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Drag star Crystal and Simon Blake, deputy chair of the Stonewall charity, both say they are suing actor Laurence Fox....
A RuPaul's Drag Race star and a charity boss have said they are suing actor Laurence Fox for defamation following arguments on Twitter in which he called some of his critics "paedophiles".
Fox has since deleted the tweets, but said he made the comments after being "falsely smeared as a racist" when he criticised Sainsbury's for supporting Black History Month.
Drag star Crystal and Simon Blake, the deputy chair of Stonewall and chief executive of Mental Health First Aid England, have both said they are suing Fox.
In a statement posted on social media, Crystal said: "I will not stand for racism when I see it, and I will not stand for homophobic defamation when it is directed at me.
"An accusation of paedophilia is one of the oldest homophobic tropes, and it was very shocking to have that levelled at me, not just by Mr Fox, but also his many followers who believed him.
"I may have had to endure homophobic bullying as a child, but I will not tolerate it as an adult."
Crystal said the firm Patron Law had been instructed to take the case on.
https://news.sky.com/story/laurence-fox-to-be-sued-by-rupauls-drag-race-star-and-charity-boss-over-paedophile-comments-12098310
...I’m sure that I read as well that he was once banned from releasing a ‘Me Too‘ song that mocked the #metoo movement....
....he’s the full package it would seem...all ‘ists’ present and correct...
Liam-
07-10-2020, 06:26 PM
Hope he loses his house x
arista
07-10-2020, 06:32 PM
Hope he loses his house x
He only said it
as he was called a Racist.
So he can counter sue
Mitchell
07-10-2020, 06:33 PM
He only said it
as he was called a Racist.
So he can counter sue
He was called racist after saying he wouldn’t shop at Sainsbury’s, after Sainsbury’s told racists not to shop there, sooooo...
arista
07-10-2020, 06:34 PM
He was called racist after saying he wouldn’t shop at Sainsbury’s, after Sainsbury’s told racists not to shop there, sooooo...
Its more complex than that
...it’s not complex for Laurence Fox, he does tend to simply racism as not really existing much in his world...
arista
07-10-2020, 06:41 PM
...it’s not complex for Laurence Fox, he does tend to simply racism as not really existing much in his world...
Rubbish
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Jack_
07-10-2020, 06:44 PM
Hope they take him to the cleaners
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1156839466176327680/MWzFdCNC_400x400.jpg
Denver
07-10-2020, 06:44 PM
Rubbish
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Yes the obligatory i took a pic with a black man so I'm not racist defence
Mitchell
07-10-2020, 06:45 PM
Rubbish
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Social distancing please Laurence
If they sue, and are successful, everyone and their mother will be suing for defamation of character after receiving insults on twitter. I don't see this going anywhere for that very reason alone tbh.
....hmmmmm, but if that was flipped around...surely it would leave open for anyone to be able to hate and abuse on Twitter etc...and leave no opening for a lawsuit, which there has to be for libel of any kind...
Liam-
07-10-2020, 06:55 PM
If they sue, and are successful, everyone and their mother will be suing for defamation of character after receiving insults on twitter. I don't see this going anywhere for that very reason alone tbh.
Falsely accusing someone of a crime publicly, is a tad bit different to an insult
....hmmmmm, but if that was flipped around...surely it would leave open for anyone to be able to hate and abuse on Twitter etc...and leave no opening for a lawsuit, which there has to be for libel of any kind...
True, but it's up to twitter to ban any hate speech and/or false accusations. I don't know the guy so im not defending him, im just saying i think it'll be very hard for anyone to sue over something said on social media and be successful.
Falsely accusing someone of a crime publicly, is a tad bit different to an insult
I know, but it's twitter, im sure that sort of thing happens thousands of times a day. Doesn't make it right, granted. If everyone accused on twitter of a crime they didn't commit sued, our legal system would collapse! And the backlog of cases would run into years and years. It's just not feasible imo.
it's not up to twitter because the law is different in many different countries. People have been arrested for writing on twitter in the past, but obviously it depends on the content posted
True, but it's up to twitter to ban any hate speech and/or false accusations. I don't know the guy so im not defending him, im just saying i think it'll be very hard for anyone to sue over something said on social media and be successful.
...as Liam said though, it’s a false accusation...so effectively libel...which is not a ‘typical’ social media, type hateful/phobic abuse...it would really send out an awful message imo, if it isn’t something that’s addressed immediately because of the amount of abuse and hate on social media...which as it seems, is already escalating into libellous comments...
Liam-
07-10-2020, 07:06 PM
I know, but it's twitter, im sure that sort of thing happens thousands of times a day. Doesn't make it right, granted. If everyone accused on twitter of a crime they didn't commit sued, our legal system would collapse! And the backlog of cases would run into years and years. It's just not feasible imo.
Defamation cases are civil suits, it’s got nothing to do with the police or the usual legal systems
...as Liam said though, it’s a false accusation...so effectively libel...which is not a ‘typical’ social media, type hateful/phobic abuse...it would really send out an awful message imo, if it isn’t something that’s addressed immediately because of the amount of abuse and hate on social media...which as it seems, is already escalating into libellous comments...
Is there a case of something similar happening, ie suing someone for libel comments made on twitter (im generally interested, not being funny)?
Like i said in my previous post, i just can't see how it'll be feasible.
...again, I wonder if it was flipped and it was Laurence who was inferred as a paedophile...
Defamation cases are civil suits, it’s got nothing to do with the police or the usual legal systems
Good luck to them then. I still don't think they'll be successful.
Liam-
07-10-2020, 07:11 PM
Is there a case of something similar happening, ie suing someone for libel comments made on twitter (im generally interested, not being funny)?
Like i said in my previous post, i just can't see how it'll be feasible.
Katie Hopkins was bankrupted in a defamation suit for falsely accusing someone of a crime
Is there a case of something similar happening, ie suing someone for libel comments made on twitter (im generally interested, not being funny)?
Like i said in my previous post, i just can't see how it'll be feasible.
Recent events have made it clear that a false and defamatory statement posted on Twitter or in a blog is not immune from legal action. If a tweet or blog post is defamatory, untrue and cannot be defended, the maker of the statement can be liable for defamation and for substantial damages.
https://www.taylorwessing.com/download/article_libel_myths_social_media.html
...there are lots more articles, Swan ...but that one was the top of the page when I googled...
...I mean, it just make sense to me that Twitter can’t give ‘immunity’ to lawsuit...
Katie Hopkins was bankrupted in a defamation suit for falsely accusing someone of a crime
Good.
On twitter?
Liam-
07-10-2020, 07:14 PM
Good luck to them then. I still don't think they'll be successful.
Well, the accusations are there everyone to see, he did it and he has no defence for it
Katie Hopkins was bankrupted in a defamation suit for falsely accusing someone of a crime
..yeah, I do think that Laurence Fox is playing a dangerous game atm...it can be played for a while in ‘feeding off prejudice’ but it’s not a game that gives any wins in the end, as it hasn’t for Katie...it’s a very ‘short game’, I think and it may make him unemployable or much less employable etc...
Liam-
07-10-2020, 07:15 PM
Good.
On twitter?
It was on a public forum on the internet yes, I think it was Twitter, but whether it was or not is slightly irrelevant in these cases
Tom4784
07-10-2020, 07:16 PM
Good, I hope they take everything that failed actor has.
Libel is libel, if you call someone a peadophile as a random retort and that post is likely to be seen by a lot of people then it can cause damage by people who will take it at face value and anyone who follows that twat probably is gullible enough to believe everything he says.
Calling two well known LGBT activists peadophiles with no reason or rhyme to it is pure homophobia. There's no downplaying this as some spat on Social Media.
Recent events have made it clear that a false and defamatory statement posted on Twitter or in a blog is not immune from legal action. If a tweet or blog post is defamatory, untrue and cannot be defended, the maker of the statement can be liable for defamation and for substantial damages.
https://www.taylorwessing.com/download/article_libel_myths_social_media.html
...there are lots more articles, Swan ...but that one was the top of the page when I googled...
...I mean, it just make sense to me that Twitter can’t give ‘immunity’ to lawsuit...
I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.
I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.
all it needs is a couple of high profile successful cases before people understand that they are not free to write anything they feel like without consequence
Shaun
07-10-2020, 07:20 PM
I think there's a pretty distinct line between being called a racist and a paedophile. One is a crime and the other is not; implying someone is a paedophile is literally accusing them of crimes they have not committed. There was a recent case with Justin Bieber I think, where he sued two women who made up allegations (on Twitter) that he had raped them, and I believe that was successful. Being called a racist is unpleasant (if you aren't one, anyway, so that doesn't apply here) but it isn't false witness.
I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.
...it was only two tweets that more or less cost Kate Hopkins her hues and bankrupted her...but yeah I mean, social media’s like Twitter or huge for abuse and now libel it would seem is the way it’s going...so if the system isn’t able to cope...?..then it would have to be expanded to enable it to cope because things like this can’t be not acted on...
Tom4784
07-10-2020, 07:21 PM
I'll read that in a second. Im not saying it should give immunity, im saying the sheer number of insults/false accusations posted on twitter everyday will make it hard for anyone to be successful when suing. It'll will have a knock on effect that no system, civil, legal or otherwise will be able to cope with.
You're being quite gross here with your downplaying. This wasn't some trading of insults, Crystal isn't suing because that flop called her a dickhead. She's suing because he accused her and another prominent LGBT voice of being peadophiles based on nothing but their sexuality. That's not an insult, that's an accusation and a both a grave and false one at that.
The system isn't going to collapse because a flop actor will be made to face the consequences of his actions.
all it needs is a couple of high profile successful cases before people understand that they are not free to write anything they feel like without consequence
...yeah, and I think that, that’s the one ‘good’ that Katie Hopkins has done...it took a while for her...but I think now..?...lawsuits will be auctioned more quickly if applicable...
You're being quite gross here with your downplaying. This wasn't some trading of insults, Crystal isn't suing because that flop called her a dickhead. She's suing because he accused her and another prominent LGBT voice of being peadophiles based on nothing but their sexuality. That's not an insult, that's an accusation and a both a grave and false one at that.
The system isn't going to collapse because a flop actor will be made to face the consequences of his actions.
I've said 'false accusations' twice now, did you miss that part?
Also, you are literally missing my whole point here, as usual.
Liam-
07-10-2020, 07:25 PM
Let’s not forget Cliff Richard suing the dicks off of the British media and police for what happened to him
Oliver_W
07-10-2020, 07:29 PM
What did his tweets actually say? Was it something like "a load of paedos are moaning at me" or did he directly call those two people paedos?
Mitchell
07-10-2020, 07:31 PM
What did his tweets actually say? Was it something like "a load of paedos are moaning at me" or did he directly call those two people paedos?
He quoted their tweets and directly called them paedophiles.
Liam-
07-10-2020, 07:31 PM
What did his tweets actually say? Was it something like "a load of paedos are moaning at me" or did he directly call those two people paedos?
Directly
Oliver_W
07-10-2020, 07:32 PM
He quoted their tweets and directly called them paedophiles.
oops, then yeah, sue him.
Tom4784
07-10-2020, 07:34 PM
I've said 'false accusations' twice now, did you miss that part?
Also, you are literally missing my whole point here, as usual.
Your point is quite basic, it's not difficult to grasp.
It doesn't matter that you mentioned false accusations out of obligation because you've downplayed these accusations of insults by being all like 'But if everyone sues each other over insults, the system will collapse1!!11!'
Falsely accusing someone of a crime is punishable by civil law and has been for decades, the system hasn't crashed and burned yet because most people don't go around accusing people of being peadophiles, and it won't crash and burn if Crystal gets her justice. It's all just hysteria on your part in an attempt to talk down what is a valid case.
Braden
07-10-2020, 07:37 PM
It really was such a stupid retaliation on his part.
Your point is quite basic, it's not difficult to grasp.
It doesn't matter that you mentioned false accusations out of obligation because you've downplayed these accusations of insults by being all like 'But if everyone sues each other over insults, the system will collapse1!!11!'
Falsely accusing someone of a crime is punishable by civil law and has been for decades, the system hasn't crashed and burned yet because most people don't go around accusing people of being peadophiles, and it won't crash and burn if Crystal gets her justice. It's all just hysteria on your part in an attempt to talk down what is a valid case.
It's a lot more complex than that, as i've stated.
1. He's wrong - Yes
2. He should get sued - Yes
3. They should win - Yes
Im just stating it won't be that easy, considering twitter is a cesspool for 'false accusations' every day.
But you're arguing something i agree with you on, so don't see the point in continuing debating because it'll go nowhere.
There's a bigger picture here, just because i choose to look at this from every angle doesn't mean im downplaying anything.
Oliver_W
07-10-2020, 07:47 PM
It's a lot more complex than that, as i've stated.
1. He's wrong - Yes
2. He should get sued - Yes
3. They should win - Yes
Im just stating it won't be that easy, considering twitter is a cesspool for 'false accusations' every day.
But you're arguing something i agree with you on, so don't see the point in continuing debating because it'll go nowhere.
There's a bigger picture here, just because i choose to look at this from every angle doesn't mean im downplaying anything.
Gays are a protected group, so the false accusation will probably have more weight though.
Crimson Dynamo
07-10-2020, 08:19 PM
Another day another extreme left abomination, like trump must die
UserSince2005
07-10-2020, 09:36 PM
They should just **** and make up. Laurence is defo a bottom.
DouglasS
07-10-2020, 09:38 PM
Good, I hope they take everything that failed actor has.
Libel is libel, if you call someone a peadophile as a random retort and that post is likely to be seen by a lot of people then it can cause damage by people who will take it at face value and anyone who follows that twat probably is gullible enough to believe everything he says.
Calling two well known LGBT activists peadophiles with no reason or rhyme to it is pure homophobia. There's no downplaying this as some spat on Social Media.
I mean he’s not a failed actor? He was acting for multiple decades in a popular Tv show as a main character, as well as in one or two Hollywood movies.
Just don’t see why because he is racist his past successes are now regarded as failures
I also think suing people over tweets and insults is extremely childish and exactly the ‘woke’ culture he is talking about. Normal people just brush it off and know it’s someone clutching at straws when they’re insulting them.
Everyone has been insulted or called something malicilously or as a joke before. ActualMy suing someone is pretty pathetic and a waste of other peoples time imo
DouglasS
07-10-2020, 09:41 PM
Your point is quite basic, it's not difficult to grasp.
It doesn't matter that you mentioned false accusations out of obligation because you've downplayed these accusations of insults by being all like 'But if everyone sues each other over insults, the system will collapse1!!11!'
Falsely accusing someone of a crime is punishable by civil law and has been for decades, the system hasn't crashed and burned yet because most people don't go around accusing people of being peadophiles, and it won't crash and burn if Crystal gets her justice. It's all just hysteria on your part in an attempt to talk down what is a valid case.
This crystal just seems butt hurt and a massive attention seeker tbh
Swan is clearly saying that probably hundreds of people a day on Twitter are accused of things or called a paedo when they are not as an insult. All these hundreds of people just ignore it and block it, or laugh it off...
Since when has the nation Been filled with baby snowflakes that cry at any insult (even if it is defamation) and go to the law/civil case
Oliver_W
07-10-2020, 10:24 PM
This crystal just seems butt hurt and a massive attention seeker tbh
He got called a paedo, that's piss most people off. And of course he's an attention seeker, he's a drag queen lol
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 12:31 PM
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user104658
17-11-2020, 12:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em99YVZW4AMGkcP?format=jpg&name=medium
https://media1.tenor.com/images/79d7220880c38c47f84451e75c01cee9/tenor.gif?itemid=11907187
To be fair to this dumb arsehole; I do (and always will) fully agree that informed consent is a non-negotiable in any aspect of healthcare, including vaccination.
...however I call BS on needing 4, I'm pretty sure two could hold him still enough :umm2:
Liam-
17-11-2020, 12:38 PM
He’s a twat, I just wish people would stop giving him the attention he craves, if people stopped reacting to him, he’s get bored and move on to release even more **** music in the shadows
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 12:42 PM
To be fair to this dumb arsehole; I do (and always will) fully agree that informed consent is a non-negotiable in any aspect of healthcare, including vaccination.
...however I call BS on needing 4, I'm pretty sure two could hold him still enough :umm2:
I don't think the gestapo will be turning up at anyone's door and locking them into a dentist chair whilst pumping them full of vaccines, but I fully expect some kind of passport to accompany vaccine users to allow them access to the more traditional societal pastimes. Laurence will be able to refuse, and he'll be completely free to enjoy his own company in his living room.
Niamh.
17-11-2020, 12:43 PM
Well he's gone full Katie it seems
UserSince2005
17-11-2020, 12:44 PM
he's so ****ing hot
proof of vaccination will be like a passport by this time next year. Want a job? better be vaccinated ... want to go to the pub? better be vaccinated .... football anyone? Travelling abroad? All will require evidence of vaccination.
So yeah, he is welcome to continue his resistance for as long as he likes
Crimson Dynamo
17-11-2020, 01:00 PM
maybe he is afraid of needles?
Cherie
17-11-2020, 01:02 PM
We will see if he is still saying that if he can't leave the country
Crimson Dynamo
17-11-2020, 01:03 PM
We will see if he is still saying that if he can't leave the country
i take it he is happy with using a passport if he does?
Cherie
17-11-2020, 01:10 PM
i take it he is happy with using a passport if he does?
depends how the country he is heading to views his unvaccinated status I guess, at the very least he will need to be covid tested before he gets on the plane
Crimson Dynamo
17-11-2020, 01:11 PM
depends how the country he is heading to views his unvaccinated status I guess, at the very least he will need to be covid tested before he gets on the plane
hopefully we dont let a single person into the UK who has not had the vaccine
user104658
17-11-2020, 01:12 PM
proof of vaccination will be like a passport by this time next year. Want a job? better be vaccinated ... want to go to the pub? better be vaccinated .... football anyone? Travelling abroad? All will require evidence of vaccination.
So yeah, he is welcome to continue his resistance for as long as he likes
Full vaccine rollout by this time next year even for all those who are lining up for it is EXTREMELY ambitious is the unfortunate truth ... by winter 2022, maybe.
Cherie
17-11-2020, 01:37 PM
hopefully we dont let a single person into the UK who has not had the vaccine
:fc:
arista
17-11-2020, 01:40 PM
He’s a twat, I just wish people would stop giving him the attention he craves, if people stopped reacting to him, he’s get bored and move on to release even more **** music in the shadows
He would be Great Live on GMBHD itv.
Nicky91
17-11-2020, 01:49 PM
hopefully we dont let a single person into the UK who has not had the vaccine
RIP tourism income then :skull:
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 02:05 PM
He would be Great Live on GMBHD itv.
Doing what?
user104658
17-11-2020, 02:12 PM
RIP tourism income then :skull:
Tourism is ****ed for the next decade or longer. The only real hope for the industry is that the problem is the same everywhere - so hopefully the lack of international tourism can partly be countered by more local tourism (Scottish people heading down to Cornwall for some sun, Londoners heading up to Scotland for the scenery, etc.)
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 02:17 PM
We should all fly over to Eindhoven and 70's football hooligan the place up a bit. :smug:
user104658
17-11-2020, 02:21 PM
We should all fly over to Eindhoven and 70's football hooligan the place up a bit. :smug:
We could all stay at Nicky's!
arista
17-11-2020, 02:21 PM
Doing what?
Putting his views
on this Case and his Political Stance
ideal guest
Tom4784
17-11-2020, 02:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em99YVZW4AMGkcP?format=jpg&name=medium
https://media1.tenor.com/images/79d7220880c38c47f84451e75c01cee9/tenor.gif?itemid=11907187
Seabiscuit over there would be blown over by a slight breeze. Who's he fooling?
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 02:37 PM
We could all stay at Nicky's!
The internet is switched off at 6pm. Nee, dank u wel
Mystic Mock
17-11-2020, 02:38 PM
If they sue, and are successful, everyone and their mother will be suing for defamation of character after receiving insults on twitter. I don't see this going anywhere for that very reason alone tbh.
He accused them of being Paedophiles.
He should be in a lot of trouble imo.
arista
17-11-2020, 02:39 PM
He accused them of being Paedophiles.
He should be in a lot of trouble imo.
But they called him a Racist.
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 02:44 PM
Putting his views
on this Case and his Political Stance
ideal guest
We already know it. He has nothing to offer on pretty much anything, other than how to write songs like a 14yr old grade 7 music student.
arista
17-11-2020, 02:48 PM
We already know it. He has nothing to offer on pretty much anything, other than how to write songs like a 14yr old grade 7 music student.
No as
he has a New Political group.
He did OK on the Live on Ch5HD AM show
Mystic Mock
17-11-2020, 02:51 PM
This crystal just seems butt hurt and a massive attention seeker tbh
Swan is clearly saying that probably hundreds of people a day on Twitter are accused of things or called a paedo when they are not as an insult. All these hundreds of people just ignore it and block it, or laugh it off...
Since when has the nation Been filled with baby snowflakes that cry at any insult (even if it is defamation) and go to the law/civil case
Being called a Paedophile doesn't make her a snowflake imo.
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 02:55 PM
No as
he has a New Political group.
He did OK on the Live on Ch5HD AM show
And his political group is exactly the same as his twitter feed.
Tom4784
17-11-2020, 02:57 PM
But they called him a Racist.
Calling someone a racist doesn't justify falsely accusing someone else of molesting children.
This is kind of basic stuff here, people.
Parmy
17-11-2020, 02:58 PM
He’s a twat, I just wish people would stop giving him the attention he craves, if people stopped reacting to him, he’s get bored and move on to release even more **** music in the shadows
It's all these attention seeking drag queenies giving him it..
Pour them all in a pot if **** and hurl it down the river.
Parmy
17-11-2020, 02:59 PM
Calling someone a racist doesn't justify falsely accusing someone else of molesting children.
This is kind of basic stuff here, people.
Yes it does
Mystic Mock
17-11-2020, 03:04 PM
But they called him a Racist.
It's not the same as falsely being accused of sexually molesting kids.
The Slim Reaper
17-11-2020, 03:04 PM
You ok, Parm?
Tom4784
17-11-2020, 03:33 PM
Yes it does
Wrong, again.
You can believe someone is a racist, but you can't falsely accuse them of a crime, especially something like peadophillia. This is basic morality, basic law and ethics.
A homophobic mind that equates homosexuality to paedophilia might think it's acceptable but people with a sense of decency will tell you otherwise.
Parmy
17-11-2020, 03:43 PM
Wrong, again.
You can believe someone is a racist, but you can't falsely accuse them of a crime, especially something like peadophillia. This is basic morality, basic law and ethics.
A homophobic mind that equates homosexuality to paedophilia might think it's acceptable but people with a sense of decency will tell you otherwise.
What about calling someone a racist, like what happened here before he retorted with the paedophile accusation.
Parmy
17-11-2020, 03:44 PM
And is a paedophile who only thinks about it, committing a crime?
Crimson Dynamo
17-11-2020, 03:45 PM
Calling someone a racist doesn't justify falsely accusing someone else of molesting children.
This is kind of basic stuff here, people.
I am sure that you called Donald Trump a paedo many times on this forum and he has to this day not been convicted of any offence of that manor
basic stuff indeed
Tom4784
18-11-2020, 04:04 AM
What about calling someone a racist, like what happened here before he retorted with the paedophile accusation.
It's not something you can argue against. Saying 'I think you're a racist because of the opinions you've shared' is not the same as 'I'm going to brand you a peadophile because I don't like you.'
The former is an opinion, the latter is libel/slander. Spend less time defending homophobes that make a habit of branding people peadophiles because of their sexuality.
Tom4784
18-11-2020, 04:09 AM
I am sure that you called Donald Trump a paedo many times on this forum and he has to this day not been convicted of any offence of that manor
basic stuff indeed
Except that Donald Trump has a long list of accusations against him, some of which were from underage victims, that and the fact he was a friend of Epstein too.... Of course, you know this already and are choosing to ignore this to try to score points but as always, your points get rubbished because choosing to ignore evidence you dislike doesn't make it go away. Basic stuff indeed.
GoldHeart
18-11-2020, 07:33 AM
I am sure that you called Donald Trump a paedo many times on this forum and he has to this day not been convicted of any offence of that manor
basic stuff indeed
Continue to defend Trump all you like , but he was thick as thieves with Epstein just like Prince Andrew was . They were definitely involved in it.
He also has a list of accusations by victims in general as Dezzy mentioned . Plus we've heard how he talks about about women, the sheer disrespect.
Plus he more or less said he'd date his own daughter if he could , he's a weirdo ! .
...I just had to recap on this story for the context...when Laurence Fox encouraged a boycott of Sainsbury’s on Twitter, because of their support for Black History Month...there were apparently many responses suggestive of a racist mindset in his words...but Crystal was the only one who had ‘pedophile’ levelled at her from him...that’s surely the definition of prejudice when what he said was only levelled at Crystal amongst other comments of his racist mindset...
user104658
18-11-2020, 09:12 AM
...I just had to recap on this story for the context...when Laurence Fox encouraged a boycott of Sainsbury’s on Twitter, because of their support for Black History Month...there were apparently many responses suggestive of a racist mindset in his words...but Crystal was the only one who had ‘pedophile’ levelled at her from him...that’s surely the definition of prejudice when what he said was only levelled at Crystal amongst other comments of his racist mindset...
I agree - a LOT of people have been calling him racist, and he chose to call a gay man who is famous for being a drag queen a paedophile, not the countless others. I think people are quick to overlook the implications there. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, that he doesn't realise the implications (which is unlikely, IMO... he knew fine well) the absolute BEST you could say is that he's staggeringly ignorant.
DouglasS
18-11-2020, 09:24 AM
I am sure that you called Donald Trump a paedo many times on this forum and he has to this day not been convicted of any offence of that manor
basic stuff indeed
:clap1:
Marsh.
18-11-2020, 09:29 AM
It's all these attention seeking drag queenies giving him it..
Pour them all in a pot if **** and hurl it down the river.
Yes it does
What about calling someone a racist, like what happened here before he retorted with the paedophile accusation.
And is a paedophile who only thinks about it, committing a crime?
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arista
18-11-2020, 01:39 PM
he's so ****ing hot
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnHA5IhXEAIXqvx?format=jpg&name=medium
Tom4784
18-11-2020, 02:17 PM
:clap1:
Imagine clapping a post I already shredded.
DouglasS
18-11-2020, 02:42 PM
Imagine clapping a post I already shredded.
Shredded? :hehe:
That must be your own interpretation of your own post.
I just see LT pointing out double standards and a collapse of your justifications earlier in the thread
Tom4784
18-11-2020, 03:26 PM
Shredded? :hehe:
That must be your own interpretation of your own post.
I just see LT pointing out double standards and a collapse of your justifications earlier in the thread
Then, like him, you're choosing to ignore facts just to try and fail to get one over on me which is just really sad. Ignoring a fact doesn't make it go away, delusion doesn't overcome reality.
Donald Trump has a list of sexual assault accusations against him, some of which are from people who were underage at the time. That's a fact that there's accusations. There has been no such accusation for the people this failed actor has branded peadophiles for, just because of their sexuality. Baseless accusations are libel/slander, calling someone a racist in response to them posting racist views is not.
Of course, you're entitled to be wrong, you certainly like to make use of that right. You can make believe all you want, but you can't disregard the facts.
So this hasn't gone anywhere as of yet? Thought so!
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