Just tory things...

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55057126

England's education secretary acted unlawfully in scrapping a string of legal protections for children in care, Appeal Court judges have ruled.

They said Gavin Williamson should have consulted England's children's commissioner and other groups, before scrapping 65 safeguards for children.

The court said consulting such bodies would have been "manifestly in the interest of vulnerable children".

The government says it is disappointed by the ruling.

'Substantial changes'
Children's rights group Article 39 mounted the challenge against what it called a "bonfire of children's rights" after the government changed the rules safeguarding children through the Adoption and Children (Coronavirus) (Amendment) regulations in April.

Parliament did not debate the changes which were introduced in April.

The legal challenge came after a lengthy battle between the government, peers, opposition MPs and children's rights groups over attempts to push through the changes which cover the rights to support for children in care. The High Court previously ruled in the government's favour.

Government challenged on children's rights
Ministers' U-turn over children's rights
'Bonfire of children's rights' opposed
The regulations affected included legal timescales for social-worker visits to children in care, six-monthly reviews of children's welfare, independent scrutiny of children's homes and senior officer oversight of adoption decision-making for babies and children.

The protections affected also cover disabled children having short breaks and children in care sent many miles away from home.

The government had argued in an earlier court hearing that these changes were "minor bureaucratic burdens", but the Appeal Court said the alterations to children's rights were "substantial and wide-ranging".

After the government review of the legislation was begun in February, Department for Education officials had private telephone, email and face-to-face conversations with adoption agencies, private providers and local government bodies.

'One-sided'
But bodies representing children and young people affected by the changes were not consulted, and the children's commissioner - the statutory protector of children's issues - was not informed until after the changes went through.

Announcing the ruling, Lord Justice Baker said: "I can find nothing about the circumstances that existed in March 2020 to justify the secretary of state's decision (if indeed any conscious decision was made) to exclude the children's commissioner and other bodies representing the rights of children in care from the consultation on which he embarked.

"He decided to undertake a rapid informal consultation, substantially by email."

'Potentially misleading'
He said he found it appropriate for the consultation to be carried out that way because of the circumstances of the start of the coronavirus pandemic.

"But having decided to undertake the consultation, there was no good reason why that process should not have included the children's commissioner and the other bodies," he said.

"On the contrary, there were very good reasons why they should have been included."

Lord Baker said it was "potentially misleading" for the government to claim their actions were "broadly endorsed by the sector".

The children's commissioner for England, Anne Longfield, said she would be seeking urgent assurances from the DfE that this would not be repeated in future.

Carolyne Willow, director of Article 39, called the government's actions "shameful, both in the scale of the protections they took away from very vulnerable children in England and the way they went about it".

"This should draw to a close back-room, secret government consultations which exclude the rights , views and experiences of children and young people."

A DfE spokesman said: "Protecting vulnerable children has been at the heart of our response to the Covid-19 pandemic, and our intention has always been to act in their best interests.

"We took swift action to bring in temporary changes during a national crisis, all of which have now expired.

"We will continue working with the Children's Commissioner and children's charities to provide the best possible support to vulnerable children."

[arista]

Yes an Error
soon to be corrected

[Ammi]

...it wasn’t an error, Arista...it was a purposeful act and found to be unlawfully done because it went through an Appeals Court...that isn’t ‘an error and correction’....to have a ruling from a court that it was unlawful...

[joeysteele]

...it wasn’t an error, Arista...it was a purposeful act and found to be unlawfully done because it went through an Appeals Court...that isn’t ‘an error and correction’....to have a ruling from a court that it was unlawful...

It certainly wasn't just an error.
You are right Ammi.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

Well done Carole.

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[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Mystic Mock]

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The Cock Inn.:laugh3:

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No we are not Bankrupt

[The Slim Reaper]

No we are not Bankrupt

It's a rhetorical question.

[Kizzy]

I'd like an explanation as to why we aren't... Are we only bankrupt if the tories say so?

[The Slim Reaper]

A national front poster from the 70's that is basically the tory manifesto.
But of course, the guy who wanted to ask the uber wealthy to pay a bit more in taxes was the extremist.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoePDfgXcAMGL92.jpg

[Stu]

Bit flustered...

https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1335682093167341570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1335682093167341570%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fukff.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3 Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps% 3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FSimonClarkeMP%2Fstatus%2F133 5682093167341570%3Fs%3D20

[arista]

Bit flustered...

https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1335682093167341570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1335682093167341570%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fukff.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3 Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps% 3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FSimonClarkeMP%2Fstatus%2F133 5682093167341570%3Fs%3D20



Yes at least no swear words

[arista]

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Look Fella, your sign is not good
for kids

[arista]

For Slim.

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[The Slim Reaper]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1380472/constituency-conservative-chairman-gareth-bairnes-resignation

Tory chief resigns after claiming A&E full of 'fat mums' with 'snot-covered Asbo' children

A TORY chief has resigned after claiming A&E departments were full of "fat mums in Pot Noodle-stained leggings" with their "snot-covered Asbo" children.

Constituency Conservative chairman Gareth Baines claimed women were taking their children into hospital to gain sympathetic “Facebook likes”. Mr Baines later apologised and quit as a chairman of the Clwyd South Conservative Association after several tweets about the NHS. But he remains a councillor.

In one message on New Year’s Eve, Mr Baines wrote: “A&Es in Germany aren’t full of fat mums in Pot Noodle-stained leggings/PJs taking their kids for a day out at A&E to harvest Facebook likes because their darling little snot-covered Asbo fell over.”

In another post, he said: “Our NHS is treated as a sacred cow and cannot be criticised.

“Those arguing for reform are deemed to be Satan incarnate. I’m sorry, but after spending most of my life working on the continent, the NHS isn’t the best in the world – it isn’t one of the best in Europe. Pales when compared with *systems like Germany and Norway.”

Mr Baines – who claims to have an honorary doctorate in business administration – has not quit his role as a councillor representing Chirk Town Council, near Wrexham in North Wales. He later claimed that his comments had been “taken out of *context”.

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Mr Baines acted as an agent for Clwyd South MP Simon Baynes in the 2019 election and rival politicians urged him to take action.

Former Lib Dem council *candidate Aimi Waters wrote to Mr Baynes, saying: “As I’m sure you have recently seen on social media, the chair of our local Conservative group in Clwyd South, Mr Gareth Baines, has made some very *unsavoury remarks about mothers and their children in A&E waiting rooms.

“Whilst I understand you cannot possibly comment on certain things, and you cannot control what someone else does, you are able to comment on a member of the local Conservative group – a member who is relatively high *profile and actually represents people in the community too.”

The Welsh Labour Party said: “This is terrible and shows what he really thinks about the people who use the NHS.”

Mr Baines said in a statement: “Whilst I feel my comments have been taken out of context, I do offer my sincere apologies for any offence they may have caused.

“I have also taken the decision to step down from my role as chairman of Clwyd South Conservative Association with immediate effect.”

[The Slim Reaper]

He didn't want any part of broadband communism

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[arista]

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[Tom4784]

The tories love to go out of their way to prove they are rancid rotting ***** at every opportunity, don't they?

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[Withano]

Countdown to Tibb-tories linking love messages from the daily mail...

[Marsh.]

Countdown to Tibb-tories linking love messages from the daily mail...

:joker:

[arista]

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It was Hancocks
mate in the Pub.
Got a Money Contract.


Thats criminal

[arista]

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Yes Smile Away
you ponce criminal

[The Slim Reaper]

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[hijaxers]

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They don't give a toss ~ rather starve children and milk the tax payers.

[The Slim Reaper]

They don't give a toss ~ rather starve children and milk the tax payers.

Stop voting tory then :laugh:

[hijaxers]

Stop voting tory then :laugh:

I never have in my life so don't jump to conclusions Thankyou

[Cherie]

I never have in my life so don't jump to conclusions Thankyou

Slim thinks everyone votes Tory apart from himself :hee:

[hijaxers]

Slim thinks everyone votes Tory apart from himself :hee:

Well Slim is bang out of order and on my sick list !

[Kizzy]

Slim thinks everyone votes Tory apart from himself :hee:

And me...you forgot me, I don't. I think he knows this. I try to keep my political affiliation under wraps as you know too :)

[arista]

Sir Christopher Chope OBE MP. Putney London.
Is Stupid.
On a panel on Times Radio DAB & Free Internet
he thinks Covid-19 is like the Flu.
Thinks we can go back to Normal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Chope


Polly Toynbee also on the panel.

[The Slim Reaper]

Well Slim is bang out of order and on my sick list !

Apologies, Hj. Mixed you up with your dearest.

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[hijaxers]

Apologies, Hj. Mixed you up with your dearest.

He don't vote Tory either !!

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[Withano]

He don't vote Tory either !!

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[The Slim Reaper]

Perfectly normal and definitely not a sign of creeping fascism.

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[bots]

yeah, thats not right

[Cherie]

Perfectly normal and definitely not a sign of creeping fascism.

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that is crazy, it is in the public interest and we pay their salaries

[Tom4784]

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[GiRTh]

Perfectly normal and definitely not a sign of creeping fascism.

1417508633995268099There were a few more posts regarding this tweet. I wonder where they've gone? :shrug:

This is Boris' Britain. This tweet doesnt surprise me at all.

[Ammi]

Perfectly normal and definitely not a sign of creeping fascism.

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…that ‘creeping’ has surely been some thing that has been ongoing for quite a while…with the policing bill it’s a similar thing with the rights to peaceful protest being restricted and some people are quite anti protest, so the ‘creeping’ is very staged and designed to start its steps with things that will raise less reaction and more compliance, type thing …I mean peaceful protest is a pain anyway, right…?..but that kind of diverts from the control that is being exercised and the freedoms that are being curbed…we can’t pick and choose those freedoms that we’re ok with being restricted because that control isn’t ours…


…meanwhile, we’re all diverted with U turns and Z turns and whatever screens they’ve put in front of us….which is all part of the game…

[Ammi]

…I sound so conspiracy…:laugh:…’Boris’ Britain’….I like that, GiRTh….I mean I don’t like it…:laugh:…not one bit but it is quite apt….

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[Ammi]

….it’s been so easy to ‘creep past’ us with certain changes when we’ve all been distracted with COVID….

[The Slim Reaper]

….it’s been so easy to ‘creep past’ us with certain changes when we’ve all been distracted with COVID….

It's far simpler than that - most wouldn't care even if covid hadn't happened.

[Ammi]

It's far simpler than that - most wouldn't care even if covid hadn't happened.

…it’s interesting how it can come to this with a free and Democratic society and their leadership …is it that there is ‘no alternative’ as someone said to me recently, as in we can’t imagine Labour votes ever gaining the leadership…and there is no ‘middle grounds and more central’ party anymore as we once had with the Liberals….it’s quite an interesting…(…and not in any good way..)….psychology, I’m going to find some articles to read up on…

[Ammi]

…but these must be times..(…the pandemic…)…that a hugely explored in politics to hide many things behind their distraction….while a nation’s eyes are anxiously diverted….?…

[The Slim Reaper]

…it’s interesting how it can come to this with a free and Democratic society and their leadership …is it that there is ‘no alternative’ as someone said to me recently, as in we can’t imagine Labour votes ever gaining the leadership…and there is no ‘middle grounds and more central’ party anymore as we once had with the Liberals….it’s quite an interesting…(…and not in any good way..)….psychology, I’m going to find some articles to read up on…

Moral centre is a bit of a misnomer. There was a candidate at the last election offering to invest in communities and the NHS, to make sure that children wouldn't go hungry, and was called a communist by the BBC (the lefty channel - yeah right) for offering free broadband just before pandemic hit making broadband an essential.

Until the media is tackled in this country then the only way labour will get in will be when eventually even the media have enough of the tories and can't ignore the scandals. It will be a Murdoch backed tory-lite labour leader offering nothing that will get in, so Starmer is actually the right candidate for the tories to put in, just at the wrong time.

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Yes Slim
he is now long gone
dirty devil

[Tireur]

Stop voting tory then :laugh:

Just out of curiosity, if the Conservatives are so bad, why do they keep winning elections?
FYI, I’ve never set out to try to elect a Tory candidate, my wife and I have always voted for whoever might prevent the Labour candidate winning.

[user104658]

Just out of curiosity, if the Conservatives are so bad, why do they keep winning elections?

I could write a several thousand word essay on this but you know at the end of the day it just boils down to a couple of simple things so I'm just going to say it as that;

The "average member of the general public" is thick as **** and easily hoodwinked. And secondly, there is currently no viable alternative.

[Tireur]

I could write a several thousand word essay on this but you know at the end of the day it just boils down to a couple of simple things so I'm just going to say it as that;

The "average member of the general public" is thick as **** and easily hoodwinked. And secondly, there is currently no viable alternative.

Okay, I’ll bow to your superior knowledge of the intelligence of the U.K. electorate, but would it then follow that they weren’t so easily ‘hoodwinked’ by Labour in the run up to the elections of 2010, 2015, and 2017, prior to Bojo winning in 2019?
Or was there no viable alternative in those years either?
I reiterate, I’ve never voted Conservative in a G.E., but I did vote Tory in the last Mayoral race in London, in a vain effort to keep Khan out.

[Beso]

I could write a several thousand word essay on this but you know at the end of the day it just boils down to a couple of simple things so I'm just going to say it as that;

The "average member of the general public" is thick as **** and easily hoodwinked. And secondly, there is currently no viable alternative.

I doubt the people you refer to even vote.

[bots]

the labour party are too big, they try and represent too wide a spectrum of political views. The public know this and don't trust them from whatever political preference they have.

There is a reason Starmer doesn't have a set of policies. To generate them would expose that labour just don't agree, and he doesn't have the power to dictate what policies will be followed. Meanwhile a small group of tories ... actually less than a handful, can set the tory agenda, set the public messaging and then the vast majority of tory mp's fall into line.

That is the reason tories can basically do anything they want

[Oliver_W]

the labour party are too big, they try and represent too wide a spectrum of political views. The public know this and don't trust them from whatever political preference they have.

There is a reason Starmer doesn't have a set of policies. To generate them would expose that labour just don't agree, and he doesn't have the power to dictate what policies will be followed. Meanwhile a small group of tories ... actually less than a handful, can set the tory agenda, set the public messaging and then the vast majority of tory mp's fall into line.

That is the reason tories can basically do anything they want

Why would he develop a set of policies when the next General is like three years away and there hasn't been a Conference since he became leader?

[user104658]

Okay, I’ll bow to your superior knowledge of the intelligence of the U.K. electorate, but would it then follow that they weren’t so easily ‘hoodwinked’ by Labour in the run up to the elections of 2010, 2015, and 2017, prior to Bojo winning in 2019?
Or was there no viable alternative in those years either?
I reiterate, I’ve never voted Conservative in a G.E., but I did vote Tory in the last Mayoral race in London, in a vain effort to keep Khan out.

Labour hasn't been a viable opposition since Blair.

And the "hoodwinking" depends largely on the press and propaganda - for example, Blair got Murdoch on-side in the 90's, thus 10 years of New Labour.

It's a bit more complicated now because of how heavily Social Media affects public mindset but, largely, the press can still steer that too.

[bots]

Why would he develop a set of policies when the next General is like three years away and there hasn't been a Conference since he became leader?

because he needs to present an alternative vision, and spend the years between elections publicising it and getting people used to it. There has been a conference. At the moment labour are singularly ineffective

[user104658]

the labour party are too big, they try and represent too wide a spectrum of political views. The public know this and don't trust them from whatever political preference they have.

There is a reason Starmer doesn't have a set of policies. To generate them would expose that labour just don't agree, and he doesn't have the power to dictate what policies will be followed. Meanwhile a small group of tories ... actually less than a handful, can set the tory agenda, set the public messaging and then the vast majority of tory mp's fall into line.

That is the reason tories can basically do anything they want

Yes Labour is split between left-of-centrism, 20th century socialism, and identity politics-based progressivism.

On a whole plethora of issues - the ideologies barely overlap.

Of course the Tories have factions too but they're all largely rooted in Conservatism/disdain for the poor as an ideology so despite some in-fighting they can still come together on the big issues.

We need a proper, modern, sensible centre-left party that isn't bogged down in ****ing nonsense... or it's Tories forever.

[joeysteele]

Why would he develop a set of policies when the next General is like three years away and there hasn't been a Conference since he became leader?

Exactly.
No one can predict the situation or policies needed without full accurate information.

It makes me laugh when you have the present government and its supporters, screaming for the opposition's policies.

When this lot have been talking about social care policy for years with still not a scrap of detail on them.
Plus across the board this government is only now starting to look at its own policies and deciding to even scrap manifesto commitments in the last election, not even yet 2 years ago.

So the folly of presenting policy now by the opposition in this uncertainty would be a likely pointless exercise.

I do think Starmer needs to present a stronger vision.
However policy is decided at Party conference, once one is held again.
By and large the Labour Party is a kind of grand coalition party.
Without the more heartless elements of the current Con Party and its leadership.

Overall policy once decided is accepted by Labour MPs and the members..
As in 2017, when for the sake of around 20 less seats for the Cons, an even grander coalition could have been the government.

The Cons saved by the DUP of Northern Ireland.

You are correct the election is likely at least 2 years off.
So what is the point of creating derailed policies, when as you agree too, there's not been a full and proper conference too.

While we have the present government, changing its own policies from the manifesto, making new policies now.
Having to alter course on several areas, yet they have the full information and projections to hand.

They're struggling to come up with right and relevant policies even as the government.

How can the oppositions, all other opposition parties, come up with real and rigid policymaking at this time as you say.

One I would throw into the pot myself however is for the Labour party to adopt PR for all elections after the next one.
Take the narrative away from the Cons and adopt one that the Cons and two thirds of their supporters would never want.

As the Con party would then be the only party standing in elections who were solidly against PR.

Because yes, no party would likely ever win absolute power alone again.
However that would remove any party like this Con party, only getting around 40% of the actual votes cast..
However to then able to, with a massive 80 overall majority to just dismiss the near 60% who voted against them.

[Oliver_W]

Yes Labour is split between left-of-centrism, 20th century socialism, and identity politics-based progressivism.



It's ridiculous that a major party even touches the latter, while the former benefits virtually everyone (as long as they're not using ridiculously high taxes). Identity politics on the other hand easily dissolves into divisive Marxist-flavoured extremism, where the Oppressor is the straight white man (regardless of his economic status), and everyone else is the Oppressed.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's ridiculous that a major party even touches the latter, while the former benefits virtually everyone (as long as they're not using ridiculously high taxes). Identity politics on the other hand easily dissolves into divisive Marxist-flavoured extremism, where the Oppressor is the straight white man (regardless of his economic status), and everyone else is the Oppressed.

What does the bit in bold actually mean? You do realise that Marxism is primarily about the rights of workers versus capitalistic abuses? Which you then go on to completely miss in the following line.

The problem with this centrism is amazing nonsense, is that the centre has now been pushed so far to the right by society and the rise of the right across the world, that centrism will not address any of the inequalities now faced, enabling the right to get straight back in.

People have been zombied into believing that money for things society needs is impossible, but we watch the government throw money at their friends. I'm not even talking solely about tories here as new labour were just as much into cronyism too. Capita - the biggest government services company around, all built on the back of the owners £1m donation to Blair.

It's a lot easier to pretend you're on a mountain looking down at everyone else being wrong and misguided from the centre, but let's see what this mythical centre-leftism has to offer, and I guarantee it'll be a lot closer to Cameron, than anything progressive like the NHS, paying nurses, addressing climate etc.

When a politician is called a communist for wanting free broadband for all, then you know it's not about ideas or policies at this stage, its status quo.

[Mystic Mock]

Someone got called a Communist for wanting free Broadband for everyone?

Shouldn't that be called a reasonable request?:laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Someone got called a Communist for wanting free Broadband for everyone?

Shouldn't that be called a reasonable request?:laugh:

Lefty BBC, no less.

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Starmer is a centre-leftists wet dream - he's purged the left completely, knight of the realm, likes being photo'd buying wallpaper rather than offer any policies...

Centrists/centre-leftists should be delighted with labour, not still be saying they need a new centre-left party.

[Crimson Dynamo]

so one person

how do the left cope??

[Oliver_W]

While I don't think free broadband for everyone is particularly reasonable, as it would have a pretty big cost and internet in the home isn't essential when people can take their laptop/phone/tablet to a hotspot for to use the internet for whatever they "need", it's not Communist either.

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[arista]

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[Swan]

Only thing missing from that pic is Priti's Strap-On

[user104658]

New avatar anyone?

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[arista]

Yes TS you posted the Horrid Fella at the Football
who set a Flair alight up his ass
with his mate checking the flame

[user104658]

Yes TS you posted the Horrid Fella at the Football
who set a Flair alight up his ass
with his mate checking the flame

Yes Boris Johnson. Shocking behaviour.

[arista]

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[arista]

And image for Slim

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[joeysteele]

And image for Slim

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Highly appropriate in my opinion.

[arista]

Highly appropriate in my opinion.


Also for Joey.

[Mystic Mock]

And image for Slim

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Just like the two leaders before him.

[Livia]

I've just had the word g o b s h i t e partly starred out. And here we are with lying c u n t.

[user104658]

I've just had the word g o b s h i t e partly starred out.

:think: weird, it's working OK for me?

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[Oliver_W]

I've just had the word g o b s h i t e partly starred out. And here we are with lying c u n t.

Who's a gobshite?

[user104658]

Who's a gobshite?

Honestly, who isn't?

[Oliver_W]

Honestly, who isn't?

Me.

[user104658]

Me.

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[Livia]

Who's a gobshite?

Honestly, who isn't?

Me.

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LOL.... this is why I come back.

[The Slim Reaper]

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