them and it was a first offence now i can understand doing it for repeat rule breakers but to give criminal records straight aways when politians around the UK are getting away scot free doing it is very wrong

island rules that key workers from
the mainland must stay in their accommodation unless at work.
While the Isle of Man is a Crown dependency and its citizens are British,
it is not in the UK and sets its own laws.]

They were not legal to go into a shop
and were warned that.

bots
04-10-2020, 03:38 PM
it's up to everyone to know the rules in force at the place they are visiting, ignorance is not an excuse

Kate!
04-10-2020, 03:44 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/five-yorkshire-welders-jailed-2-22788063.amp

They arrived to do some work and went to teach for dinner but were snitched on by a local and were sent straight to jail for 2 weeks.

I think that's very harsh and unnecessary, the rules were not as clear to them and it was a first offence now i can understand doing it for for repeat rule breakers but to give criminal records straight aways when politians around the UK are getting away scot free doing it is very wrong

I think to jail them was very harsh.

Denver
04-10-2020, 03:50 PM
it's up to everyone to know the rules in force at the place they are visiting, ignorance is not an excuse

So your saying everyone who breaks the rules in this first time should be jailed? It pointless and money wasting

Kate!
04-10-2020, 03:53 PM
So your saying everyone who breaks the rules in this first time should be jailed? It pointless and money wasting
I agree
Its unfair especially when the likes of politicians and their relatives get away scot free. Sigh.

Denver
04-10-2020, 03:55 PM
Also with it being a British Island it would be easy to think you wouldn't need to quarantine and the people who gave them the work should have told them, its an innocent mistake which a fine would have been the appropriate punishment

Kate!
04-10-2020, 03:56 PM
Also with it being a British Island it would be easy to think you wouldn't need to quarantine and the people who have them the work should have told them, its an innocent mistake which a fine would have been the appropriate punishment

Absolutely. What purpose in jailing them. Really.

MTVN
04-10-2020, 04:08 PM
They are covid free in the Isle of Man - no restrictions, no distancing, no masks etc - and want to stay that way

Liam-
04-10-2020, 04:11 PM
At least they’re isolating now

Crimson Dynamo
04-10-2020, 04:15 PM
No man is an island...

Cherie
04-10-2020, 04:23 PM
The company who hired them should bear some responsibility how were they meant to eat if they had to stay in their accommodation

Cherie
04-10-2020, 04:24 PM
island rules that key workers from
the mainland must stay in their accommodation unless at work.
While the Isle of Man is a Crown dependency and its citizens are British,
it is not in the UK and sets its own laws.]

They were not legal to go into a shop
and were warned that.

Who warned them?

arista
04-10-2020, 04:26 PM
I think to jail them was very harsh.


Its a Great Warning
for that Small Island.


Rules are Rules.

arista
04-10-2020, 04:30 PM
Who warned them?

[The men’s defence advocates told the court
their exemption certificates had been left on the dashboard
of their vehicles and they had not read them properly.]


Follow all orders Cherie
We are Stuck in Covid Times.

Cherie
04-10-2020, 04:31 PM
[The men’s defence advocates told the court
their exemption certificates had been left on the dashboard
of their vehicles and they had not read them properly.]


Follow all orders Cherie

Nobody warned them then

bots
04-10-2020, 04:39 PM
they have strict protocols to keep their covid status as it is. I have no sympathy for people not taking the time to understand what they need to do when visiting a location

Crimson Dynamo
04-10-2020, 04:41 PM
hopefully these welders will stick together?

bots
04-10-2020, 04:42 PM
hopefully it will have lit a torch on isle of man regulations

Denver
04-10-2020, 04:43 PM
I cant at people getting happy at peoples lives being ruined over an innocent mistake that hurt nobody

Liam-
04-10-2020, 04:45 PM
Nobody warned them then

They’re not children, they should be aware of the restriction of the places they go to

Denver
04-10-2020, 04:46 PM
They’re not children, they should be aware of the restriction of the places they go to

So if you popped to your local town next to you and they decided to arrest you and put you in prison you think its acceptable?

MTVN
04-10-2020, 04:48 PM
I cant at people getting happy at peoples lives being ruined over an innocent mistake that hurt nobody

How are their lives ruined?

MTVN
04-10-2020, 04:50 PM
There's a whole load of waffle in that article about how 'politicians have broken the rules' or 'don't know the rules' which is completely irrelevant as the IoM has a totally separate legal and political system to the UK

Liam-
04-10-2020, 04:50 PM
So if you popped to your local town next to you and they decided to arrest you and put you in prison you think its acceptable?

Well no, because I wouldn’t pop into the local town, but if I did, we all have the same restrictions, but people should except to have to follow the guidelines of the places they are going to

arista
04-10-2020, 04:50 PM
How are their lives ruined?


Yes it's a Lesson in Rules
and why you should read them.

Denver
04-10-2020, 04:51 PM
How are their lives ruined?

A criminal record will limit them on what they can do and they will always be seen as a criminal

Denver
04-10-2020, 04:51 PM
like uou can't go to some countries if you have a criminal record

Liam-
04-10-2020, 04:51 PM
If I went to Dubai, I wouldn’t kiss a guy in the street because they have different laws over there, everyone has the responsibility to know the local guidelines and laws, it’s that simple

Crimson Dynamo
04-10-2020, 04:52 PM
How are their lives ruined?

when they went to jail west ham were relagation fodder

when they come out we are a top 4 outfit that noone wants to play



No none can cope with that mind fluuk

Liam-
04-10-2020, 04:52 PM
I highly doubt a record for breaking lockdown procedure is going to affect their future employment prospects come on now

MTVN
04-10-2020, 04:53 PM
A criminal record will limit them on what they can do and they will always be seen as a criminal

'Ruined' is still a bit of an exaggeration, don't expect they'll be affected too much

Denver
04-10-2020, 04:53 PM
There's a whole load of waffle in that article about how 'politicians have broken the rules' or 'don't know the rules' which is completely irrelevant as the IoM has a totally separate legal and political system to the UK

If they want their own rules they should not seek funding from the UK and go alone then let's see how long they last

Denver
04-10-2020, 04:54 PM
I highly doubt a record for breaking lockdown procedure is going to affect their future employment prospects come on now

you only have to disclose a criminal record and not what its for (unless it affects the job)

Crimson Dynamo
04-10-2020, 04:55 PM
the cats of the isle of man have no tails

Nicky91
04-10-2020, 04:56 PM
jail sentence is too harsh for breaking covid rules

should've been a fine