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thesheriff443
13-11-2020, 07:47 AM
All in the title.
...one tweet said that he had refused any treatment...so maybe had a will to die...
smudgie
13-11-2020, 07:59 AM
Good news at last in 2020.
AnnieK
13-11-2020, 08:00 AM
...one tweet said that he had refused any treatment...so maybe had a will to die...
The report I read said that as a devout Jehovah's Witness, he told medics he did not want to prolong his life artificially.
He was obese and diabetic so high risk.
His death is no loss to society
The serial killer known as the Yorkshire Ripper has died, Sky News understands.
Peter Sutcliffe, 74, was one of the UK's most notorious prisoners, having murdered at least 13 women across the north of England in the late 1970s.
His prison term had been increased to a whole life sentence in 2010 and he was being held at HMP Frankland in County Durham.
Sutcliffe is understood to have died at University Hospital of North Durham, three miles from where he was an inmate.
He was sent there after developing COVID-19, but is understood to have refused treatment for the virus.
The 74-year-old had previously returned to prison after being treated for a suspected heart attack two weeks ago - but was forced to go back to hospital after testing positive for coronavirus. He had a number of health problems, including diabetes and obesity.
...full article...
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/yorkshire-ripper-serial-killer-peter-175500041.html
The report I read said that as a devout Jehovah's Witness, he told medics he did not want to prolong his life artificially.
He was obese and diabetic so high risk.
His death is no loss to society
...oh jinxed, I was just reading about his health issues...yeah, he wasn’t in good health it would seem...so a ‘vulnerable’ to COVID....and then obviously not wanting any attempt to preserve his life...
...it is what it is, it was his decision to refuse treatment...his victims sadly and horrifically, didn’t have any decisions about their lives but he did and he made it...
arista
13-11-2020, 08:25 AM
...one tweet said that he had refused any treatment...so maybe had a will to die...
Yes looks that way.
joeysteele
13-11-2020, 08:31 AM
Another welcome loss.
Another good riddance from me.
GoldHeart
13-11-2020, 08:44 AM
Another welcome loss.
Another good riddance from me.
I'm surprised Covid finished him off tbh .
But someone that evil and heartless definitely won't be missed .
women were terrified while he was on his rampage, so can't say i'm sorry to hear he is dead
joeysteele
13-11-2020, 08:59 AM
I'm surprised Covid finished him off tbh .
But someone that evil and heartless definitely won't be missed .
He apparently it seems had other health conditions too Goldheart.
I agree with you, evil is the word to describe him.
GoldHeart
13-11-2020, 09:01 AM
Yeah I just read about his other health problems so I guess it was to be expected
Crimson Dynamo
13-11-2020, 09:16 AM
He should have been executed by the state many many years ago
...it’s so easy for us to not feel any emotions for his passing but for survivors of his attacks and relatives of his victims, I can’t imagine how today must feel for them...
Kazanne
13-11-2020, 10:16 AM
And they say Friday 13th is unlucky, I don't think so .Good riddance to that thing.
Black Dagger
13-11-2020, 10:35 AM
Oh no.
Gutted.
Mystic Mock
13-11-2020, 11:21 AM
Good news at last in 2020.
This.
All in the title.
Fabulous news on Friday 13th !!
The other prisoners have been trying to get him for years apparently
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UserSince2005
13-11-2020, 12:31 PM
Covid trying to turn his reputation around?
Crimson Dynamo
13-11-2020, 12:38 PM
Covid trying to turn his reputation around?
:laugh:
The Slim Reaper
13-11-2020, 12:44 PM
Hope the truth hasn't taken the news too badly.
Crimson Dynamo
13-11-2020, 12:53 PM
Hope the truth hasn't taken the news too badly.
well he hasnt posted on facebook today or twitter and he never misses a day?
Crimson Dynamo
13-11-2020, 12:54 PM
i only keep in touch as he is a big Hammers fan
Cherie
13-11-2020, 01:14 PM
Can some one explain how you get obsese and develop diabetes in prison, do you get as much as you want to eat or what?
Cherie
13-11-2020, 01:14 PM
i only keep in touch as he is a big Hammers fan
:joker:
Cherie
13-11-2020, 01:15 PM
Can some one explain how you get obsese and develop diabetes in prison, do you get as much as you want to eat or what?
?
The Slim Reaper
13-11-2020, 01:19 PM
?
You take in more calories than you burn off. If he was living a sedentary life, then it would be fairly easy even without a daily diet of bacon and cheese.
GoldHeart
13-11-2020, 01:23 PM
?
Queens hotel is clearly giving them too much food , I always said UK prison seems more like a holiday camp to them :bored: .
Tom4784
13-11-2020, 01:57 PM
May he rest in piss.
thesheriff443
13-11-2020, 02:11 PM
i only keep in touch as he is a big Hammers fan
Over here son, on me head.
rusticgal
13-11-2020, 02:14 PM
Can some one explain how you get obsese and develop diabetes in prison, do you get as much as you want to eat or what?
Cherie, you can earn money in prison and use it to purchase goods and food...family or friends can send money to prisoner accounts too. If he wasnt burning the calories and was eating lots of cakes and biscuits..:shrug:
arista
13-11-2020, 02:31 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/13/14/article-8945247-35640902-243_964x543.jpg
Arrogant to the bitter end: How Yorkshire Ripper bragged
he wouldn't catch Covid in jail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8945247/Yorkshire-Ripper-dead-74.html
Tom4784
13-11-2020, 02:31 PM
Queens hotel is clearly giving them too much food , I always said UK prison seems more like a holiday camp to them :bored: .
Have you ever been to prison? I haven't, but I think it's foolish to act like it's some easy thing when a lot of people who make out that it's a summer camp would struggle to deal with it.
user104658
13-11-2020, 02:45 PM
Have you ever been to prison? I haven't, but I think it's foolish to act like it's some easy thing when a lot of people who make out that it's a summer camp would struggle to deal with it.My wife has spent the last year working with people who are constantly in and out of prison and they ALWAYS come out swearing that they'll never go back (though sadly, ultimately failing such is addiction). But yeah, these are people living in slum flats or sometimes straight up homeless and they describe prison as being utterly miserable... So I agree I don't think it's a holiday camp by any stretch of the imagination. And that's "petty prison", not the hard prison with the seriously dangerous people.
...and in contrast and balance...the goodness of someone as well...:love:...
Son of Ripper victim called Sutcliffe’s brother to ‘offer condolences’...
The son of the Yorkshire Ripper’s first recognised victim said he reached out to the serial killer’s brother “to offer my condolences” after hearing the news of his death.
Richard McCann was only five years old when his mother, Wilma McCann, was murdered in 1975.
He revealed he had been in touch with one of Peter Sutcliffe’s brothers, Carl, following the news that the murderer had died in prison on Friday.
Mr McCann told the BBC: “I gave him a call when I got the news to offer my condolences.
“Carl Sutcliffe reached out to me many years ago when he read about my journey – he reached out to me with compassion and I felt the same.
“I know he obviously did some horrendous things but he was still his brother so I felt like I wanted to call him.”
He said news of Sutcliffe’s death had brought him “some degree of closure”, but he had never wished him dead and nor was he celebrating the news.
He said: “Every time we hear a news story about him, and my mum’s photo is often shown, it’s just another reminder of what he did.”
Mr McCann said “one positive” to come from Sutcliffe’s death is that “we’ll hear much less about him, and no more reminders about what happened all those years ago”.
Mother-of-four Ms McCann was just 28 when she was killed on playing fields in Chapeltown, Leeds, yards from her home.
Her son said he was left terrified after his mother’s death, and when Sutcliffe killed Jayne MacDonald, who also lived in his street.
Mr McCann said: “I was convinced as a child, having had no therapy of any description, that he was out there and that he was going to kill me.
“It really affected me. I was ashamed of being associated with Sutcliffe and all his crimes and, possibly, to do with the way that lots of people in society looked down, and the police and some of the media – describing some of the women as innocent and some not so innocent.
“I’m sorry to harp on about this but I’ve had to live with that shame for all these years.
“There’s only one person that should have felt any shame – although I doubt that he did – and that was Peter Sutcliffe.”
Mr McCann appealed to West Yorkshire Police to make a formal apology for the way in which his mother and other victims of Sutcliffe were described by officers in the 1970s.
He said he wants the force “once and for all” to “apologise to the families, who are still around, for the way in which they described some of the women as ‘innocent’, inferring that some were not innocent – including my mum”.
He added: “I’d invite them to make that apology. They were innocent and it would set the records straight.
“I want her to be remembered as the mother of four children, the daughter of her parents.
“She was a family woman who, through no fault of her own, was going through adversity and made some bad decisions, some risky decisions.
“She paid for those decisions with her life.”
A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said: “We have received correspondence from Mr McCann and commit to continue to engage with him directly.”
...if he was in isolation for much of his time there, then lack of exercise etc, could be a huge factor with his weight as well...
Tom4784
13-11-2020, 02:52 PM
...and in contrast and balance...the goodness of someone as well...:love:...
Son of Ripper victim called Sutcliffe’s brother to ‘offer condolences’...
The son of the Yorkshire Ripper’s first recognised victim said he reached out to the serial killer’s brother “to offer my condolences” after hearing the news of his death.
Richard McCann was only five years old when his mother, Wilma McCann, was murdered in 1975.
He revealed he had been in touch with one of Peter Sutcliffe’s brothers, Carl, following the news that the murderer had died in prison on Friday.
Mr McCann told the BBC: “I gave him a call when I got the news to offer my condolences.
“Carl Sutcliffe reached out to me many years ago when he read about my journey – he reached out to me with compassion and I felt the same.
“I know he obviously did some horrendous things but he was still his brother so I felt like I wanted to call him.”
He said news of Sutcliffe’s death had brought him “some degree of closure”, but he had never wished him dead and nor was he celebrating the news.
He said: “Every time we hear a news story about him, and my mum’s photo is often shown, it’s just another reminder of what he did.”
Mr McCann said “one positive” to come from Sutcliffe’s death is that “we’ll hear much less about him, and no more reminders about what happened all those years ago”.
Mother-of-four Ms McCann was just 28 when she was killed on playing fields in Chapeltown, Leeds, yards from her home.
Her son said he was left terrified after his mother’s death, and when Sutcliffe killed Jayne MacDonald, who also lived in his street.
Mr McCann said: “I was convinced as a child, having had no therapy of any description, that he was out there and that he was going to kill me.
“It really affected me. I was ashamed of being associated with Sutcliffe and all his crimes and, possibly, to do with the way that lots of people in society looked down, and the police and some of the media – describing some of the women as innocent and some not so innocent.
“I’m sorry to harp on about this but I’ve had to live with that shame for all these years.
“There’s only one person that should have felt any shame – although I doubt that he did – and that was Peter Sutcliffe.”
Mr McCann appealed to West Yorkshire Police to make a formal apology for the way in which his mother and other victims of Sutcliffe were described by officers in the 1970s.
He said he wants the force “once and for all” to “apologise to the families, who are still around, for the way in which they described some of the women as ‘innocent’, inferring that some were not innocent – including my mum”.
He added: “I’d invite them to make that apology. They were innocent and it would set the records straight.
“I want her to be remembered as the mother of four children, the daughter of her parents.
“She was a family woman who, through no fault of her own, was going through adversity and made some bad decisions, some risky decisions.
“She paid for those decisions with her life.”
A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said: “We have received correspondence from Mr McCann and commit to continue to engage with him directly.”
That's kind of him, it's easy to forget that these monsters have innocent families who likely struggle with complex feelings regarding what they've done. You may turn your back on someone, and cut them out of your life (Or the opposite) but it still doesn't make the grief easier.
Cherie
13-11-2020, 02:56 PM
Cherie, you can earn money in prison and use it to purchase goods and food...family or friends can send money to prisoner accounts too. If he wasnt burning the calories and was eating lots of cakes and biscuits..:shrug:
yeah I get that but to get obsese and become diabetic even without exercise you would have to be eating a hell of a lot of stuff
That's kind of him, it's easy to forget that these monsters have innocent families who likely struggle with complex feelings regarding what they've done. You may turn your back on someone, and cut them out of your life (Or the opposite) but it still doesn't make the grief easier.
...also because Peter Sutcliffe’s brother had reached out to him as well in hearing of his life journey...so many victims extending out from those violent crimes...
Kizzy
13-11-2020, 03:11 PM
I remember being terrified of him as a kid, news of him was everywhere in Leeds.
Thinking about it there hasn't been much mentioned about the covid death rate in prisons he can't be the first.
rusticgal
13-11-2020, 03:20 PM
yeah I get that but to get obsese and become diabetic even without exercise you would have to be eating a hell of a lot of stuff
I guess it just built up over the years...poor diet and lack of excercise.
smudgie
13-11-2020, 06:59 PM
yeah I get that but to get obsese and become diabetic even without exercise you would have to be eating a hell of a lot of stuff
Depends.
If he was insulin dependant then the weight could pile on.
You take in more calories than you burn off. If he was living a sedentary life, then it would be fairly easy even without a daily diet of bacon and cheese.
Wasnt he a lorry driver?..sitting sweating in his own stew, eating grease rolls at the side of the road?
user104658
13-11-2020, 08:07 PM
Wasnt he a lorry driver?..sitting sweating in his own stew, eating grease rolls at the side of the road?
He'd been in prison for nearly 40 years so ... I don't think he's been eating greasy rolls at the side of the road any time recently.
Aaliyah
14-11-2020, 02:03 AM
RIP icon (for all the wrong reasons mind!)
https://i.imgur.com/UWV2np6.gif
LaLaLand
14-11-2020, 02:37 AM
A successful COVID vaccine, Trump beaten, Cummings gone and now THIS all in the space of a few small weeks!?
2020 giving back in time for Christmas. :love:
LaLaLand
14-11-2020, 02:40 AM
A mate of my Dad's used to work at a local factory near here like on the gate and TYR was one of the regular delivery drivers, became a good acquaintance of his, always talked and what not when he brought the deliveries.
My Dad's mate remembers mentioning about the murders to him one time because he knew "Pete" was from that area. Creepy.
arista
14-11-2020, 03:27 AM
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GoldHeart
14-11-2020, 05:46 AM
Have you ever been to prison? I haven't, but I think it's foolish to act like it's some easy thing when a lot of people who make out that it's a summer camp would struggle to deal with it.
Dezzy I know :rolleyes: , I'm just saying the rules and that still seem softer on prisoners. I'm not saying the UK should be as brutal as other prisons around the world.
But Its as if some criminals treat it like a casual place ,as so many of them are in and out without a care. Especially if they know they'll only be in there for a short while.
They get full meals, can even have access to courses , internet ,some even have the audacity to stream themselves in the cell laughing with a mobile phone that they shouldn't have !. They get given a chance to rehabilitate . Look at how many chances venebles got and he still abused it .
Some sickos should just stay in prison to rot like the Yorkshire ripper .
Granted of course it would be a hard time in prison, no I've never been so I can only imagine the trouble and nightmares some might face. I'm not saying it's a walk in the park for everyone.
The ripper spent 30 years in broadmoor which certainly isnt any picnic before moving to "normal" prison where he would have been held in solitary. I don't see that as a picnic
The ripper spent 30 years in broadmoor which certainly isnt any picnic before moving to "normal" prison where he would have been held in solitary. I don't see that as a picnic
Didn’t he get special privileges and 24/7 protection from the other prisoners though ??
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arista
14-11-2020, 01:54 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/13/21/35655032-8947601-image-a-55_1605301628018.jpg
[1991 Sutcliffe meets boxer Frank Bruno
and the late paedophile Jimmy Savile at Broadmoor.
The visit was set up by Savile, says Bruno]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8947601/How-Yorkshire-Ripper-cossetted-cost-10-MILLION.html
Cant do the time..dont do the crime..
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/13/21/35655032-8947601-image-a-55_1605301628018.jpg
[1991 Sutcliffe meets boxer Frank Bruno
and the late paedophile Jimmy Savile at Broadmoor.
The visit was set up by Savile, says Bruno]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8947601/How-Yorkshire-Ripper-cossetted-cost-10-MILLION.html
Urghhh..that's sickening.
Jack_
14-11-2020, 08:08 PM
I remember being terrified of him as a kid, news of him was everywhere in Leeds.
Thinking about it there hasn't been much mentioned about the covid death rate in prisons he can't be the first.
Well in a bid to control infection, the outgoing Chief Inspector of Prisons told Newsnight recently that inmates have been kept in their cells for 23 hours a day
I find it highly concerning
https://twitter.com/bbcnewsnight/status/1318638418021240833?s=21
Crimson Dynamo
14-11-2020, 08:36 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/13/21/35655032-8947601-image-a-55_1605301628018.jpg
[1991 Sutcliffe meets boxer Frank Bruno
and the late paedophile Jimmy Savile at Broadmoor.
The visit was set up by Savile, says Bruno]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8947601/How-Yorkshire-Ripper-cossetted-cost-10-MILLION.html
Great news for the victims families
But people pretend this never happens to assuage their consious
Well done
They feel good they don't support capital punishment
Jesus
There’s a dilemma wether to bury or cremate him ....
I vote both .. lets take no chances .
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There’s a dilemma wether to bury or cremate him ....
I vote both .. lets take no chances .
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Put his body up for auction..and donate the proceedings to charity...
Well in a bid to control infection, the outgoing Chief Inspector of Prisons told Newsnight recently that inmates have been kept in their cells for 23 hours a day
I find it highly concerning
https://twitter.com/bbcnewsnight/status/1318638418021240833?s=21Ah well, least they get an hour a day for exercise unlike our elderly relatives living in sheltered accommodation and care homes who have been confined to their own houses/rooms 24/7 for the last 8 months constantly, I know where my sympathy goes.
Jack_
15-11-2020, 12:01 AM
Ah well, least they get an hour a day for exercise unlike our elderly relatives living in sheltered accommodation and care homes who have been confined to their own houses/rooms 24/7 for the last 8 months constantly, I know where my sympathy goes.
Locking people in a small cell for 23 hours a day for 7 months is a recipe for disaster
It’s a recipe for disaster for elderly relatives and people living alone too for a multitude of reasons, but it’s really asking for trouble when it’s a bunch of prisoners
arista
15-11-2020, 06:38 AM
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GoldHeart
15-11-2020, 07:27 AM
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Says it all really !
Aaliyah
15-11-2020, 02:23 PM
A mate of my Dad's used to work at a local factory near here like on the gate and TYR was one of the regular delivery drivers, became a good acquaintance of his, always talked and what not when he brought the deliveries.
My Dad's mate remembers mentioning about the murders to him one time because he knew "Pete" was from that area. Creepy.
Of course your dad's friend knows all this lmao... are you ok hun
Aaliyah
15-11-2020, 02:25 PM
Ah well, least they get an hour a day for exercise unlike our elderly relatives living in sheltered accommodation and care homes who have been confined to their own houses/rooms 24/7 for the last 8 months constantly, I know where my sympathy goes.
I'd never put my elderly relatives in a home in the first place so I wouldn't need to worry about this. My great grandmother has all of her daughters taking turns to look after her in her own home and she's 93, so yeah. I don't like people who put relatives in a home
Crimson Dynamo
15-11-2020, 02:51 PM
I'd never put my elderly relatives in a home in the first place so I wouldn't need to worry about this. My great grandmother has all of her daughters taking turns to look after her in her own home and she's 93, so yeah. I don't like people who put relatives in a home
when a partner gets Alzheimers sometimes you have no choice
Tom4784
15-11-2020, 02:54 PM
Dezzy I know :rolleyes: , I'm just saying the rules and that still seem softer on prisoners. I'm not saying the UK should be as brutal as other prisons around the world.
But Its as if some criminals treat it like a casual place ,as so many of them are in and out without a care. Especially if they know they'll only be in there for a short while.
They get full meals, can even have access to courses , internet ,some even have the audacity to stream themselves in the cell laughing with a mobile phone that they shouldn't have !. They get given a chance to rehabilitate . Look at how many chances venebles got and he still abused it .
Some sickos should just stay in prison to rot like the Yorkshire ripper .
Granted of course it would be a hard time in prison, no I've never been so I can only imagine the trouble and nightmares some might face. I'm not saying it's a walk in the park for everyone.
But a lot of that is assumption, you're assuming people treat it like a camp that they 'go in and out of' and you use extreme examples like Venebles as an argument against rehabilitation and isntances of levity as evidence that it's all rosy in prison.
Prison, by all accounts, is hard enough as it is, we don't need to make it crueller just to satisfy our own armchair malice and we don't need to use the worst examples as a rule of thumb.
GoldHeart
15-11-2020, 03:36 PM
But a lot of that is assumption, you're assuming people treat it like a camp that they 'go in and out of' and you use extreme examples like Venebles as an argument against rehabilitation and isntances of levity as evidence that it's all rosy in prison.
Prison, by all accounts, is hard enough as it is, we don't need to make it crueller just to satisfy our own armchair malice and we don't need to use the worst examples as a rule of thumb.
It's not really an assumption though is it , and I didn't say everyone who gets locked up. I wasn't generalising ,I think maybe you've misinterpreted my post .
I used venebles as an example and why not ?, after all this thread is about another evil sicko who was beyond rehabilitation .
But I also mentioned other things like seeing videos of people laughing and filming literally from their cells without a care in the world .
Like I said I know prison isn't a walk in the park , and obviously it's going to affect you physically and mentally.
Just because I haven't experienced it myself doesn't mean I can't give my opinion on the matter :shrug: .
Niamh.
15-11-2020, 04:16 PM
I'd never put my elderly relatives in a home in the first place so I wouldn't need to worry about this. My great grandmother has all of her daughters taking turns to look after her in her own home and she's 93, so yeah. I don't like people who put relatives in a home
Not everyone has the ability or resources to look after an elderly relative who has alzeimer's or mobility issues. It's a bit naive to just assume every family could
AnnieK
15-11-2020, 04:22 PM
Not everyone has the ability or resources to look after an elderly relative who has alzeimer's or mobility issues. It's a bit naive to just assume every family could
Not to mention the medical knowledge to keep their loved ones safe and properly medicated.
I'd never put my elderly relatives in a home in the first place so I wouldn't need to worry about this. My great grandmother has all of her daughters taking turns to look after her in her own home and she's 93, so yeah. I don't like people who put relatives in a homeA lot of people have no choice due to the seriousness of the illness as well as many other reasons.
I think they have enough to concern them without being interested in whether you like them or not
Gusto Brunt
15-11-2020, 06:20 PM
Sick of hearing about this evil monster. Just dig a hole and throw him in it.
And stop printing stories about him!! Stop talking about him. :mad:
Kizzy
15-11-2020, 08:38 PM
Sick of hearing about this evil monster. Just dig a hole and throw him in it.
And stop printing stories about him!! Stop talking about him. :mad:
100% agree
GoldHeart
15-11-2020, 08:44 PM
A lot of people have no choice due to the seriousness of the illness as well as many other reasons.
I think they have enough to concern them without being interested in whether you like them or not
Yeah I agree with this .
It's probably one of the hardest decisions too for relatives to make about their loved ones. And I'm talking about the ones who actually still care about them and visit them .
Aaliyah
15-11-2020, 10:40 PM
Well in China care homes are pretty much unheard of because they have a culture of looking after parents
Kizzy
15-11-2020, 10:54 PM
There is a cultural difference we tend to fly the nest more here, there there be more help and support to have aged persons at home. Plus in a couple there is 2 sets of elderly parents potentially that's a tall order when you are working or living in a small house/flat.
I can understand those who for many reasons can't care for their parents alone, making that choice must be heartbreaking.
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