Should it be/or is it. Legal to be able to be sacked for works group chat stuff.

[Beso]

It's kind of like an extra stress for workers to deal with. Many will hold back thier true feelings and not say stuff that needs said because they may fear the sack.


Should employers be allowed to add this extra pressure regarding their employees personal behaviour traits upon its work force that already has enough human face to face interaction to judge.

[Josy]

Surely it depends on what exactly has been posted?

[Niamh.]

Surely it depends on what exactly has been posted?.

[Crimson Dynamo]

its all about blame

if someone more senior may get the blame

you are toast

[Beso]

Surely it depends on what exactly has been posted?

Or what has been signed beforehand:shrug:

[user104658]

It depends what's been said. Anything involving bullying or mocking other staff, or any type of harassment, then obviously yes.

[user104658]

If it's complaining about the company or how it's run/things you disagree with/decisions that have been made then no.

[thesheriff443]

People get hired on personality and fired for it.
Do your job and go home, leave work at work.

[Cherie]

Don’t commit anything negative to a post on WhatsApp about your boss or colleagues...someone will always squeal/share

If you have an opinion, voice it one on one then it’s your word against theirs

[Beso]

If it's complaining about the company or how it's run/things you disagree with/decisions that have been made then no.

This is where I'm coming from as well..so maybe we should include "used against you in future decisions"


Imagine always being the moaner in group chat and theres a redundancy coming up.

[Beso]

People get hired on personality and fired for it.
Do your job and go home, leave work at work.

But it's a chat set up by the employers, I wake up and see myself as the last comment all the time.

It's a stress I dont need.:shrug:..nor should I have it forced upon me.

[Beso]

its all about blame

if someone more senior may get the blame

you are toast



I have to self isolate again cause tom has tested positive(Tom's my new trainee) so I'm off until next tuesday.

I went into the engineer works group chat that our work set up and told them all straight that I'm not contagious and I wished them all a happy new year and to stay strong tomorrow as they have to work.

On new years eve as well..can you imagine!!


I may be toast, cause I'm thinking of claiming for endangering my life.

[thesheriff443]

Post as little as possible parm

[Cherie]

But it's a chat set up by the employers, I wake up and see myself as the last comment all the time.

It's a stress I dont need.:shrug:..nor should I have it forced upon me.

You can exit the group? The thought of being in a WhatsApp group with my work colleagues gives me the shivers, bad enough they can get me via email, on my phone...no

[bots]

whatsapp is not the environment to share your thoughts on work after a night on the sauce, that's a certainty. You should consider the chat a formal method of communication, that is there on the record for future reference. Only say what you would be happy to say in a formal work setting. The rest is up to you

[Lee.]

At my last job, we all had to sign a contract agreeing never to slag the company/management/colleagues/customers off on social media.
Not a group chat but one of my colleagues called our manager “a fat prick” on Facebook and it got back to him and she was sacked.

[Marsh.]

We have a work group chat but it's literally just to pass work related information on between shifts so I dunno. :shrug:

[arista]

I have to self isolate again cause tom has tested positive(Tom's my new trainee) so I'm off until next tuesday.

I went into the engineer works group chat that our work set up and told them all straight that I'm not contagious and I wished them all a happy new year and to stay strong tomorrow as they have to work.

On new years eve as well..can you imagine!!


I may be toast, cause I'm thinking of claiming for endangering my life.


Thats OK
it's happening to loads of workers.
Its not like you want to harm him.

[arista]

At my last job, we all had to sign a contract agreeing never to slag the company/management/colleagues/customers off on social media.
Not a group chat but one of my colleagues called our manager “a fat prick” on Facebook and it got back to him and she was sacked.



Yes a Pre-Contract Signed
is wise.


Any that break it should be Sacked

[arista]

You can exit the group? The thought of being in a WhatsApp group with my work colleagues gives me the shivers, bad enough they can get me via email, on my phone...no



Yes Dodgy

[user104658]

whatsapp is not the environment to share your thoughts on work after a night on the sauce, that's a certainty. You should consider the chat a formal method of communication, that is there on the record for future reference. Only say what you would be happy to say in a formal work setting. The rest is up to youWell yes staying professional to a degree is obviously a must. "I totally disagree with Bob's decision to _______, it's just never going to work" = fine. "Why has Bob gone ahead with this sh** what a daft fat ****ing turd!" = Prolly not.

[Kizzy]

Omg I can't even imagine if we had one...none of us would last the week! :laugh:

[Ammi]

...I guess that it’s just not a ‘place of trust or confidence’ because it’s too conflicting with work and employer loyalties as well...(...in some cases...)...and as has been said, it would depend on what was said and also what the job was...I know someone who lost their job but their job was in a position of public trust ...

...I doubt that anyone doesn’t let off steam at times with work related stuff but a group chat isn’t that secure place to do it, I feel...

[Ammi]

Omg I can't even imagine if we had one...none of us would last the week! :laugh:

...Kizzy is innocent...

[Kizzy]

...Kizzy is innocent...

I'd be the first out the door haha! My manager is a twonk, half my colleagues are wankers and the company is crap. ;)

[Garfie]

A good number of staff where I work set up a group chat, and were disciplined because it turned into a bitchfest, and gradually crossed the line into bullying, character assassination and false information being shared about other staff who were unaware of the group chat.

I'm not entirely sure how senior management became aware of it but I got the impression someone from the group was eventually targeted.

My advice would be to never put anything into writing about the company or other staff that you wouldn't want revealed. Keep it verbal with a very small number of staff you trust completely, or if you have a serious issue, address it professionally in the work environment.

I never saw the content of the group chat but I know the confidence and self-esteem of some staff was destroyed by both the personal and professional attacks. My only guess is that a mob mentality must have taken hold.

[Cherie]

We have a work group chat but it's literally just to pass work related information on between shifts so I dunno. :shrug:

That is how it is meant to work..Garfies example is what is can turn into :laugh:

[bots]

we use Slack for work messaging etc and it's proven to be remarkably professional :laugh:

[Beso]

I'd be the first out the door haha! My manager is a twonk, half my colleagues are wankers and the company is crap. ;)

I often leave tibb open on the works computer, I hope you dont.:joker:

[user104658]

we use Slack for work messaging etc and it's proven to be remarkably professional :laugh:

Ahh I miss slack. We transitioned to MS Teams, because that's what most organizations use. It was a good decision in hindsight, given that in 2020 pretty much all communication with other organizations has been online via Teams, HOWEVER... Slack was just so much nicer to use. Teams has improved a lot over the last 12 months but it's still trash and I wish we still used Slack :bawling:.

[rusticgal]

We had a work forum...its obvious management will moderate it. You just had to be very careful how you worded things. Its common sense...
However when a company tracks and takes action on things posted on Facebook etc...I think that is wrong.

[Marsh.]

That is how it is meant to work..Garfies example is what is can turn into :laugh:

Oh we have a bitch when we talk face to face. Would never leave evidence. :smug:

[Cherie]

Oh we have a bitch when we talk face to face. Would never leave evidence. :smug:

Of course, that’s normal :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

Of course, that’s normal :laugh:

What a xxxxxxx ffxxxxx@xxxx/xxxx &xxxxxxxccc

Oh hi Cherie

[Kizzy]

I often leave tibb open on the works computer, I hope you dont.:joker:

We can't use work comps for anything other than work :/ I read the news on them when it's not busy. I said it's either that or sit looking at my phone, and how profesh does that look?
My argument was they can't expect us to be at work for 12hrs with no access to information during a pandemic...they agreed lol

Can't you do it in break times?.. what break times!?

(Manager scuttles away)

[Beso]

What if nhs workers were sacked for slagging off their bosses, and working conditions during covid, in tweets and WhatsApp etc.

[user104658]

What if nhs workers were sacked for slagging off their bosses, and working conditions during covid, in tweets and WhatsApp etc.Again complaining about working conditions and bad decisions made by bosses should be totally fine - what isn't fine is turning that into a baseless ad-hominem.

"I think Betty made a stupid decision and we're all suffering for it" - valid.

"Betty made a stupid decision what a daft fugly old ****" - disciplinary time.

If you want to be doubly careful, say "the management team" instead of "Bob and Betty".

[rusticgal]

A good number of staff where I work set up a group chat, and were disciplined because it turned into a bitchfest, and gradually crossed the line into bullying, character assassination and false information being shared about other staff who were unaware of the group chat.

I'm not entirely sure how senior management became aware of it but I got the impression someone from the group was eventually targeted.

My advice would be to never put anything into writing about the company or other staff that you wouldn't want revealed. Keep it verbal with a very small number of staff you trust completely, or if you have a serious issue, address it professionally in the work environment.

I never saw the content of the group chat but I know the confidence and self-esteem of some staff was destroyed by both the personal and professional attacks. My only guess is that a mob mentality must have taken hold.


Sounds like this forum sometimes..

[Beso]

Again complaining about working conditions and bad decisions made by bosses should be totally fine - what isn't fine is turning that into a baseless ad-hominem.

"I think Betty made a stupid decision and we're all suffering for it" - valid.

"Betty made a stupid decision what a daft fugly old ****" - disciplinary time.

If you want to be doubly careful, say "the management team" instead of "Bob and Betty".



What if there is one bad apple amongst a team of brilliant Bob n Betty's.. shouldn't a work chat allow you to single out that apple?, if the work set up the chat room/facillity/room

As long as you don't call them body odour bob or stuff, then it should be allowed..

[user104658]

What if there is one bad apple amongst a team of brilliant Bob n Betty's.. shouldn't a work chat allow you to single out that apple?, if the work set up the chat room/facillity/room

As long as you don't call them body odour bob or stuff, then it should be allowed..If it's one bad apple then the right thing to do would be to go to the rest of management about that bad apple, and they would do something about it. If you can't go to them, or they wouldn't do anything about it, then it ain't just one bad apple.