Nancy Pelosi threatens to remove Trump as president tomorrow using 25th Amendment

[Denver]

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[Liam-]

Constitutional queen

[Tom4784]

It needs to happen but I'm not completely aware of the process around it, does the Senate have to approve of it, because if so, Trump could be smearing his **** on the walls and sticking covid samples into the water supply and the Senate would vote to keep him in.

[Jessica.]

Give him life in prison next please, Miss Nancy.

[Jessica.]

It needs to happen but I'm not completely aware of the process around it, does the Senate have to approve of it, because if so, Trump could be smearing his **** on the walls and sticking covid samples into the water supply and the Senate would vote to keep him in.

It seems a bit vague.

The Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then be President, or, in case of inability, act as President, and such officer shall be or act as President accordingly, until a President shall be elected or, in case of inability, until the inability shall be earlier removed. The commencement and termination of any inability shall be determined by such method as Congress shall by law provide.

[bots]

Nancy can't remove trump, It would require 8 members of the cabinet to first request it, and it would then go to congress for approval - it's not going to happen

[Jessica.]

Nancy can't remove trump, It would require 8 members of the cabinet to first request it, and it would then go to congress for approval - it's not going to happen

Congress can choose another group of people to vote, it doesn't have to be the cabinet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is she ok?

[bots]

Congress can choose another group of people to vote, it doesn't have to be the cabinet.

it includes the senate, and that will never happen

[Denver]

Is she ok?

She is removing him because he is mentally ill so your question is directed at the wrong person

[Crimson Dynamo]

She is removing him because he is mentally ill so your question is directed at the wrong person

Not true of course.

And using people who are mentally ill as your foil is incredibly disrespectful

[Kate!]

he does come across though as having mental health problems.

[Rob!]

It seems a bit vague.


The Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President

Wait, she can kill the President? :unsure:

[Parmy]

he does come across though as having mental health problems.

In what way?

[Rob!]

In what way?

You mean apart from the fact he appears incredibly unstable?

[Parmy]

You mean apart from the fact he appears incredibly unstable?

I mean, in what way....kate.

[Parmy]

Trump like the leaning tower of pizza....

[Kate!]

I mean, in what way....kate.

What Rob said.

He told people to drink or inject with bleach!!

He's come out of hospital too quickly and is hell bent on saying Covid is nothing to worry about??

[Denver]

Trump like the leaning tower of pizza....

Has to much fat and bad for you?

[Parmy]

Has to much fat and bad for you?

No.


Looks unstable but hangs around for 4 more years....and 4 more.

[Mitchell]

I love her mask

[The Slim Reaper]

I mean, in what way....kate.

Ask his son

Donald Trump Jr. reportedly wanted a family 'intervention' to stop Trump's 'crazy behavior' at Walter Reed

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-wanted-a-family-intervention-to-stop-trumps-crazy-behaviour-at-walter-reed/articleshow/78515544.cms

[Parmy]

Ask his son

Donald Trump Jr. reportedly wanted a family 'intervention' to stop Trump's 'crazy behavior' at Walter Reed

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-wanted-a-family-intervention-to-stop-trumps-crazy-behaviour-at-walter-reed/articleshow/78515544.cms



Does he post on tibb?

Is he perhaps insane?

Is the story proven?

Has kate ****ed off?

[The Slim Reaper]

Does he post on tibb?

Is he perhaps insane?

Is the story proven?

Has kate ****ed off?

No idea, you'll have to ask James if we have any Washington IP's

His son is insane?

What do you mean proven? You accept other stories on less evidence.

No idea, I would guess that after the tower of pisa post, she probably thought continuing the discussion was pointless.


Good to see you back, by the way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ask his son

Donald Trump Jr. reportedly wanted a family 'intervention' to stop Trump's 'crazy behavior' at Walter Reed

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-wanted-a-family-intervention-to-stop-trumps-crazy-behaviour-at-walter-reed/articleshow/78515544.cms

Is said to have

According to a report

Nawt tabloid gossip as facts???????

[The Slim Reaper]

Is said to have

According to a report

Nawt tabloid gossip as facts???????

You post daily mail stories, don't you? Nevermind all the Harry and Meghan stories. Top notch comedy LT, keep up the good work :laugh:

Business Insider is as far from a tabloid as you can get :laugh:

[UserSince2005]

Some people don’t understand/cannot accept democracy.

Lock the mad bitch up.

[Swan]

Some people don’t understand/cannot accept democracy.

Lock the mad bitch up.

Doesn't really have anything to do with Trump's so called mental health issues, but i whole heatedly agree with on that. Democracy is fine for some people, as long as you share the same opinions, have the same stance on everything, and only vote the way they think you should. So yeah, the complete opposite of being for and accepting Democracy.

As for Nancy Pelosi outing Trump, we all know it wont happen. Though the way things are going his White House exit is only around the corner.

[The Slim Reaper]

Doesn't really have anything to do with Trump's so called mental health issues, but i whole heatedly agree with on that. Democracy is fine for some people, as long as you share the same opinions, have the same stance on everything, and only vote the way they think you should. So yeah, the complete opposite of being for and accepting Democracy.

As for Nancy Pelosi outing Trump, we all know it wont happen. Though the way things are going his White House exit is only around the corner.

It's not going to happen, but the 25th amendment is specific to the constitution of the US, which means it is absolutely part of their democracy.

[Dogeatdog]

I love her mask

Yh that caught my eye as well. Great of her to promote healthy eating :flutter: :laugh:

[Swan]

It's not going to happen, but the 25th amendment is specific to the constitution of the US, which means it is absolutely part of their democracy.

I didn't question the democracy regarding the 25th amendment, just the questionable democratic beliefs of many people. It's all good and well saying you're for (not you, in general) democracy, but then throwing a fit when things don't go the way you think they should isn't how democracy works.

[Parmy]

No idea, you'll have to ask James if we have any Washington IP's

His son is insane?

What do you mean proven? You accept other stories on less evidence.

No idea, I would guess that after the tower of pisa post, she probably thought continuing the discussion was pointless.


Good to see you back, by the way.



Its pizza..ok.:fist:

[Marsh.]

I didn't question the democracy regarding the 25th amendment, just the questionable democratic beliefs of many people. It's all good and well saying you're for (not you, in general) democracy, but then throwing a fit when things don't go the way you think they should isn't how democracy works.

Speaking up (and being allowed to) when you don't feel things are working/going the right way IS democracy.

[Tom4784]

I didn't question the democracy regarding the 25th amendment, just the questionable democratic beliefs of many people. It's all good and well saying you're for (not you, in general) democracy, but then throwing a fit when things don't go the way you think they should isn't how democracy works.

People are allowed to voice dissatisfaction with the government/elections in a free country. It's called an opinion and we're all entitled to them.

[reece(:]

Trump has lost the plot, his erratic twitter ramblings have reached new lows - get him out.

[Ammi]

...for me, I wouldn’t just feel that ‘Democracy’ was the person who was elected to serve in the voice/interest/ power of the people etc..but that they are being those things through their time of office and service...?...to democratically elect a president and then to ‘stick with them, no matter what‘ even if it’s felt that their leadership was detrimental to their country, but they’re president so that’s that of that...surely wouldn’t be democratic because ‘interest and power of the people and the country‘ must surely be a huge factor in putting the Democratic into a country election system and it is the only priority...

...I do though, completely understand Swan’s thought process..(..or as I understand what he means, anyway..)...if it’s being said that ‘the people’ elect...(...although we all know it was Putin...:laugh:..)...then other officials, also serving the people can’t un-elect, otherwise it doesn’t serve democracy...?...which also has truth, I guess if other things/factors and reasons are isolated... if a leader was perceived to be ‘unfit’...then there wouldn’t be any practicality of feasibility of a ‘public voting’ to remove that leader immediately if that was felt to be something that had to happen right now, type thing...It is an interesting thing that he’s posed, though ...because to remove a leader from office, if that’s what Nancy is suggesting...?..wouldn’t that also be kind of considered a ‘coup ’.....

[bots]

i think with Biden ahead in the polls it's a very risky move if Nancy goes ahead with it

[Ammi]

...do you mean that it could be the very thing to cause him to be re-elected, bots...?..I’m too sleepy for my head to work probably atm...

[Nicky91]

Some people don’t understand/cannot accept democracy.

Lock the mad bitch up.

Nancy has valid points to remove Trump as president, first of all he's kinda got very insane thinking getting covid is a blessing of god

secondly also he ain't recovered from the virus, so not well to remain as president (he should still be in hospital) basically him underestimating dangers of this horrible virus again, being a terrible example for overall american public, something what is dangerous for America in general

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314410306584694784

:facepalm: LOL you cannot just do that Trump, no president can do such thing

[bots]

...do you mean that it could be the very thing to cause him to be re-elected, bots...?..I’m too sleepy for my head to work probably atm...

Biden is doing well in the polls, she is potentially interfering and could shift undecided voters toward trump ... it's a very risky thing messing with the dynamics at this point when your own side is doing well

[joeysteele]

I don't know about him having a mental illness.

What he is, which is a bad thing in any leader in my view, is he is dangerously deluded.

I'm not sure this intervention from Nancy Pelosi will just not lead to feed his delusions and help him fuel his, they're all out to get him with fake news and fear tactics.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You post daily mail stories, don't you? Nevermind all the Harry and Meghan stories. Top notch comedy LT, keep up the good work :laugh:

Business Insider is as far from a tabloid as you can get :laugh:

Its not Biz Insider its from Vanity Fair :umm2: and the story is based on "sources"

ie any fool could have rung them and claimed this

[Crimson Dynamo]

we need to cancel democracy too, no more rights for trump supporters

if you do not trust the ''evidence'' and only trust your biased ''evidence''

because the story ain't from far right breitbart

So you are advocating a system like Erdoğan, Vladimir Putin and Hungary’s Viktor Orbán have established but run by the Democrats?

Its a bold election move for sure

[Nicky91]

but politics is doomed for a very long time now


gonna just enjoy it all for the laughs and entertainment, trump's moronic ways come across towards me


luckily i do not live in america

[user104658]

throwing a fit when things don't go the way you think they should isn't how democracy works.



Speaking up (and being allowed to) when you don't feel things are working/going the right way IS democracy.

I was just going to say when I read that... That is EXACTLY how democracy works :joker:

[Swan]

I was just going to say when I read that... That is EXACTLY how democracy works :joker:

Like Ammi said, it's one thing to say 1/2 years into a 4 year term 'okay this isn't working out, things are worse' then voicing your opinion. It's another however to just straight up refuse to accept a democratic voting process where the person who won the most votes wins (here anyway, i know the US isn't as simple as that). Democracy works both ways, we are free to vote for whoever we like, and not vote for who we don't. The December elections, Brexit, people voted, the most votes won, democracy right there. Yet people who voted in another direction refuse to accept, right or wrong, that's the opposite of democracy.

[Swan]

People are allowed to voice dissatisfaction with the government/elections in a free country. It's called an opinion and we're all entitled to them.

I'll remember that when you call me wrong for having an opinion that differs from yours.

Causing havoc and disrupting innocent lives just because an election/vote didn't go the way you think it should is another thing entirely though.

[Denver]

Like Ammi said, it's one thing to say 1/2 years into a 4 year term 'okay this isn't working out, things are worse' then voicing your opinion. It's another however to just straight up refuse to accept a democratic voting process where the person who won the most votes wins (here anyway, i know the US isn't as simple as that). Democracy works both ways, we are free to vote for whoever we like, and not vote for who we don't. The December elections, Brexit, people voted, the most votes won, democracy right there. Yet people who voted in another direction refuse to accept, right or wrong, that's the opposite of democracy.

His incompetence and selfishness has led to almost a quarter of a million Americans dying in less then 6 months now thats a perfect reason if you ask me

[Swan]

His incompetence and selfishness has led to almost a quarter of a million Americans dying in less then 6 months now thats a perfect reason if you ask me

He handled it poorly, he still is. But to blame him for every single covid death is ridiculous. You look to a leader to lead, of course, but we see it every day, people not taking precautions, gathering with other people, not wearing masks, going on holidays. You can put blame on Trump, Johnson and any other leader out there, but at the end of day a lot of the covid deaths could probably have been avoided. Sometimes common sense wins!

[Denver]

He handled it poorly, he still is. But to blame him for every single covid death is ridiculous. You look to a leader to lead, of course, but we see it every day, people not taking precautions, gathering with other people, not wearing masks, going on holidays. You can put blame on Trump, Johnson and any other leader out there, but at the end of day a lot of the covid deaths could probably have been avoided. Sometimes common sense wins!

You can blame them as they make the rules, if you say they dont have to wear a mask why would they? Trump refused a full on lockdown when he should have done one and went to rallies where no asks were worn and to top if off he used his racism behind it to label in the chinese flu or kung flu or anything else he every used

[Swan]

You can blame them as they make the rules, if you say they dont have to wear a mask why would they? Trump refused a full on lockdown when he should have done one and went to rallies where no asks were worn and to top if off he used his racism behind it to label in the chinese flu or kung flu or anything else he every used

Since when did even half the people even listen to Trump though? Knowing the risks, if you have access to a TV/Internet it's plain to see, if Trump says 'wear a mask, don't wear a mask' would you have listened to him? Of course not! You would have made your own conscious decision using your own common sense. I don't care for Trump, but he's either 'your' president or he isn't. You can't refuse to accept him, protest against him, then when cry foul when you allow him to 'lead you'. It was handled badly, but my god have people been careless, sometimes we need to take responsibility for ourselves.

As for him calling it 'chinese flu' i mean, it's reaching a bit to call him racist for that. It did originate in China after all. China's appalling attitude towards animals and those 'wet markets' should be highlighted (not saying he's highlighting that, his attitude towards sharks disgusts me).

[Nicky91]

Since when did even half the people even listen to Trump though? Knowing the risks, if you have access to a TV/Internet it's plain to see, if Trump says 'wear a mask, don't wear a mask' would you have listened to him? Of course not! You would have made your own conscious decision using your own common sense. I don't care for Trump, but he's either 'your' president or he isn't. You can't refuse to accept him, protest against him, then when cry foul when you allow him to 'lead you'. It was handled badly, but my god have people been careless, sometimes we need to take responsibility for ourselves.

As for him calling it 'chinese flu' i mean, it's reaching a bit to call him racist for that. It did originate in China after all. China's appalling attitude towards animals and those 'wet markets' should be highlighted (not saying he's highlighting that, his attitude towards sharks disgusts me).

it first came from China, but the main epicentre of the virus for Europe is Northern Italy

americans i don't know, either of travelling to china, or chinese travelling to the US i think, or from americans who went to european countries with risk zones

[Tom4784]

I'll remember that when you call me wrong for having an opinion that differs from yours.

Causing havoc and disrupting innocent lives just because an election/vote didn't go the way you think it should is another thing entirely though.

By all means do, and then I'll gladly tear that to shreds by pointing out to you (again) that opinions are not free from criticism and criticising an opinion is not the same as saying it's wrong or invalid. Everyone has a right to an opinion and everyone else has the right to criticise an opinion.

If you think I've ever denied your right to an opinion or outright called it wrong (only if you're factually wrong) then you aren't understanding what I'm writing at all. Spend more time trying to understand what I write than trying to slander me with your constant misunderstandings.

[Tom4784]

Like Ammi said, it's one thing to say 1/2 years into a 4 year term 'okay this isn't working out, things are worse' then voicing your opinion. It's another however to just straight up refuse to accept a democratic voting process where the person who won the most votes wins (here anyway, i know the US isn't as simple as that). Democracy works both ways, we are free to vote for whoever we like, and not vote for who we don't. The December elections, Brexit, people voted, the most votes won, democracy right there. Yet people who voted in another direction refuse to accept, right or wrong, that's the opposite of democracy.

Firstly, Donald Trump actually lost the popular vote by three million votes, I believe, it was down to different states have different ratios of voting impact that basically gave him the win.

Who is refusing the democratic process? You simply don't understand that people can be unhappy with the way a vote goes, hell, Trump himself (and Brexiters back in 2016's referendum actually) denounced the vote as crooked when the odds were against him. The act of voicing that disapproval is not going against the spirit of democracy, it's simply voicing an opinion and the acts of impeachment and such are just branches of democracy.

You simply don't understand what democracy is.

[Swan]

By all means do, and then I'll gladly tear that to shreds by pointing out to you (again) that opinions are not free from criticism and criticising an opinion is not the same as saying it's wrong or invalid. Everyone has a right to an opinion and everyone else has the right to criticise an opinion.

If you think I've ever denied your right to an opinion or outright called it wrong (only if you're factually wrong) then you aren't understanding what I'm writing at all. Spend more time trying to understand what I write than trying to slander me with your constant misunderstandings.

That's fine, i'll gladly tear that to shreds too (again) by pointing out the exact same.

If only you'd do the same!

[Tom4784]

That's fine, i'll gladly tear that to shreds too (again) by pointing out the exact same.

If only you'd do the same!

incorrectly repeating what I said without the correct context is not a good response. it's just a 'I know what you are, but what am I?' response that's best left on the playground.

[Swan]

Firstly, Donald Trump actually lost the popular vote by three million votes, I believe, it was down to different states have different ratios of voting impact that basically gave him the win.

Who is refusing the democratic process? You simply don't understand that people can be unhappy with the way a vote goes, hell, Trump himself (and Brexiters back in 2016's referendum actually) denounced the vote as crooked when the odds were against him. The act of voicing that disapproval is not going against the spirit of democracy, it's simply voicing an opinion and the acts of impeachment and such are just branches of democracy.

You simply don't understand what democracy is.

here anyway, i know the us isn't that simple

Being unhappy is one thing, outright refusing to accept it is another. Do you respect that more people voted conservative in December, hence they won, so protesting in the streets against it wasn't at all democratic?

I understand perfectly what democracy is.

[Swan]

incorrectly repeating what I said without the correct context is not a good response. it's just a 'I know what you are, but what am I?' response that's best left on the playground.

Your ego in thinking you 'tear me to shreds' required a petty, ridiculous response quite honestly. I shouldn't sink to your level though, granted.

[Tom4784]

Being unhappy is one thing, outright refusing to accept it is another. Do you respect that more people voted conservative in December, hence they won, so protesting in the streets against it wasn't at all democratic?

I understand perfectly what democracy is.

Except you don't because you confuse people not being happy with how a vote turns out with them wanting to actively overturn it.

Protesting is always democratic, it's a right of ours to do so. There is no way that a protest can't be undemocratic, since it's a branch of democracy in itself, as people letting their voices be heard is never a bad thing. You may (and are free) to disagree with what they are saying, but protests, in their very essence are democratic procedures, and the protests in December weren't to actually overturn the vote but to voice displeasure at it, which is perfectly acceptable in a country with democracy and free speech.

You continue to prove why you don't understand what democracy entails, you're arguing against the voicing of opposing opinions, that's undemocratic as ****.

[Tom4784]

Your ego in thinking you 'tear me to shreds' required a petty, ridiculous response quite honestly. I shouldn't sink to your level though, granted.

Nah, you'll just parrot what I said without a shred of self awareness (or context).

I put what I said into context, I explained what an opinion entails and why you making out what I think opinions are wrong is just not true, and is a complete misunderstanding on your part. You, in response, chose to be childish.

[Nicky91]

Being unhappy is one thing, outright refusing to accept it is another. Do you respect that more people voted conservative in December, hence they won, so protesting in the streets against it wasn't at all democratic?

I understand perfectly what democracy is.

i still do not accept it that US has Trump as a president, which is almost on similar scale if a Paris Hilton became a president

or Richard Branson became the new UK prime minister

if democracy in america means you need to trollvote based upon whom entertains you the most, to get elected president, well then this is a true democracy one huge mess, but then again america is indeed one huge mess in general, so maybe this is normal for them

[Swan]

Except you don't because you confuse people not being happy with how a vote turns out with them wanting to actively overturn it.

Protesting is always democratic, it's a right of ours to do so. There is no way that a protest can't be undemocratic, since it's a branch of democracy in itself, as people letting their voices be heard is never a bad thing. You may (and are free) to disagree with what they are saying, but protests, in their very essence are democratic procedures, and the protests in December weren't to actually overturn the vote but to voice displeasure at it, which is perfectly acceptable in a country with democracy and free speech.

You continue to prove why you don't understand what democracy entails, you're arguing against the voicing of opposing opinions, that's undemocratic as ****.

Protesting peacefully is democratic, causing unrest, violence, and refusing to accept a vote is not. Throwing a tantrum because things didn't go your way - a dignified voice against the outcome = Two different things!

Aren't you glad we live in such a country :hee:

Nah, you'll just parrot what I said without a shred of self awareness (or context).

I put what I said into context, I explained what an opinion entails and why you making out what I think opinions are wrong is just not true, and is a complete misunderstanding on your part. You, in response, chose to be childish.

The irony.

[The Slim Reaper]

Democracy doesn't stop after people have voted, so Trumps quid pro quo is anti-democratic, paying off porn stars to hide the info from pornstars is anti-democratic, refusing to hand over peacefully is authoritarian nevermind anti-democratic.

Voters and citizens have a right and a duty to hold leaders to democratic standards, or those standards will disappear.

[Swan]

i still do not accept it that US has Trump as a president, which is almost on similar scale if a Paris Hilton became a president

or Richard Branson became the new UK prime minister

if democracy in america means you need to trollvote based upon whom entertains you the most, to get elected president, well then this is a true democracy one huge mess, but then again america is indeed one huge mess in general, so maybe this is normal for them

I have no idea what you're saying there really Nicky?!

What even is a 'trollvote' :shrug:

[Tom4784]

Protesting peacefully is democratic, causing unrest, violence, and refusing to accept a vote is not. Throwing a tantrum because things didn't go your way - a dignified voice against the outcome = Two different things!

Aren't you glad we live in such a country :hee:



The irony.

Protesting is democratic no matter what, as Slim said, democracy doesn't end with a vote. it's an ongoing process and protests are part of that. regardless of the outcome.

Also, please learn what irony is because, when you do, you'll find your own posts to be full of irony, given that you claim that discourse is undemocratic while spewing undemocratic nonsense made to discredit and degrade valid forms of democracy.

I said it before and I'll say it again, you do not have a good understanding of what democracy is and you keep proving it time and time again.