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Crimson Dynamo
22-12-2020, 01:20 PM
first thought only, dont google it:nono:

Redway
22-12-2020, 01:22 PM
41

(BIDMAS.)

UserSince2005
22-12-2020, 01:23 PM
41

(BIDMAS.)

Agreed excepted its BODMAS

Elliot
22-12-2020, 01:25 PM
41

Alf
22-12-2020, 01:27 PM
1

Alf
22-12-2020, 01:27 PM
Anything times zero is zero

Crimson Dynamo
22-12-2020, 01:28 PM
41

(BIDMAS.)

Agreed excepted its BODMAS

41

incorrectomundo

DouglasS
22-12-2020, 01:31 PM
Anything times zero is zero

Yes but I think it’ll be 40+ (40*0) +1 because of the rules of BODMAS so the answer would be 41, as you have to do the multiplication first which would be 40*0 and then add the other 40 afterwards.. could be completely wrong :laugh:

Kate!
22-12-2020, 01:33 PM
1.

Alf
22-12-2020, 01:33 PM
Yes but I think it’ll be 40+ (40*0) +1 because of the rules of BODMAS so the answer would be 41, as you have to do the multiplication first which would be 40*0 and then add the other 40 afterwards.. could be completely wrong :laugh:40+40=80x0=0+1=1

smudgie
22-12-2020, 01:35 PM
1

rusticgal
22-12-2020, 01:36 PM
Definitely 1

80x0 is 0

Redway
22-12-2020, 01:37 PM
Agreed excepted its BODMAS

It depends if we’re calling the second letter order or index. That’s nothing other than personal preference.

DouglasS
22-12-2020, 01:38 PM
40+40=80x0=0+1=1

But I think you have to do multiplication first so it’ll be 40*0 = 0
Then the additions 0+40+1 = 41
As you do not go in the order it’s written you follow the BODMAS order (division first, multiplication second, addition third, subtraction last). It’s like how 8+2÷2 = 9 and not 5

When long sums have no brackets to tell you the order you are meant to follow the BODMAS rules

Alf
22-12-2020, 01:40 PM
But I think you have to do multiplication first so it’ll be 40*0 = 0
Then the additions 0*40+1 = 41
As you do not go in the order it’s written you follow the BODMAS order (division first, multiplication second, addition third, subtraction last). It’s like how 8+2÷2 = 9 and not 5BODMAS also sounds like Dumbass

DouglasS
22-12-2020, 01:41 PM
BODMAS also sounds like Dumbass

:joker:

Smithy
22-12-2020, 01:41 PM
1

Denver
22-12-2020, 01:42 PM
I thought 81 haha

UserSince2005
22-12-2020, 01:43 PM
Dense

Crimson Dynamo
22-12-2020, 01:53 PM
i mean i blame the greeks

you have 40, now times it with 0 and you are expected to believe its 0?

F Off I am not having that PISH

:oh:

Niamh.
22-12-2020, 02:05 PM
41?

Niamh.
22-12-2020, 02:07 PM
But I think you have to do multiplication first so it’ll be 40*0 = 0
Then the additions 0+40+1 = 41
As you do not go in the order it’s written you follow the BODMAS order (division first, multiplication second, addition third, subtraction last). It’s like how 8+2÷2 = 9 and not 5

When long sums have no brackets to tell you the order you are meant to follow the BODMAS rules

Exactly

bots
22-12-2020, 02:09 PM
using standard mathematical precedence it's 41

Precedence dictates that its 40 + (40 * 0) + 1 = 41

Beso
22-12-2020, 03:03 PM
1

Nicky91
22-12-2020, 03:15 PM
1

Captain.Remy
22-12-2020, 03:19 PM
It is most definitely 41 for whoever graduated with a minimum of knowledge in maths.

Nicky91
22-12-2020, 03:26 PM
40+40=80x0=0+1=1

DouglasS
22-12-2020, 03:27 PM
It is most definitely 41 for whoever graduated with a minimum of knowledge in maths.

That is a bit rude to be honest. Yes I agree the answer is 41, but I don’t think BODMAS/BIDMAS is used in everyday life.. people will not have ever have revisited this since they were 14... Equations are never set out like this, hence why they ‘trick’ people.

Alf
22-12-2020, 03:29 PM
40+40=80x0=0+1=1I've done that one, they're not having it. Something about DUMBASS

Nicky91
22-12-2020, 03:30 PM
OH WAIT now i get it


40 (40x0=0) 40+1=41


this is one sort of tricky task they should include in the mole, here you definitely can mole really well in, and you wouldn't notice it :joker:

user104658
22-12-2020, 03:40 PM
I'm baffled that anyone over the age of 15 doesn't know that the answer is 41 :umm2:.

40 + (40 x 0) + 1.

Come on guyz.

rusticgal
22-12-2020, 03:42 PM
That is a bit rude to be honest. Yes I agree the answer is 41, but I don’t think BODMAS/BIDMAS is used in everyday life.. people will not have ever have revisited this since they were 14... Equations are never set out like this, hence why they ‘trick’ people.


You are right DouglasS...it is rude. Never heard of BODMAS and I still got my 0 Level in Maths...

Cal.
22-12-2020, 03:44 PM
41 loov

rusticgal
22-12-2020, 03:44 PM
I'm baffled that anyone over the age of 15 doesn't know that the answer is 41 :umm2:.

40 + (40 x 0) + 1.

Come on guyz.


But there are no brackets in the original equation...so at face value the answer is 1 :hee:

James
22-12-2020, 03:48 PM
I said 1 because of the lack of brackets.

rusticgal
22-12-2020, 04:06 PM
I said 1 because of the lack of brackets.

Yes James...that makes us right :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
22-12-2020, 05:13 PM
Notes:
- these rules have changed over the last few decades
- there is still some confusion about 1/3x
- computer software does the order of operations several different ways
- calculators do the order of operations several different ways
- even the symbols may be different -- for example: *, **, ^, /, ÷

Shaun
22-12-2020, 05:25 PM
I said 1 because of the lack of brackets.

Same.

UserSince2005
22-12-2020, 05:31 PM
Are you smarter than a 5th grader?

Crimson Dynamo
22-12-2020, 05:42 PM
I was in the thicko class for maths. I sat next to a guy called Fraser Crow and he had "suck that" tattooed to his chest with an arrow to his nipple. He also used to smoke in music and the teacher was to afraid to stop him. Also in that class was a chap called Broony who died in 5th year from being sick when mortal drunk and he asphyxiated.

:skull:

James
22-12-2020, 05:47 PM
Notes:
- these rules have changed over the last few decades
- there is still some confusion about 1/3x
- computer software does the order of operations several different ways
- calculators do the order of operations several different ways
- even the symbols may be different -- for example: *, **, ^, /, ÷

I was never taught 'BIDMAS' as far as I remember. Brackets first, yes.

https://media.tenor.com/images/3544481a0e46a8cbfc6a1026c026fe67/tenor.png

Jake.
22-12-2020, 05:49 PM
41 because of the lack of brackets

Crimson Dynamo
22-12-2020, 05:55 PM
I was never taught 'BIDMAS' as far as I remember. Brackets first, yes.


no i have never heard of it but smallest boy LT knew it straight away

user104658
22-12-2020, 05:56 PM
Nothing has changed. By the order of operations, you multiply/divide before you add/subtract. There is no alternative way of doing it, the answer is 41.

Brackets being first is to show when you SHOULD add before you multiply, the multiplication does not have to be in brackets to be done first.

e.g.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = 41
(40 + 40) x 0 + 1 = 1
40 + 40 x (0 + 1) = 80

Order of operations and brackets matter for different reasons.

The answer without the brackets being present is, again, 41.

If a calculator or computer programme gives the left-to-right answer (which is 1) It's because its a cheap calculator that hasn't been programmed to do order of operations properly. Full stop. It's not a bloody debate :joker:

Redway
22-12-2020, 05:58 PM
41 because of the lack of brackets

You’ve still got to do multiplication and division before addition and subtraction brackets or no brackets.

Alf
22-12-2020, 05:59 PM
Nothing has changed. By the order of operations, you multiply/divide before you add/subtract. There is no alternative way of doing it, the answer is 41.

Brackets being first is to show when you SHOULD add before you multiply, the multiplication does not have to be in brackets to be done first.

e.g.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = 41
(40 + 40) x 0 + 1 = 1
40 + 40 x (0 + 1) = 80

Order of operations and brackets matter for different reasons.

The answer without the brackets being present is, again, 41.

If a calculator or computer programme gives the left-to-right answer (which is 1) It's because its a cheap calculator that hasn't been programmed to do order of operations properly. Full stop. It's not a bloody debate :joker:Stick to betting odds.

user104658
22-12-2020, 06:02 PM
Stick to betting odds.Don't be salty that I understand maths better than you do Alf... I understand most things better than you do so it's just business as usual.

user104658
22-12-2020, 06:04 PM
To further clarify - official order of operations with the acronyms has been around since the early 20th century. The basic rule that you multiply before you add and subtract has been around since the conception of basic maths rules going back literally thousands of years.

How are people acting like they weren't taught it in the 70's/80's/90's :joker:

Alf
22-12-2020, 06:06 PM
Don't be salty that I understand maths better than you do Alf... I understand most things better than you do so it's just business as usual.You are an under 5, compared to me.

user104658
22-12-2020, 06:14 PM
You are an under 5, compared to me.Everyone is an under 5 compared to you, Alf :hee:

Captain.Remy
22-12-2020, 06:32 PM
That is a bit rude to be honest. Yes I agree the answer is 41, but I don’t think BODMAS/BIDMAS is used in everyday life.. people will not have ever have revisited this since they were 14... Equations are never set out like this, hence why they ‘trick’ people.

I'm French and we don't use BODMAS/BIDMAS, it's common maths knowledge however you call the method to be used. Brackets or not it doesn't change anything. Come on, it's not that hard...And I wasn't even the best in maths.