Breaking News. Priti keeps job after enquiry.

[Kate!]

no further details as yet.

[Mitchell]

Good, bullying is never acceptable.

[Liam-]

It’s like 2020 is trying to redeem itself

[Oliver_W]

Whenever a POC is vocal they're called aggressive, and whenever a woman asserts herself she's called bossy.

She's clearly being victimised!!!

[GoldHeart]

It’s like 2020 is trying to redeem itself

If only Bojo can f off now

[Tom4784]

Whenever a POC is vocal they're called aggressive, and whenever a woman asserts herself she's called bossy.

She's clearly being victimised!!!

Imagine racebaiting in defense of a proven bully, yikes.

[Niamh.]

Whenever a POC is vocal they're called aggressive, and whenever a woman asserts herself she's called bossy.

She's clearly being victimised!!!

This is the woman who said that the UK should threaten Ireland with food shortages in order to get us to drop pushing for the backstop agreement? That isn't aggressive that's ignorant and quite frankly shameful considering the history there..........

[Mitchell]

Whenever a POC is vocal they're called aggressive, and whenever a woman asserts herself she's called bossy.

She's clearly being victimised!!!

What about the poor staff member she drove to attempt suicide? That is a victim, not her.

[joeysteele]

She is unlikely to go.

I had to shudder at Hancock saying she'd always been good to work with as to him.

That's what bullies are like, they seem like butter wouldn't melt around those who are equals or above them.
To those they see beneath them, that's when their bullying side comes out.
.it seems this PM and his government haven't a clue what bullying or unacceptable behaviour really is.

She should be out.
However I doubt she will be.

I just think she in any event comes across as not a nice individual.
She has deceived and lied to parliament and to her former Prime Minister directly in her previous position.

[GoldHeart]

I thought this was actually decided. But nope she's not going anywhere is she :bored:

[arista]

Johnson Says she has broken no rules.

Kate your title is wrong

[arista]

no further details as yet.

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[joeysteele]

Johnson Says she has broken no rules.

Kate your title is wrong

No point in having an inquiry at all then.
If he'll just overrule the findings and decide himself whether she has or not

Unbelievable.

Clearly the Con party is not going to respect the conclusions of this.
Which will set a very worrying agenda for the future.
Especially for any treated badly or bullied in a Con led workplace.

She should be out, instantly.
Her words would mean nothing to me, especially after this inquiry's conclusions too.

[Oliver_W]

What about the poor staff member she drove to attempt suicide? That is a victim, not her.

This is the woman who said that the UK should threaten Ireland with food shortages in order to get us to drop pushing for the backstop agreement? That isn't aggressive that's ignorant and quite frankly shameful considering the history there..........

Okay the sarcasm clearly didn't land :joker:

Yeah she's clearly pretty vile, I doubt she'd keep her position, let alone get it in the first place, under a reasonable PM.

[The Slim Reaper]

Like she keeps her Job.

Arista going full Cali high schooler.

[arista]

Arista going full Cali high schooler.


Breaking news : Kate Gets it Wrong

[The Slim Reaper]

Why is it when someone posts something you don't like, you spam massive pictures to get to the next page?

[Oliver_W]

Has anyone heard if she's keeping her job?

[arista]

Has anyone heard if she's keeping her job?


Yes All Media

[arista]

why is it when someone posts something you don't like, you spam massive pictures to get to the next page?


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[The Slim Reaper]

Has anyone heard if she's keeping her job?

Johnon sent a cabinet whatsapp message telling them to

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A normal government would have sacked her for the second time. We don't have a normal government.

[arista]

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[Jack_]

https://twitter.com/mrharrycole/status/1329751236074237952?s=21

This man is the Prime Minister :umm2:

[arista]

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Yes Carry on Sorting it all out.

[arista]

Why is it when someone posts something you don't like, you spam massive pictures to get to the next page?


You got them Deleted

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

Johnon sent a cabinet whatsapp message telling them to

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnRICL_XMAAXVKF?format=jpg&name=small

A normal government would have sacked her for the second time. We don't have a normal government.

I literally thought this was a joke :joker:

What the hell is going on with our government?

I bet Sunak will be PM within a year or two, he's basically the only one who doesn't regularly embarrass the sad shower.

[The Slim Reaper]

You got them Deleted

I didn't. I might report one post every 3 months at max, so I didn't get anything deleted. You do ruin discussions by spamming massive pics in sd threads though. People are missing out whole pages by having to skip past the spam.

[arista]

I didn't. I might report one post every 3 months at max, so I didn't get anything deleted. You do ruin discussions by spamming massive pics in sd threads though. People are missing out whole pages by having to skip past the spam.

They are Current Media Photos
not spam.

[The Slim Reaper]

They are Current Media Photos
not spam.

Then post them in picture threads, not discussion threads. It's spam when you're posting 5 pics on a page for no reason.

[arista]

You're overreacting Slim.


She has kept her Job.
That's the importance of this thread

[The Slim Reaper]

You're overreacting Slim.


She has kept her Job.
That's the importance of this thread

I'm not dude, it's just a mess in a discussion thread. Post 1 pic if you want but not multiple and constant pics over multiple pages that just end discussions as people lose track and stop reading all the posts. I think discussing how/why she has kept her job is the important factor, not seeing 474546546 massive pics of her on every page.

[arista]

Thread Title Now Correct

[joeysteele]

You're overreacting Slim.


She has kept her Job.
That's the importance of this thread

Not really.
The importance of this issue is whether it should be right for staff to be badly treated and/ or bullied in their workplace by a superior.

It seems from this, it's in order for Con superiors to do so towards those employed under them

Supporting that is not something I'd ever want to be identified with as to anyone doing so.
As this inquiry states this awful individual did.

No point of a Ministerial code or any inquiry's either if the PM can just brush it aside and do nothing.

Shocking that should be seen to be and IS.

[bots]

the fundamental point is that there is no point holding an inquiry if you are just going to ignore the conclusions. It makes a mockery of the whole process

[The Slim Reaper]

A tweet for everything

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[DouglasS]

Not the racist media and racist public coming after Priti

[joeysteele]

One of the most worrying things is she says it was unintentional as she didn't realise her behaviour was of a bullying or intimidating nature.

She's a government Minister for goodness sake.

However that can be an excuse from the worst kind of bullies, who say they didn't think they were being that bad.

She's a deceitful liar, proven by her former PM.
This Prime Minister's judgement is getting even worse from how bad it's been all through anyway.

[Tom4784]

The fact we've gone from cancelling LGBT anti-bullying programs to one of the most prominent political figures in the government having their bullying validated by the government in a matter of hours is grim.

She's an evil hypocritical twat who should not hold power.

The Tories applaud and stand for bullying it seems.

[Jack_]

The Nasty Party indeed

[DouglasS]

Why aren’t the BLM movement supporting Priti also for falling victim to people Potentially having micro aggressions and assuming her to be bullying when she is being a leader with force as a woman of colour.

Or because she’s Tory it doesn’t matter and she is guilty straight away

Seems the BLM is pick a choose for certain ethnicities

[Tom4784]

Why would a group protesting police brutality against black people be compelled to defend a proven bully? Why are you suggesting hypocrisy is at play when there's no parrellels beyond you just seeing two seperate skin colours and societal issues (and the fact that Priti is actually in the wrong) and saying 'lol, same thing xx.'

Honestly, 'Douglas', you're embarrassing yourself.

[arista]

The Nasty Party indeed


They are Not.


The Homeless are being put into Hotels

[DouglasS]

Why would a group protesting police brutality against black people be compelled to defend a proven bully? Why are you suggesting hypocrisy is at play when there's no parrellels beyond you just seeing two seperate skin colours and societal issues (and the fact that Priti is actually in the wrong) and saying 'lol, same thing xx.'

Honestly, 'Douglas', you're embarrassing yourself.

The usernames ‘Douglass’
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/member.php?u=98489

I’m just pointing out that people are only wanting her sacked because she’s Tory. When corbyn was under scrutiny for his actions and had returned to the party everyone on here was happy and glad he had returned to the party. Whereas everyone is wanting Priti sacked

[GoldHeart]

The usernames ‘Douglass’
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/member.php?u=98489

I’m just pointing out that people are only wanting her sacked because she’s Tory. When corbyn was under scrutiny for his actions and had returned to the party everyone on here was happy and glad he had returned to the party. Whereas everyone is wanting Priti sacked

FFS !
Because Corbyn was wrongly accused and demonized , STOP comparing the 2 , don't do that .

Maybe you should do a 5 minute research to actually see the destruction and harm Patel has caused .

[Zizu]

FFS !
Because Corbyn was wrongly accused and demonized , STOP comparing the 2 , don't do that .

Maybe you should do a 5 minute research to actually see the destruction and harm Patel has caused .



..... why was Corbyn so unpopular ??


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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

she upset a few snowflakes. it happens and we move forward

stronger

[Black Dagger]

Lmao aye let's defend the bully and call people snowflakes for not finding her actions above board.

You really will do anything won't you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[joeysteele]

I simply cannot stand her.
I've never liked her.

You cannot hold an inquiry then throw out it's findings.
The only conclusion has to be this PM is willing to.be totally soft on bullies and bullying.
For as long as she remains in post, there's no other conclusion to make as to Johnson.

I don't and never would support any bullying or a bully.
If she had a tenth of an ounce of decency, she'd resign.

[Braden]

she upset a few snowflakes. it happens and we move forward

stronger

How do you explain the member of staff who was driven to two suicide attempts in Patel's name? I'm sorry, LT, but I think this more serious than upsetting a few snowflakes.

[Beso]

Lmao aye let's defend the bully and call people snowflakes for not finding her actions above board.

You really will do anything won't you.

I bet they wouldn't celebrate if a tibb member got covid.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Ammi]

...the ministerial code is there for a reason.... “There must be no bullying and no harassment.”...that would be obvious and hoped for in any work place ....the findings were that the code was broken and that bullying did occur by Priti Patel...and yet an apology was accepted...it mocks their own system as well as those bullied when they should have felt and been protected....

[bots]

i view this like a final written warning. If her character is as it seems to be, it won't be long until she does it again, and this time people will record her doing it and it will be made publicly available. It's a matter of time

[joeysteele]

...the ministerial code is there for a reason.... “There must be no bullying and no harassment.”...that would be obvious and hoped for in any work place ....the findings were that the code was broken and that bullying did occur by Priti Patel...and yet an apology was accepted...it mocks their own system as well as those bullied when they should have felt and been protected....

Just totally agree again.

An apology was the most basic thing she had to do.
It doesn't stop there however.
If you've done wrong in your place of work and found to have done so.

Of course you will apologise once caught out.
It doesn't change the fact of other action taken against you however.

She should have resigned or been sacked.

She lost her last post for deceiving and lying to her then PM Theresa May.
This is likely a far worse incident than that.

Both within 3 years of each other too.

[arista]

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[Tom4784]

The usernames ‘Douglass’
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/member.php?u=98489

I’m just pointing out that people are only wanting her sacked because she’s Tory. When corbyn was under scrutiny for his actions and had returned to the party everyone on here was happy and glad he had returned to the party. Whereas everyone is wanting Priti sacked

Okay so you're defending bullying that drove someone to attempt suicide because the bully happens to be in a party you support, got it.

Corbyn is an irrelevant flop, we're talking about your endorsing bullying by supporting a vicious bully.

[Tom4784]

Imagine being so bereft of moral fibre or empathy that you brand people who are outraged about bullying that has led to suicide attempts snowflakes.

The tory party is a cult.

[Swan]

Imagine being so bereft of moral fibre or empathy that you brand people who are outraged about bullying that has led to suicide attempts snowflakes.

The tory party is a cult.

No it isn't dezzy don't be so dramatic.

[Tom4784]

No it isn't dezzy don't be so dramatic.

If you've got a counterpoint say it. Saying 'no it isn't', won't cut it.

People support the Tories no matter what, people vote against their own interests just to dance to Boris' tune, you've got people like LT branding people snowflakes in defense of a bully that drove someone to attempt suicide. I'm guessing a tory could stab someone in the face in public and as long as it was someone 'on the other side', tory supporters would cheer it on. It's a cult.

[DouglasS]

If you've got a counterpoint say it. Saying 'no it isn't', won't cut it.

People support the Tories no matter what, people vote against their own interests just to dance to Boris' tune, you've got people like LT branding people snowflakes in defense of a bully that drove someone to attempt suicide. I'm guessing a tory could stab someone in the face in public and as long as it was someone 'on the other side', tory supporters would cheer it on. It's a cult.

How ridiculous.

Stating tories would celebrate someone being stabbed in the face is incredibly stupid of you to say - and if that’s your reasoning for you likening the Tory party to a cult then that is incredibly weak :laugh:

How ridiculous to ask for a counter point when you are saying ridiculous and stupid sweeping statements, there is no need for a Counter point. Quoting your post in itself is a counterpoint in itself because it just highlights the unbacked up statements and ridiculous sweeping statements which are laughable

[arista]

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Well Daily Mirror Paper
she said "Sorry"

[Tom4784]

How ridiculous.

Stating tories would celebrate someone being stabbed in the face is incredibly stupid of you to say - and if that’s your reasoning for you likening the Tory party to a cult then that is incredibly weak :laugh:

How ridiculous to ask for a counter point when you are saying ridiculous and stupid sweeping statements, there is no need for a Counter point. Quoting your post in itself is a counterpoint in itself because it just highlights the unbacked up statements and ridiculous sweeping statements which are laughable

Honestly, you're proof of what I'm saying is true.

If you heard about someone being bullied to the point of suicide, would you defend the bully? Normally, probably not, but because Priti Patel is a tory, you're jumping to her defense out of party loyalty. You're responding to someone's suicide attempt by bringing up Corbyn, who has no relevance to this at all, to deflect.

You're perfectly okay with Priti Patel bullying someone to the point of suicide because she's a tory. You've not condemned her, you've not acknowledged what she's done, you've just leapt to her defense in the face of compelling evidence that she is a vicious bully.

[DouglasS]

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Well Daily Mirror Paper
she said "Sorry"

People make mistakes, and I imagine a large proportion of it is a culture thing.

A manager from India has seconded over to our workforce and she shouts at the team when things aren’t done - yes it’s not ideal, but she is not bullying us, it’s just how the company works in India and she has been taught that way - it’s the norm to get results, and she said corporate India works that way. She has no ill intentions and culturally that is what her workforce is like. She was shocked when we mentioned that isn’t how we work in the U.K.
She has absolutely no ill intent and is just trying to get the team to work hard and reach our goals, she was just bought up this way. Some people could say bullying but the majority of us know she has no ill will it malice and she just needs to adjust.

Priti comes from an Indian family and I reckon she is similar and has been bought up with a mix of Indian and U.K. culture. I doubt she means any harm which is why I don’t believe she is bullying. The U.K. as a whole are very sensitive. A large part of these bullying claims I would bet are due to just simple cultural differences and I reckon some people under Priti are not able to deal with other cultures and are quick to shout bully when really they need to learn people from different ethnicities will have been bought up with different cultures.

[Swan]

If you've got a counterpoint say it. Saying 'no it isn't', won't cut it.

People support the Tories no matter what, people vote against their own interests just to dance to Boris' tune, you've got people like LT branding people snowflakes in defense of a bully that drove someone to attempt suicide. I'm guessing a tory could stab someone in the face in public and as long as it was someone 'on the other side', tory supporters would cheer it on. It's a cult.

Just like you defending some members of BLM then when they're clearly in the wrong with their looting, destruction and destroying others livelihoods. They can't do wrong, right? It's all the rights fault, right? That would imply, going by your outlook that BLM is a cult?! Obviously it's not, just like being in favour of the Tory party doesn't make you a cult member!

People are entitled to defend her, doesn't make them a part of a cult! I mean she's obviously a cold hearted bitch, a ruthless woman lacking any real kind of empathy high up in the tory party, nothing new.

[Tom4784]

Just like you defending some members of BLM then when they're clearly in the wrong with their looting, destruction and destroying others livelihoods. They can't do wrong, right? It's all the rights fault, right? That would imply, going by your outlook that BLM is a cult?! Obviously it's not, just like being in favour of the Tory party doesn't make you a cult member!

People are entitled to defend her, doesn't make them a part of a cult! I mean she's obviously a cold hearted bitch, a ruthless woman lacking any real kind of empathy high up in the tory party, nothing new.

You should consider why you hate BLM so much to bring it up in every topic you can, it's a bit strange. BLM has nothing to do with this topic, and I don't blindly defend them. Stick to the topic, I know you're desperate to get one up on me at any cost but deflection will not work.

People are entitled to defend her, and I'm entitled to point out how flawed that is by suggesting they are only doing so because she's a tory and their sense of morality is clouded and overwritten by party loyalty. That is how opinions work, do you need me to explain, yet again, the ins and outs of what is an isn't an opinion? Because you're not arguing against what I'm saying, you're trying to argue against me saying it.

Nice downplaying of what she's done though. I don't see much acknowledgement of her bullying in this post, just acceptance that she is who she is because of her job. That's not condemnation, that's excusing her.

[Tom4784]

People make mistakes, and I imagine a large proportion of it is a culture thing.

A manager from India has seconded over to our workforce and she shouts at the team when things aren’t done - yes it’s not ideal, but she is not bullying us, it’s just how the company works in India and she has been taught that way - it’s the norm to get results, and she said corporate India works that way. She has no ill intentions and culturally that is what her workforce is like. She was shocked when we mentioned that isn’t how we work in the U.K.
She has absolutely no ill intent and is just trying to get the team to work hard and reach our goals, she was just bought up this way. Some people could say bullying but the majority of us know she has no ill will it malice and she just needs to adjust.

Priti comes from an Indian family and I reckon she is similar and has been bought up with a mix of Indian and U.K. culture. I doubt she means any harm which is why I don’t believe she is bullying. The U.K. as a whole are very sensitive. A large part of these bullying claims I would bet are due to just simple cultural differences and I reckon some people under Priti are not able to deal with other cultures and are quick to shout bully when really they need to learn people from different ethnicities will have been bought up with different cultures.

So now you're blaming indian culture for her being a bully and that people are just being 'very sensitive', tell that to the person who nearly killed themselves over what she did to them. Not only are you defending bullying, you're also making racist sweeping statements about a whole country just to defend one bully.

You lack empathy and the ability to see the forest for the trees, Priti Patel is a tory and you'll defend her to the death regardless of what she's done.

[DouglasS]

Honestly, you're proof of what I'm saying is true.

If you heard about someone being bullied to the point of suicide, would you defend the bully? Normally, probably not, but because Priti Patel is a tory, you're jumping to her defense out of party loyalty. You're responding to someone's suicide attempt by bringing up Corbyn, who has no relevance to this at all, to deflect.

You're perfectly okay with Priti Patel bullying someone to the point of suicide because she's a tory. You've not condemned her, you've not acknowledged what she's done, you've just leapt to her defense in the face of compelling evidence that she is a vicious bully.

Well firstly I would need to see the claims and evidence (I do not see any compelling evidence that Priti acted maliciously), and secondly determine what actually occurred. It may just be Priti’s management style - having come from India, a county with an extremely strict management style (shouting is the norm here) where people are held accountable if work is not complete. Yes it may be difficult to work under to but bully is a strong word

These claims may be completely exaggerated - so many people complain about their bosses to HR because they’re not performing well and therefore do not get rewarded whilst other colleagues do causing resentment and bitterness

[DouglasS]

So now you're blaming indian culture for her being a bully and that people are just being 'very sensitive', tell that to the person who nearly killed themselves over what she did to them. Not only are you defending bullying, you're also making racist sweeping statements about a whole country just to defend one bully.

You lack empathy and the ability to see the forest for the trees, Priti Patel is a tory and you'll defend her to the death regardless of what she's done.

I’m not blaming Indian culture - she is Indian she will have been bought up with Indian culture... Indian workforce culture is very strict, and involves a lot of shouting at management level as a way to encourage the team to work hard. They have absolutely no malice - it’s the way the majority of them have been bought Up. It’s a cultural difference, Priti was probably extremely shocked that some of her staff were even upset


I know as my work consists of about 40% Indian people..

[Swan]

You should consider why you hate BLM so much to bring it up in every topic you can, it's a bit strange. BLM has nothing to do with this topic, and I don't blindly defend them. Stick to the topic, I know you're desperate to get one up on me at any cost but deflection will not work.

People are entitled to defend her, and I'm entitled to point out how flawed that is by suggesting they are only doing so because she's a tory and their sense of morality is clouded and overwritten by party loyalty. That is how opinions work, do you need me to explain, yet again, the ins and outs of what is an isn't an opinion? Because you're not arguing against what I'm saying, you're trying to argue against me saying it.

Nice downplaying of what she's done though. I don't see much acknowledgement of her bullying in this post, just acceptance that she is who she is because of her job. That's not condemnation, that's excusing her.

I don't hate BLM and have never claimed to have hated it. If you call pointing out flaws 'hate' then as you often say, you're entitled to be wrong :)

Still doesn't make the Tory party and it's supporters a 'cult' .

By calling her a cold hearted bitch im downplaying her behaviour? Ok :laugh:

[Tom4784]

I don't hate BLM and have never claimed to have hated it. If you call pointing out flaws 'hate' then as you often say, you're entitled to be wrong :)

Still doesn't make the Tory party and it's supporters a 'cult' .

By calling her a cold hearted bitch im downplaying her behaviour? Ok :laugh:

I love it when people try to use my words against me, it never works because they don't understand the concept of context.

You're bringing up BLM in a thread completely unrelated to BLM, that says a lot.

Accepting bullying when people probably wouldn't normally on the grounds of the bully being a tory and then jumping to her defense to the point that, citing examples in this thread, that people are 'snowflakes' 'overly sensitive' and that her bullying is just basically 'indian culture' says it all really. If people will defend a person in power regardless of their actions then that is cultish behaviour. Don't like it, argue against it. You're still just saying 'lol, it's not!' and that won't get you anywhere.

You called her that and then basically said that it's 'nothing new' which is basically acceptance of the situation. Why can you call her a bitch so easily, yet sidestep acknowledging that she is a bully that almost drove someone to suicide?

[AnnieK]

I’m not blaming Indian culture - she is Indian she will have been bought up with Indian culture... Indian workforce culture is very strict, and involves a lot of shouting at management level as a way to encourage the team to work hard. They have absolutely no malice - it’s the way the majority of them have been bought Up. It’s a cultural difference, Priti was probably extremely shocked that some of her staff were even upset


I know as my work consists of about 40% Indian people..

I'm not sure its a culture thing. She was born, raised and educated in the UK so hasn't really experienced Indian "work culture". Obviously her home life experience could be different but she has worked for a long time in UK politics and so should know her behaviour was not suitable when shouting and swearing at staff. If you can't manage a team without resorting to verbal abuse and threats, you're not a good manager

[Tom4784]

Well firstly I would need to see the claims and evidence (I do not see any compelling evidence that Priti acted maliciously), and secondly determine what actually occurred. It may just be Priti’s management style - having come from India, a county with an extremely strict management style (shouting is the norm here) where people are held accountable if work is not complete. Yes it may be difficult to work under to but bully is a strong word

These claims may be completely exaggerated - so many people complain about their bosses to HR because they’re not performing well and therefore do not get rewarded whilst other colleagues do causing resentment and bitterness

If a full investigation resulting in Priti Patel being found guilty of bullying is not 'compelling evidence' then you aren't looking for evidence, you're looking for something to tell you what you want to hear.

The rest of this post is nothing more than downplaying of bullying and the defense of bullying itself, as well as basically saying 'she's indian, bullying is part of their culture!' Which is still downright racist.

[Swan]

I love it when people try to use my words against me, it never works because they don't understand the concept of context.

You're bringing up BLM in a thread completely unrelated to BLM, that says a lot.

Accepting bullying when people probably wouldn't normally on the grounds of the bully being a tory and then jumping to her defense to the point that, citing examples in this thread, that people are 'snowflakes' 'overly sensitive' and that her bullying is just basically 'indian culture' says it all really. If people will defend a person in power regardless of their actions then that is cultish behaviour. Don't like it, argue against it. You're still just saying 'lol, it's not!' and that won't get you anywhere.

You called her that and then basically said that it's 'nothing new' which is basically acceptance of the situation. Why can you call her a bitch so easily, yet sidestep acknowledging that she is a bully that almost drove someone to suicide?

Using a topical example is perfectly reasonable in any debate. I know you want people to think i 'hate' BLM, but i was just pointing out YOUR hypocrisy. You're basically saying - "because she's tory people can't see any wrong in her actions and will blindly support her no matter what" therefore making the torries and people who support them a cult, yes? Well i just pointed you do exactly the same with things you support. Blame others, or pretend the problem doesn't exist when they clearly do. So again, im just pointing your strikingly obvious hypocrisy!

I was pointing out that nothing really changed in the tory party, still cold hearted at it's core. Im not even defending her and you're trying to argue me, just strange!

[Tom4784]

Using a topical example is perfectly reasonable in any debate. I know you want people to think i 'hate' BLM, but i was just pointing out YOUR hypocrisy. You're basically saying - "because she's tory people can't see any wrong in her actions and will blindly support her no matter what" therefore making the torries and people who support them a cult, yes? Well i just pointed you do exactly the same with things you support. Blame others, or pretend the problem doesn't exist when they clearly do. So again, im just pointing your strikingly obvious hypocrisy!

I was pointing out that nothing really changed in the tory party, still cold hearted at it's core. Im not even defending her and you're trying to argue me, just strange!

You still can't say that she's a bully, huh? So strange. Why is that? Why can't you simply say 'Priti Patel is a bully'?

There's no hypocrisy here, you're desperate to get one over on me by bringing up something irrelevant. Like always, you can't argue against what I'm saying so you're bringing up random things and incorrect statements just to stay in the game.

Stick to the topic, your obsession with bringing BLM into everything has no relevance to Priti Patel.

[Nicky91]

it's ok that Boris has a good sense of loyalty to his government, but Priti i guess was in the wrong, and should've been sacked from her job

[Swan]

You still can't say that she's a bully, huh? So strange. Why is that? Why can't you simply say 'Priti Patel is a bully'?

There's no hypocrisy here, you're desperate to get one over on me by bringing up something irrelevant. Like always, you can't argue against what I'm saying so you're bringing up random things and incorrect statements just to stay in the game.

Stick to the topic, your obsession with bringing BLM into everything has no relevance to Priti Patel.

What is wrong with you?

[Tom4784]

What is wrong with you?

So nothing to say in return except gaslighting? Thought so.

Also, you are still not admitting that Priti Patel is a bully despite an independent investigation stating she is just that, a bully.

[Cherie]

I suspect she still has a job due to the colour of her skin :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

New Labour was built on Campbell's bullying of staff and media as i recall?

[DouglasS]

a full investigation resulting in Priti Patel being found guilty of bullying is not 'compelling evidence' then you aren't looking for evidence, you're looking for something to tell you what you want to hear.

The rest of this post is nothing more than downplaying of bullying and the defense of bullying itself, as well as basically saying 'she's indian, bullying is part of their culture!' Which is still downright racist.

I would say exactly the same about the court trial between Johnny Depp and The Sun / Amber Heard :). You didn’t seem to view the court decision as evidence at all. You seem to pick and choose when you are going to use ‘evidence’ as part of your argument in order to fit your own beliefs

[arista]

She has said Sorry

Case Closed.

[Denver]

She has said Sorry

Case Closed.

My attorney when my job try sacking me for slapping a Karen

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1330224074606456841/FhmaPlJ-?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

The PSC will deal with her.

[joeysteele]

She has said Sorry

Case Closed.

I don't think it is arista.

There's a growing number of Con MPs not too pleased at how this is being seen.

I don't think this is ended at all.

[Black Dagger]

She has said Sorry

Case Closed.

No

[Crimson Dynamo]

we need strong leaders
not hand wringers

[Tom4784]

I would say exactly the same about the court trial between Johnny Depp and The Sun / Amber Heard :). You didn’t seem to view the court decision as evidence at all. You seem to pick and choose when you are going to use ‘evidence’ as part of your argument in order to fit your own beliefs

Except you completely got the wrong end of the stick about what that case was for and what it meant and thus the conclusion you've drawn is completely wrong, it's hilarious when someone is so smug yet so wrong.

It was a libel trial to decide whether Johnny Depp had actually hit Amber Heard, there was evidence he had but my argument in that thread was always that the situation was more complicated than that, the trial wasn't a domestic abuse trial, it was a trial to establish one fact and whether a newspaper committed libel or not. They hadn't in regards to Depp hitting Heard but the situation was more complicated than just that given the evidence that came to light about Heard's abuse and general psychotic behaviour. My argument was less about the results of the trial and more about the domestic abuse itself, which you would have known if you actually knew the first thing you were talking about.

Also an independent investigation is a completely different thing to a trial, which shouldn't really have to be said... But then again you are defending a bully that pushed someone to attempt suicide and you've smeared an entire race of people to do it so I can't expect too much of you.

But again, like you bringing up BLM, Depp has absolutely nothing to do with Priti Patel, and you're just trying and failing to lash out at me because you have absolutely no argument against what I'm saying. A libel trial is not an investigation and I'm not denying the result of the libel trial. You, on the other hand, refuse to accept what doesn't go with your narrative and that's as clear as day. You can try to project that onto me, but I'll blow that argument up every time.

[Tom4784]

Imagine being so indoctrinated that you think bullying someone to the point of suicide is being a 'strong leader'.

[Beso]

Sack her.

[DouglasS]

we need strong leaders
not hand wringers

:clap1:

[DouglasS]

Except you completely got the wrong end of the stick about what that case was for and what it meant and thus the conclusion you've drawn is completely wrong, it's hilarious when someone is so smug yet so wrong.

It was a libel trial to decide whether Johnny Depp had actually hit Amber Heard, there was evidence he had but my argument in that thread was always that the situation was more complicated than that, the trial wasn't a domestic abuse trial, it was a trial to establish one fact and whether a newspaper committed libel or not. They hadn't in regards to Depp hitting Heard but the situation was more complicated than just that given the evidence that came to light about Heard's abuse and general psychotic behaviour. My argument was less about the results of the trial and more about the domestic abuse itself, which you would have known if you actually knew the first thing you were talking about.

Also an independent investigation is a completely different thing to a trial, which shouldn't really have to be said... But then again you are defending a bully that pushed someone to attempt suicide and you've smeared an entire race of people to do it so I can't expect too much of you.

But again, like you bringing up BLM, Depp has absolutely nothing to do with Priti Patel, and you're just trying and failing to lash out at me because you have absolutely no argument against what I'm saying. A libel trial is not an investigation and I'm not denying the result of the libel trial. You, on the other hand, refuse to accept what doesn't go with your narrative and that's as clear as day. You can try to project that onto me, but I'll blow that argument up every time.

This literally describes you in serious debates..

[Crimson Dynamo]

This literally describes you in serious debates..

:clap2:

[Tom4784]

This literally describes you in serious debates..

So we reached the point where you ignore what I'm saying just to go in for a baseless 'I know you are, but what am I?' insult because you can't think of anything else to say but you aren't mature enough to put your hands up and admit it.

[Tom4784]

:clap2:

You are supporting the act of bullying someone to the point of suicide because blind loyalty to a party has dulled your sense of morality, if you actually ever had one.

[Swan]

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[DouglasS]

Very heartfelt apology by miss Patel (probably to please the media as Boris has already overruled the report stating no bullying took place)

People are very sensitive now that you probably can’t be a direct boss otherwise it could be deemed as bullying

[Tom4784]

'I'm sorry for my actions, they were wrong and I can only beg for forgiveness and learn from my mistakes' is an example of an apology. 'I'm sorry my behaviour upset people' is not an apology. It's a refusal to accept that your actions weren't wrong, just that it 'upset' other people, which is minimisation.

She obviously doesn't give a **** that her actions almost led to a person's death, because she's got out of it scott free because Boris threw the case out because truth doesn't matter to the Tories, nor does it matter to the tory cult that is their supporters who refuse to acknowledge the facts because it doesn't fit with their narrative.

Gross, Tories and their supporters seem to have a sociopathic lack of empathy or morality to take the side of a bully that almost drove someone to suicide.