Adult Autism

[LeatherTrumpet]

Signs of autism in adults

Main signs of autism

Common signs of autism in adults include:


finding it hard to understand what others are thinking or feeling
getting very anxious about social situations
finding it hard to make friends or preferring to be on your own
seeming blunt, rude or not interested in others without meaning to
finding it hard to say how you feel
taking things very literally – for example, you may not understand sarcasm or phrases like "break a leg"
having the same routine every day and getting very anxious if it changes



Other signs of autism

You may also have other signs, like:


not understanding social "rules", such as not talking over people
avoiding eye contact
getting too close to other people, or getting very upset if someone touches or gets too close to you
noticing small details, patterns, smells or sounds that others do not
having a very keen interest in certain subjects or activities
liking to plan things carefully before doing them


Autism in women and men

Autism can sometimes be different in women and men.

For example, autistic women may be quieter, may hide their feelings and may appear to cope better with social situations.

This means it can be harder to tell you're autistic if you're a woman.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/autism/signs/adults/


There is a relatively simple online test you can take here:

https://www.clinical-partners.co.uk/for-adults/autism-and-aspergers/adult-autism-test

[Epic.]

Why did you feel the need to make this thread

[LeatherTrumpet]

Why did you feel the need to make this thread

I think its an interesting subject (in adults and not children) and i would be interested in peoples scores on the link. I scored 19 for example.

[Smithy]

I got 4

[Ammi]

...being assessed for autism is quite a lengthy process as it’s such a huge spectrum for diagnosis...I would personally be very sceptical of an ‘online assessment’ such as this...and it feels quite trivialising to me...

[joeysteele]

...being assessed for autism is quite a lengthy process as it’s such a huge spectrum for diagnosis...I would personally be very sceptical of an ‘online assessment’ such as this...and it feels quite trivialising to me...

This for me 100%
Well put Ammi.

[LeatherTrumpet]

...being assessed for autism is quite a lengthy process as it’s such a huge spectrum for diagnosis...I would personally be very sceptical of an ‘online assessment’ such as this...and it feels quite trivialising to me...

Clinical Partners is the UK's largest private mental health partnership and i am sure they put a lot of time and effort into the test.

If you have feedback about their work they would happily respond. YOu can contact them here: https://www.clinical-partners.co.uk/contact

[Cherie]

I got 5

[Marsh.]

I find it easy to imagine what characters from a book might look like

:suspect: Depends how good the writing is.

[Glenn.]

taking things very literally – for example, you may not understand sarcasm or phrases like "break a leg"

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[Nicky91]

taking things very literally – for example, you may not understand sarcasm or phrases like "break a leg"

:suspect:

what the ****, i have autism myself but i don't really want to take things that literally too often, which is why i am sarcastic quite a lot

[LeatherTrumpet]

There are currently no standard diagnostic criteria for adults with suspected ASD, but they are in development.

[Zizu]

:suspect:

what the ****, i have autism myself but i don't really want to take things that literally too often, which is why i am sarcastic quite a lot



It’s a complex subject for sure .

I still regard myself as Aspergers even though it is currently’ bracketed as coming under the ASD umbrella .

I rarely take things literally although it does happen on occasion.


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[Ammi]

...it’s important to give full context of sites when they’re being used...and not just clip a random sentence out of context...

https://www.healthline.com/health/autism-in-adults



There are currently no standard diagnostic criteria for adults with suspected ASD, but they are in development.


In the meantime, clinicians primarily diagnose adults with ASD through a series of in-person observations and interactions. They also take into consideration any symptoms the person reports experiencing.

If you’re interested in being evaluated for ASD, begin with your family doctor, who will evaluate you to be certain that there isn’t an underlying physical illness accounting for your behaviors. Your doctor may then refer you to a psychiatrist or psychologist for in-depth assessment.

The clinician will want to talk with you about any issues you have regarding communication, emotions, behavioral patterns, range of interests, and more. You’ll answer questions about your childhood, and your clinician might request to speak with your parents or other older family members to gain their perspectives about your lifelong behavior patterns.




.... ‘online’ is not something that can ever be used to diagnose something so complex...this really does completely trivialise ...

[AnnieK]

...it’s important to give full context of sites when they’re being used...and not just clip a random sentence out of context...

https://www.healthline.com/health/autism-in-adults



There are currently no standard diagnostic criteria for adults with suspected ASD, but they are in development.


In the meantime, clinicians primarily diagnose adults with ASD through a series of in-person observations and interactions. They also take into consideration any symptoms the person reports experiencing.

If you’re interested in being evaluated for ASD, begin with your family doctor, who will evaluate you to be certain that there isn’t an underlying physical illness accounting for your behaviors. Your doctor may then refer you to a psychiatrist or psychologist for in-depth assessment.

The clinician will want to talk with you about any issues you have regarding communication, emotions, behavioral patterns, range of interests, and more. You’ll answer questions about your childhood, and your clinician might request to speak with your parents or other older family members to gain their perspectives about your lifelong behavior patterns.




.... ‘online’ is not something that can ever be used to diagnose something so complex...this really does completely trivialise ...

I agree Ammi...I'm sure medical doctors who take years to qualify in medicine and then more time to specialise in a field are really pleased that a 5minute survey can diagnose you with suspected autism.

The survey itself is like a Facebook one to find out what Disney Princess you are most like

[LeatherTrumpet]

.... ‘online’ is not something that can ever be used to diagnose something so complex...this really does completely trivialise ...

Its not claiming to diagnose anything, no one has mentioned diagnosis and it clearly states this.

"The above 30 questions may be useful to understand if you are experiencing some of the common behaviours and thoughts associated with being on the Autistic Spectrum. The questions are based on an evidence-based screening tool – the Autism Spectrum Quotient – but are indicative only and do not form a formal diagnosis."

[LeatherTrumpet]

I agree Ammi...I'm sure medical doctors who take years to qualify in medicine and then more time to specialise in a field are really pleased that a 5minute survey can diagnose you with suspected autism.

The survey itself is like a Facebook one to find out what Disney Princess you are most like

The above 30 questions may be useful to understand if you are experiencing some of the common behaviours and thoughts associated with being on the Autistic Spectrum. The questions are based on an evidence-based screening tool – the Autism Spectrum Quotient – but are indicative only and do not form a formal diagnosis.

[Epic.]

I don't need to take the test cos I was already diagnosed :laugh:

[parmnion]

Hello spectrum..my ex and my sister ar convinced I am.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Hello spectrum..my ex and my sister ar convinced I am.

what was your score parmy?

[DouglasS]

I don't need to take the test cos I was already diagnosed :laugh:

Were you a child or an adult when you were diagnosed :wavey:

[parmnion]

what was your score parmy?

I stopped after 8...I will do it now and be honest.

[parmnion]

Before i do though I will be using the word "sometimes" or "in the past I did"

[parmnion]

In my head...

[Redway]

The average male is borderline autistic by default.

[parmnion]

7, I was on 5 before the woman's one started, maybe I'm an autistic lesbian deep down.

[LeatherTrumpet]

The average male is borderline autistic by default.

DO you think that is because males are more interested in "things" and females are more interested in people?

[parmnion]

I just saw the link..i thought it was just your questions

[Zizu]

DO you think that is because males are more interested in "things" and females are more interested in people?



That’s a very interesting point !!




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[Zizu]

I just saw the link..i thought it was just your questions



:)


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[LeatherTrumpet]

that’s a very interesting point !!




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its not my own its jordan petersons and i think its scientifically based as i recall

[Redway]

DO you think that is because males are more interested in "things" and females are more interested in people?

That's some of it, yeah. Without a doubt.

[Redway]

Plus the fact that certain autistic symptoms (esp. lack of empathy) are default masculine traits anyway.

[LeatherTrumpet]

plus the fact that certain autistic symptoms (esp. Lack of empathy) are default masculine traits anyway.

yes that is true

[parmnion]

13

Kinda what I knew...but I reckon if I answered for now I would be 11

[Owoaje1993]

Some of those situations are in dyspraxia

[LeatherTrumpet]

Some of those situations are in dyspraxia

How do you mean?

[Zizu]

I did the test .. waited .. nothing happened. Sorry

I seemed to select the top option for the vast majority of the questions and few were the very last option



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[Captain.Remy]

I once hired someone affected by Asperger syndrome. And to be honest, he really made a stunning job with repetitive tasks linked to statistics, analysis and performance indicators for a projet I was in charge of.
I had no problem hiring him, he was a sweet guy with a lot of humor and I got along with him very well. So clever and really had strong logical mindset. I would totally work with people with this condition again.

[Zizu]

Some of those situations are in dyspraxia



I think that’s because dyspraxia, dyslexia , dyscalculia and Aspergers each have many overlapping traits .. all come under ASD .


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[LeatherTrumpet]

I once hired someone affected by Asperger syndrome. And to be honest, he really made a stunning job with repetitive tasks linked to statistics, analysis and performance indicators for a projet I was in charge of.
I had no problem hiring him, he was a sweet guy with a lot of humor and I got along with him very well. So clever and really had strong logical mindset. I would totally work with people with this condition again.

:clap1:

[Zizu]

How do you mean?



Presume they are suggesting autism and dyspraxia share many similar traits .. which of course they will ...


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[Captain.Remy]

Also, I've learnt a lot about this condition, what people go through and how it affects their daily lives. It really takes guts and bravery to try to make something good out of it, go through high school and college and go find jobs without being discriminated. I loved that he knew who he is and was unapologetic about it so I am super grateful to have learnt about that.
He was sometimes "disconnected" and we laughed about it. Not that I wish I was the same, but really he gave no f!cks about most of the things we worry about :joker:

[Toy Soldier]

For example, autistic women may be quieter, may hide their feelings and may appear to cope better with social situations.


It is definitely different in girls but thus far, my daughter is actually the polar opposite of described, and of "classic autism" in general. Her mood is rarely "flat", she bounces between extremely happy/smiling/laughing/excitement and angry/upset/distressed - all very much worn on her sleeve. If she's feeling something, you'll know about it.

...being assessed for autism is quite a lengthy process as it’s such a huge spectrum for diagnosis...I would personally be very sceptical of an ‘online assessment’ such as this...and it feels quite trivialising to me...

...also contrary to this, she was diagnosed at her first paediatric assessment when she was 3, within about 15 minutes :joker:. She does have additional support needs though, mostly language-based at this point it seems, so that makes diagnosis much more straight forward.

[Toy Soldier]

A lot of the questions on the test are more like a test for introversion than a test for autism. They're not the same thing.

[Zizu]

It is definitely different in girls but thus far, my daughter is actually the polar opposite of described, and of "classic autism" in general. Her mood is rarely "flat", she bounces between extremely happy/smiling/laughing/excitement and angry/upset/distressed - all very much worn on her sleeve. If she's feeling something, you'll know about it.



...also contrary to this, she was diagnosed at her first paediatric assessment when she was 3, within about 15 minutes :joker:. She does have additional support needs though, mostly language-based at this point it seems, so that makes diagnosis much more straight forward.



I recall watching a 45 minute documentary on autistic babies !!

It was possibly about 10 yrs ago .

As I recall ( it’s all very vague ) there were about 8 of them in the study , they were about 12 months old and each one’s parents were BOTH autistic .

The only part I can remember clearly was that they all took turns to be placed in a high chair and were wired up so we could tell exactly what their eyes were focusing on ... they were then shown a series of clips of older children speaking to the camera ..

Anyways they ALL focussed on the the children’s MOUTHS rather than their eyes ..


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[Redway]

It is definitely different in girls but thus far, my daughter is actually the polar opposite of described, and of "classic autism" in general. Her mood is rarely "flat", she bounces between extremely happy/smiling/laughing/excitement and angry/upset/distressed - all very much worn on her sleeve. If she's feeling something, you'll know about it.

How old is she?

[Aaliyah]

I think its an interesting subject (in adults and not children) and i would be interested in peoples scores on the link. I scored 19 for example.

You think it's 'interesting' to play a game and discuss peoples conditions? Honestly this thread is sick and twisted... this is not up for discussion you are not autistic so stop bullying people & putting them down as though they're your experiment to divulge into

[Zizu]

You think it's 'interesting' to play a game and discuss peoples conditions? Honestly this thread is sick and twisted... this is not up for discussion you are not autistic so stop bullying people & putting them down as though they're your experiment to divulge into



I found it rather interesting to be fair.

Just a shame I can’t get a score as the flaming link freezes after I answer question 30 each time


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[Owoaje1993]

How do you mean?
For example verbal dyspraxia
finding it hard to understand what others are thinking or feeling
getting very anxious about social situations

Or knowing what to say but the wrong word or words come out along with knowing what to say but can’t get it out of your head

Dyspraxia ain’t autism but it’s a condition which makes people clumsy with coordination, brain, words and just in life but clever in their own way

[Marsh.]

For example verbal dyspraxia
finding it hard to understand what others are thinking or feeling
getting very anxious about social situations

Or knowing what to say but the wrong word or words come out along with knowing what to say but can’t get it out of your head

Dyspraxia ain’t autism but it’s a condition which makes people clumsy with coordination, brain, words and just in life but clever in their own way

Well, yeah, that's why it's important to get a proper assessment as there are lots of crossovers with other conditions.

[Zizu]

For example verbal dyspraxia
finding it hard to understand what others are thinking or feeling
getting very anxious about social situations

Or knowing what to say but the wrong word or words come out along with knowing what to say but can’t get it out of your head

Dyspraxia ain’t autism but it’s a condition which makes people clumsy with coordination, brain, words and just in life but clever in their own way



Oddly enough I seem to recall dyslexia , dyspraxia and Dyscalcula all being lumped together with Aspergers and ADHD under the ASD umbrella .
That was over 20 years ago though ..

I found these little snippets anyway ..

1) speech apraxia – a relatively rare disorder – affects up to 65 percent of children with autism.

2) Although Dyspraxia may occur in isolation, it frequently coexists with other conditions such as Aspergers Syndrome, Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD), Dyslexia, language disorders and social, emotional and behavioural impairments.





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[Cherie]

You think it's 'interesting' to play a game and discuss peoples conditions? Honestly this thread is sick and twisted... this is not up for discussion you are not autistic so stop bullying people & putting them down as though they're your experiment to divulge into

It's not a game, it's a healthy discussion, should we sweep disability under the carpet, its not the 1950s!

[Nicky91]

You think it's 'interesting' to play a game and discuss peoples conditions? Honestly this thread is sick and twisted... this is not up for discussion you are not autistic so stop bullying people & putting them down as though they're your experiment to divulge into

indeed

the part where he asked to want to know people's scores bit is not necessary and rude

[LeatherTrumpet]

indeed

the part where he asked to want to know people's scores bit is not necessary and rude

its entirely up to the person to do so or indeed post in the thread, its not set homework. nor is the subject taboo.

[Aaliyah]

indeed

the part where he asked to want to know people's scores bit is not necessary and rude

Thanks Nicky, I'll be honest I'm outraged!

[Niamh.]

I got 14

[parmnion]

:suspect:

what the ****, i have autism myself but i don't really want to take things that literally too often, which is why i am sarcastic quite a lot

You can also be rather nasty, is that your condition as well?

[Withano]

You think it's 'interesting' to play a game and discuss peoples conditions? Honestly this thread is sick and twisted... this is not up for discussion you are not autistic so stop bullying people & putting them down as though they're your experiment to divulge into

I think this is unfair, I don’t think anybody has been rude in this thread. Autism is commonly diagnosed nowadays but they were pretty sparse back when I was young and probably next to non-existent when LT was young (no offence).

The subject of adult autism is interesting because there’s probably millions of undiagnosed cases.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I think this is unfair, I don’t think anybody has been rude in this thread. Autism is commonly diagnosed nowadays but they were pretty sparse back when I was young and probably next to non-existent when LT was young (no offence).

The subject of adult autism is interesting because there’s probably millions of undiagnosed cases.


Thankyou Withano and you are right and that is precisely why i did.

[Redway]

Every male is essentially an undiagnosed autistic to be fair.

[Zizu]

I think this is unfair, I don’t think anybody has been rude in this thread. Autism is commonly diagnosed nowadays but they were pretty sparse back when I was young and probably next to non-existent when LT was young (no offence).



The subject of adult autism is interesting because there’s probably millions of undiagnosed cases.



Excellent take on things !!


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[Zizu]

Every male is essentially an undiagnosed autistic to be fair.



Indeed... in fact I feel sure there are a few of our fellow TIBB posters who tick an awful lot of boxes


I was born in the late 1950’s and I always knew I was different .. .. I just seemed to perceive things differently to everyone else .

I was lucky enough to attend a good school ,a grammar school yet I hated every single minute - it was a very difficult time for a loner like myself. It didn’t help that the teachers were strict and had high expectations .

Anyways, I often struggled with things others could do yet equally when the class were all having trouble I’d find that part relatively simple .

Turns out I was an extremely ‘visual’ learner .

It was a great relief in my 30’s to learn about autism and Asperger’s syndrome and suddenly have a reason to explain all my seemingly odd traits .



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[parmnion]

Lucky for most kids these days with conditions like these they have parents who now understand what it actually is.

The little ****, is no more..

Sadly.x

[LeatherTrumpet]

I find interesting as i have done a few of these online indicator test it mentions haircuts. All through my working career i have always commented on a person who has had their hair cut and for them to laugh and say omg you are the only person who noticed?

i never gave it a second thought

[Zizu]

I find interesting as i have done a few of these online indicator test it mentions haircuts. All through my working career i have always commented on a person who has had their hair cut and for them to laugh and say omg you are the only person who noticed?

i never gave it a second thought



It is one of the ‘traits’ ... interestingly noticing the small details in life of also an indication of intelligence ... which is reassuring ...

It may explain why I was such a brilliant sniper whilst playing Call of Duty2 multiplayer online :)


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[parmnion]

I find interesting as i have done a few of these online indicator test it mentions haircuts. All through my working career i have always commented on a person who has had their hair cut and for them to laugh and say omg you are the only person who noticed?

i never gave it a second thought




Lucky you didnt have aspergers or cancer Carol would be in for a shock on Monday morning.

[Natalie.]

I got 15

[LeatherTrumpet]

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[Zizu]

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She’s an amazing person for sure !!

There are some great documentaries about her to be found .. some great YouTube clips as well ..

She invented and built her own portable , wooden ‘restrainer’ after observing how sheep and cattle suddenly ‘relaxed’ as soon as they were clamped on farms before they were injected .

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[LeatherTrumpet]

She’s an amazing person for sure !!

There are some great documentaries about her to be found .. some great YouTube clips as well ..

She invented and built her own portable ‘restrainer’ after observing how sheep and cattle suddenly ‘relaxed’ as soon as they were clamped on farms before they were injected .

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what she did for slaughterhouses is amazing

[Zizu]

what she did for slaughterhouses is amazing



True .... incredible how she’s able almost put herself into the mind of the animals and then come up with improvements to the cattle welfare systems


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