It's Election Day in the States. Who do you think will win realistically?

[Kate!]

Who will win? TRUMP or BIDEN?

POLL coming...

[Amy Jade]

Hope and pray for Biden.

[Denver]

Heart says Biden

Head Say Trump because Americans are very think when it comes to what's best for them (not that Britain is a great model to look on)

[MB.]

Most likely Trump

[Glenn.]

I’d love to say Biden but it’s 2020 so it’s not going to end well

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Think it’ll be trump but obviously don’t want that

[LaLaLand]

Heart - Biden.

Head - Trump.

It's all on the minorities this year imo, hopefully they've used their vote and wisely. It'll be a close one for sure.

[Kizzy]

Due to the uptake in voters this year as shown in some states already I think it will be Biden.
It could be closer than we expect but I'm hopeful Trump will be voted out.

[utopianman]

I think covid will defeat trump this time around, otherwise hed have won
Economically hes been fantastic. The best thing trump has done, his reduce the number of people in povery by 4.2 million a fact totally ignored by the extreme measures of the media and voters. record jobs growth ever and lowest unemployment rate for 50 years at 3.5%. BUT covid was a disaster, not all his fault my wow there were some howlers.

He has also continued to say stupid things either in a brain fart or to grab attention or to encourage certain people to vote him in.

Some of the accusations against him seem inaccurate, the family seperation was a law brought in under obama, the border wall , lets face it every president has had 1000s of miles of borders to protect the american public.
Despite trumps rants and rhetoric , Obama deported more immigrants than ALL other US presidents put together EVER. Let that sink in. He deported 380 to 400,000 a year totalling over 2.5 million people, trump a mere 230,000 a year.

He didnt start any wars, he helped the korean man child to start to dismantle his nuclear plant, is it a bluff who knows? He didnt dismantle obamacare though he did manage to reduce the premiums that business owners simply couldnt afford. The dow jones the highest of all time and he would be a very handy ally for us in a post brexit britain

Hes not hitler, hes not putin, hes not churchill either, hes more in the berlusconi teriroty. Hes certainly warren buffett. Yes hes a narcissistic, braggadocious , flash brash new york business tycoon...Hes not interested in political correctness or political speak at all. But his tenure is not being judged correctly, its being judged by the radical angry mob on both sides
His climate change denail is held against him. But the marches to 100 million electric cars under a 5g network needs to be questioned too. these career politicans have proved too spineless to do so..thats why a gap opened up for trump. Thats why the billionaire playboy gave up his toys , his 580 company empire and his 34000 staff for 4 years....the media never even bothered to ask him this question, they were too busy judging him


i do admire he is willing to debate the toughest topics though, climate change, abortion, foreign policies, trade deals, tariffs on chinese steel, which he was 100% right over. the democrats were too scared to offend the chinese lol The chinese cant hate him that much they did a massive $737 billion deal with china and a 1.4 trillion deal with the canadians...He was spot on with trade deals and tariffs

so overall he did some good things, totally screwed up the pandemic and said a whole load of idiotic things that offended lots of people. Goodness knows why he keeps saying stupid stuff its almost like he wants to make life harder for himself

anyways may the best man win and if its Boden the best fo luck to him and america

[Mitchell]

Really hoping for Biden, but I think it’ll be Trump, and won’t even be close.

[bots]

i think it's Bidens time

[Ammi]

...sadly I think it’ll be the Donald...I would be so happy for that to be wrong, though...

[AnnieK]

I think Biden will win, just. But I think Trump will contest and there will be a very unsettled time woth unrest on the streets etc. It is not going to be pretty and Trump will not leave quietly and with dignity. It will be a scary time to live in the States

[utopianman]

According to the polls Biden is ahead in a lot of places so hes a clear favourite...Trump needs to win nearly all the big swing states.. florida crucially and pennsylvania , ohio, georgia
These Id say are critical for him....Biden has massive leads in his own hotspots and should win the popular vote.
Biden is a poor candidate but hes not hated like hilary and hes got almost every single news network behind him.
I must admit Im dreading a biden win because the whole green push will accelerate out of control and hit millions of working class people. The first thing that will go is the diesel car.

[Nicky91]

i hope for Biden, otherwise it's also poor Dr Fauci being sacked if vile Trump gets to stay

[Zizu]

i hope for Biden, otherwise it's also poor Dr Fauci being sacked if vile Trump gets to stay



It’s worrying that Biden couldn’t remember Donald Trump’s first name the other day ... plus his/their policies are apparently suspect/worrying


It’s another best of two evils situation ..


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[Nicky91]

It’s worrying that Biden couldn’t remember Donald Trump’s first name the other day ... plus his/their policies are apparently suspect/worrying


It’s another best of two evils situation ..


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well sucks to be part of the super rich when Biden wins, yup cause they will lose money due to more taxes

also more lockdown measures, face mask requirement when Biden wins, only a good thing for America, since Trump won't do anything about corona

[joeysteele]

I never read American politics well.
However I fear Trump will.
( Although I hope Biden).

In voting, in the booths, the last second factor of fear of change, can be a powerful force.

How I hope I am totally wrong however and the Democratic wins.
I'll be very happy to be wrong on this saying I think Trump.

[Nicky91]

republicans are already being very arrogant partying lol, and that while their leader is behind in the polls

[bots]

i think if covid hadn't happened Trump would have been re-elected easily, so it's basically down to a referendum on Trumps handling of covid. When peoples lives are actually at risk all other politics tend to fly out the window

[Nicky91]

i think if covid hadn't happened Trump would have been re-elected easily, so it's basically down to a referendum on Trumps handling of covid. When peoples lives are actually at risk all other politics tend to fly out the window

people's lives are most important of all

[UserSince2005]

I'll be so upset if trump doesnt win, he has brought me such joy over the past 4 years.

[Nicky91]

I'll be so upset if trump doesnt win, he has brought me such joy over the past 4 years.

it's not about that, we're talking about the u.s presidency, not some lame reality show competition

[Ammi]

I'll be so upset if trump doesnt win, he has brought me such joy over the past 4 years.

...you lunatic..:laugh:..(...lovely looney, obviously...:love:..)..and you pass that joy onto us, it’s just ever giving in joyness...:laugh:...

[DouglasS]

Trump will win

[Crimson Dynamo]

I genuinely dont know but its a car crash whoever wins i think and there will be unrest and violence.

I do think if the Democrats had put up a sack of pumpkins the pumpkins would have got the same numbers as biden

and probably done better with the media

[Cherie]

Biden I reckon, I think Trump will exit without issue as well, the idea that he will be clinging on to the frame of the door in White House is a bit far fetched I think

[Strictly Jake]

I dont even know anything about Biden I just know I dont like Trump. So I cant even say if I want Biden to win. But I do want Trump to lose. But he wont. This is 2020 and stranger things have happened I really do think he will win again

[Niamh.]

I think Biden might :fc:

[Vanessa]

I think it could go either way.

[Liam-]

Republicans can’t be trusted, so Trump will win

[user104658]

"Realistically" Biden should win by an easy margin in a fair and open system, and would have won in any other normal US election year. So I have voted Biden.

With a caveat - Trump is a documented cheat, has observably been taking action to influence the vote, and aside from that, an election has never been held under anything resembling the current circumstances with Covid and record numbers voting by post.

So the result is wide open and may not be "realistic" at all.

There's also a large possibility of Trump winning the electoral college with the democrats having an absolutely massive margin in the popular vote, due to ridiculous circumstances in the US that sees republican states with 750,000 voters having the same voting power as Dem states with 30+ million :idc:.

I honestly think though that if a president sits in the whitehouse having lost the popular vote by 10+ million votes, which is very possible, that is a HUGE constitutional crisis for the United States. It's not a sustainable system and the country could no longer be considered a functioning democracy without electoral reform.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think it could go either way.

that tends to happen in a two horse race Ness :hehe:

[user104658]

that tends to happen in a two horse race Ness :hehe:

On that note - how ****ing funny would it be if we made Trump and Biden have an actual race? Not for the presidency, just for fun.

Biden would leave Trump in the dust despite being older, but we'd have to be careful about distance or they would probably both die.

[Vanessa]

that tends to happen in a two horse race Ness :hehe:

I mean, I think it's very close. Most polls have them neck at neck.

[Elliot]

Republicans seem to be more bothered about actually voting than democrats are fsr, but even with this in mind Biden will probably win the popular vote, but in us politics that doesn’t mean sh!t. I unfortunately see trump winning

[Swan]

Realistically either could win, but Biden has it in the bag imo.

I know every one loves me talking about the betting odds, but it's pretty telling that almost 60% of the bets placed are for Trump to win, against Biden's just under 30%. Yet the bookies still have Biden as favourite, not clear favourite, but favourite nonetheless.

[Cal.]

I think Trump will win

[Nicky91]

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[Captain.Remy]

I would like Biden to win but I think Trump will take it by a short margin.

[Vanessa]

It's very close. I have no idea who will win.

[Zizu]

well sucks to be part of the super rich when Biden wins, yup cause they will lose money due to more taxes



also more lockdown measures, face mask requirement when Biden wins, only a good thing for America, since Trump won't do anything about corona



True enough... that said there were some economists on the telly speculating that Biden will have a massively detrimental effect on their economy though ..


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[bots]

it won't be a close thing at all is my prediction. Biden is going to win by a landslide

[user104658]

it won't be a close thing at all is my prediction. Biden is going to win by a landslide

All of my understanding of politics says that he SHOULD win by a landslide and yet I don't trust that he will... and really, that says a lot about the effect Trump has had on politics going way beyond his actual presidency. He's made chaos, unpredictability and political trolling business as usual, and any solid belief in a fair system seem like a fairy tale.

[Smithy]

I think/hope Biden will snatch it

[The Slim Reaper]

If Biden doesn't win by a hefty margin then I don't think he gets in, because trump and republicans have stacked the courts. An unprecedented amount of votes will be thrown out/not counted for absolutely no reason.

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1323534663453913093

just pathetic to see how hardcore the love-me-do promotes himself like crazy

:laugh2:

[UserSince2005]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1323534663453913093

just pathetic to see how hardcore the love-me-do promotes himself like crazy

:laugh2:

omg he is sooooo adorable.

And yes he is a young man compared to biden who looks like hes on deaths door. people voting for him are voting for kamelah to be president :skull:

[Nicky91]

omg he is sooooo adorable.

And yes he is a young man compared to biden who looks like hes on deaths door. people voting for him are voting for kamelah to be president :skull:

yes then america has finally a younger president again


so a vote for Biden is clever thinking


Trump isn't young lol, age difference between him and biden is only 4 years

[The Slim Reaper]

Biden I reckon, I think Trump will exit without issue as well, the idea that he will be clinging on to the frame of the door in White House is a bit far fetched I think

I think you give him way too much credit. He has a mass of indictments waiting for him and his family the minute he leaves office. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see him fly somewhere like Russia, and just stay there in a best case scenario.

He's been training his followers that it's impossible for him to lose legally. He definitely has a backup plan in mind.

[Josy]

Biden I think

It's a massive mess whoever wins though

[Nicky91]

Biden I think

It's a massive mess whoever wins though

yes, if trump wins again, there'll be protests from the democrats side

if biden wins, there'll be protests from the republicans side

[Kate!]

If Biden doesn't win by a hefty margin then I don't think he gets in, because trump and republicans have sacked the courts. An unprecedented amount of votes will be thrown out/not counted for absolutely no reason.

Bloody hell thats so unfair.

[utopianman]

I hope trump continues in the job, especially as hes taken 4.2 million people out of poverty and creates all time record jobs. Hes a flawed character but the media bias against him has been an utter disgrace and created the division more than anyone else.

[UserSince2005]

yes, if trump wins again, there'll be protests from the democrats side

if biden wins, there'll be protests from the republicans side

Republicans will accept democracy.

The left will throw their toys out of the pram.

[Nicky91]

Republicans will accept democracy.

The left will throw their toys out of the pram.

of course, when quite some democratic voters get sabotaged by the republicans

[Tom4784]

Trump supporters are engaging in voter intimidation and suppression across the US, I worry that Trump literally will steal the election.

[Denver]

Hopefully if Biden gets in he will have the ball to crack down on White Supremacy groups.

The fact that the KKK is still a legal organisation is unbelievable

[Tom4784]

Biden probably won't do anything dramatic with his presidency if he wins, especially since he's running on a unification, bipartisan platform. He'll probably right the boat which is good enough, but sadly, unless the Senate changes dramatically, he likely won't have the power to make some sweeping changes that need to be made.

The best we can hope for atm, is that he would put things back on track.

[The Slim Reaper]

Thoughts and prayers

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satire.

[bots]

the dems have a pretty good chance to take control of the senate. They need to net gain 3 or 4 seats depending on who becomes president.

They need a president that steadies the ship, protects the population from covid both health wise and economically, and returns normality to foreign relations. Even that is quite a bit to do

[The Slim Reaper]

the dems have a pretty good chance to take control of the senate. They need to net gain 3 or 4 seats depending on who becomes president.

They need a president that steadies the ship, protects the population from covid both health wise and economically, and returns normality to foreign relations. Even that is quite a bit to do

Even if Biden wins, Trump has pavlov'd his supporters into thinking covid is a hoax, or it's the flu, and masks are a conspiracy. It needs republicans to try and speak some truth, but unfortunately they'll be more likely to keep inflaming that rage.

[Captain.Remy]

I guess we have to prepare ourselves to wake up tomorrow morning and see that the USA are in another civil war after Trump called the Proud Boys and other fascists to burn the house down because he lost the election.

[The Slim Reaper]

Republicans respect democracy

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Not satire.

[Zizu]

On that note - how ****ing funny would it be if we made Trump and Biden have an actual race? Not for the presidency, just for fun.



Biden would leave Trump in the dust despite being older, but we'd have to be careful about distance or they would probably both die.



Biden would stop half way after getting distracted by a squirrel and Trump would get expelled for attempting to bribe the officials


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[Morgan.]

Heart - Biden.

Head - Trump.

It's all on the minorities this year imo, hopefully they've used their vote and wisely. It'll be a close one for sure.

More minority and youths have voted than ever before, the surge is incredible.

[Morgan.]

I guess we have to prepare ourselves to wake up tomorrow morning and see that the USA are in another civil war after Trump called the Proud Boys and other fascists to burn the house down because he lost the election.

I’ve been saying this for a few days, I really think a Civil War could be on the cards depending on the state of Trump’s potential loss.

[Oliver_W]

It's really hard to say, I think it'll be a close one! Either way, I bet Biden will win the popular vote. I can't see either getting a landslide as they're both crap, the best case scenario for Trump would be if he just about slips through with the electoral college.

I don't really care either way but I think choosing someone like bloody Biden means the Dems deserve to lose :joker: If they picked Bernie then Trump would be really in danger.

[user104658]

I’ve been saying this for a few days, I really think a Civil War could be on the cards depending on the state of Trump’s potential loss.

Heavy civil unrest, sure. Civil war in any meaningful form can't really occur in the US with a democrat win, because the large cities are heavily democrat, the military won't split, and it's not the 1800's - civilian firepower is a joke compared to US military equipment. It's not rifle-on-rifle in a field, it's a Walmart AR15 vs a drone that can kill you from kilometers in the air without you even knowing it was there.

Angry people rioting in the streets is not civil war.

[Oliver_W]

I’ve been saying this for a few days, I really think a Civil War could be on the cards depending on the state of Trump’s potential loss.

Tbh there'll probably be endless riots if Trump wins too, the USA is in a bit of a rock and hard place situation.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder if Sunderland North will declare first?

:fc:

[Liam-]

It's really hard to say, I think it'll be a close one! Either way, I bet Biden will win the popular vote. I can't see either getting a landslide as they're both crap, the best case scenario for Trump would be if he just about slips through with the electoral college.

I don't really care either way but I think choosing someone like bloody Biden means the Dems deserve to lose :joker: If they picked Bernie then Trump would be really in danger.

Bernie is the better politician with the better progressive policies, but he wouldn’t never have won the election, because unlike with Biden the socialist scare tactics would actually stick to him and alienate a large proportion of the independent vote away from him, a Bernie lead America would be an absolute dream, but it was never a realistic scenario

[Cherie]

I wonder if Sunderland North will declare first?

:fc:

:joker:

[Shaun]

I wonder if Sunderland North will declare first?

:fc:

I know it's a joke but they do have their own version of Sunderland North - which has already declared its results today :laugh:

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(it's a village that contains 12 people, 5 of whom voted)

[Crimson Dynamo]

I know it's a joke but they do have their own version of Sunderland North - which has already declared its results today :laugh:

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(it's a village that contains 5 people)

Cork?


:omgno:

[Denver]

Who ever wins Pennsylvania is likely to win the Electoral College

[Denver]

If Biden can get florida and Pennslyvania then its game ivee for Trump

[user104658]

If Biden can get Gloria and Pennslyvania then its game ivee for TrumpIt's game ivee for any candidate that loses Gloria tbh.

[Denver]

It's game ivee for any candidate that loses Gloria tbh.

Autocorrect is the bane of my life

[Denver]

Odds have Biden shortening and Trump drifting which could be a crucial indicator at this stage

[LaLaLand]

11-0 to Trump at midnight GMT.

[Denver]

Also Odds have Biden most likely to claim 330+ Electoral votes

[Denver]

11-0 to Trump at midnight GMT.

They are very strong states that he expected to win so don't read to much into those early results

[LaLaLand]

They are very strong states that he expected to win so don't read to much into those early results

Of course - it's very early days.

Will see what the difference is in 60 mins! :hehe:

[Denver]

Voters of White people are down by 6%

[user104658]

11-0 to Trump at midnight GMT.All Indiana so those are essentially pre-pocketed votes, a flip there is outwith the realms of possibility, it's blood red.

[Denver]

Biden has taken the lead in Florida but only 16% been counted so far

[Liam-]

Biden wins Vermont

[Jack_]

I’d like to be wrong but I think it’s going to be close, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump won at all. In fact, I spent most of the primaries thinking it was a forgone conclusion. Joe Biden is another establishment candidate, the DNC seemed once again obtuse to where the electorate actually are. But I think the pandemic has done the Democrats a world of favours, and may well tip the balance - time will tell. Don’t count out “shy Trumpsters” though, I think that’s definitely a thing as it is here with the Tories.

Make no mistake, if it’s a close race there will be an almighty mess.

[LaLaLand]

Regardless of the result I'm sensing MASSIVE civil unrest across the cities of America starting tonight. Horrifying.

[Denver]

If Biden wins Florida its game over for Trumo and right now its neck and neck

[Denver]

Trump is expected to Win Florida, he has to win that state where as Biden does not have to

[Denver]

Biden 30
Trump 18

[Kate!]

Biden 30
Trump 18

Come on Biden.

[Zizu]

Biden 30
Trump 18



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[user104658]

I'm off to bed... My final thoughts for the night though are that my belly is saying Trump wins :umm2:. Couldn't even say why but its the way the wind is blowing, for me.

[Zizu]

I'm off to bed... My final thoughts for the night though are that my belly is saying Trump wins :umm2:. Couldn't even say why but its the way the wind is blowing, for me.



Mmmm a lot of these US pundits / experts seem to be leaning towards Biden but who knows


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[LaLaLand]

Guy on ITV now live calling them out for bias.

[Jack_]

I'm off to bed... My final thoughts for the night though are that my belly is saying Trump wins :umm2:. Couldn't even say why but its the way the wind is blowing, for me.

Getting the same feeling lol

It all feels very deja vu (although in 2016 I always thought Trump would win)

[LaLaLand]

Trump is out performing the polls apparently.

[user104658]

Getting the same feeling lol



It all feels very deja vu (although in 2016 I always thought Trump would win)It feels deja vu of every major UK or US vote from the last 5+ years... Trumps, Tories and Brexits. Mob rule of uneducated people.

[arista]

Getting the same feeling lol

It all feels very deja vu (although in 2016 I always thought Trump would win)


how nice

[GoldHeart]

But still Biden is performing alot better than Hilary back in 2016 so that's something atleast .

[LaLaLand]

Is there gonna be a surge of results soon or?

[GoldHeart]

Is there gonna be a surge of results soon or?

This is where i'm keeping track of the votes/results

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html

[LaLaLand]

This is where i'm keeping track of the votes/results

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-president.html

Ah thank you! That's ace.

[GoldHeart]

Ah thank you! That's ace.

:wavey:

[Jack_]

The Democrats should be utterly ashamed that this election is as close as this

Regardless of how it turns out, it is an embarrassment

[Brother Leon]

The Democrats should be utterly ashamed that this election is as close as this

Regardless of how it turns out, it is an embarrassment

I still Biden will win it, but it’s a damn joke the Democratic had 4 years to get an absolute idiot out of office and it looks like they’ve struggled to this extent.

If it wasn’t Trump, I would almost want them to lose just so they could blow up the whole party and build new.

[Denver]

Biden 192
Trump 108

[LaLaLand]

Joe's doing well!

[Denver]

He needs just 78 votes

[LaLaLand]

Final, final outcome of election could be later this week.

[GoldHeart]

Final, final outcome of election could be later this week.

As soon as we find out results of Florida , Pennsylvania & Ohio then it's pretty clear cut .

[bots]

As soon as we find out results of Florida , Pennsylvania & Ohio then it's pretty clear cut .

Pennsylvania is due to be counted in a couple of days :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Pennsylvania is due to be counted in a couple of days :laugh:

If that's the case then i'll just assume the worst ! seen as we already know who's in the lead for PA

[bots]

If that's the case then i'll just assume the worst ! seen as we already know who's in the lead for PA

but in PA they count the mail in votes last, so Trump will lead in on the day counting until the 1 million mail in votes are counted :laugh:

[Brother Leon]

Arizona projection looking solid for Biden. If that goes through then two of Michigan,Pennsylvania or Wisconsin will do it.

[Jack_]

Fox News calls Arizona for Biden, which is obviously a flip

Wait to see if other networks follow

[bots]

the cnn coverage is dreadful lol

[Denver]

Fox News calls Arizona for Biden, which is obviously a flip

Wait to see if other networks follow

This is a very important win and he is expected to win 2 more swing states at least

[bots]

Virginia is looking good for Biden

[Denver]

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Could be a goodnnight for Biden

[Kizzy]

Woke up and can't get back to sleep now worrying about it :(

[bots]

Woke up and can't get back to sleep now worrying about it :(

don't listen to any of the results until they are called is the top tip. CNN are giving a running total which is very misleading

[Jack_]

The Dems might not gain control of the Senate after all, which weirdly might end up being the most disappointing result of them all

[Ammi]

...so the betting odds have flipped to Trump being favourite, I’m reading...

[Denver]

Biden is now likely to take the state of Georgia

[Amy Jade]

not going to lie I do not understand how the US election vote works but it's looking pretty strong for Biden, right?

[Denver]

not going to lie I do not understand how the US election vote works but it's looking pretty strong for Biden, right?

Basically each state is given a number of votes based on population, and each town and city in the states votes and the candidate with the most overall votes win the state, but to be elected you need 270 electoral points

[GoldHeart]

not going to lie I do not understand how the US election vote works but it's looking pretty strong for Biden, right?

It's all about those damn electoral college votes for each states

[GoldHeart]

FFS Biden lost Ohio

[Jack_]

not going to lie I do not understand how the US election vote works but it's looking pretty strong for Biden, right?

I would not describe this performance as “strong”. I mean, he *might’ve* flipped Arizona which hasn’t voted for a Democrat since 96, but the election is on a knife edge and if he wins it’s not going to be by any significant margin

If anything I’d say it’s Trump who is outperforming expectations

[Jack_]

Fox News have retracted their Arizona call lol

(The White House were unhappy they called so early)

edit: okay apparently no retraction

[Denver]

Biden needs 55 votes

[GoldHeart]

What a surprise Trump won Florida :bored::bored: predictable much

[Amy Jade]

I totally don't get how it works haha either way the ITV coverage is showing Biden is only 55 points away which is great?

[LaLaLand]

Trump has won Florida. :sad:

[GoldHeart]

I totally don't get how it works haha either way the ITV coverage is showing Biden is only 55 points away which is great?

Basically each state is worth a particular amount of points , but yeah their voting system is annoying .

[GoldHeart]

Trump has won Florida. :sad:

Hardly a shock , still frustrating though :facepalm:

[Denver]

Biden has said he believes he won Michigan and Pennsylvania

[LaLaLand]

Hope he hasn't just jinxed himself.

[Denver]

Hope he hasn't just jinxed himself.

I'm optimistic because if Trump knew he had won or was very likely he would be bragging about it

[Amy Jade]

He comes across so much better than Trump ever has, he just says what needs to be said and no nonsense unlike Trump who spills venom

[Jack_]

And so it begins...

We are up BIG, but they are trying to STEAL the Election. We will never let them do it. Votes cannot be cast after the Poles are closed!

Despot in chief

[LaLaLand]

Trump is ****ting himself

[GoldHeart]

Landslide victory with Trump being humiliated in defeat would of been really nice for Biden . I hate how close this is , Trump might still win :bored: :facepalm:

[LaLaLand]

Trump has called CNN personally and requested they do not announce Biden's win in Arizona.

I-

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[GoldHeart]

Trump has called CNN personally and requested they do not announce Biden's win in Arizona.

I-

Whattt

[LaLaLand]

Not just CNN, it seems.

See above Tweet ^.

[LaLaLand]

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[LaLaLand]

Twitter has HIDDEN TRUMP'S TWEET

[Jack_]

Lmaooooo Twitter have censored Trump’s tweet

[GoldHeart]

He's such a ridiculous whiny orange mess !!!

[LaLaLand]

He's absolutely fuming and I love it.

Imagine the scenes in The White House rn :joker:

[Denver]

I think Trumo knows he has lost

[GoldHeart]

He's absolutely fuming and I love it.

Imagine the scenes in The White House rn :joker:

One hell of a pathetic childish tantrum no doubt

[LaLaLand]

We're laughing now, but this could cause serious problems now.

If he keeps on about this and firing up his supporters with it, there's going to be off the scale rioting imo.

[GoldHeart]

We're laughing now, but this could cause serious problems now.

If he keeps on about this and firing up his supporters with it, there's going to be off the scale rioting imo.

This is exactly what i'm dreading aswell , Trump doesn't believe in democracy or anything that's civilised . He encourages violence and anything goes with him ! .

[LaLaLand]

Trump wins Texas.

[bots]

the problem is that they have different methods (sequencing) of counting state to state with different rules in each. CNN are giving snapshots on current counts not like here where we wait until there is a result .... and it just gives a very confusing picture :laugh:

[LaLaLand]

Live footage from Washington DC on GMB showing crowds and crowds of Biden/Trump supporters on the streets, clashes looking imminent.

[Mitchell]

Good morning Britain are cracking out the experts, Farage, Sarah Palin, John Lydon and John Barrowman.

[GoldHeart]

Trump wins Texas.

As usual

[bots]

it's not going to be a landslide for Biden like i predicted, i think thats a given now

[LaLaLand]

Of the votes counted so far in Pennsylvania, Trump is leading.

[GoldHeart]

it's not going to be a landslide for Biden like i predicted, i think thats a given now

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[bots]

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no need to get snarky, it was a distinct possibility at one point

[Vanessa]

Wow, this is neck and neck. Incredibly close!

[LaLaLand]

Currently 10 electoral votes between the two, crazy.

[Vanessa]

Im happy with whoever wins. They're both good candidates in my opinion.

[GoldHeart]

Currently 10 electoral votes between the two, crazy.

Terrible

[bots]

its going to come down to 2 or 3 states and how they fall with results not due any time soon :laugh:

[Ammi]

...I’m not sure that there was ever going to be any other outcome than a Trump win...sadly...

[AnnieK]

Didn't think it would be this close. My Dad said Trump would win weeks ago and I mocked him. Have some serious "told you so's" coming my way I think :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Trump will win

I dont know. Biden is leading at the moment.

[Vanessa]

I don't think it going to be a landslide for Biden.
Trump is still very popular and has a good chance of winning.

[Amy Jade]

Im happy with whoever wins. They're both good candidates in my opinion.

How is a man who suggested people inject bleach into themselves a good candidate?

[Ammi]

Didn't think it would be this close. My Dad said Trump would win weeks ago and I mocked him. Have some serious "told you so's" coming my way I think :laugh:

...I just could never see him actually not winning, tbh...it was a dream that was never going to happen....hello 2020....

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[Vanessa]

How is a man who suggested people inject bleach into themselves a good candidate?

Admittedly that was stupid.

[Vanessa]

Trump is going to make a statement shortly from the White House.

[joeysteele]

Why does a man claiming he's winning, claim fraud.

What a strange speech.
Although not a surprising one.

[Jack_]

This is just dangerous and incendiary

The worlds leading democracy, folks

[bots]

i think Trump knows he has lost, a winner doesn't claim fraud like trump just did

just seen ... Joey ... we agree :dance:

[Cherie]

He won Florida because of the Latino vote ..what!

[bots]

He won Florida because of the Latino vote ..what!

yeah, they don't want people in countries south of the border coming in .... there is no love lost between some of those South American countries

[user104658]

He won Florida because of the Latino vote ..what!Cubans who have left Cuba for the United States are terrified of communism/socialism (for decent enough reasons to be fair) and the Republicans have done a rather good job of convincing them that Biden is a closet "far left" socialist waiting to pounce.

[user104658]

i think Trump knows he has lost, a winner doesn't claim fraud like trump just did



just seen ... Joey ... we agree :dance:I don't really see how, the maths doesn't stack up as things stand and Trump is now clear favourite in the odds. Biden is behind (albeit by thin margins) in states that were considered key.

[Ammi]

I don't really see how, the maths doesn't stack up as things stand and Trump is now clear favourite in the odds. Biden is behind (albeit by thin margins) in states that were considered key.

...yeah I am getting confused if Trump is speaking ‘I’ve lost’ because that’s not what the odds seem to be saying and very much are indicating his expected win, surely...

[bots]

I don't really see how, the maths doesn't stack up as things stand and Trump is now clear favourite in the odds. Biden is behind (albeit by thin margins) in states that were considered key.

its all about votes not counted yet. Trump may win, sure, but there are still a lot of votes to count... we always knew Trump would do this

At the moment if they stopped counting in Arizona, Biden would win it ... so he wants it stopped in areas where he is currently ahead only :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Why does a man claiming he's winning, claim fraud.

What a strange speech.
Although not a surprising one.

because he knows beforehand he got Texas, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio in the bag

[joeysteele]

i think Trump knows he has lost, a winner doesn't claim fraud like trump just did

just seen ... Joey ... we agree :dance:

:joker: actually we do often bots.
Good morning to you on another it seems crazy day in now World politics.

[joeysteele]

because he knows beforehand he got Texas, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio in the bag

He hasn't got them all in the bag at all.
There's tons of votes yet to be counted and declared in both Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

[Elliot]

There’s people claiming it’s a clear win for Biden and people claiming it’s a clear win for trump...

[GoldHeart]

There’s people claiming it’s a clear win for Biden and people claiming it’s a clear win for trump...

Talk about mad confusion eh

[Parmy]

I dont want a paedo in office so i said trump.

[Elliot]

I dont want a paedo in office so i said trump.

I mean, trump was on the flight log for Epstein’s island

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1323864021167198209

literal delusion at its finest :laugh3:

[user104658]

There’s people claiming it’s a clear win for Biden and people claiming it’s a clear win for trump...

I think it sides with Trump but either way claiming it's "clear" can only be wishful partisan thinking... clear as Flordia swamp water.

[bots]

which ever way you roll it, if not for covid, trump would have walked it, and what that says to me is that the vast majority of american people are quite happy having someone with the personality of Trump as the commander in chief. There is a much bigger issue with America here than Trump

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

hypocrite latino's, that Trump was trying to build a wall, and get all of you deported so why vote for him

[Ammi]

which ever way you roll it, if not for covid, trump would have walked it, and what that says to me is that the vast majority of american people are quite happy having someone with the personality of Trump as the commander in chief. There is a much bigger issue with America here than Trump

...I think that’s quite simplifying, though...the problem is...(...and it’s what we’ve experienced here...)...is that there is an absence of contenders, as it were...which quite a bit, takes away that element of ‘voting for’ as in positive voting...rather than ‘vote Biden because he’s not Trump’../..negative voting...and we’ve struggled with a strong and popular Labour leader as well to contend with Conservative leadership...so we know how layered it is...

[Ammi]

...I also think that if someone like Biden who is so not ideal either and nowhere near being...can even come close to the present President and it not be an existing office landslide etc...that just shows, whichever way I flip it...:laugh:...how absolutely rubbish Trump is and how much the US people are despaired atm...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its about the economy

not trump, what he says, tweets or what idealistic young people say on social media

its not about black, its not about white, its about GREEN

economy

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[user104658]

Its about the economy

not trump, what he says, tweets or what idealistic young people say on social media

its not about black, its not about white, its about GREEN

economy

$

Based on some of the random interviews I saw when watching last night, I agree. An awful lot of people aged around 28 - 40 clearly indicating that they dislike Trump as a person but vote Red for economic reasons. As soon as I saw a fairly articulate young adult basically say "I hate Trump but for financial reasons I can't vote Democrat" it put a massive question mark on the whole election, and that was quite early on.

[Nicky91]

Based on some of the random interviews I saw when watching last night, I agree. An awful lot of people aged around 28 - 40 clearly indicating that they dislike Trump as a person but vote Red for economic reasons. As soon as I saw a fairly articulate young adult basically say "I hate Trump but for financial reasons I can't vote Democrat" it put a massive question mark on the whole election, and that was quite early on.

ah the super rich scared they must pay extra taxes when democrats win

[user104658]

ah the super rich scared they must pay extra taxes when democrats win

Middle income professionals Nicky - there aren't enough "super rich" people to make a dent.

[Captain.Remy]

Well, lightning never strikes twice in the same place for no reason.
It surprised everyone in 2016. But if the americans elect Trump today, then it's for a reason and obviously they seem happy to have him as President despite whatever he did/does/says/said that looks tragic.

[user104658]

I cant see a Biden win scenario at this point, I'm calling it. She's ded.

[bots]

I cant see a Biden win scenario at this point, I'm calling it. She's ded.

it's close and it really shouldn't be .... it is what it is :laugh:

[Elliot]

Had Bernie been the candidate, I don’t think this would be as close as it is, he probably would’ve won :(

[Zizu]

Why didn’t Obama run again ??


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[Niamh.]

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[Amy Jade]

of course grandpa biden needs to move into retirement home

no way he can win, since Trump has all the youth supporting him

Stop with the ageist bull****. Trump is literally only 3 years younger.

[Vanessa]

Yeah, they're both in their 70s.

[Nicky91]

Stop with the ageist bull****. Trump is literally only 3 years younger.

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

[Niamh.]

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

Yes about 4 or 5

[user104658]

Had Bernie been the candidate, I don’t think this would be as close as it is, he probably would’ve won :(

He would not. If anything, they needed a square-jawed economy-focussed Purple Democrat who would openly denounce (what is seen as) heavy social justice activism. Sanders would have been fleeced in the states that are currently knife-edge.

[Niamh.]

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

Well that's a sign of stupidity and arrogance rather than youthfulness

[user104658]

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

He's not looking well right now tbh, neither of them are, a US presidential election race beats the **** out of people 20 years younger so...

[Nicky91]

Well that's a sign of stupidity and arrogance rather than youthfulness

same as wanting to fire Dr Fauci (but first use him for your campaign)

[Vanessa]

He's not looking well right now tbh, neither of them are, a US presidential election race beats the **** out of people 20 years younger so...

Yes, but to be fair to trump, he has the virus.
So he won't be 100% yet.

[Amy Jade]

Trump acts like he's younger though, also ignoring the fact he's also in risk group for covid, not taken any precautions with distancing at his campaign rally's while Biden did

Yes like a toddler.

Both are in their 70's and actually Biden is clearly in better physical health than Trump.

[Nicky91]

tbh Trump can mock Biden about his basement, but Biden thinks more of his health, and also is aware of the dangers of covid-19, so makes a better leader amid covidcrisis, i think so

[user104658]

Yes like a toddler.

Both are in their 70's and actually Biden is clearly in better physical health than Trump.

He was looking very, very tired in clips last night.

I honestly think there should be an upper age limit of 62 for presidents running for their first term (so a two-term president would be at most 70 on LEAVING office).

[Vanessa]

He was looking very, very tired in clips last night.

I honestly think there should be an upper age limit of 62 for presidents running for their first term (so a two-term president would be at most 70 on LEAVING office).

Yes, I think realistically he will only be able to do one term.

[Nicky91]

Yes, I think realistically he will only be able to do one term.

that's ok, then Kamala can do it the second term (i mean most Biden voters vote for Kamala now anyway, since if Biden is no longer capable to be president she takes over, which is a very interesting strategic vote)

[user104658]

that's ok, then Kamala can do it the second term (i mean most Biden voters vote for Kamala now anyway, since if Biden is no longer capable to be president she takes over, which is a very interesting strategic vote)

IF Biden was to win the only route to Kamala being president is if she was to take over during his first term, in which case she would stand a good chance of being re-elected for the second term because sitting presidents have a clear advantage. She wouldn't win as a brand new candidate.

[Parmy]

I mean, trump was on the flight log for Epstein’s island

False.

[Denver]

Biden is expected to take Michigan and Wisconsin while keeping Nevada which all but puts him in the Whitehouse

[Niamh.]

Biden is expected to take Michigan and Wisconsin while keeping Nevada which all but puts him in the Whitehouse

:fc: :fc: :fc:

[Denver]

:fc: :fc: :fc:

Georgia and Pennsylvania are 50/50 and will go to the wire but the votes that are yet to be counted are early votes which favour Biden massively

[lewis111]

Biden is expected to take Michigan and Wisconsin while keeping Nevada which all but puts him in the Whitehouse

Who’s projecting this, I’m kinda all over the place at the minute

[bots]

IF Biden was to win the only route to Kamala being president is if she was to take over during his first term, in which case she would stand a good chance of being re-elected for the second term because sitting presidents have a clear advantage. She wouldn't win as a brand new candidate.

if the president dies there is no obligation to then install the VP. The party would decide who the next president would be

[bots]

Biden has a lead of about 7000 votes in Wisconsin when i last checked so that doesnt rank as a certainty in my book :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Biden is expected to take Michigan and Wisconsin while keeping Nevada which all but puts him in the Whitehouse

huh, not according to CNN, where it showed Trump to be in the lead of Michigan

[Denver]

Who’s projecting this, I’m kinda all over the place at the minute

Its due to the mail in votes and the percentage Biden is winning them by which at the minute is as high as 80%

[Denver]

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[user104658]

If mail-ins swing several states Trump (and more notably, Trump supporters) will almost certainly cry foul play. It'll get very, very messy.

[bots]

If mail-ins swing several states Trump (and more notably, Trump supporters) will almost certainly cry foul play. It'll get very, very messy.

its all very messy because many states are counting the mail ins last, which is why Bidens numbers come up as time goes on ... Thats why Trump wants them halted.

[GoldHeart]

Had Bernie been the candidate, I don’t think this would be as close as it is, he probably would’ve won :(

Yeah I liked Bernie and this is what I keep wondering , I really wish Bernie was in the race . This would of been his last chance too :(

[joeysteele]

its all very messy because many states are counting the mail ins last, which is why Bidens numbers come up as time goes on ... Thats why Trump wants them halted.

...and now here I agree with you bitontheslide.

[user104658]

Yeah I liked Bernie and this is what I keep wondering , I really wish Bernie was in the race . This would of been his last chance too :(

Bernie is too left for the current US, he simply couldn't win. Maybe in a few decades time. I think the US *is* slowly beginning to tire of the healthcare situation and in general will soon want some form of affordable or universal healthcare - dirty dirty socialism!

I reckon an AOC presidency is possible at some point if she shifts slightly to the right/pragmastism over time (likely).

But not now.

[bots]

just to prove the point, Wisconsin is now a 20k lead for Biden :laugh:

[Nicky91]

If mail-ins swing several states Trump (and more notably, Trump supporters) will almost certainly cry foul play. It'll get very, very messy.

if they do that, they show themselves as very bad losers

most of Biden voters preferred mail-ins out of safety for covid-19 which is just being smart

so it being a close call now on normal votes alone, makes me think Biden might still edge it

[Elliot]

Bernie is too left for the current US, he simply couldn't win. Maybe in a few decades time. I think the US *is* slowly beginning to tire of the healthcare situation and in general will soon want some form of affordable or universal healthcare - dirty dirty socialism!

I reckon an AOC presidency is possible at some point if she shifts slightly to the right/pragmastism over time (likely).

But not now.

She said she has plans for a run when shes old enough to legally apply as a candidate. I can see her doing really well

[user104658]

just to prove the point, Wisconsin is now a 20k lead for Biden :laugh:

FFS Trump has slid out to 3/1. Should have waited. Or not bet at all.

In fact I should have bet Biden when he was 2/1 and had a guaranteed profit :fist:. I wasn't keeping a close eye on this until quite late last night though... I was planning on ignoring it completely until the result was in but my wife wanted to put the live results on telleh last night and I got sucked right in. Damnit.

[bots]

FFS Trump has slid out to 3/1. Should have waited. Or not bet at all.

In fact I should have bet Biden when he was 2/1 and had a guaranteed profit :fist:. I wasn't keeping a close eye on this until quite late last night though... I was planning on ignoring it completely until the result was in but my wife wanted to put the live results on telleh last night and I got sucked right in. Damnit.

michigan is down to a 2k lead from trump now, it was 30k 5 mins ago :laugh:

[user104658]

I bottled it and cashed out about 10 minutes ago :joker:, got back 3/4 of what I staked, seconds later he went 4/1 (/...!) so I re-bet a tiny bit that will still net a slight overall profit if he does win.

This was wild. I watched these political events from the other side of the bookies table for nearly 10 years and I've never seen a flip like that in such a short space of time. Holy ****.