View Full Version : Angela rayner calls tory mp scum in the commons.
Parmy
21-10-2020, 06:12 PM
https://youtu.be/0XPOO3Hn5zE
That's a bit rude.:nono:
This country's belief that the worst thing a politician can do is be uncivil is utterly bizarre
Parmy
21-10-2020, 06:29 PM
This country's belief that the worst thing a politician can do is be uncivil is utterly bizarre
You try shouting that at people at your workplace, see how long you last.
Liam-
21-10-2020, 06:30 PM
We stan
You try shouting that at people at your workplace, see how long you last.
I wouldn't vote for laws that kill people at my workplace either, but I know which of the two you're outraged about!
Parmy
21-10-2020, 06:35 PM
I wouldn't vote for laws that kill people at my workplace either, but I know which of the two you're outraged about!
Sitting yawning at my phone is hardly a sign of outrage..:joker:
I couldnt give a monkey's, never heard of anyone in the video in my life...I just find it interesting how they can get away with stuff at work that we cant.
arista
21-10-2020, 06:55 PM
Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner
has now said sorry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-54633531
https://news.sky.com/story/conservative-mp-accuses-labour-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-of-calling-him-scum-12110290
Parmy
21-10-2020, 06:59 PM
Labour’s deputy leader Angela Rayner
has now said sorry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-54633531
https://news.sky.com/story/conservative-mp-accuses-labour-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-of-calling-him-scum-12110290
I dont see that In the links.
Black Dagger
21-10-2020, 06:59 PM
The majority of their party bar 5 have just voted against a policy that would have fed starving children. Is she wrong?
joeysteele
21-10-2020, 07:10 PM
After tonight's vote I think she's made a pretty accurate description.
I'd guess many are calling them far worse than that.
However it's not House of Commons accepted terminology.
So best avoided.
I'm sure she was thinking, and rightly, what she'd like to add to the original comment, as she was giving an apology.
Parmy
21-10-2020, 07:13 PM
After tonight's vote I think she's made a pretty accurate description.
I'd guess many are calling them far worse than that.
However it's not House of Commons accepted terminology.
So best avoided.
I'm sure she was thinking, and rightly, what she'd like to add to the original comment, as she was giving an apology.
She wasnt calling them...she was calling him...but that's acceptable because hes a tory...can you even remember his name or did you just lump him in with all torys?
Black Dagger
21-10-2020, 07:18 PM
She wasnt calling them...she was calling him...but that's acceptable because hes a tory...can you even remember his name or did you just lump him in with all torys?
He just voted to starve children x
Kate!
21-10-2020, 07:19 PM
She wasnt calling them...she was calling him...but that's acceptable because hes a tory...can you even remember his name or did you just lump him in with all torys?
His name is Chris Clarkson and she is right with what she said.
joeysteele
21-10-2020, 07:23 PM
She wasnt calling them...she was calling him...but that's acceptable because hes a tory...can you even remember his name or did you just lump him in with all torys?
Clarkson is his name, yes I know his name.
Yeah, pretty much, I'd lump him in with every other Con who voted against children's meals tonight.
Frankly scum is one of the better descriptions of him and them too.
Yeah, I'm guilty as charged by you, and proud to be too.
Parmy
21-10-2020, 07:26 PM
Maybe she was eluding to his homosexuality?
Kate!
21-10-2020, 07:38 PM
Maybe she was eluding to his homosexuality?
Eh?
arista
21-10-2020, 07:39 PM
I dont see that In the links.
No ,they showed it on Ch4HDnews
at the ending.
Parmy
21-10-2020, 07:39 PM
Eh?
It might have been...he is homosexual..and she just blurted out scum at him:shrug:
A coin has 2 sides
Parmy
21-10-2020, 07:39 PM
No ,they showed it on Ch4HDnews
at the ending.
Ok..thanks.
Black Dagger
21-10-2020, 07:39 PM
It might have been...he is homosexual..and she just blurted out scum at him:shrug:
A coin has 2 sides
**** me. The desperation.
Parmy
21-10-2020, 07:40 PM
It must have been because of his homosexuality then cause nobody would ever apologise for calling a tory scum.:shrug:
Kizzy
21-10-2020, 07:57 PM
Always have been and always will be lower than rats imo.
Parmy
21-10-2020, 08:06 PM
He just voted to starve children x
Was it after the vote?
Cause that changes things a bit.
Parmy
21-10-2020, 08:09 PM
**** me. The desperation.
Devil and angel on your shoulder arguing when you meet
someone out on a Saturday night :shrug:
Scarlett.
21-10-2020, 08:18 PM
Tory Scum are Tory Scum
Tom4784
21-10-2020, 08:30 PM
Did she lie?
Parmy
21-10-2020, 09:54 PM
Did she lie?
So what should happen to scum then?
LaLaLand
21-10-2020, 09:57 PM
The majority of their party bar 5 have just voted against a policy that would have fed starving children. Is she wrong?
Amen.
arista
21-10-2020, 10:49 PM
Angela Rayner apologises after 'scum' remark in Commons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54638267
Glenn.
22-10-2020, 02:09 AM
It must have been because of his homosexuality then cause nobody would ever apologise for calling a tory scum.:shrug:
Because that’s the thing you go to when someone is called scum? Not the fact he voted against feeding children. You think she called him scum because he’s gay?
Glenn.
22-10-2020, 02:10 AM
Do you know what don’t even bother responding. I’m not interested in your opinion on it.
Parmy
22-10-2020, 09:04 AM
Do you know what don’t even bother responding. I’m not interested in your opinion on it.
Didnt you see the thread starters name before reading what they had to say?
Cherie
22-10-2020, 09:40 AM
Be careful what you wish for, this is creeping in more and more into society and we are becoming desentistised when it does not directly involve us , imagine a colleague at work turning around and calling you scum..let that sit for a while, pretty sure you wouldn't be going :love: Queen! and if it happened on the forum people would be reaching for the report button for sure
Kazanne
22-10-2020, 09:48 AM
Maybe he voted against it as it will come out of tax payers money, maybe the public should be asked if they want to do that, Ide be happy to ,but would everybody ? everything is not as black and white as the media like to portray.
Parmy
22-10-2020, 09:53 AM
Maybe he voted against it as it will come out of tax payers money, maybe the public should be asked if they want to do that, Ide be happy to ,but would everybody ? everything is not as black and white as the media like to portray.
Good point there kaz..I'm like you I wouldn't mind paying a little extra cash to pay for this, but not everyone can afford that little extra and it's not the fairest thing to do..
Liam-
22-10-2020, 09:54 AM
Would have been funnier if she called him a twat
Liam-
22-10-2020, 09:58 AM
Maybe he voted against it as it will come out of tax payers money, maybe the public should be asked if they want to do that, Ide be happy to ,but would everybody ? everything is not as black and white as the media like to portray.
They don’t mind squandering our money on useless propaganda, or handing out hundreds of millions to give adults a half price lunch out to help the economy, why would they bother worrying if we want to feed hungry kids? That logic is completely nonsensical., we’ve never gotten a say in what happens with our tax money before, to think they’ve suddenly developed a curiosity for public demand is frankly, ludicrous
Cherie
22-10-2020, 10:02 AM
Would have been funnier if she called him a twat
would you be happy to be abused in your place of work?
she should be fined but that won't happen
Kazanne
22-10-2020, 10:04 AM
They don’t mind squandering our money on useless propaganda, or handing out hundreds of millions to give adults a half price lunch out to help the economy, why would they bother worrying if we want to feed hungry kids? That logic is completely nonsensical., we’ve never gotten a say in what happens with our tax money before, to think they’ve suddenly developed a curiosity for public demand is frankly, ludicrous
in YOUR opinion,not mine.
Liam-
22-10-2020, 10:05 AM
would you be happy to be abused in your place of work?
she should be fined but that won't happen
If I’d done something to warrant being called a twat, I’d take it on the chin like a grown up
Cherie
22-10-2020, 10:07 AM
If I’d done something to warrant being called a twat, I’d take it on the chin like a grown up
he wasn't called a twat, he was called scum, so you would be happy with this label, good to know
Liam-
22-10-2020, 10:09 AM
he wasn't called a twat, he was called scum, so you would be happy with this label, good to know
You responded to me saying it would be funny if she called him a twat
Cherie
22-10-2020, 10:10 AM
You responded to me saying it would be funny if she called him a twat
I asked you about being abused in your workplace which is what happened to him, what you think would be funny is irrelevant
The Slim Reaper
22-10-2020, 10:30 AM
Maybe he voted against it as it will come out of tax payers money, maybe the public should be asked if they want to do that, Ide be happy to ,but would everybody ? everything is not as black and white as the media like to portray.
It is pretty black and white though. The public are never asked asked these things, so why would we be now? Trying to find an excuse for them on this seems a bit beneath you if I'm honest, especially as a parent.
Liam-
22-10-2020, 10:43 AM
I asked you about being abused in your workplace which is what happened to him, what you think would be funny is irrelevant
She shouldn’t have called him it there and then, she shouldn’t have lowered herself to their level and she’s apologised, it was impolite, but she perfectly captured a large chunk of the countries feelings on this scenario and it was pretty funny
Tom4784
22-10-2020, 10:45 AM
So what should happen to scum then?
They should be acknowledged as such, Angela shouldn't have apologised. Anyone who votes against feeding children is scum, do you not agree?
Tom4784
22-10-2020, 10:46 AM
Would the same people be outraged about this if it was a Tory calling Labour scum? Just wondering.
Cherie
22-10-2020, 10:46 AM
She shouldn’t have called him it there and then, she shouldn’t have lowered herself to their level and she’s apologised, it was impolite, but she perfectly captured a large chunk of the countries feelings on this scenario and it was pretty funny
we have to hope like the Dominic Cummings effect people don't take it on themselves to abuse others in their workplace because they don't agree with them and then point out that an apology will suffice
we could test it out on TiBB maybe see if Niamh is run off her feet :D:
Parmy
22-10-2020, 11:15 AM
They should be acknowledged as such, Angela shouldn't have apologised. Anyone who votes against feeding children is scum, do you not agree?
No..I wouldn't class them as scum..common criminals like George floyd etc are scum...not mps voting on matters they know more about than us.
Kazanne
22-10-2020, 11:19 AM
No..I wouldn't class them as scum..common criminals like George floyd etc are scum...not mps voting on matters they know more about than us.
:clap1::clap1:
Liam-
22-10-2020, 11:22 AM
Just had to get the comment about George Floyd in, so transparent lmao
joeysteele
22-10-2020, 11:30 AM
Would the same people be outraged about this if it was a Tory calling Labour scum? Just wondering.
No, not all of them, in my view.
Not at all.
Good point.
Cherie
22-10-2020, 11:36 AM
I would say exactly the same if a Tory minister did that in the House to a Labour colleague so don't try to pull that false equivalence, incredible that some members here know other members minds
Mystic Meg what!
Parmy
22-10-2020, 11:56 AM
Just had to get the comment about George Floyd in, so transparent lmao
Wouldn't you class him as scum?
Kizzy
22-10-2020, 01:34 PM
Wouldn't you class him as scum?
No... a person is not scum. The things they choose to do are scummy, as you say commit certain crimes OR deny underprivileged children food. Both acts can be described as scum.
Tom4784
22-10-2020, 01:41 PM
I would say exactly the same if a Tory minister did that in the House to a Labour colleague so don't try to pull that false equivalence, incredible that some members here know other members minds
Mystic Meg what!
I love it when you try and fail to use my words against me, as ever, the context is important. You can't just bleat my words back to me if you don't understand context or what they even mean.
False equivalence would be if if you were to compare two different things in order to make one side look worse or better, what I did is simply reverse the situation to question the bias of people who are slating this MP. False equivalence can't be applied when it's the exact same situation but with the sides flipped.
I hope you found this educational, Cherie :love:
I don't need to be Mystic Meg when people are so transparent, I have eyes.
Tom4784
22-10-2020, 01:42 PM
Wouldn't you class him as scum?
So you consider the victim of a racially charged murder scum? Interesting.
Glenn.
22-10-2020, 01:50 PM
Colour me shocked
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