Alf's top 40 countdown of the greatest footballers of all time.

[Alf]

I'm gonna do this soon, I just need to do a little bit more research. And it's not gonna be from all time as the title suggests, I'm gonna do it from 1950 to the present day. Pre war stuff is hard to judge, not as much information.

Something for the footie fans.

[Ramsay]

Ledley King number 1

[Alf]

Ledley King number 1I liked Ledley, great defender, very unlucky with injuries in his career. Could have been an England regular even with Ferdinand and Terry about.

[GiRTh]

This is a difficult list to compile.

Gonna be interesting to see what order you put the big four in - Messi, Pele, Maradona and Ronaldo. I'm curious to see where you put the other Ronaldo. He was the best pure striker I've ever seen. Also, Zidane, Pirlo, Van Basten, Baresi, Maldini, Shearer, Gascoine, Zlatan etc. These are among the best players I've ever seen. Its going to be interesting to see who is left out.

[The Slim Reaper]

Diego is 1. The rest is up for debate.

[Alf]

I will settle the Messi vs Ronaldo debate, once and for all.

[Alf]

I will be judging players what they did in their era's. What they won, how influential was they, their reputations/legends, their individual as well as team statistics and footage I've seen of them.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sir Kenneth in at number 2 then. Interesting...

[GiRTh]

I will be judging players what they did in their era's. What they won, how influential was they, their reputations/legends, their individual as well as team statistics and footage I've seen of them.That means theres gonna be a load of Man Utd players. Ryan Giggs has to make it on that criteria. His name was not my mind when I think of top 40 of all time.

[Alf]

That means theres gonna be a load of Man Utd players. Ryan Giggs has to make it on that criteria. His name was not my mind when I think of top 40 of all time. Not necessarily so. While Giggs was a great player, he wasn't the most influencial player in the team, he was one of them, but not the most.

I don't know my list yet, but I can say with certainty that as good a player Giggs was, he won't make this list.

[GiRTh]

Not necessarily so. While Giggs was a great player, he wasn't the most influencial player in the team, he was one of them, but not the most.

I don't know my list yet, but I can say with certainty that as good a player Giggs was, he won't make this list.Nice one :thumbs:

[Alf]

40

Rivellino

Brazil


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[Alf]

39

Hristo Stoichkov

Bulgaria


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[Alf]

38

Antoine Griezmann

France


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[Alf]

37

Didi

Brazil


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[Alf]

36

Lev Yashin

Soviet Union


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[Alf]

He is the only goalkeeper to make the list, which would make him The greatest keeper of all time.

I did consider Buffon, Schmeichel, Kahn, Zoff and Banks, but too many keepers means less outfield players.

[Alf]

35

Luis Suarez

Spain


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[Alf]

34

Franco Baresi

Italy


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[Alf]

33

Neymar Jr

Brazil


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[Alf]

32

Raymond Kopa

France


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[Denver]

He is the only goalkeeper to make the list, which would make him The greatest keeper of all time.

I did consider Buffon, Schmeichel, Kahn, Zoff and Banks, but too many keepers means less outfield players.

Clearly you lost all credibility by leave out Clemence

[Alf]

31

Frank Rijkaard

Holland


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[GiRTh]

Should be higher. Complete player.

[Alf]

Clearly you lost all credibility by leave out ClemenceYou'll like number 30

[Alf]

30

Kenny Dalglish

Scotland


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[GiRTh]

I'm still not over Rijkaard.

[Alf]

Soryy LT but Kenny is the only Scot to make the list.

[Alf]

29

Andres Iniesta

Spain


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[Alf]

28

Sandor Kocsis

Hungary


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[Alf]

27

Xavi Hernandez

Spain


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[GiRTh]

28

Sandor Kocsis

Hungary


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[Alf]

Too many old geezers, Alf. This bloke died in 1979. :laugh:Have you seen his international goal scoring record? He ranks number 1 on goal average at international level, he can't be left out.

[GiRTh]

75 goals in 68 internationals is incredible

[Alf]

26

Paolo Maldini

Italy


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[GiRTh]

Should be higher. Please dont put John Terry above Maldini

[Alf]

Maldini is my all time footballing hero. I wanted to be Maldini.

[GiRTh]

In fact I would have no issues if you put 5 or 6 of that great Milan team on your list. I have always said they were the best team Ive seen play. Make room for Ruud Gullit and van Basten. Will Ancelotti make the list? He was quite a big member of that team too.

[Alf]

In fact I wold have no issues if you put 5 or 6 of that great Milan team on your list. I have always said they were the best team Ive seen play. Make room for Ruud Gullit and van Basten. Will Ancelotti make the lis? He was quite a big member of that team too.There is one more of that team to come, which with Rijkaard, Baresi and Maldini makes 4, which is a good return for one single team. Was a great team, would love to see that team take on the great Barcelona team.

[Alf]

25

Karl-Heinz Rummenigge

West Germany


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[GiRTh]

So either Gullit or Van Basten doesn't make it. :shocked: After Brazilian Ronaldo, Van Basten is the best pure striker I've seen. Unreal finisher. He scored with his head, blasted 'em from 20 yard or dink over the keeper. He scored all types of goals Surely he's in. Gullit has to be in too as one of the most complete players in any position. So interesting to see who you've left out.

[Beso]

30

Kenny Dalglish

Scotland


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Top 15 at least

[Alf]

24

Kevin Keegan

England


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[Ramsay]

Not enough Damien Duff

[Alf]

Not enough Damien DuffA relief for us all.

Yeah, I better tell Niamh at this point, that no Irish player made the top 40. I did consider Paul Mcgrath and Roy Keane, but it wasn't to be.

[Ramsay]

No Roy Keane? Jokes aside now I know you're trippin

[GiRTh]

I fully support the no Roy Keane decision,.

[Ramsay]

You're all sick!

[Alf]

23

Elias Figueroa

Chile


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[Beso]

24

Kevin Keegan

England


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A poor mans kenny

[Alf]

22

Lothar Matthaus

West Germany/Germany


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[GiRTh]

Just realised there going to be a load of German players coming soon, :nono:

[Beso]

This list is really annoying me.

[Alf]

21

Romario

Brazil


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[Alf]

That's the half way stage, the big guns to come in the second half.

Time for a break. Back soon.

[bots]

there can be no top 5 without Johan Cruyff in it. He was a wonder player

[Beso]

Hes probably got Geoffrey boycott at number one.

[GiRTh]

Hes probably got Geoffrey boycott at number one.:laugh:

[Alf]

Hes probably got Geoffrey boycott at number one.Well, Sir Geoff has more chance than Archie Gemmil.

[Captain.Remy]

Zidane first or keep it :laugh:

[Alf]

Zidane first or keep it :laugh:There's still two Frenchman to come in the top 20, Remy. Fingers crossed for Zizu.

[Alf]

20

Gerd Muller

West Germany


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[Alf]

19

George Best

Northern Ireland


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[Alf]

18

Eusebio

Portugal


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[Alf]

17

Ronaldinho

Brazil


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[Alf]

16

Marco van Basten

Holland


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[Alf]

15

Roberto Baggio

Italy


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[GiRTh]

No Ruud Gullitt. I'm stunned. Stunned. Keegan was a better player than Gullitt. I have no words.

[Alf]

14

Bobby Charlton

England


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[Alf]

No Ruud Gullitt. I'm stunned. Stunned. Keegan was a better player than Gullitt. I have no words.Tell Ruud to put his Ballon d'or's on the table against Kevin's

[GiRTh]

European championship with Holland, three European cups with Milan./ And he was probably the most high profile member of that team. He's got to be on anyone list.

Keegan is better than Gullit in no world that exists.

[GiRTh]

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[Alf]

Ruud had a couple or three years at the top, but World Cup 90 he did nothing, then left Milan for Sampdoria. He was never the best player in the World, not when the likes of Maradona, Matthaus and Van Basten were around.

I did consider him, but he didn't make the cut.

[GiRTh]

Ruud had a couple or three years at the top, but World Cup 90 he did nothing, then left Milan for Samdoria. He was never the best player in the World, not when the likes of Maradona, Matthaus and Van Basten were around.

I did consider him, but he didn't make the cut.He had more than a couple of years at the top. This was at the time when Berlusconi was President of Milan and the turnover of players was ridiculous. Do you remember they bought Jean Pierre Papin and he was European top scorer when they bought him and then they didnt play him. There was much speculation that Milan were buying players just so other teams couldnt get them. That Milan team was a dominant a team as I've ever seen and Gullit was a big part of that dominance. I'd even go as for as to possibly include Roberto Donadoni if I was to make a list like this cuz he too was incredible in that team.

I was a big fan of that team. Can you tell. :joker:

[Alf]

13

Garrincha

Brazil


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[Captain.Remy]

Gullit is underrated and that's all I have to say about it. He was so damn impressive.

[GiRTh]

Gullit is underrated and that's all I have to say about it. He was so damn impressive.:clap1:

[Alf]

He had more than a couple of years at the top. This was at the time when Berlusconi was President of Milan and the turnover of players was ridiculous. Do you remember they bought Jean Pierre Papin and he was European top scorer when they bought him and then they didnt play him. There was much speculation that Milan were buying players just so other teams couldnt get them. That Milan team was a dominant a team as I've ever seen and Gullit was a big part of that dominance. I'd even go as for as to possibly include Roberto Donadoni if I was to make a list like this cuz he too was incredible in that team.

I was a big fan of that team. Can you tell. :joker:Had English clubs not been banned from Europe at the time, that Milan team might not have been as successful. Up until the ban, English clubs were dominant in Europe and Liverpool still had a great team around the time of Milan's dominance.

[Alf]

12

Michel Platini

France


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[Alf]

It's always a toss of a coin who's the greatest French player, they're tough to split. So who do you think is gonna be number 11?

[Captain.Remy]

That's my boy right there! My dad was crazy about him.
A record of 41 goals for France that got beat by Thierry Henry in 2007 (I think it was 2007 or something?)
Anyway, a super talented guy but ended up corrupt. A shame, but he left a reall good legacy.

[GiRTh]

Had English clubs not been banned from Europe at the time, that Milan team might not have been as successful. Up until the ban, English clubs were dominant in Europe and Liverpool still had a great team around the time of Milan's dominance.Those were great Liverpool teams in the 70's and early 80's but I dont remember great Liverpool teams in the early 90's, so no, I dont think many teams in history could have lived with that Milan team. They are possibly the best team I've ever seen. They were physical, their offside trap was so well orchestrated teams hardly got a shot on goal, and they even changed the rules to stop their offside trap, and up front that had two of the greatest of all time.

The player who also deserves mention was Ancelotti. Underrated player. And i I was to list the managers in the Premiership in terms of how good a player they were, only Lampard comes close to Ancelotti. Dont get me started on Guardiola being a great player. Guardiola was a good player not a great player.

[Alf]

11

Zinedine Zidane

France


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[Captain.Remy]

Can we have a list of who is remaining?

[GiRTh]

No Theirry Henry. Ok , I'm joking.

[Captain.Remy]

11

Zinedine Zidane

France


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Get the hell out :joker: :joker: You did NOT give him 11th place!

[GiRTh]

I'd put Zidane higher than 11 too.

[GiRTh]

I sense there are some jokers coming up if Zidane is 11th.

[Alf]

Get the hell out :joker: :joker: You did NOT give him 11th place!Beautiful player to watch, a true artist. Unlucky to miss out on a top ten place.

[Alf]

10

Ferenc Puskas

Hungary


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[GiRTh]

So the big five must be Ronaldo twice, Messi, Maradona, Pele. Where will they finish?

[Captain.Remy]

So the big five must be Ronaldo twice, Messi, Maradona, Pele. Where will they finish?

All of them behind David Beckham :laugh:

[Alf]

9

Ronaldo

Brazil


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[GiRTh]

All of them behind David Beckham :laugh:
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[GiRTh]

9

Ronaldo

Brazil


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[Alf]

8

Zico

Brazil


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[Denver]

I bet its an Everton player as your favourite

[GiRTh]

Paul Gascoigne at number 1?

[Captain.Remy]

Can't wait to come back tomorrow morning and see that either Beckham, Gascogne or Vinnie Jones is number 1.

[Alf]

7

Franz Beckenbauer

West Germany


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[Alf]

Are you ready for your Jaws to drop at number 6?

[GiRTh]

8

Zico

Brazil


u4SZArlO_YMInteresting player. Brazil never won a thing with Zico in the team and he was in it for a couple of decades. To the point that some people think the club he played - Flamengo - are unlucky

I'm the home of Brazilian football trivia.

[GiRTh]

The kaiser at 7 is fine

[GiRTh]

Wheres Paul Gascoigne? :joker:

[Alf]

Interesting player. Brazil never won a thing with Zico in the team and he was in it for a couple of decades. To the point that some people think the club he played - Flamengo - are unlucky

I'm the home of Brazilian football trivia.They say that the Brazil 82 team is the greatest team to never to win the World cup. They ran into a in form Paolo Rossi and that was that.

[GiRTh]

They say that the Brazil 82 team is the greatest team to never to win the World cup. They ran into a in form Paolo Rossi and that was that.I remeber watching it. Rossi scored all but one of his goals from inside the six yards box. A real fox in the box. You lose him, he scores.

[Alf]

Here comes the controversy.

[GiRTh]

Is it Theo Walcott?

[Alf]

6

Lionel Messi

Argentina


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[AnnieK]

Can we have a full countdown on one post at the end. My football mad 10 year old is desperate to see full list and I'm not handing over my phone for him to read through the whole thread :laugh:

Ps he thinks Pele for number 1

[GiRTh]

6

Lionel Messi

Argentina


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No Alf, Rijkaard was bad, no Gullit is unforgivable but this is not gonna go by without question. You need to explain

[Alf]

Can we have a full countdown on one post at the end. My football mad 10 year old is desperate to see full list and I'm not handing over my phone for him to read through the whole thread :laugh:

Ps he thinks Pele for number 1Will do that for you.

[AnnieK]

Will do that for you.

Thank you :love:

[Alf]

5

Johan Cruyff

Holland


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[GiRTh]

One wild card left, is it Steven Gerrard. Tope 3 got to be Ronaldo, Pele, Maradona.

[Alf]

4

Alfredo Di Stefano

Argentina/Spain


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[GiRTh]

to many old fogies, Alf.

A great list anyway. Thanks for taking the time to compile it so we can comment on it.

[Alf]

3

Diego Maradona

Argentina


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[Alf]

2

Cristiano Ronaldo

Portugal


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[GiRTh]

I agree Ronaldo is better than Messi. I dont think its much of a footballing debate anymore.

[Alf]

1

Pele

Brazil


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[AnnieK]

Brilliant thread Alf....my boy is happy (am at my dads tonight, he's not happy that there is no Nat Lofthouse or Gary Madine though - bless Bolton fans :laugh:)

[GiRTh]

So what do you think to Pele's 1000 goals? He made his debut at 17 and retired at 37. 1000 goals in 20 years. 50 a year. Not possible

[Alf]

Here you go Annie


1 Pele
2 Cristiano Ronaldo
3 Diego Maradona
4 Alfredo Di Stefano
5 Johan Cruyff
6 Lionel Messi
7 Franz Beckenbauer
8 Zico
9 Ronaldo
10 Ferenc Puskas
11 Zinedine Zidane
12 Michel Platini
13 Garrincha
14 Bobby Charlton
15 Roberto Baggio
16 Marco van Basten
17 Ronaldinho
18 Eusebio
19 George Best
20 Gerd Muller
21 Romario
22 Lothar Matthaus
23 Elias Figueroa
24 Kevin Keegan
25 Karl Heinz-Rummenigge
26 Paolo Maldini
27 Xavi Hernandez
28 Sandor Kocsis
29 Andres Iniesta
30 Kenny Dalglish
31 Frank Rijkaard
32 Raymond Kopa
33 Neymar
34 Franco Baresi
35 Luis Suarez (not the former Liverpool player)
36 Lev Yashin
37 Didi
38 Antoine Griezmann
39 Hristo Stoichkov
40 Rivellino

[AnnieK]

So what do you think to Pele's 1000 goals? He made his debut at 17 and retired at 37. 1000 goals in 20 years. 50 a year. Not possible

According to my kid....526 of Peles 1282 goals were from unofficial matches so shouldn't have counted in goal count.

[Alf]

Only two English players.

Stanley Matthews and Tom Finney were close as was Paul Gascoigne and Steven Gerrard (yuk)

[Alf]

to many old fogies, Alf.

A great list anyway. Thanks for taking the time to compile it so we can comment on it.Maybe I'll do a more modern list next time, maybe a Premier league all time top 40?

I'll let Annie's kid decide if I should or not.

[GiRTh]

Other than Gullit, the only player I would have who is not on your list is Andrea Pirlo. For me, as good a midfielder of this generation as Xavi or Iniesta. I think in a few years we'll appreciate how good a player he was.

Great list, Alf. Cheers for sharing it. :thumbs:

[Beso]

My head hurts after watching a lot if those videos..all great players that deserve a place on the list, but I disagree with the order.

[Alf]

Other than Gullit, the only player I would have who is not on your list is Andrea Pirlo. For me, as good a midfielder of this generation as Xavi or Iniesta. I think in a few years we'll appreciate how good a player he was.

Great list, Alf. Cheers for sharing it. :thumbs:Pirlo was definitely considered. Very unlucky not to make it.

[GiRTh]

Do a best football teams you've watched. I think you know who'd be top of my list:joker:

[Beso]

No rossi?

[GiRTh]

Mine would be in no order:

Milan 88-92
Man Utd 2008, better than 1999 IMO
Arsenal Invincibles - of course
Barca for the Pep years
Ajax 94 - team that produced Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, both De Boer twins. great team put together by Louis Van Galle
Czech republic team of 2004 - remember that team with Milan Baros, the 6 foot 8 tree Jan Koller, Pavel Nedved - Fond memories of that team, very exciting team that didnt win anything.

I might have a think about this.

[Alf]

Mine would be in no order:

Milan 88-92
Man Utd 2008, better than 1999 IMO
Arsenal Invincibles - of course
Barca for the Pep years
Ajax 94 - team that produced Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, both De Boer twins. great team put together by Louis Van Galle
Czech republic team of 2004 - remember that team with Milan Baros, the 6 foot 8 tree Jan Koller, Pavel Nedved - Fond memories of that team, very exciting team that didnt win anything.

I might have a think about this.The Spanish national team between 2008 - 2012

The French national team between 1998 and 2000

[GiRTh]

The Spanish national team between 2008 - 2012them too :thumbs:

I'm gonna have a think about this.

[AnnieK]

Here you go Annie


1 Pele
2 Cristiano Ronaldo
3 Diego Maradona
4 Alfredo Di Stefano
5 Johan Cruyff
6 Lionel Messi
7 Franz Beckenbauer
8 Zico
9 Ronaldo
10 Ferenc Puskas
11 Zinedine Zidane
12 Michel Platini
13 Garrincha
14 Bobby Charlton
15 Roberto Baggio
16 Marco van Basten
17 Ronaldinho
18 Eusebio
19 George Best
20 Gerd Muller
21 Romario
22 Lothar Matthaus
23 Elias Figueroa
24 Kevin Keegan
25 Karl Heinz-Rummenigge
26 Paolo Maldini
27 Xavi Hernandez
28 Sandor Kocsis
29 Andres Iniesta
30 Kenny Dalglish
31 Frank Rijkaard
32 Raymond Kopa
33 Neymar
34 Franco Baresi
35 Luis Suarez (not the former Liverpool player)
36 Lev Yashin
37 Didi
38 Antoine Griezmann
39 Hristo Stoichkov
40 Rivellino

Thanks Alf....he will be made up to read it in the morning.....he may have some comments though :laugh: He's passionate about football

[GiRTh]

According to my kid....526 of Peles 1282 goals were from unofficial matches so shouldn't have counted in goal count.Totally true. It was something that was pushed for years but has now been roundly debunked. The 1000 goals were not in competitive matches, alot of friendlies and exhibition games.

[Alf]

Totally true. It was something that was pushed for years but has now been roundly debunked. The 1000 goals were not in competitive matches, alot of friendlies and exhibition games.In the early sixties, Santos toured Europe and played all the best European teams. Benfica at the time were the top European team, with Eusebio in their team. I believe Santos gave them a whooping in their own stadium, I'm not sure but I think Pele might of scored a hat trick.

[Alf]

Thanks Alf....he will be made up to read it in the morning.....he may have some comments though :laugh: He's passionate about footballI hope your lad isn't a big Messi fan, he'll go mad at me.

[AnnieK]

Maybe I'll do a more modern list next time, maybe a Premier league all time top 40?

I'll let Annie's kid decide if I should or not.

He said "yeah that would be pretty sick" which I think means "yes, that would be great please Alf" :laugh:

[AnnieK]

I hope your lad isn't a big Messi fan, he'll go mad at me.

He thought Eusabio should have been higher but thought Messi was fair (he is more if a CR7 fan)

[Alf]

Annie, if your lad is interested and has never seen these, Sky sports did loads of pretty good 30 minute documentaries on the greatest players. They're all on YouTube. Here are the ones from my top ten.



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[AnnieK]

Annie, if your lad is interested and has never seen these, Sky sports did loads of pretty good 30 minute documentaries on the greatest players. They're all on YouTube. Here are the ones from my top ten.



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Thanks Alf - I will show him them

[The Slim Reaper]

I think your insistence on individual awards affected your judgement and ultimately the list. Michael Owen has a ballon d'or, so these things don't always indicate who the best players are. A good read though, Alfred.

[Zizu]

I think your insistence on individual awards affected your judgement and ultimately the list. Michael Owen has a ballon d'or, so these things don't always indicate who the best players are. A good read though, Alfred.



Great point !!


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[Babayaro.]

No Yossi Benayoun?

[Alf]

I think your insistence on individual awards affected your judgement and ultimately the list. Michael Owen has a ballon d'or, so these things don't always indicate who the best players are. A good read though, Alfred.That was one criteria I used, but also took other things into account. There's quite a few players in there than never won a Ballon D'or, Dalglish for one. Dalglish was in because he was the most influential player in the Liverpool dynasty of the late 70s early 80s, which was dominant in Europe. Most are there because they played influential roles in dominant teams. Some are in there for their performances at World cups, such as Garrincha. Some are there just for their freakish talent.

[Alf]

So, I have 50 players picked out for my all time Premier league players.

I just need to try and arrange them in order, then I'll get posting.

Note, just because Ronaldo finished second in this list, doesn't automatically mean he'll win the Premier league list. I will be judging solely on their Premier league careers, not from what they've done elsewhere or at international level.

[James]

Messi, Cristiano, Pele and Maradona would definitely be in the top four or five for me.

[GiRTh]

So, I have 50 players picked out for my all time Premier league players.

I just need to try and arrange them in order, then I'll get posting.

Note, just because Ronaldo finished second in this list, doesn't automatically mean he'll win the Premier league list. I will be judging solely on their Premier league careers, not from what they've done elsewhere or at international level.So agree, he wasnt around long enough to make my top ten.

[Niamh.]

A relief for us all.

Yeah, I better tell Niamh at this point, that no Irish player made the top 40. I did consider Paul Mcgrath and Roy Keane, but it wasn't to be.

I fully support the no Roy Keane decision,.

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[Niamh.]

Also fun fact for you Alf since you had Pele at number 1, Football translated to Irish is Peile (pronounced similar to the player)

[James]

Did you consider Michael Laudrup? He was up there in the 80s with Platini and Maradona.

[GiRTh]

Did you consider Michael Laudrup? He was up there in the 80s with Platini and Maradona.No. He's not even the best player in his family. His brother Brian was better.

[James]

No. He's not even the best player in his family. His brother Brian was better.

Well I am biased and agree, but Michael was a top player in 84 and 86.

[GiRTh]

Well I am biased and agree, but Michael was a top player in 84 and 86.He was but I wouldn't have put him in the same class as Platini and Maradona.

[James]

Brian Laudrup is in my top-three favourite Rangers players, by the way, along with Gascoigne and Richard Gough.

[GiRTh]

Brian Laudrup is in my top-three favourite Rangers players, by the way, along with Gascoigne and Richard Gough.Arteta?

[Alf]

Brian Laudrup is in my top-three favourite Rangers players, by the way, along with Gascoigne and Richard Gough.Was Davie Cooper before your time?

What about the goal machine McCoist? or maybe the greatest Scottish keeper ever, Goram? Stuart McCall was also a very good Rangers player.

[James]

Arteta?

Think he only had a couple of seasons, but he did have some great moments.

Was Davie Cooper before your time?

What about the goal machine McCoist? or maybe the greatest Scottish keeper ever, Goram? Stuart McCall was also a very good Rangers player.

Davie Cooper was kind of before my time. Loads of people said had one of the best left-feet and could have played in any top-team. He didn't play in a great Rangers side for some of his career.

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Goram and Mccoist would be close to top-three favourite. McCall was good too.

[Alf]

Do you want a new Alf countdown on this?

[Alf]

I would come up with different placings in this now. Messi now has a World Cup winners medal and a South American championship winners medal since I did this. He would therefore have to be higher. I also think I did Maradona a disservice only having him at number 3. He was much better than that. How did I put him behind Cristiano Ronaldo? I must have still been on the pot at that time.

[Beso]

https://www.goal.com/en/news/italian-legend-paolo-rossi-dies-aged-64/xquud7u9e9981en3z9rctoue7

[Beso]

I would come up with different placings in this now. Messi now has a World Cup winners medal and a South American championship winners medal since I did this. He would therefore have to be higher. I also think I did Maradona a disservice only having him at number 3. He was much better than that. How did I put him behind Cristiano Ronaldo? I must have still been on the pot at that time.



At least griezmann is still playing...

That's all that really matters.

[Alf]

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Franz Beckenbauer

West Germany


_fKL-Y2D8bwAlf already had the Kaiser in the top 7 players that ever lived.

His stock has probably gone up with his death. He'll be challenging the top five now.

[Zizu]

Alf already had the Kaiser in the top 7 players that ever lived.

His stock has probably gone up with his death. He'll be challenging the top five now.


Crazy that only three players in history have won the World Cup as a player AND a manager


If more crazy is than two of them have died in the last few DAYS !!


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[Beso]

Do you want a new Alf countdown on this?

Not if andy goram appears after craig Gordon.