Hollywood Film Academy - want to ban BORAT as its RACIST

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Advocacy groups are calling for the Borat sequel, starring Sacha Baron Cohen, to be barred
from the Oscars and Golden Globes for “promoting racism in entertainment” and “portraying
Kazakh people as misogynistic, incestuous, anti-Semitic, and barbarous.”

Several advocacy organizations have called for Borat Subsequent Moviefilm to be banned
from competing in the industry’s awards after the film earned an Oscar nomination and two
Golden Globe nominations, according to a report by Fox News. The organizations say that
Sacha Baron Cohen’s flick is guilty of “normalizing, promoting and monetizing whitewashing,
ethnic stereotyping, cultural appropriation and racism in entertainment.”

“Mr. Cohen went beyond any moral or ethical standards in portraying Kazakh people as misogynistic,
incestuous, anti-Semitic, and barbarous,” said Gia Noortas, CEO of Hollywood Film Academy.
“Due to this harmful misrepresentation, more Kazakhs today will face racial abuse, bullying,

humiliation, and dehumanization.”

The groups are now “calling on the film award organizations worldwide to publicly condemn
whitewashing and cultural appropriation, stand against racism and racial hatred and remove Mr. Cohen,
his cast, crew and film ‘Borat Subsequent Moviefilm’ from their respective competitions this year.”

“We understand that the nature of comedy is to test the limits of what is acceptable,
but not at our nation’s expense,” acknowledged Noortas, who went on to say that the film is nonetheless “racism, period.”

“It’s racism, period,” said Noortas. “Racial abuse of Kazakh minority should not be the

last refuge of racism in Hollywood. Kazakh women have become targets for harassment,
Kazakh children are being bullied, Kazakhs worldwide face discrimination.”

Borat Subsequent Moviefilm is the sequel to the 2006 mockumentary-style comedy Borat.
The film follows Kazakhstani journalist Borat, as makes his return to the United States, this time with his daughter
— played by Maria Bakalova — where the two attempt to carry out a “secret mission.”

https://www.wionews.com/entertainment/hollywood/news-advocacy-groups-want-borat-subsequent-moviefilm-to-be-banned-from-all-major-awards-this-year-heres-why-348338

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[Black Dagger]

That and the fact its a terrible film and shouldn't be considered for prestigious awards regardless.

[Nicky91]

good, and i cannot disagree with them at all


he's placing misinformation about kazakhstan with his rubbish movie anyway, that this rubbish even got a sequel is undeserving


stick to stand up comedy Sacha

[Crimson Dynamo]

good, and i cannot disagree with them at all


he's placing misinformation about kazakhstan with his rubbish movie anyway, that this rubbish even got a sequel is undeserving


stick to stand up comedy Sacha

and Jurrasic park is spreading scientific misinformation to children so lets ban that?

[Niamh.]

I can see why the kazakhstani people would be offended although it's pretty clear it's not a serious portrayal either

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can see why the kazakhstani people would be offended although it's pretty clear it's not a serious portrayal either

I think most nations have been lampooned in films over the years

[Mystic Mock]

It's a Comedy fgs!

Films should only be being banned imo if they promote murder of innocent people, rape, or paedophilia as heroic things. Otherwise just don't watch.

[arista]

Its Comedy
but many take it as fact

[Niamh.]

I think most nations have been lampooned in films over the years

Tom Cruise should have been arrested after Far and Away tbf

[Kizzy]

And Shrek is offensive to ogres. .. lol
My guess it's got more to do with an embarrassed lawyer hehehe

[Shaun]

I can see why the kazakhstani people would be offended although it's pretty clear it's not a serious portrayal either

Yeah it's unfortunate really that he had to choose a random country to "hail from" to amplify the West's ignorances. To take it at face value: yeah it's offensive to Kazakhstan. But the point of the character is to mock our own preconceptions of countries and cultures we know nothing about, and criticise our sense of "better than them".

I do wonder if he could have made up a country or region to hail from and got the same results and meetings.

[Niamh.]

Yeah it's unfortunate really that he had to choose a random country to "hail from" to amplify the West's ignorances. To take it at face value: yeah it's offensive to Kazakhstan. But the point of the character is to mock our own preconceptions of countries and cultures we know nothing about, and criticise our sense of "better than them".

Yes exactly, it's more of a tool to unleash the inner(and not so inner in a lot of places) bigot in people

[Tom4784]

Satire is satire.

[Marsh.]

Never found it funny in all honesty.

[Nicky91]

and Jurrasic park is spreading scientific misinformation to children so lets ban that?

No, at least not entirely

and it is fiction ;)

[Crimson Dynamo]

No, at least not entirely

and it is fiction ;)

and so is Borat :wink:

[Nicky91]

and so is Borat :wink:

i've never seen it, and i now know i never will watch it anyway

[Niamh.]

i've never seen it, and i now know i never will watch it anyway

Borat is a fictional character played by Sacha Baron Cohen, he's also played characters called Ali G and Bruno

[Ammi]

...I was just frozen at cringe all the way through...but somehow I found it very feel good as well in the relationship dynamics...I’m not sure how that happened but...I kind of liked it...

...(...not a watch again movie, though..)...

[Nicky91]

Borat is a fictional character played by Sacha Baron Cohen, he's also played characters called Ali G and Bruno

Sacha likes controversy i guess, with stereotypes

not my sort of comedy

[Ammi]

...he’s a really underrated actor, I think ...

[Nicky91]

...he’s a really underrated actor, I think ...

no hardly underrated, more overrated

[Stu]

no hardly underrated, more overrated
Pretty conclusive opinion to draw, given you didn't have a single clue what his performances entailed less than an hour ago.

He's not a stand up, either.

[Nicky91]

Pretty conclusive opinion to draw, given you didn't have a single clue what his performances entailed less than an hour ago.

He's not a stand up, either.

umm

for Borat, creating a disgusting stereotype, most kazakhi people are most definitely nothing like that

for Bruno another disgusting stereotype, surprises me he didn't get complaints from LGBTQ+ community

for Ali G, well just a dumb weirdo who tries to come across as a rapper


overall Sacha is a one trick pony, and thankfully controversial twats never win any awards

[Niamh.]

umm

for Borat, creating a disgusting stereotype, most kazakhi people are most definitely nothing like that

for Bruno another disgusting stereotype, surprises me he didn't get complaints from LGBTQ+ community

for Ali G, well just a dumb weirdo who tries to come across as a rapper


overall Sacha is a one trick pony, and thankfully controversial twats never win any awards

Except these ones :smug:

2006 – Won: Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award for Best Actor.
2006 – Won: San Francisco Film Critics Circle Award for Best Actor.
2006 – Won: Toronto Film Critics Association Award for Best Actor.
2006 – Won: Deutscher Comedypreis (German comedy award) for Best International Comedy.
2007 – Won: Golden Globe for Best Actor in a Comedy/Musical
2007 – Won: MTV Movie Award for Best Comedic Performance
2007 – Won: Evening Standard British Film Awards: Peter Sellers award for Best Comedy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen#Borat_awards_and_nominations

[Nicky91]

Except these ones :smug:

2006 – Won: Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award for Best Actor.
2006 – Won: San Francisco Film Critics Circle Award for Best Actor.
2006 – Won: Toronto Film Critics Association Award for Best Actor.
2006 – Won: Deutscher Comedypreis (German comedy award) for Best International Comedy.
2007 – Won: Golden Globe for Best Actor in a Comedy/Musical
2007 – Won: MTV Movie Award for Best Comedic Performance
2007 – Won: Evening Standard British Film Awards: Peter Sellers award for Best Comedy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen#Borat_awards_and_nominations

undeserving award wins then

[Maxxie.]

undeserving award wins then

How would you know if you haven't seen any of his stuff?

[Stu]

Maybe just graciously accept that his comedy is not for you (which is fine, the latest Borat was rubbish) and move on? You're walking yourself into it, here.

[Ammi]

...he was excellent as Abbie Hoffman in The Trial of the Chicago 7, I thought....

[Niamh.]

...he was excellent as Abbie Hoffman in The Trial of the Chicago 7, I thought....

Oh I forgot he was in that, yeah he was very good

[Ammi]

Oh I forgot he was in that, yeah he was very good

...that’s really what I meant by underrated because it’s more for things like Borat and Ali G that he’s been known but he’s quite a decent actor in more serious roles when we’re not so familiar with the character ...so we focus more on his acting...

[Nicky91]

Maybe just graciously accept that his comedy is not for you (which is fine, the latest Borat was rubbish) and move on? You're walking yourself into it, here.

yeah okay then, his sort of comedy is not my cup of tea

[Oliver_W]

My default reaction is "it's Hollywood, of course they're being stupid"

[LemonJam]

See, I find it hard to believe his self-revisionism that his comedy is to poke fun at western perceptions when he knows exactly who his target audience is :shrug: the average viewer of Borat isn't walking away thinking about the people that Borat is interacting with as much as they're thinking about Borats funny voice, anti-Semitic comments etc, because ultimately Borat is the centric character.

Who is America definitely achieved what he was seemingly aiming for better IMO.

[user104658]

See, I find it hard to believe his self-revisionism that his comedy is to poke fun at western perceptions when he knows exactly who his target audience is :shrug: the average viewer of Borat isn't walking away thinking about the people that Borat is interacting with as much as they're thinking about Borats funny voice, anti-Semitic comments etc, because ultimately Borat is the centric character.

Who is America definitely achieved what he was seemingly aiming for better IMO.You could say the same for any political or social satire. In my opinion, "most people are too dumb to catch the satire" is not a reason to stop making it. See; South Park, Rick & Morty, etc.

[Nicky91]

You could say the same for any political or social satire. In my opinion, "most people are too dumb to catch the satire" is not a reason to stop making it. See; South Park, Rick & Morty, etc.

i do like South Park though

[bots]

Sacha is a very bright guy that can be hilarious one moment and pure cringe the next, a bit like most comedians :laugh:

I like him in small doses

[Maxxie.]

i do like South Park though

What's the difference between Borat and South Park though?

They're very similar kinds of social and political satire.

The new Borat movie won the golden globe as well for best motion picture (musical or comedy).

[Niamh.]

See, I find it hard to believe his self-revisionism that his comedy is to poke fun at western perceptions when he knows exactly who his target audience is :shrug: the average viewer of Borat isn't walking away thinking about the people that Borat is interacting with as much as they're thinking about Borats funny voice, anti-Semitic comments etc, because ultimately Borat is the centric character.

Who is America definitely achieved what he was seemingly aiming for better IMO.

Do you think? I think most people are laughing at the people's reactions(see Rudy Giuliani) whether they think deeply about what it means or not the reactions of the people he's interacting with have always been the funniest part of his interviews and films especially back at the start when he was doing his Ali G interviews

[arista]

What's the difference between Borat and South Park though?

They're very similar kinds of social and political satire.

The new Borat movie won the golden globe as well for best motion picture (musical or comedy).


I think South Park
is better

[GoldHeart]

I'm not a fan of his cringy characters ,so I'm not bothered.