Hero Marcus Rashford obtains Gov U Turn on free school meals.

[Kate!]

Marcus is currently campaigning for free school meals to be all year round despite vehement Gov opposition.

Is he your hero? Will he prevail?

He is mine and I think he will prevail and the Gov will be forced to concede this. I certainly hope so.

[joeysteele]

He's certainly right and speaks from personal experience of his own and actually getting out there and seeing the need this is.

This PM is absolutely disgraceful he only wants backside crawlers and yes people around him.

He'll avoid taking to anyone who doesn't think all he's doing is wonderful.
He won't meet the bereaved families of the pandemic.
He'll avoid meeting Rashford.

He just scurries away if the topic gets awkward..even at the previous press conferences,he prevented the scientific experts answering awkward questions.

He's a disgrace.

The fact they haven't altered this policy and taken it on to extend over school holidays.
Is scandalous.
He warrants the bad headlines and I hope more of Con backbenchers will rebel if Labour and the other Parties bring a new vote back on this.

He's making a fuss over a small gesture just to extend the free meals scheme for all year, instead of just term times.
It's petty, wrong and heartless.

Then you'll get those, trying to defend him and this lot on this.
Absolutely unbelievable.

[arista]

He does need to talk to the PM

[Kizzy]

Didn't someone fib and say they had today, Hancock I think?

[Kate!]

Didn't someone fib and say they had today, Hancock I think?

probably yes Kizzy. Hancock is known as Pinocchio in our house the lies he tells. X

[UserSince2005]

Maybe this whinge bag come dip into his own pockets?

[bots]

Rashford is fast becoming an annoying tit

[arista]

He is a Professional Football player
stay away from the Political Fights

[UserSince2005]

Maybe this whinge bag come dip into his own pockets?

Why should us middle class have to pay when hes the one with all the money?

[Kate!]

Rashford is fast becoming an annoying tit

:conf: why?? For caring?

[Kizzy]

Rashford is fast becoming an annoying tit

Why because he gives a toss? What an odd thing to say. What about his freedom of speech?

I'm not sure about the pride of Britain award however, there are many who campaign as hard as he does but without the reach he has. That said we are proud ..well most of us are :/

Shame you don't think that when the likes of farage spout on for years dividing the country with his comments and suggestions. One 22yr old black footballer makes one suggestin to government and it's shattapp, you're so annoying! Pffffft!

[joeysteele]

Didn't someone fib and say they had today, Hancock I think?

Hapless Hancock was being his usual either misinformed, useless or deliberately deceiving self.

They haven't communicated since June.

[The Slim Reaper]

Rashford is fast becoming an annoying tit

What makes you think that?

[Tom4784]

Imagine calling a guy campaigning against children going hungry a tit, the tory leapt out.

Marcus Rashford is fighting a noble cause and this government is proving that the legacy of milk snatcher Thatcher is alive and well. The Tory government have enough money to give themselves ridiculous budgets for meals, they have enough money to give millions in fluff contracts to Tory backers yet they are refusing to help those in need and the Tory supporters are doing what they do best, looking down at those 'below' them and blaming them for problems caused by those 'above'.

[arista]

Politics is not for a Professional Footballer
to get in the way of.

[Tom4784]

Politics is not for a Professional Footballer
to get in the way of.

Politics is for anyone and everyone, stop with the gatekeeping bull****. Everyone should take an interest in politics and it's only those that wish to repress viewpoints they dislike that try to gatekeep who can or cannot engage in politics.

[The Slim Reaper]

Politics is not for a Professional Footballer
to get in the way of.

Reality tv hosts are fine though. :hehe:

[Kizzy]

Politics is not for a Professional Footballer
to get in the way of.

Why not? Tell that to Tommy Robinson and Katie hopkins and all the other professional gob****es!

[arista]

Why not? Tell that to Tommy Robinson and Katie hopkins and all the other professional gob****es!


He failed
got Police Trouble and Courts
went to Spain.


Hopkins no longer on TV shows.
she failed as well.

[Kazanne]

He's not a 'hero' to me ,no.

[Tom4784]

He's not a 'hero' to me ,no.

Why? Do you hate the idea of kids getting fed?

[arista]

They will be fed
by Local Councils.

[arista]

Politics is for anyone and everyone, stop with the gatekeeping bull****. Everyone should take an interest in politics and it's only those that wish to repress viewpoints they dislike that try to gatekeep who can or cannot engage in politics.


He needs to stick to his Professional Football.
The Prime Minister today was making sure
Hospital Food was getting improved.


The Gates need locking
to keep Rashford out

[Tom4784]

They will be fed
by Local Councils.

Give me details, then.

[Liam-]

I think he’ll succeed in raising the problem to mainstream level and the general public will band together to try and help, but the help that will actually make a proper difference would be from the government and this government wouldn’t know compassion or empathy if it spat on their caviar and slapped their nannies.

[Tom4784]

He needs to stick to his Professional Football.
The Prime Minister today was making sure
Hospital Food was getting improved.


The Gates need locking
to keep Rashford out

Arista, once again, standing against democracy by opposing the right for everyone to be involved in politics. You should try living in a dictatorship, you'd probably love it.

[joeysteele]

Politics is not for a Professional Footballer
to get in the way of.

Politics is life.
What politicians do affects everyone.

Of course anyone has the right to campaign and speak out against wrong and injustice.

Or do you want us to just be obedient robots, doing all and anything a Con government decrees whether right or wrong.

I wish more people like Rashford would speak out and expose the wrong heartlessness of any government that pursued it.

Of course anyone speaking out against this government is likeky to get the real Con supporters jumping in to attack them when and if they do.

We live in a democracy, or used to that is.

[Kazanne]

Why? Do you hate the idea of kids getting fed?

I never said I did !!!, Kate asked a question ,I answered it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Seems like unless you tow the left wing mantra "Rashford good, Government bad" you get vile verbal abuse and "cancelled"

Poor Guy Mowbray was attacked for a perfectly normal comment on tv introing the man u game v chelsea

"'He didn't get a win in Parliament, but he got the winner in Paris. Whether you agree with Marcus Rashford's causes or not, there's surely only admiration for his continued commitment.'"

see the link for the full story


DM top comments: In answer, I disagree with Rashfords causes. I work to feed my own children, not to feed some lazy work Dodgers children!

The parents of the hungry children are responsible for feeding them not Rashford not me and not with my taxes. The uk already spends far far too much on benefits for the lazy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8877461/Guy-Mowbray-DELETES-Twitter-page-hounded-Marcus-Rashford-comments.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/14/34819338-0-image-a-68_1603637735200.jpg

[bots]

i called rashford a tit, and then people tried to justify him by naming hopkins and robinson as examples ... couldn't make it up

[arista]

give me details, then.


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[The Slim Reaper]

i called rashford a tit, and then people tried to justify him by naming hopkins and robinson as examples ... couldn't make it up

And yet you just did. Hopkins and robinson were used against Aristas idea that politics is only for politicians. Rashford doesn't need justifying; he's the one doing the right thing.

[Brother Leon]

When footballers are out of touch they get criticised and when one goes out of their way to fight for a good cause they are called an annoying tit. Shouldn’t be surprised by the Tory base though.

[Kate!]

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Why didn't they just agree to the proposal then. If there's tits around look no further than the Tory Government.

And Rashford IS a hero in so many eyes.

[Kazanne]

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And of course no kids will starve , Oh the dramatics on this,:laugh:but we do know the system will be highly abused as usual

[Kazanne]

Why didn't they just agree to the proposal then. If there's tits around look no further than the Tory Government.

And Rashford IS a hero in so many eyes.

Im sure the government know better than us as terrifying as that sounds, Rashford is not a hero to me, a hero is is someone who puts their life on the line for people or animals , not a footballer with pots of money, his intentions are good ,no denying that but hero no, not imo.

[The Slim Reaper]

And of course no kids will starve , Oh the dramatics on this,:laugh:but we do know the system will be highly abused as usual

Kids have been starving for the last decade Kaz. The tories had to be shamed into feeding them earlier in the year. Are you not able to put yourself in someone else's shoes without thinking feeding kids is an opportunity for their parents to get booze out of it?

[Oliver_W]

To be fair the PM has no obligation to keep in touch with Rashford, especially now the conversation has been taken up by almost everyone.

But Rashford should definitely be recognised for his initial role in it all.

[Kazanne]

Kids have been starving for the last decade Kaz. The tories had to be shamed into feeding them earlier in the year. Are you not able to put yourself in someone else's shoes without thinking feeding kids is an opportunity for their parents to get booze out of it?

Ive been in those shoes Slim,hence I learned to budget and cook,and feed my children quite easily, I am out of that situation now,but times were hard and I remember them,and I do not believe any child should or will starve ,there is so much help out there ,they are given the money , use it to feed your kids first, people need to take some responsibilty aswell.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ive been in those shoes Slim,hence I learned to budget and cook,and feed my children quite easily, I am out of that situation now,but times were hard and I remember them,and I do not believe any child should or will starve ,there is so much help out there ,they are given the money , use it to feed your kids first, people need to take some responsibilty aswell.

quite right Kaz.

id imagine if children are "starving" its due to the feckless nature of their parents more than anything

[Nicky91]

Ive been in those shoes Slim,hence I learned to budget and cook,and feed my children quite easily, I am out of that situation now,but times were hard and I remember them,and I do not believe any child should or will starve ,there is so much help out there ,they are given the money , use it to feed your kids first, people need to take some responsibilty aswell.

spot on Kaz, definitely agree with you

quite selfish parents if they don't think about feeding their children first and place material things second

[The Slim Reaper]

Ive been in those shoes Slim,hence I learned to budget and cook,and feed my children quite easily, I am out of that situation now,but times were hard and I remember them,and I do not believe any child should or will starve ,there is so much help out there ,they are given the money , use it to feed your kids first, people need to take some responsibilty aswell.

If it was easy, then you weren't in that position. Not being comfortable is completely different to being poor.

[Kate!]

I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.

[Kate!]

Its not 'frightening' Joey,kids in Africa are starving,ours will not

But you can't possibly and don't know that Kazanne.

[The Slim Reaper]

Its not 'frightening' Joey,kids in Africa are starving,ours will not

Some hard evidence on UK child poverty statistics.

https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/2020/06/22/fact-checking-claims-about-child-poverty/

[Kazanne]

I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.

Well there are benefits like Universal credits,tax credits gas and electric companies are pretty good with struggling customers and will let them pay by card etc, also very poor people will get full housing benefit,and full council tax exemptions, winter warm allowances, plus there is help with furnishing a house I found it hard but not impossible.we are pretty lucky to live here,in some countries you wouldnt get the same help.

[The Slim Reaper]

Well there are benefits like Universal credits,tax credits gas and electric companies are pretty good with struggling customers and will let them pay by card etc, also very poor people will get full housing benefit,and full council tax exemptions, winter warm allowances, plus there is help with furnishing a house I found it hard but not impossible.we are pretty lucky to live here,in some countries you wouldnt get the same help.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/19/universal-credit-wait-fuels-poverty-and-food-bank-use-says-research

Universal credit wait fuels poverty and food bank use, says research

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well there are benefits like Universal credits,tax credits gas and electric companies are pretty good with struggling customers and will let them pay by card etc, also very poor people will get full housing benefit,and full council tax exemptions, winter warm allowances, plus there is help with furnishing a house I found it hard but not impossible.we are pretty lucky to live here,in some countries you wouldnt get the same help.

its probably one the main reasons so many people from other countries want to come hear tbh

[Kazanne]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/19/universal-credit-wait-fuels-poverty-and-food-bank-use-says-research

Universal credit wait fuels poverty and food bank use, says research

The PM has just said on the news UC has gone up by £20 a week to cover this :shrug: and councils have had extra .

[Kazanne]

its probably one the main reasons so many people from other countries want to come hear tbh

Exactly ,we do ok here really ,its not perfect but a lot better than many other countries trouble is some just want everything handed to them on a plate ,it cant happen ,it has to stop somewhere.

[joeysteele]

Its not 'frightening' Joey,kids in Africa are starving,ours will not

It is frightening actually.
To me anyway..

I think I'll leave you to it though.
Pointless me to respond.

[Kate!]

This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been on the news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespects him in the worst way. Creep.

[joeysteele]

This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been onto news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespect him in the worst way. Creep.

All Johnson can do is deceive and blatantly lie Kate.

Sadly there's those who it doesn't matter what he does, he can do no wrong.
Because it suits their own hard-line agenda.

No empathy whatsoever.

[joeysteele]

Some hard evidence on UK child poverty statistics.

https://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/2020/06/22/fact-checking-claims-about-child-poverty/

They won't likely be believed Slim.

[Kazanne]

This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been on the news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespects him in the worst way. Creep.

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.

[joeysteele]

I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.

Exactly.

That's really stressful and scary.
I've never been there myself but I know those who are in that position.

It's easy to say help is there, getting it is not so easy.
As often when it's claimed you don't get it, or all of it.

Plus claiming takes time.
If you're hungry and needing help now, it's needed now.

Shocking.
Even more surprising is there's people who believe every word this PM says.
When he wouldn't know what's true or decent in any shape or form politically.

He's really been able to be successful in one thing..
He's fed into and opened up most of the opinions of his most hard-line and heartless supporters.
That's for sure

[Kate!]

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.

but as I said earlier you can't know that for a fact. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Pun intended.

[Liam-]

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.

And you know that how exactly? Cause Boris said so?

[Babayaro.]

When footballers are out of touch they get criticised and when one goes out of their way to fight for a good cause they are called an annoying tit. Shouldn’t be surprised by the Tory base though.

Yup, unbelievable.

Footballers in general get such an unfair rep most of the time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yup, unbelievable.

Footballers in general get such an unfair rep most of the time.

really

do you have a couple of examples?


THE FOOTBALLERS WHO HAVE BROKEN LOCKDOWN RULES

https://readfootball.co/2020/06/03/the-footballers-who-have-broken-lockdown-rules/

here are 22 who could not even adhere to basic lockdown guidelines

[Babayaro.]

It's an observation. I'm sure if I could be bothered, I'd find a lot. But I can't, so I won't.

22 footballers? People from all walks of life fail to follow lockdown guidelines every day.

[AnnieK]

Marcus is from one of the most impoverished areas in Manchester....he has experienced and seen real child poverty most likely. Its all very well saying he is rich so should put his hand in his pocket but that's just rubbish. Child poverty needs addressing and eradicating and that needs to be done at Government level. The stats on child poverty are beyond depressing.

[Kizzy]

i called rashford a tit, and then people tried to justify him by naming hopkins and robinson as examples ... couldn't make it up

No I didn't. ..it was suggested that he shouldn't have a say on contemporary political issues because he's only a footballer. That's why I raised other non political figures who regularly comment on and are even invited on shows to discuss politics.

You could make it up because you are making up the intentions of my posts... maybe you'd like to clarify what makes him a tit to remove any confusion?

[Kizzy]

I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.

Ditto Kate, which is now I'm working the thought of my tax helping others makes me really happy!

They should raise taxes and have everyone contribute fairly instead of letting some off paying tax and only those without offshore accounts paying. Then the govt would have no excuse not to fund these things.

[Kate!]

Ditto Kate, which is now I'm working the thought of my tax helping others makes me really happy!

They should raise taxes and have everyone contribute fairly instead of letting some off paying tax and only those without offshore accounts paying. Then the govt would have no excuse not to fund these things.

Good post Kizzy. Xx

[Crimson Dynamo]

Marcus is from one of the most impoverished areas in Manchester....he has experienced and seen real child poverty most likely. Its all very well saying he is rich so should put his hand in his pocket but that's just rubbish. Child poverty needs addressing and eradicating and that needs to be done at Government level. The stats on child poverty are beyond depressing.

Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?

[Kate!]

Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?

No. They aren't all reprobates.

[Withano]

He's not a 'hero' to me ,no.

Because kids don’t deserve food if their parents have televisions? Or have you mustered up something better since I last read your thoughts of why tories are so gr8.

[AnnieK]

Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?

Completely irrelevant. He will still be paying far more tax than some people earn in a year no matter what loopholes his accountant can find. He has still stepped up. Regardless of your football loyalties, surely you can appreciate what he is trying to do? 10 years ago he lived on an impoverished council estate in Wythenshawe.....now he's trying to give something back to not only the community he came from but also the wider community nationally.

[Tom4784]

And of course no kids will starve , Oh the dramatics on this,:laugh:but we do know the system will be highly abused as usual

'The system will be abused' Ah, already trying to paint the vulnerable as being lowlives for needing help. How vile.

[Tom4784]

They won't likely be believed Slim.

Nope, the most vulnerable are to be demonised as lazy layabouts, not people in need. Need to appease our Tory overlords after all and be thankful for their heel on the back of our necks as they convince us to blame the most vulnerable for our problems.

[Tom4784]

Completely irrelevant. He will still be paying far more tax than some people earn in a year no matter what loopholes his accountant can find. He has still stepped up. Regardless of your football loyalties, surely you can appreciate what he is trying to do? 10 years ago he lived on an impoverished council estate in Wythenshawe.....now he's trying to give something back to not only the community he came from but also the wider community nationally.

He doesn't have the right political leaning or skin colour so he should just shut up and be a footballer, apparently.

[joeysteele]

Nope, the most vulnerable are to be demonised as lazy layabouts, not people in need. Need to appease our Tory overlords after all and be thankful for their heel on the back of our necks as they convince us to blame the most vulnerable for our problems.


I find it really worrying people can think so cruelly.
Always judging the poorest as the scrounging scavengers, never content with the scraps thrown to them.

While in reality the truth of what is filtered away by the so called deserving elite, will be glossed over and/ or dismissed.

I find it really sad and worrying there are unfortunately so many who still think that way.
Who'll race in to defend a government that is borrowing and squandering funds left, right and centre.
While also denying a meal scheme to be extended for only the school holiday periods.

What a mess this Country is really in with such cruel and heartless attitudes such as that.

[AnnieK]

I find it really worrying people can think so cruelly.
Always judging the poorest as the scrounging scavengers, never content with the scraps thrown to them.

While in reality the truth of what is filtered away by the so called deserving elite, will be glossed over and/ or dismissed.

I find it really sad and worrying there are unfortunately so many who still think that way.
Who'll race in to defend a government that is borrowing and squandering funds left, right and centre.
While also denying a meal scheme to be extended for only the school holiday periods.

What a mess this Country is really in with such cruel and heartless attitudes such as that.


I actually think this pandemic have shown a lot of people's true colours. On one hand there are the people who believe the government regardless of the hard heartedness and then there are the people who, in Tier 3, are facing financial ruin but are still helping families who are struggling.

Hopefully when all this is over the people will remember those who stopped children going hungry in these times.

[Glenn.]

I worked with a lot of ‘vulnerable’ people/customers, tonnes abuse the system.. loads of peoples houses were just full of drugs and weed. That’s what they were using their universal credits on

Of course some people will abuse it

Yeah ‘some’ people will abuse. I don’t think anyone has said otherwise.

[AnnieK]

For every person who "abuses" the benefits system there is a person who "evades" paying correct taxes though. This stereotypical benefit scrounger **** needs to end when the upper class shift their money off shore to stop paying taxes. They are as much of a drain as the people they demonise for claiming state benefits

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

I actually think this pandemic have shown a lot of people's true colours. On one hand there are the people who believe the government regardless of the hard heartedness and then there are the people who, in Tier 3, are facing financial ruin but are still helping families who are struggling.

Hopefully when all this is over the people will remember those who stopped children going hungry in these times.


I hope so too Annie.
Very much so.

[Ammi]

I actually think this pandemic have shown a lot of people's true colours. On one hand there are the people who believe the government regardless of the hard heartedness and then there are the people who, in Tier 3, are facing financial ruin but are still helping families who are struggling.

Hopefully when all this is over the people will remember those who stopped children going hungry in these times.

...and that’s what it’s about, the children...society is so focused on looking at adults and judging adults and are those adults managing wisely with funding they have...could they do better...if they could do better but don’t manage to do better for whatever reason...?..and there isn’t enough sustenance for their children...we’ll just leave them and step back from them because society can only help people who are filled with wisdom in their money management...while all of this time and with all of these judgements etc...it’s the children who who are being deprived of...it’s the children who are being ‘punished’ because their parents couldn’t make their budgets meet... It’s so very easy to make other people’s budgets meet when they don’t have to be actually lived day after day and month after month and year after year etc...

...so many schools have policies of ...’...a child will not be excluded because of parent inability to pay...’...that’s generally applied to school visits and residential visits and after school activities etc so that children can rightfully all experience the same in their school lives or a part of their school life’s at primary school age...but there is a reluctance to fund a most basic thing like nourishment for a child and yet we’re teaching children that every child matters and that very exact wording and very principle is something that a conservative government has initiated and supported...(...well they haven’t and don’t support, that’s the whole thing...)....as in so many other things and other areas, children are just a slogan to them...a slogan that they can chant as they rest their comfortable heads on their comfortable pillows each night...They did a comfortable days work and applied a slogan with a comfortable sentiment...

...schools and school staff have always and do step up in providing breakfast clubs and school visit experiences through their own school and personal budgets...gaps which have never been addressed by the government because ‘others are doing’, so they were happy to allow others, they’re always happy to allow others...businesses and the public are now stepping up because of Marcus Rashford...because of him alone in his seeing a huge gap area...this will never be addressed while that’s happening also...business and the public will provide ‘while they can and are able to’..but that’s not change, is it../..it can only ever be a thing of the moment...only the government have the power to make changes and to give truth to their slogan and making every child feel as though they matter...

[Ammi]

...one of the things about children is that they don’t make judgements in the same ways...a child would see another child without food or very little food and they would say...’would you like some of this’...they see and feel others so clearly...and they see their hero’s as well, they know who they are...hence so many child drawn pictures of Marcus Rashford under that hero heading...showing that success and luxurious lifestyle doesn’t bring detachment with it...those drawn pictures should be government members but they’re not...

[Josy]

quite right Kaz.



id imagine if children are "starving" its due to the feckless nature of their parents more than anythingThis attitude of kicking people while they are down is actually disgusting tbh, these people are some of the ones in our society that need the most help, benefits dont leave any room for extra costs cropping up and yes that includes affording extra food for when the kids are off school etc then theres people that were living on decent wages that have been pushed into poverty due to losing thier jobs or a massive percent of wages caused by covid.

[Josy]

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.No kids will starve?

Surely you are aware that there are over 4 million kids living in poverty in the UK?

[The Slim Reaper]

For some context.

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The maths has been verified.

[Tom4784]

This attitude of kicking people while they are down is actually disgusting tbh, these people are some of the ones in our society that need the most help, benefits dont leave any room for extra costs cropping up and yes that includes affording extra food for when the kids are off school etc then theres people that were living on decent wages that have been pushed into poverty due to losing thier jobs or a massive percent of wages caused by covid.

When people look down on the vulnerable and kick them, it gives them the false impression that they are those people's betters, that they are closer to the 1% then they are to the gutter and it's all just bull****. Most of us are middle and working class and we're all just a set of bad circumstances away from being in the most vulnerable's shoes.

[Kizzy]

That's right, isn't it said that the majority are only 3 wageslips from homelessness?

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's right, isn't it said that the majority are only 3 wageslips from homelessness?

only if you have no relatives or friends

and that isnt the majority of anyone

[Kate!]

only if you have no relatives or friends

and that isnt the majority of anyone

A lot of people won't ask family or friends though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A lot of people won't ask family or friends though.

why?

[Kate!]

why?

Pride and/or shame.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pride and/or shame.

I dont think you would choose sleeping rough to asking for a bed at your pals house or a relative?

unless in very exceptional circumstances you had no pals and all your relatives don't speak to you

[Kizzy]

I dont think you would choose sleeping rough to asking for a bed at your pals house or a relative?

unless in very exceptional circumstances you had no pals and all your relatives don't speak to you

Supposing you did have some family, what makes you think that they would be in a position to help out financially?
The majority of us are in the same boat and living in our overdraft by payday.. how could we support anyone else?

[bots]

the government is clearly making a point. They provided local councils extra funding, and it's up to those councils to decide and prioritise what gets funded. It is a local responsibility to make sure services are provided for the community, not central government

[Ammi]

...that’s not true, though...the governments have always supplied local funding but school meals or any school related funding has never been drawn from that local budget...school budgets, which would include meals...have always been separate to local authority budgets...

[joeysteele]

...that’s not true, though...the governments have always supplied local funding but school meals or any school related funding has never been drawn from that local budget...school budgets, which would include meals...have always been separate to local authority budgets...

Plus it was only to in part provide the meals in TERM TIME.
This is the whole point.
They haven't really done anything to address the meals NOT in term time.

It's amazing people just automatically believe and accept Johnson and his Ministers spin on things.

Nothing has been done to assist free meals during the odd weeks of school holidays

The government policy is still NOT to provide free meals in school holidays.
Even now.
Something his diehard supporters choose to ignore, while beating a stick over the vulnerable families.
Blaming them for the difficulties they are in, while not even knowing the difficulties they are or could be in either.

That stinks and it's heartless, to me it is anyway.

[The Slim Reaper]

the government is clearly making a point. They provided local councils extra funding, and it's up to those councils to decide and prioritise what gets funded. It is a local responsibility to make sure services are provided for the community, not central government

Local councils have been decimated after a decade of austerity cuts. The extra funding they originally provided, was to be spent by October 12th.

[joeysteele]

Local councils have been decimated after a decade of austerity cuts. The extra funding they originally provided, was to be spent by October 12th.

Exactly and if they hadn't used it, they'd have lost it.
Exactly.

[bots]

yeah, the concept of paying for services in advance of a particular date doesn't exist

[bots]

Local councils have been decimated after a decade of austerity cuts. The extra funding they originally provided, was to be spent by October 12th.

you are just regurgitating political garbage

[The Slim Reaper]

you are just regurgitating political garbage

Like what? Explain it to me bots. I've just given you 2 facts. You're the one throwing out ridiculous statements like "there is another side but tibb is labour". You really want to throw that charge at me? Good luck with that, but please point out the errors.

[joeysteele]

yeah, the concept of paying for services in advance of a particular date doesn't exist

How could the government give any funding in June to Councils to help cover the costs of free meals in school holiday periods.

When the government policy is, and still is, NOT to provide free meals to schoolchildren in school holidays.

Why is the fact, it is this government's policy that school meals should not be provided in school holidays constantly avoided.

They just voted against extending free meal schemes in the school holidays.
Over 300 Con MPs only.

[Ammi]

...how can the government also justify continual Universal Free school meals for all of Key-stage 1 children, which includes well off income families...(...who actually, many have asked not to have these as they’re not needed...)...when this already there funding could be given to the low income family children in providing nutritious meals for 52 weeks of the year...

[Kazanne]

Local councils have been decimated after a decade of austerity cuts. The extra funding they originally provided, was to be spent by October 12th.

Dont know what they have used it for but it certainly isn't the upkeep and repairs of council houses, probably used for their big glossy Christmas calendars that they send every year that end up in the recycling, they must cost thousands, they need to use their money more wisely,that money could have funded childrens meals, even their flyers are send on expensive glossy paper and their campaign leaflets,that is a waste imo.

[Liam-]

you are just regurgitating political garbage

As opposed to you recycling every generic Tory talking point to justify their vote?

[The Slim Reaper]

Dont know what they have used it for but it certainly isn't the upkeep and repairs of council houses, probably used for their big glossy Christmas calendars that they send every year that end up in the recycling, they must cost thousands, they need to use their money more wisely,that money could have funded childrens meals, even their flyers are send on expensive glossy paper and their campaign leaflets,that is a waste imo.

That's it. the funding provided in June was to pay for glossy calendars sent out in December. Or it may have been to support businesses and the locals, one of the two.

Kaz, you're a genuinely caring person. I see your empathy all the time when you create threads about abused animals. I guess I'm just confused why you appear to care more about animals on the other side of the world, than children in your own back yard.

[Kazanne]

That's it. the funding provided in June was to pay for glossy calendars sent out in December. Or it may have been to support businesses and the locals, one of the two.

Kaz, you're a genuinely caring person. I see your empathy all the time when you create threads about abused animals. I guess I'm just confused why you appeaser to care more about animals on the other side of the world, than children in your own back yard.

Slim,I DO care about children, I just get pissed off when a system is abused ,some councils and organisations do NOT use the money given for important things, for example we got the council vans all having a facelift with Wallace and Gromit painted on their sides,and their offices revamped wtf,thats a waste of good money and makes me annoyed that they claim they have no money, of course All hungry kids should be fed, Give them vouchers for the meals ,so others cant use it for other things, Ide be happy with that, as for animals,imo they are voiceless and treated terribly at the hands of humans who are supposed to be top of the chain, There is lots of help out there now for children, and people in general,not much for animals although it's getting better,animals have it so much worse than we do. Plus we will still get the calendars this year,why not use that money for children?

[joeysteele]

...how can the government also justify continual Universal Free school meals for all of Key-stage 1 children, which includes well off income families...(...who actually, many have asked not to have these as they’re not needed...)...when this already there funding could be given to the low income family children in providing nutritious meals for 52 weeks of the year...


Strong point again Ammi.

Some are choosing to miss the point.
Because they won't have a thing said about Johnson and his government that's negative.
That's possibly blatantly obvious.

Labour, Lib Dem and Con councils are doing their best to help fund free meals for children in the holidays.
With No extra help from the government at all really.

Why, because unlike in N.Ireland, Wales and Scotland.
Who are doing so.

This PM and this government, has decreed it's not this government's policy to extend the free meal funding to school holiday periods in ENGLAND.
This government's policy, no one else's.

So they are hardly going to give any real extra aid to something, they voted down saying it shouldn't be done.

Councils of all parties have said this is wrong.

However, for some it seems, defending an indefensible policy from their government, is more important than making sure that children do get those meals.
What a Country England is becoming to be so cruel.

Easier to blame Councils and others, even the parents of needy children.
Than put the blame where it rightly should be.
With the PM and government whose policy is NOT to provide this.
Having just voted it down in parliament too.

Something that is always avoided by this government's hard-line rabid supporters.
Unbelievable.

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim,I DO care about children, I just get pissed off when a system is abused ,some councils and organisations do NOT use the money given for important things, for example we got the council vans all having a facelift with Wallace and Gromit painted on their sides,and their offices revamped wtf,thats a waste of good money and makes me annoyed that they claim they have no money, of course All hungry kids should be fed, Give them vouchers for the meals ,so others cant use it for other things, Ide be happy with that, as for animals,imo they are voiceless and treated terribly at the hands of humans who are supposed to be top of the chain, There is lots of help out there now for children, and people in general,not much for animals although it's getting better,animals have it so much worse than we do. Plus we will still get the calendars this year,why not use that money for children?

Well the vans will more than likely come from their maintenance and repairs budget, which wouldn't be used to feed anyone anyway.

Calendars will come from their marketing or communications budget, and although you or I may not keep them, others will rely on them. I still use a calendar and I daresay you do too, I can just afford to buy one, or most likely I'll get one as a gift at christmas. I work with government/local authority tenders and those calendars will be pennies per unit. I know the cost will add up but it's not a case of cancelling the calendars and suddenly we're a country of abundance. I don't need public transport so why don't councils stop running the service and feed kids? You're looking at things through your situation, not the situation that less fortunate families find themselves in.

You're pointing out little, almost insignificant expenditures to excuse the cruelty of the government.

[The Slim Reaper]

you are just regurgitating political garbage

The receipts

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Elad1y1WkAMPXYq?format=jpg&name=small

[Ammi]

'Struggling' mum-of-five brought to tears after stranger leaves meals for her children on doorstep...

A mother-of-five broke down in tears after a kind-hearted stranger donated bags of food for her children on her doorstep.

Emma Frost, from Blacon, Chester, is currently self-isolating with her family after her partner’s brother tested positive for coronavirus.

She said she was “shocked” when her eldest child found two large bags of shopping and five children's lunch bags sitting outside her front door.

A note had been left with the shopping with the words "a gift from our family to yours".

The act of kindness comes after the government opposed a motion tabled by Labour last week to extend free school meals into half-term, leaving many families struggling.

Frost said: "My eldest went to the door as we were not expecting anyone and found the bags of shopping and five children's lunch bags.

"When she came in, she told me that someone had left the shopping with a note. When I read the note I teared up. I was shocked. It was totally unexpected.”

The note read: "Hi Emma, I'm doing food drops in the community, and someone has put your name forward to receive one. I'm also doing kids packed lunches Mon-Fri.

"If you don't want to receive the kids lunches, just send me a message. Otherwise I'll drop them between 10:30 and 12pm.

"No need to come to the door, I will knock, drop and leave. A gift from our family to yours.”

Thanking the stranger for "brightening her day up”, Frost added: "I would like to say thank you from the bottom of my heart.

“On a day where I was struggling mentally, you brightened it up. It is very much appreciated and it shows there are still some people sharing their humanity around."

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[Niamh.]

'Struggling' mum-of-five brought to tears after stranger leaves meals for her children on doorstep...

A mother-of-five broke down in tears after a kind-hearted stranger donated bags of food for her children on her doorstep.

Emma Frost, from Blacon, Chester, is currently self-isolating with her family after her partner’s brother tested positive for coronavirus.

She said she was “shocked” when her eldest child found two large bags of shopping and five children's lunch bags sitting outside her front door.

A note had been left with the shopping with the words "a gift from our family to yours".

The act of kindness comes after the government opposed a motion tabled by Labour last week to extend free school meals into half-term, leaving many families struggling.

Frost said: "My eldest went to the door as we were not expecting anyone and found the bags of shopping and five children's lunch bags.

"When she came in, she told me that someone had left the shopping with a note. When I read the note I teared up. I was shocked. It was totally unexpected.”

The note read: "Hi Emma, I'm doing food drops in the community, and someone has put your name forward to receive one. I'm also doing kids packed lunches Mon-Fri.

"If you don't want to receive the kids lunches, just send me a message. Otherwise I'll drop them between 10:30 and 12pm.

"No need to come to the door, I will knock, drop and leave. A gift from our family to yours.”

Thanking the stranger for "brightening her day up”, Frost added: "I would like to say thank you from the bottom of my heart.

“On a day where I was struggling mentally, you brightened it up. It is very much appreciated and it shows there are still some people sharing their humanity around."

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/x0BMeV._BHJZlk7BCgPJ0g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTUyNy40NjYxODEwNj EzOTQ0/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-10/d2fdf6e0-18f7-11eb-bfdf-ff602ac46e3f

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awww :love:

[Ammi]

...there are great people but that shouldn’t be relied on by a Government because those great people could find themselves struggling as well...

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/BF35/production/_115094984_metro-nc.png

[Kizzy]

you are just regurgitating political garbage

The whole debate rests on the critique of a political decision to deny funding. Therefore to raise the issue of prior funding is relevant as it provides a basis for your opinion.

What basis does your 'he's a tit' opinion have? What are you regurgitating there besides what appears to be total ignorance, referencing the impact of cuts is not 'political garbage'.

[Tom4784]

you are just regurgitating political garbage

This is a good example of projection. The whole local council line is one regurgitated by Tory drones and it doesn't reflect the reality of things at all.

[AnnieK]

Marcus has been given a City of Manchester award :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Marcus has been given a City of Manchester award :love:

It's the only bit of silverware he will win this season


:hehe:

[Moniqua]

Why? Do you hate the idea of kids getting fed?

sure seems like it :rolleyes:

[Kate!]

Marcus has been given a City of Manchester award :love:

And very well deserved it is too :love:

[Moniqua]

i wonder if a white footballer was pushing for all of this would he be met with the same vitriol on this thread? :think:

food for thought me thinks x

[Dogeatdog]

Marcus has been given a City of Manchester award :love:

Thoroughly deserved too :love:. There’s so many families that are probably struggling right now and a lot of children in desperate need so his contributions to help make their lives just that little bit easier is admiring.

[Kate!]

i wonder if a white footballer was pushing for all of this would he be met with the same vitriol on this thread? :think:

food for thought me thinks x

fair point.

Also in regards to the Gov though I think they would object to it whatever race had proposed it just because they are heartless bastards.

[Ammi]

Marcus has been given a City of Manchester award :love:

...outstanding... ‘and then a hero comes along‘...:lovedup:..

[Kate!]

...outstanding... ‘and then a hero comes along‘...:lovedup:..

aaah love that song Ammi. Bless. Xx

[AnnieK]

...outstanding... ‘and then a hero comes along‘...:lovedup:..

Absolutely Ammi. He is from one of the most impoverished estates in Wythenshawe where lots of families are on the poverty line. He has lived that life, his mum sacrificed a lot for him to be able to follow his dream. Its amazing he is doing something to make long term changes to children's lives rather than throwing a bit of money at it

[joeysteele]

Absolutely Ammi. He is from one of the most impoverished estates in Wythenshawe where lots of families are on the poverty line. He has lived that life, his mum sacrificed a lot for him to be able to follow his dream. Its amazing he is doing something to make long term changes to children's lives rather than throwing a bit of money at it


Well deserved.

I'm pretty sure that probably the thing he'd love to see is some decency from this cruelly heartless government and them making sure children get these meals.

However good to see real caring and decency get some recognition.

Rather than just the thriving of heartlessness which exists with this PM and his stooges.
Sadly supported by some of his like minded voters

[Kate!]

Also Manchester United have already organised and given out meals I believe. I'm sure the players including Marcus will have dipped into their pockets for this. Xx

[Kate!]

Over 1 million people have now signed Marcus Rashfords petition for free school meals to be extended across school holidays. Well done lad. X

[Withano]

Imagine being tricked in to liking tories so hard that you think starving kids is justified. I feel sorry for that 39% of the country.

[Parmy]

Hats off to Marcus..

Only the 2nd man utd player to score a hat trick after coming on as sub..


Can you guess the first?

[Ramsay]

Ole?

[Parmy]

Ole?

Yeah..the silent assassin.:dance:

They almost said first black player on the news..but they didnt.

:joker:

Made me laugh anyway.:wavey:

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/2353/production/_115134090_c3a01983-6912-424e-9716-7df682d10c1f.png

[Kate!]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/2353/production/_115134090_c3a01983-6912-424e-9716-7df682d10c1f.png

Basil and Marcus in number 10. They'd do a much better job than the current bloody muppets.

[arista]

[Footballer Marcus Rashford has welcomed the
government's change of heart over free school meals.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson phoned the
Manchester United star on Saturday afternoon
to tell him that £170m was being set aside to
help feed disadvantaged children over the Christmas holidays.
Rashford said he was "so proud" of those
who had united behind his campaign and that
he was "overwhelmed by the outpouring
of empathy and understanding".]

https://news.sky.com/story/rashford-welcomes-governments-change-of-heart-over-free-school-meals-12127165

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54841316

[AnnieK]

[Footballer Marcus Rashford has welcomed the
government's change of heart over free school meals.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson phoned the
Manchester United star on Saturday afternoon
to tell him that £170m was being set aside to
help feed disadvantaged children over the Christmas holidays.
Rashford said he was "so proud" of those
who had united behind his campaign and that
he was "overwhelmed by the outpouring
of empathy and understanding".]

https://news.sky.com/story/rashford-welcomes-governments-change-of-heart-over-free-school-meals-12127165

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54841316

Fantastic news :love:

[Ammi]

...one man, huge change ...if only world leaders could be such heroes...

...Marcus...:lovedup:..

https://media.giphy.com/media/J4Dc8kMUKpLMYnPN5j/giphy.gif

[joeysteele]

Excellent news and thanks to his persistence and the campaign he has led on this.

Another deceit shown by the government who stated that universal credit was enough to cover the needs of this and that they couldn't do any more.

Now they suddenly can.
Showing it could have all been avoided in the first place.

It's fine and good to u turn on things, however when it's the right decision to do in the first place, they shouldn't be dragged by being shamed to do the right things.

It's like they try to see what can they get away with rather than set up what's right straight off.

Well done to Marcus on this.
He warrants many thanks from those affected by this and who desperately need it too.
Great to see the right thing done eventually by the government, after the unnecessary added stress they brought in refusing to do any more for weeks on end.

[arista]

Across all of England
like the summer
Johnson U Turn.

[Mystic Mock]

Imagine being tricked in to liking tories so hard that you think starving kids is justified. I feel sorry for that 39% of the country.

I agree.

Well done to Marcus Rashford on what his achieved.

[Kate!]

Congrats Marcus. Xx

[Kizzy]

The true spirit of the UK shining through this lovely man. If only we didn't have a government that shrouds us in misery the rest of the time. We like America deserve better.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

Yes well done Asda
now under UK management.

[Nicky91]

BBC1(HD) will show a documentary about this campaign at 19:00 PM tonight