SNP Nicola Sturgeon broke Covid rules at funeral

[arista]

[Scotland's first minister has apologised
for breaching Covid rules by taking
her face mask off at a wake.

The Scottish Sun has published a photograph
of Nicola Sturgeon standing talking to
three people at a social distance,
but with her face uncovered.
She was attending a wake after the funeral
of a Scottish government
civil servant who died with Covid.
Ms Sturgeon had been wearing a tartan mask
and is said to have taken it off briefly
as she was leaving the venue.
The Scottish government's Covid regulations say
that customers in hospitality venues must
wear a face covering except
when seated - including when they are entering,
exiting and moving around.]




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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55419564


Sack Her

[Kate!]

No don't sack her. Dom Cummings did far worse and kept his job. Leave her be. She's apologised and I'm sure feels terrible and won't do it again.

[arista]

No don't sack her. Dom Cummings did far worse and kept his job. Leave her be. She's apologised and I'm sure feels terrible and won't do it again.


Wrong
he was in a car
Not in Public like this SNP Leader

[LaLaLand]

Tbf she's doing everything else right, she's the correct distance away from those she's speaking to. I'm not bothered by that.

[Kate!]

Wrong
he was in a car
Not in Public like this SNP Leader

No Arista. I don't agree. I still think he was more out of order. X

[Cherie]

Why cant these people follow the rules they expect everyone else to adhere to, she is indoors, wear a mask

[Alf]

She's allowed too, she's privliged.

[Ammi]

...it obviously wasn’t great that she did but I like that she’s offered no excuses in any way...

[joeysteele]

No Arista. I don't agree. I still think he was more out of order. X

With his infected wife In car plus his young child, going to his much older family.

A world away from this.

She should have kept her mask on absolutely.
She did maintain social distancing.
She has apologised.

Remind me when Cummings even hinted at an apology.
Remind me again about him going to test his eyes by doing a 60 mile round trip, again with his wife and young child in the car.

He wasn't sure if that was covid or after effects of it.
What if he'd broken down and other innocent professionals had to come to assist him.
Or had he, his wife collapsed or his child got ill.

It's a world away from Nicola Sturgeon.
This is likely her first error by removing the mask indoors .

However here come the selective Tories all jumping in to bash her as if she'd committed the crime of the century.

How did Johnson and others in government get covid again.
Oh yes, by not even observing social distancing.

He'll get defended though.

Yes she was wrong, then again, I never got how it was fine to take off your masks in pubs and restaurants to eat, plus to talk then too with others too not of your connection in the same building.

She was wrong, she has apologised, however to compare her error as being as bad or worse than Cummings is at best insulting and ridiculous.

[UserSince2005]

give us all the a christmas present and banish her

[user104658]

It was a very dumb thing to do, not much more to say about it than that really.

Comparing a 2-second removal of a mask to Cumming's several-day-long Covid odyssey across Britain is ludicrous though :joker:. He knowingly actually had Covid for a start.

[Kazanne]

[Scotland's first minister has apologised
for breaching Covid rules by taking
her face mask off at a wake.

The Scottish Sun has published a photograph
of Nicola Sturgeon standing talking to
three people at a social distance,
but with her face uncovered.
She was attending a wake after the funeral
of a Scottish government
civil servant who died with Covid.
Ms Sturgeon had been wearing a tartan mask
and is said to have taken it off briefly
as she was leaving the venue.
The Scottish government's Covid regulations say
that customers in hospitality venues must
wear a face covering except
when seated - including when they are entering,
exiting and moving around.]




https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/5371/production/_116216312_scottish-sun.jpg


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55419564


Sack Her

Will she go ? as she demanded others who broke it should go ?

[Kazanne]

Tbf she's doing everything else right, she's the correct distance away from those she's speaking to. I'm not bothered by that.

They were both out of order,no matter where or how long.

[Alf]

As leader of Scotland, I think you Scottish people are supposed to follow her lead.

[Amy Jade]

One rule for them and another for us as per usual.

[Ammi]

It was a very dumb thing to do, not much more to say about it than that really.

Comparing a 2-second removal of a mask to Cumming's several-day-long Covid odyssey across Britain is ludicrous though :joker:. He knowingly actually had Covid for a start.

...yeah, there’s not really a lot to say...she can’t undo it and has unreservedly/ashamedly apologised ...there isn’t really anything else that she can do...but if she ever had Strike 2...?....we could bring back hanging, maybe...

[Alf]

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[Zizu]

It was a very dumb thing to do, not much more to say about it than that really.

Comparing a 2-second removal of a mask to Cumming's several-day-long Covid odyssey across Britain is ludicrous though :joker:. He knowingly actually had Covid for a start.



I thought it was his wife who had Covid ??


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[joeysteele]

I thought it was his wife who had Covid ??


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He wasn't sure if he had too.
As he stated he hadn't felt well while he was there.

Hence his concern on his eyes when he went on a 60 mile round trip to test them with said wife recovering from covid and young child in car too


I cannot see where that even begins to compare to Sturgeon.
No matter what people think about her.

I didn't see or hear Johnson condemning Cummings either.
Although we did get a new fairy story as to testing eyes to listen to.

[Zizu]

He wasn't sure if he had too.

As he stated he hadn't felt well while he was there.



Hence his concern on his eyes when he went on a 60 mile round trip to test them with said wife recovering from covid and young child in car too





I cannot see where that even begins to compare to Sturgeon.

No matter what people think about her.



I didn't see or hear Johnson condemning Cummings either.

Although we did get a new fairy story as to testing eyes to listen to.



Yeah there’s really no comparison.

As regards Cummings ... I got the impression he wasn’t feeling 100% and decided on a 30 minute drive to see how he was before even considering embarking on a 10 hour drive ... at the time I felt it was a fairly reasonable thing to do tbh

We will never know the real truth. ...

I do feel that everybody’s went well over the top making up endless ( unfunny) jokes about the latest eye test ..


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[rusticgal]

Just because she has apologised makes no difference at all. If we all went around without masks only to apologise when we get caught...where would we be :shrug:

[joeysteele]

Just because she has apologised makes no difference at all. If we all went around without masks only to apologise when we get caught...where would we be :shrug:

Well an apology from her is more than was ever even hinted at from Cummings never mind given.

It was only briefly too she removed it apparently.
Still wrong but if apologies really make no difference, there's not much hope for anyone on anything then to be apologising for anything.

That would be a sad World indeed.

[DouglasS]

To be brutally honest this is a tiny break, I’ve seen my dad, mother, sister, brother do exactly the same at a restaurant when standing up to go by the bathroom. It is easily forgotten when in a restaurant or a public place as it’s not that normal. As other people around you are also not wearing masks because they are seated, there is no reminder. To me it just seems the case of being human and forgetting for a few seconds

The social distancing is clearly seen and has been instilled in us for much longer, making it hard to forget. If she was up in there grill then I would be annoyed/frustrated, but she isn’t and It’s a tiny rule break and I’m not going to condemn someone when the vast majority of the public have done the same at one point or another (forget to put a mask on for some seconds when standing up to move when previously seated - I have done it, and I think a lot would be lying if they once had not forgotten if they’ve been fortunate enough to visit restaurants / other venues... difference is her one mistake is going to be caught on camera..)

That’s just my two cents anyways

[Morgan.]

Wrong
he was in a car
Not in Public like this SNP Leader

He had covid she didn’t

[bots]

So because it's a leader that people like, it's just a little break of the rules and doesn't matter? Got it

[Crimson Dynamo]

has anyone on this forum not gone in a shop and thought "oh sh1t my mask" and had to go get it, get it out a pocket?

or stood too close to someone or passed them in an aisle too close


I mean it would be like having a go at a politician for going 75 on a motorway

[Zizu]

Just because she has apologised makes no difference at all. If we all went around without masks only to apologise when we get caught...where would we be :shrug:



In schools... ( that’s what a selfish minority do )


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[Nicky91]

sack this silly woman

[Zizu]

To be brutally honest this is a tiny break, I’ve seen my dad, mother, sister, brother do exactly the same at a restaurant when standing up to go by the bathroom. It is easily forgotten when in a restaurant or a public place as it’s not that normal. As other people around you are also not wearing masks because they are seated, there is no reminder. To me it just seems the case of being human and forgetting for a few seconds

The social distancing is clearly seen and has been instilled in us for much longer, making it hard to forget. If she was up in there grill then I would be annoyed/frustrated, but she isn’t and It’s a tiny rule break and I’m not going to condemn someone when the vast majority of the public have done the same at one point or another (forget to put a mask on for some seconds when standing up to move when previously seated - I have done it, and I think a lot would be lying if they once had not forgotten if they’ve been fortunate enough to visit restaurants / other venues... difference is her one mistake is going to be caught on camera..)

That’s just my two cents anyways



That’s a pretty perfect take on things to be fair


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[Tom4784]

She's dumb for doing it. If we lived in a just world, she would have been punished for this just like Dominic Cummings should have been but if the Tories are immune to consequences, they can't expect Nicola Sturgeon to face them just because they oppose her.

They're all dicks for not following regulations that they put into motion. The rules should apply to everyone, but they clearly don't.

[Mystic Mock]

Wear a mask it's that god damn simple.

I'd have more sympathy if she was struggling with the social distancing aspect of it all, not the easiest part.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

It was a very dumb thing to do, not much more to say about it than that really.

Comparing a 2-second removal of a mask to Cumming's several-day-long Covid odyssey across Britain is ludicrous though :joker:. He knowingly actually had Covid for a start.

Oh Cummings situation was far worse, no question about that from me.

[rusticgal]

Well an apology from her is more than was ever even hinted at from Cummings never mind given.




Cummings was a disgrace....Nicola Sturgeon has more to lose imo. Its easy to forget and have moments like that...it wasnt pre planned like Cummings and she has done all she can do. Its great to apologise but then sometimes apologies count for nothing and when you are in such a position you shouldnt put yourself in any position where you have to apologise.
But as its Christmas I might forgive her even though I dont care for her much :hee:

[rusticgal]

has anyone on this forum not gone in a shop and thought "oh sh1t my mask" and had to go get it, get it out a pocket?

or stood too close to someone or passed them in an aisle too close


I mean it would be like having a go at a politician for going 75 on a motorway


Yup....but I dont get paid mega bucks to lecture my countrymen to wear masks :laugh:

[LukeB]

Wear a mask it's that god damn simple.

I'd have more sympathy if she was struggling with the social distancing aspect of it all, not the easiest part.:joker:

It is simple but it’s also an easily mistake to do. If she had covid and knew about it then it will be a different story. When I was at my dads funeral the other week a mask was the last thing on my mind and I went **** my mask and put it on. Just one of those things really. She was still distancing herself

[Mystic Mock]

It is simple but it’s also an easily mistake to do. If she had covid and knew about it then it will be a different story. When I was at my dads funeral the other week a mask was the last thing on my mind and I went **** my mask and put it on. Just one of those things really. She was still distancing herself

I get what you're saying, but to me the Mask part is the first step for me as it stops me from potentially breathing on anyone if I have Covid.

I suppose it's different mindsets, but the social distancing aspect is the part that I struggle with the most to remember.:joker:

[Mitchell]

To be brutally honest this is a tiny break, I’ve seen my dad, mother, sister, brother do exactly the same at a restaurant when standing up to go by the bathroom. It is easily forgotten when in a restaurant or a public place as it’s not that normal. As other people around you are also not wearing masks because they are seated, there is no reminder. To me it just seems the case of being human and forgetting for a few seconds

The social distancing is clearly seen and has been instilled in us for much longer, making it hard to forget. If she was up in there grill then I would be annoyed/frustrated, but she isn’t and It’s a tiny rule break and I’m not going to condemn someone when the vast majority of the public have done the same at one point or another (forget to put a mask on for some seconds when standing up to move when previously seated - I have done it, and I think a lot would be lying if they once had not forgotten if they’ve been fortunate enough to visit restaurants / other venues... difference is her one mistake is going to be caught on camera..)

That’s just my two cents anyways

Completely this, I really can’t see this as more than a mistake, rather than a deliberate rule-break like so many seen recently, I’ll save my anger for them.

[Kazanne]

So because it's a leader that people like, it's just a little break of the rules and doesn't matter? Got it

100% Nail on the head Bots :wavey:

[Kazanne]

To be brutally honest this is a tiny break, I’ve seen my dad, mother, sister, brother do exactly the same at a restaurant when standing up to go by the bathroom. It is easily forgotten when in a restaurant or a public place as it’s not that normal. As other people around you are also not wearing masks because they are seated, there is no reminder. To me it just seems the case of being human and forgetting for a few seconds

The social distancing is clearly seen and has been instilled in us for much longer, making it hard to forget. If she was up in there grill then I would be annoyed/frustrated, but she isn’t and It’s a tiny rule break and I’m not going to condemn someone when the vast majority of the public have done the same at one point or another (forget to put a mask on for some seconds when standing up to move when previously seated - I have done it, and I think a lot would be lying if they once had not forgotten if they’ve been fortunate enough to visit restaurants / other venues... difference is her one mistake is going to be caught on camera..)

That’s just my two cents anyways

That tiny 'break' means nothing she could still spread it in those few minutes, I do agree with your post other than the excuse made that its just a tiny 'break' when if it had been Boris more would have condemned it.

[Oliver_W]

She's generally a bit ghastly but does this really matter? I'd imagine it's a one off, I'm sure we'd have heard endlessly about it if she'd done it before.

[DouglasS]

That tiny 'break' means nothing she could still spread it in those few minutes, I do agree with your post other than the excuse made that its just a tiny 'break' when if it had been Boris more would have condemned it.

Oh for sure, had it been Boris people would be at his throat! I would bet on it (including by those who are forgiving of Sturrgon for this mistake, I would hold the same opinion though, not wearing a mask whilst standing up from a table doesn’t deserve a witch hunt imo). I think government ministers (all of them) are held to a top high standard, and all of them make mistakes, it’s just caught in the public eye. It’s like a witch hunt sadly, especially for any conservative member, they will be blamed for almost anything sadly

[thesheriff443]

An honest mistake is simply that.

Perfect human beings don’t exist I’m afraid.

[Beso]

[Scotland's first minister has apologised
for breaching Covid rules by taking
her face mask off at a wake.

The Scottish Sun has published a photograph
of Nicola Sturgeon standing talking to
three people at a social distance,
but with her face uncovered.
She was attending a wake after the funeral
of a Scottish government
civil servant who died with Covid.
Ms Sturgeon had been wearing a tartan mask
and is said to have taken it off briefly
as she was leaving the venue.
The Scottish government's Covid regulations say
that customers in hospitality venues must
wear a face covering except
when seated - including when they are entering,
exiting and moving around.]




https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/5371/production/_116216312_scottish-sun.jpg


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55419564


Sack Her

I hope she didnt touch her face after fisting that chair.

[Mitchell]

That tiny 'break' means nothing she could still spread it in those few minutes, I do agree with your post other than the excuse made that its just a tiny 'break' when if it had been Boris more would have condemned it.

I think the difference being that Nicola has been critical of any of her MP’s breaking rules, so it’s believable it being an honest mistake, where as Boris has let multiple of his staff, family etc break the rules with no consequences, with Cummingsgate being the main reason people stopped paying attention to covid rules.

[rusticgal]

That tiny 'break' means nothing she could still spread it in those few minutes, I do agree with your post other than the excuse made that its just a tiny 'break' when if it had been Boris more would have condemned it.


Exactly..

[joeysteele]

So because it's a leader that people like, it's just a little break of the rules and doesn't matter? Got it

Does that not happen the other way when it's a leader certain people don't like.
Or just apply to leaders of others parties not Tories.

I rarely ever for instance, like any leader, I was a Con once, never liked any leader.
I voted Lib Dem in 2010, I couldn't stand Clegg.

I haven't REALLY liked any leader of Labour or Con since 2010.

I admit I do admire Sturgeon for her REAL, not put on compassion.
I think she's the best of all leaders of any Party at present.

Yes, I again state she was wrong to remove her mask.
I'd guess she has tested negative when tested.

However contrast her genuine apology today and publicly at the start of her press conference on covid.
With the farce of Cummings.
Who was fully supported by Johnson too.

I responded to Kate raising that point.
It's not about just supporting a leader that's liked.
Crikey, if that was the case, I'd likely have in the past not have supported any leader.

Haven't liked a single one right from Blair onwards of all Parties.
However certainly, I admire Nicola Sturgeon's covid actions.
Her genuine compassion for those left bereaved and determination to do her best and quickly.
So yes, I would accept her apology because I also believe it's as heartfelt as her compassion to those bereaved due to covid.

[Beso]

She looks like shes borrowed trumps hair.