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arista
15-12-2020, 11:20 AM
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Some sad news for Alan.
The China Covid-19 killed his brother

Vanessa
15-12-2020, 11:26 AM
Aw that's really sad!

Alf
15-12-2020, 11:27 AM
Died at 73, In the Winter months? While it's sad for those that knew him, it's not something extraordinary.

I hope this years batch of influenza deaths are not gonna be put into the Covid statistics, if traces of Covid are found, which is a possibility.

Alf
15-12-2020, 11:45 AM
Sharon Osborne has apparently said that she has Covid.

Mystic Mock
15-12-2020, 01:17 PM
That's sad news.

RIP

Oliver_W
15-12-2020, 04:09 PM
Died at 73, In the Winter months? While it's sad for those that knew him, it's not something extraordinary.

I hope this years batch of influenza deaths are not gonna be put into the Covid statistics, if traces of Covid are found, which is a possibility.

It's Lord Sugar who's 73, not his bro.

I really like him, hope he a d his family are okay.

Ammi
15-12-2020, 04:45 PM
.... very, very sad to lose such a close family member anyway...and just before Christmas adds another layer...it’s reported that he had underlying health issues so was obviously vulnerable to the virus..

Crimson Dynamo
15-12-2020, 04:50 PM
he had underlying health conditions and last year id imagine it would have been put down as pneumonia

this year if you go in with an ingrowing toenail you go down as a cornoa death

Shaun
15-12-2020, 05:34 PM
Got to love how those with preexisting medical conditions are just dismissed as collateral by members with zero medical knowledge whatsoever... really rings with festive spirit.

bots
15-12-2020, 06:01 PM
i think people are forgetting the truly distressing way people die from this virus. Sure there arent many nice ways to go, but this one is pretty horrific. To the "would have died anyway" brigade, i hope they don't have such a low concern for relatives that may end up in the same situation

Marsh.
15-12-2020, 06:06 PM
Got to love how those with preexisting medical conditions are just dismissed as collateral by members with zero medical knowledge whatsoever... really rings with festive spirit.

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Ramsay
15-12-2020, 06:11 PM
Got to love how those with preexisting medical conditions are just dismissed as collateral by members with zero medical knowledge whatsoever... really rings with festive spirit.

Sick of seeing it

Amy Jade
15-12-2020, 06:14 PM
Wasn't Sugar denying covid even existed not long ago?

arista
15-12-2020, 06:16 PM
Sharon Osborne has apparently said that she has Covid.



She is Well Tough
and will get through it.

Headie
15-12-2020, 06:21 PM
Wasn't Sugar denying covid even existed not long ago?

Yeah :skull:

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Amy Jade
15-12-2020, 06:22 PM
Yeah :skull:

aWCJz-qOOaw

How awkward...

Crimson Dynamo
15-12-2020, 06:28 PM
Wasn't Sugar denying covid even existed not long ago?

Yeah :skull:

aWCJz-qOOaw

How awkward...



no he did not

you are spreading misinformation

he stated on june 16 that noone he knew had died of covid and that was correct

Jake.
15-12-2020, 06:35 PM
no he did not

you are spreading misinformation

he stated on june 16 that noone he knew had died of covid and that was correct

he had underlying health conditions and last year id imagine it would have been put down as pneumonia

this year if you go in with an ingrowing toenail you go down as a cornoa death

oh

GiRTh
15-12-2020, 06:40 PM
Just awful for the family

Marsh.
15-12-2020, 06:42 PM
oh

:joker:

hijaxers
15-12-2020, 07:00 PM
Wasn't Sugar denying covid even existed not long ago?

Yes he was and saying he was alive and everyone he knew was also. Well not now Sir Alan as you like so many others have lost someone close . RIP

Crimson Dynamo
15-12-2020, 07:25 PM
Yes he was and saying he was alive and everyone he knew was also. Well not now Sir Alan as you like so many others have lost someone close . RIP

how dare he not be able to see 6 months in the future for his ill brother in his 80s


MONSTER

Ammi
30-12-2020, 12:20 PM
...Lord Sugar’s sister Shirley has also died..so awful for the family, both siblings were obviously vulnerable....:sad:...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/lord-sugar-sister-covid-brother-death-101028210.html

arista
30-12-2020, 12:31 PM
...Lord Sugar’s sister Shirley has also died..so awful for the family, both siblings were obviously vulnerable....:sad:...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/lord-sugar-sister-covid-brother-death-101028210.html



Thats Terrible.

I have Edited the Title.

UserSince2005
30-12-2020, 01:28 PM
Wasn't he in his new cafe a few months ago insisting everyone go back out.
Shame on him, I hope he can forgive himself.

Oliver_W
30-12-2020, 01:49 PM
God, the poor Sugar family...

bots
30-12-2020, 03:53 PM
It's easy to deny something is a threat until it directly affects a family member. Smokers did exactly the same for decades. Anti maskers attending Trump rallies did exactly the same. It's part coping mechanism and part stupidity and it will always be the same

Tom4784
30-12-2020, 05:01 PM
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Some sad news for Alan.
The China Covid-19 killed his brother

Using this story to push your racist agenda is pretty gross, Arista.

Tom4784
30-12-2020, 05:03 PM
I feel sorry for the family though, it's a far too harsh irony that people who deny covid have their delusions shattered in such a way and that their loved ones die for it to happen.

Covid is real, it's a present danger, wear a damn mask and stick to the guidelines.

Garfie
31-12-2020, 08:56 AM
I feel sorry for the family though, it's a far too harsh irony that people who deny covid have their delusions shattered in such a way and that their loved ones die for it to happen.

Covid is real, it's a present danger, wear a damn mask and stick to the guidelines.

Exactly. Enough said.

Wizard.
31-12-2020, 10:03 AM
Where's the news of his sister dying too?

Jessica.
31-12-2020, 10:47 AM
Using this story to push your racist agenda is pretty gross, Arista.

I don't get why it's still allowed on the forum, maybe it was the UK strain that killed them? Would it then be the nasty England virus?

Jake.
31-12-2020, 11:39 AM
I feel sorry for the family though, it's a far too harsh irony that people who deny covid have their delusions shattered in such a way and that their loved ones die for it to happen.

Covid is real, it's a present danger, wear a damn mask and stick to the guidelines.

Completely agree.

DouglasS
31-12-2020, 11:48 AM
Using this story to push your racist agenda is pretty gross, Arista.

How is it racist? It is the Chinese virus?

The Spanish flu is known as exactly that, this virus originated in China.. it’s no different than saying the U.K. Strain and the South Africa strain, which other countries are doing

DouglasS
31-12-2020, 11:49 AM
I don't get why it's still allowed on the forum, maybe it was the UK strain that killed them? Would it then be the nasty England virus?

How is it racist though? Saying the Chinese virus is just saying the virus originated in China, it’s no different than you saying the U.K. strain right now? Does that make you racist also?

bots
31-12-2020, 12:07 PM
How is it racist though? Saying the Chinese virus is just saying the virus originated in China, it’s no different than you saying the U.K. strain right now? Does that make you racist also?

news channels around the world are using the name uk-variant, which if pushed could be considered racist but is in fact a simple and recognisable classification. However, we all know where the original covid originated, so there is no specific need to name it chinese and it will be used by those with racist tendencies, but strictly speaking it is the china virus in the same way that the last pandemic was Spanish, which is still used to this day and no-one bats an eye about that being racist

Cherie
31-12-2020, 12:11 PM
The Spanish flu did not originate in Spain, the first known case was in Kansas USA, it is not exactly known where it originated from but Spain had the highest death count hence Spanish flu :skull:

bots
31-12-2020, 12:16 PM
The Spanish flu did not originate in Spain, the first known case was in Kansas USA, it is not exactly known where it originated from but Spain had the highest death count hence Spanish flu :skull:

on that basis it should be American covid then ... that would make Trump happy :laugh:

Tom4784
31-12-2020, 01:01 PM
How is it racist? It is the Chinese virus?

The Spanish flu is known as exactly that, this virus originated in China.. it’s no different than saying the U.K. Strain and the South Africa strain, which other countries are doing

It's about the intent. The only people who call it the 'chinese virus' are the Trumps and right wingers of the world who obviously want to push a particular narrative, a narrative that's meant to be disparaging to chinese people.

Everyone calls it Covid or some variation of Corona, it's only the racists that insist on calling it the chinese virus.

The Spanish Flu was called that for the same reason, to disparage Spain.

Saying where a virus originated from isn't bad. Nobody is calling the virus the 'UK virus' they call it the strain that originated in UK. There's a difference. There's respect in that but branding Covid the 'Chinese Virus' is obviously different.

It shouldn't really be something I have to explain, it should be obvious.

DouglasS
31-12-2020, 02:40 PM
It's about the intent. The only people who call it the 'chinese virus' are the Trumps and right wingers of the world who obviously want to push a particular narrative, a narrative that's meant to be disparaging to chinese people.

Everyone calls it Covid or some variation of Corona, it's only the racists that insist on calling it the chinese virus.

The Spanish Flu was called that for the same reason, to disparage Spain.

Saying where a virus originated from isn't bad. Nobody is calling the virus the 'UK virus' they call it the strain that originated in UK. There's a difference. There's respect in that but branding Covid the 'Chinese Virus' is obviously different.

It shouldn't really be something I have to explain, it should be obvious.

How do you know everyone’s intent? Are you psychic? You are just making a bunch of assumptions that people have negative intent / what their political views are. I call it the Chinese virus because that’s where it originated from and where the virus was created.

There is no narrative to push, although perhaps yes China should have stricter regulations regarding the cleanliness of fish markets, perhaps China should have better animal welfare laws, and yes perhaps China should have regulations in place to not mix different animals. China does indeed have a disproportionate amount of disease that originated there when you look at epidemics and pandemics, and perhaps China should act on some of the things I’ve listed above to help prevent it occurring as frequently as it does. Ignoring these issues does not help anyone (including China then self). Talking about these issues is not racist at all...

Kizzy
31-12-2020, 02:49 PM
I've noticed that, with every new variant it's reported we were seeded by Spanish farm workers or something, it perpetuates the narrative that foreigners are invasive...
And yet the news of 30,000 agricultural workers were announced to great fanfare a week before that they were coming to rescue that sector post Brexit.

Make your mind up media... are they savior or the enemy?

Can you imagine if 30,000 UK residents rocked up on another island? What the hell would they say we were? :/

Kizzy
31-12-2020, 02:52 PM
How do you know everyone’s intent? Are you psychic? You are just making a bunch of assumptions that people have negative intent / what their political views are. I call it the Chinese virus because that’s where it originated from and where the virus was created.

There is no narrative to push, although perhaps yes China should have stricter regulations regarding the cleanliness of fish markets, perhaps China should have better animal welfare laws, and yes perhaps China should have regulations in place to not mix different animals. China does indeed have a disproportionate amount of disease that originated there when you look at epidemics and pandemics, and perhaps China should act on some of the things I’ve listed above to help prevent it occurring as frequently as it does. Ignoring these issues does not help anyone (including China then self). Talking about these issues is not racist at all...

Where did BSE originate.. and why?

DouglasS
31-12-2020, 03:02 PM
Where did BSE originate.. and why?

I don’t get your point? If you called it the U.K. disease I would find zero offence?

Just stating a random disease/illness that started in the U.K. does not offer any reasons as to why it is racist if some people call it the Chinese virus? It’s not like it’s completely random it was stated as the China virus even by BBC and other news outlets when it first begun, including the president of the United States, it’s not just some random terminology...

People just seem to be snowflakes on other peoples/countries behalf.

Edit: After reading about BSE, well done to the U.K. on acting and placing a ban on feeding bones and meat to cows and actively help to prevent this ever happening again, perhaps China should follow suit and place stricter animal welfare laws and better food hygiene laws, and better wet market regulations to prevent yet another disease from occurring - rather than imprisoning Chinese reporters who report on the Chinese virus and its origins or wet markets..

I think it’s important to hold China accountable to help prevent this happening and occurring again and again, otherwise millions upon millions of lives will be lost due to future occurrences. Any country that has poor regulations (as you mentioned above the U.K. with mad cows disease) should be held accountable for disease/deaths and try to improve for the benefit of the world and lives. I think trying to protect countries (China in this case) is incredibly dangerous because otherwise they will not feel pressure to implement change to prevent this happening again. Just my personal view - shutting down people who remind others where it originated is actually quite dangerous

rusticgal
31-12-2020, 03:28 PM
People get far too sensitive on here...its just laughable.

Stick a label on 'Made in China'...that doesnt seem to offend anyone.