Will you get the vaccine?

[Daniel.]

When offered, will you get the vaccine?

[Barry.]

Yes

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes

[Daniel.]

Are you not worried? I'm meant to be getting it in February as I work in social work and I'm very hesitant.

[Barry.]

Are you not worried? I'm meant to be getting it in February as I work in social work and I'm very hesitant.

If it was dangerous they wouldn’t be making it. I mean I understand why you are hesitant but tbh I need to get it for my lungs so I can’t afford to say no

[Scarlett.]

If offered, yes.

[bots]

yes

[AnnieK]

I was unsure at first but as its the route out of this, I will get it when I'm offered.

[Daniel.]

Are there any possible side effects?

[Novo]

na i have a weird thing with vaccinations, i was ill for about 6 months when i have the manengties one which has always put me off, that was the last one i had

[Jake.]

Honestly don’t think that this is going to go away until the majority of people are vaccinated so yes

[Beso]

I'd rather die.

[Ramsay]

It's the only way out of this and there were no terrible side effects in the trials or so far so yes of course. Trust doctors and scientists over Conspiracy theoriests people PLEASE

[Daniel.]

It's the only way out of this and there were no terrible side effects in the trials or so far so yes of course. Trust doctors and scientists over Conspiracy theoriests people PLEASE

I'm more worried about long term effects.

[joeysteele]

I'm likely a long way off being offered it but as soon as I am yes.

[Cherie]

Yes,

[Cherie]

I'm more worried about long term effects.

When you think of the stuff we put in our bodies via alcohol and junk food, will take my chances with this

[Daniel.]

WELL I need to make up my mind soon my work is being offered it next month and I'm still undecided

[thesheriff443]

Il take it like a man

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh I'm nervous about taking it, but I do go out quite a bit so I feel like I need to take the Vaccine.

[LaLaLand]

Absolutely.

[Jack_]

By the time I’m offered it I probably won’t need it (because most people will have had it)

So maybe not, but that’s not because I’m worried about the vaccine (it’s safe), but more if I can avoid a needle, I will :joker:

[Elliot]

I mean realistically, there’s no way of knowing the long term effects of covid either..I’d rather take my chances with a vaccine

[Ramsay]

I'm more worried about long term effects.

Vaccines tend to not have any long term effects past a few weeks anyway especially mRNA vaccines which once exposed have a really short half life. They don't stay in your body for long at all.
If you're getting the pfizer or mordena vaccine it's the mRNA vaccine you're not getting injected with the bad part of the virus like before to have your body develop immunity. Here's a couple links bleow that goes through how mRNA vaccines work.
This is an absolute revelation in the vaccine world and I can't wait to see what can come from this. I hate to bring up real life experience into it because anyone can lie on the internet but trust me I'm in my final year of Chemical and Pharmaceutical Science we have studied vaccines in detail. People here have me on FB so they can go look at my page if it needs confirmation :laugh:
It's completely understable to be wary because it may seem rushed also incase you are but really regular vaccines take so much longer to develop as a cost effective measure. It's cheaper to spread out the trials over 10 or so years. Covid tho is such a widespread problem that they're happy to throw the cash at it while having simultaneous trials going on plus most of the work was already done from SARS back in the early 2000s they just had to pick up from that. 60k+ or so people have taken it for the trials plus the millions that have already taken it in the general public, you are probably a normal healthy regular member of the population so you can sit back and see the effects of the rest of the population before it's your turn if you choose to take it.
When side effects of these vaccines which may come up which may be bad because no matter what you'll come across people who take a bad reaction to a foreign substance going into your body, it will be such a small case, a way small percentage than the number than actually die from covid.
No one wants to mess this up and be known as the company that ****ed up so they're all really careful with it. Sorry for the essay haha Im not a fully fledged doctor or scientist but Any more questions let me know if you want on here or PM, same goes for anyone here :)

https://www.cas.org/blog/covid-mrna-vaccine
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/covid-19-vaccines-were-developed-in-record-time-but-are-these-game-changers-safe-150249

[Ramsay]

I mean realistically, there’s no way of knowing the long term effects of covid either..I’d rather take my chances with a vaccine

Agreed, theres cases of people not getting their smell and taste back and even people's lungs which are really messed up from it. I know a guy who got covid back last summer and he still can't taste food it's just texture to him and he's only mid 20s. These are actual known long term effects of covid

[UserSince2005]

I’m vegan.

[Ramsay]

I’m vegan.

Haah I originally said vegan friendly but forgot pfizer and moderna actually didn't skip animal trials even though that's the word on the street

[user104658]

When presidents and monarchs are getting it you can be fairly sure it's safe. Also my wife's already had it so yeah I'll take it when it's offered :joker:.

[Ramsay]

When presidents and monarchs are getting it you can be fairly sure it's safe. Also my wife's already had it so yeah I'll take it when it's offered :joker:.

Conspiracy theoriests were like "I'll take it when politicans take it on tv!!"
*Politicans take it on tv*
Conspiracy theorist "they took a fake vaccine!n"

Can't ****ing win

[user104658]

Agreed, theres cases of people not getting their smell and taste back and even people's lungs which are really messed up from it. I know a guy who got covid back last summer and he still can't taste food it's just texture to him and he's only mid 20s. These are actual known long term effects of covidHonestly people will think this sounds minor but it's ****ing miserable. I have a sinus issue that means I lose my sense of taste every time I get a cold - it's actually one of the first symptoms (I eat something and it tastes like cardboard, and I know that I'll wake up the next day feeling crap)...

... it's awful. Eating at all becomes just a chore, my wife has to encourage me to have my dinner at all because I just can't be arsed sitting feeling like I'm chewing on air for half an hour. I get really frustrated after 2 or 3 days of it and the longest it ever lasts is about 5 days... I honestly can't imagine it for months on end.

[Ramsay]

Honestly people will think this sounds minor but it's ****ing miserable. I have a sinus issue that means I lose my sense of taste every time I get a cold - it's actually one of the first symptoms (I eat something and it tastes like cardboard, and I know that I'll wake up the next day feeling crap)...

... it's awful. Eating at all becomes just a chore, my wife has to encourage me to have my dinner at all because I just can't be arsed sitting feeling like I'm chewing on air for half an hour. I get really frustrated after 2 or 3 days of it and the longest it ever lasts is about 5 days... I honestly can't imagine it for months on end.

Yeah my friend was really depressed about it for a while there afraid it'll never come back but he's sorta almost okay with it now? He says less takeaways :laugh: but I can't imagine not being able to taste for that long. Half a year now at this stage. Crazy

[Withano]

Got mine booked fot January 25th

[GoldHeart]

Yeah I will, and I don't understand what the ANTI vaccinators want as a solution .

[Ramsay]

Yeah I will, and I don't understand what the ANTI vaccinators want as a solution .

They tend to want to just live with it with no lockdowns, pretty much sacrifice the old and people with underlying health conditions cus they want to go on the piss. 2 million+ deaths a year to this is nothing to them

[GoldHeart]

They tend to want to just live with it with no lockdowns, pretty much sacrifice the old and people with underlying health conditions cus they want to go on the piss. 2 million+ deaths a year to this is nothing to them

And yet if everyone had that same attitude , I'm pretty sure the ANTI vaccinators would still be angry and moan about the situation .

I understand people being worried,but doctors and medical professionals themselves have took the vaccine with no serious side effects , so I wish people would stop being so sceptical .

[smudgie]

Ready and waiting.

[Ramsay]

And yet if everyone had that same attitude , I'm pretty sure the ANTI vaccinators would still be angry and moan about the situation.

Exactly, was friends with a guy who is into every Conspiracy theory you could think of. Not friends with him anymore because he just insults everyone over it and I called him out on FB over him constantly posting about hydroxychloroquine. Anyway back in December 2019 when covid was first found he was posting how it's airborne and he was wearing a mask around town and he was shocked we weren't taking it serious.
Once lockdowns and that happened he suddenly was posting saying it was fake and how it's just the flu and blah blah. Just shows that they just want to look like they're smarter than everyone else and everyone is the sheep and are asleep except them.
Puts a bad name in actual Conspiracy theoriests who dive deep into JFK, aliens etc like harmless ****. Bring back flat earthers!!
Sorry for going off topic :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Exactly, was friends with a guy who is into every Conspiracy theory you could think of. Not friends with him anymore because he just insults everyone over it and I called him out on FB over him constantly posting about hydroxychloroquine. Anyway back in December 2019 when covid was first found he was posting how it's airborne and he was wearing a mask around town and he was shocked we weren't taking it serious.
Once lockdowns and that happened he suddenly was posting saying it was fake and how it's just the flu and blah blah. Just shows that they just want to look like they're smarter than everyone else and everyone is the sheep and are asleep except them.
Puts a bad name in actual Conspiracy theoriests who dive deep into JFK, aliens etc like harmless ****. Bring back flat earthers!!
Sorry for going off topic :laugh:

Yeah I heard some people on live stream bashing the vaccine and saying they won't take it yet in the same breath say they are frustrated being in lockdown again :rolleyes:.

I can't even be bothered to argue with people like that ,if they want to sulk and not take the vaccine then that's their problem . But what I worry is the outcome of that decision but I guess time will tell .

I ignore the conspiracy theories, if you go too far down the rabbit hole it can be hard to get out if you fill your head with all that.

[Ramsay]

.

I ignore the conspiracy theories, if you go too far down the rabbit hole it can be hard to get out if you fill your head with all that.

Aye for sure. I go on the Conspiracy subreddit to just have an idea of what those people think cus I do find it interesting and oh man the stuff they come out with and believe and upvote with no source at all. That woman that first got the vaccine in the UK. Someone had a post how she had a heart problem after taking the vaccine. Hundreds of upvotes and I commented asking if they believe everything they read online without a source just to suit their agenda and I got downvoted big time.
No surprise it was bull**** she's doing fine. it's scary how easily people fall into it to try and explain the unexplainable cus it's so much easier to think someone released the virus to lock everywhere down instead of it just being a random thing that happened because randomness is scary! Loads of virologists have warned since SARs like we got lucky with bird and swine flu, this was bound to happen.
Conspiracies are gonna be the new religion

[Alf]

Probably not. Unless I'm pinned down and forced it or if I really need to take it for some emergency.

I can survive without travelling to other countries, I've survived for 43 years so far on that front. A few more won't make a difference.

[rusticgal]

Without a doubt....

[Ramsay]

Probably not. Unless I'm pinned down and forced it or if I really need to take it for some emergency.

I can survive without travelling to other countries, I've survived for 43 years so far on that front. A few more won't make a difference.

What's your reason for not taking it when available?

[Alf]

What's your reason for not taking it when available?I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.

[GoldHeart]

Well until i hear evidence and proof that it has terrible effects , i'm going to trust it .

[Ramsay]

I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.

Why don't you trust it? Were you vaccinated for other things?

[Alf]

Why don't you trust it? Were you vaccinated for other things?I'm just happy to volunteer to go to the back of the queue. And when it comes to my turn, maybe I'll take it, I'll deal with that issue when it comes to it. Just be thankful for volunteers like me, letting you go first.

[Ramsay]

I'm just happy to volunteer to go to the back of the queue. And when it comes to my turn, maybe I'll take it, I don't yet, I'll deal with that issue when it comes to it. Be thankful for volunteers like me letting you go first.

That's fair, watch how everyone else is! But you have a much higher percentage of dying from covid than getting side effects from the vaccine.

[Novo]

I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.

Djokovic has been the most complete athlete on the planet for over a decade and he swears against having things put into his body, got to go with stance haven't you Alf? we will get a bunker somewhere like 10 cloverfield lane and come out when the lethal side effects have finished the UK off

[Ammi]

Vaccines tend to not have any long term effects past a few weeks anyway especially mRNA vaccines which once exposed have a really short half life. They don't stay in your body for long at all.
If you're getting the pfizer or mordena vaccine it's the mRNA vaccine you're not getting injected with the bad part of the virus like before to have your body develop immunity. Here's a couple links bleow that goes through how mRNA vaccines work.
This is an absolute revelation in the vaccine world and I can't wait to see what can come from this. I hate to bring up real life experience into it because anyone can lie on the internet but trust me I'm in my final year of Chemical and Pharmaceutical Science we have studied vaccines in detail. People here have me on FB so they can go look at my page if it needs confirmation :laugh:
It's completely understable to be wary because it may seem rushed also incase you are but really regular vaccines take so much longer to develop as a cost effective measure. It's cheaper to spread out the trials over 10 or so years. Covid tho is such a widespread problem that they're happy to throw the cash at it while having simultaneous trials going on plus most of the work was already done from SARS back in the early 2000s they just had to pick up from that. 60k+ or so people have taken it for the trials plus the millions that have already taken it in the general public, you are probably a normal healthy regular member of the population so you can sit back and see the effects of the rest of the population before it's your turn if you choose to take it.
When side effects of these vaccines which may come up which may be bad because no matter what you'll come across people who take a bad reaction to a foreign substance going into your body, it will be such a small case, a way small percentage than the number than actually die from covid.
No one wants to mess this up and be known as the company that ****ed up so they're all really careful with it. Sorry for the essay haha Im not a fully fledged doctor or scientist but Any more questions let me know if you want on here or PM, same goes for anyone here :)

https://www.cas.org/blog/covid-mrna-vaccine
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/covid-19-vaccines-were-developed-in-record-time-but-are-these-game-changers-safe-150249


...Karl...:love:...wonderful/reassuring post...I know someone who is a vaccinologist and who has worked on the Oxford vaccine and he’s always pretty much said the same as you...in that the vaccines go have gone through so many tests and would not be given unless completely safe, but obviously there will never be ‘100%’ in anything, there would always be a small percentage whose body’s reacted...anyway, yeah I’ll for sure have it because for me, the restricted connections atm are largely what form the meaning of life...

...anyways, good luck with your future, it’s a hugely interesting thing you’ve chosen...:love:..

[Kizzy]

When you think of the stuff we put in our bodies via alcohol and junk food, will take my chances with this

Ive had this with so many people, recently.
I say, have you ever had a mystery meat kebab? Dropped an E? Vaped/ smoked?

There's not one person who hasn't at some point put a substance in their body that they weren't sure how they would react to.
None of those who have said they would refuse were the 'my body is a temple' types either, far far from it

[caprimint]

No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health conditions.

[Kizzy]

No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health problems.

But you can catch it and pass it to the immunosuppressed that can't have the vaccine.

And there is nothing to say that a healthy person can't be seriously affected by this albeit rare, or end up with 'long covid' that affects all age groups.

[caprimint]

But you can catch it and pass it to the immunosuppressed that can't have the vaccine.

And there is nothing to say that a healthy person can't be seriously affected by this albeit rare, or end up with 'long covid' that affects all age groups.
Well the virus itself will begin to fade out eventually anyway when the majority of people have been vaccinated and others are not affected by it, so that's probably a minor/non-issue.

Of course it can happen but I'm not personally bothered or worried about it.

[Kizzy]

Well the virus itself will begin to fade out eventually anyway when the majority of people have been vaccinated and others are not affected by it, so that's probably a minor/non-issue.

Of course it can happen but I'm not personally bothered or worried about it.

Sounds a tad blasé. ..but it's honest

[Nicky91]

not sure yet (but i still have the time, since i am probably among last to be vaccinated anyway)

[hijaxers]

Well the virus itself will begin to fade out eventually anyway when the majority of people have been vaccinated and others are not affected by it, so that's probably a minor/non-issue.

Of course it can happen but I'm not personally bothered or worried about it.

I hope you plan on holidaying in UK because i think you'll have difficulty overseas with no reason for not being vaccinated.

I can't wait to get mine asap please.

[Cherie]

I hope you plan on holidaying in UK because i think you'll have difficulty overseas with no reason for not being vaccinated.

I can't wait to get mine asap please.

Yes good point, even if you don’t think you will suffer with the virus or pass it on, if you plan to travel that will entail covid testing 72 hours before you go and return for some time into the future

[caprimint]

I hope you plan on holidaying in UK because i think you'll have difficulty overseas with no reason for not being vaccinated.

I can't wait to get mine asap please.
I won't be going abroad for some years+ so yeah I'm not bothered at all.

[Cherie]

I'm just happy to volunteer to go to the back of the queue. And when it comes to my turn, maybe I'll take it, I'll deal with that issue when it comes to it. Just be thankful for volunteers like me, letting you go first.

I am thankful to the true volunteers who put themselves forward for trials :tongue:

[Novo]

you are a brave and Honorable man Alf and i'll clap for you and rattle the pans and pots on Thursday Evening, keep up the efforts

[Vicky.]

I would get the oxford one. The pfizer one..seems pointless as it appears to not even stop infection/spreading?

I also figure natural immunity will sort me til I am offered, if I ever get offered, given I had it already (and it WAS luckily just like flu, for 2 day then fine, though have 'long covid' apparently as still coughing sometimes..most of the house tested positive and showed not even a cough, thats not me saying covid IS flu though)

Am likely last on the list for the vaccine anyway, I figure they will decide soon it will only be the vulnerable who get it, like the flu one. Also I think it might turn into an annual thing, that just goes along with the flu vaccine. Assuming covid acts like other coronaviruses, which theres not much reason to believe it won't..

[GoldHeart]

No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health conditions.

:facepalm: That's what we thought at the beginning , but you can still easily pass it on.

And fit healthy people have still been really poorly with Covid .

[Daniel.]

No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health conditions.

You can still get severe effects any age.

[Alf]

Ive had this with so many people, recently.
I say, have you ever had a mystery meat kebab? Dropped an E? Vaped/ smoked?

There's not one person who hasn't at some point put a substance in their body that they weren't sure how they would react to.
None of those who have said they would refuse were the 'my body is a temple' types either, far far from itYou're right. All of Harold Shipman's victims trusted a doctor to inject things into their body.

[Alf]

Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?

[Smithy]

I’m due to have it soon, not sure on the date yet though

[Liam-]

Of course

[Jessica.]

Without a shadow of a doubt.

[Lee.]

Yes, I’ll definitely have it when offered.

[Lee.]

Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?

Yes, my cousin has had it, and one of my best pals.

[caprimint]

You can still get severe effects any age.
Why you not sure about having it then? :think:

[Kizzy]

You're right. All of Harold Shipman's victims trusted a doctor to inject things into their body.

It wasn't the substance that killed them...it was the psychopath injecting them.

How you have linked a vaccine to a mass murderer I don't know. Unless you're saying don't trust doctors because one killed some people once?

[Kizzy]

Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?

A colleague of mine had it with mild symptoms but his mum caught it and was on a ventilator. A neighbour had it and he was fine but his daughter was very poorly.

[Cherie]

Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?

Vaccine or covid?

4 people with the vaccine 3 over 80s and one support staff in a special school

Covid, no one in the first wave, loads of people this time round

[Niamh.]

Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?Not the vaccine but my brother, his wife and their 3 kids have had Covid

[AnnieK]

I know a couple of people who have had the vaccine.

Like Cherie, I didn't know anyone who had it in the first wave last year but lots who have had it this time. Mainly fairly mild but one if the Dads at my sons school (39 and no underlying conditions) ended up in intensive care and they gave him a 30% chance of survival. He did beat it but has been left with long covid. I also know of a couple of deaths of friends of friends.

[MTVN]

My Gran had her first jab a couple of weeks ago and my Auntie had hers yesterday because she's a care worker

Good to see a lot of the initial sceptism has faded away a bit and the uptake seems very good now

[Daniel.]

I have mine booked next week, ****ting it

[hijaxers]

I have mine booked next week, ****ting it


Why ??

[user104658]

Why ??

5G innit

[Daniel.]

Just because I'm a bit paranoid. I know it's all nonsensical but people referring to it as a death jab etc does get to me

[Smithy]

Had mine and it was fine :shrug:

[Captain.Remy]

I will get it. I don't know when because if we look at how it's going right now, I probably will be vaccinated in 2034 since Macron is taking his time as if we haven't lost a lot of it already. :shrug:

[hijaxers]

Just because I'm a bit paranoid. I know it's all nonsensical but people referring to it as a death jab etc does get to me

You'll be fine lovely ~ relax and its a tiny pin prick and you're done, i can't wait to get mine, soon i hope.

[hijaxers]

I will get it. I don't know when because if we look at how it's going right now, I probably will be vaccinated in 2034 since Macron is taking his time as if we haven't lost a lot of it already. :shrug:

I do feel for you , its bad how the EU have cocked right up and its the people that will suffer and i hope you get vaccinated way way way before 2034 ~ like later this year.

[hijaxers]

5G innit

:laugh:

[Daniel.]

Do we know if it is better to get Pfizer or Oxford?

[LaLaLand]

Both Great Aunts (80+) and my sister (front line worker) have had their first dose and my Dad got the appointment letter today to go for his next week.

Getting there slowly but surely...

[Glenn.]

My Nan is having hers on Saturday. My mum is having it in a few weeks too I think. My other half is having his in a few weeks too with his sister, and when the time comes I will definitely be having it. I can see people having genuine, unselfish issues with having it but I just want this **** over and done with now.

[Ammi]

Do we know if it is better to get Pfizer or Oxford?

...I understand you feeling uncertainty, Daniel...because this whole world that we’re living has obviously created our environments to create uncertain and scary etc so that’s the place we all live in...but try not to worry about which one you’ll get because they’ll all bring us closer..(..hopefully...)...to freedoms and contact returning and a more safe and healthy world...you’ll be fine, my love and it’s a step toward what we’ve all been hoping for..:hug:...

[Ammi]

My Nan is having hers on Saturday. My mum is having it in a few weeks too I think. My other half is having his in a few weeks too with his sister, and when the time comes I will definitely be having it. I can see people having genuine, unselfish issues with having it but I just want this **** over and done with now.

...:love:..great news to feel it getting closer, eh Glenn...

[Nicky91]

I do feel for you , its bad how the EU have cocked right up and its the people that will suffer and i hope you get vaccinated way way way before 2034 ~ like later this year.

we just have to be patient with our great EU :love:

[Oliver_W]

It depends; if it turns you into an "immune carrier" I probably wouldn't bother - I don't care that much if I get Covid, but I don't want to be protected while also possibly spreading it to my family.

[Cherie]

It depends; if it turns you into an "immune carrier" I probably wouldn't bother - I don't care that much if I get Covid, but I don't want to be protected while also possibly spreading it to my family.

You could be asymptomatic without the vaccine as well so surely better to take it as for AZ at least there is evidence it reduces transmission by 2/3s? I expect other vaccines will be found to cut transmission as well

[Nicky91]

You could be asymptomatic without the vaccine as well so surely better to take it as for AZ at least there is evidence it reduces transmission by 2/3s? I expect other vaccines will be found to cut transmission as well

AZ got recommended in Netherlands more for the 60-65 age group, not 65+

and we want to vaccinate 65+ group probably with Moderna since that one was more recommended for elderly

[Cherie]

AZ got recommended in Netherlands more for the 60-65 age group, not 65+

and we want to vaccinate 65+ group probably with Moderna since that one was more recommended for elderly

Nothing to do with the topic Nicky I doubt either Daniel or Oliver are 65 :laugh:

[Daniel.]

Thanks Ammi.

I still feel a bit uneasy, but I will get it done, my appointment is all sorted, and I'm 26, but I work in social work :laugh:

I'm more worried about the long term effects than short term

[Vicky.]

Yes. Though I highly doubt I will be offered it.

I was a bit on the fence when it seemed the point was to reduce symptoms if you catch it, and you could still spread it. Seemed very very pointless except for high risk people who have a sigificant chance of getting it badly. But given it seems to be helping to stop the spread, yeah. Balance has shifted somewhat to me.

[Vicky.]

Like Cherie, I didn't know anyone who had it in the first wave last year but lots who have had it this time. Mainly fairly mild but one if the Dads at my sons school (39 and no underlying conditions) ended up in intensive care and they gave him a 30% chance of survival. He did beat it but has been left with long covid. I also know of a couple of deaths of friends of friends.

Bloody hell. I assume it differs by area (though we are apparently a hotbed) but you and cherie appear to be the only ones I have seen yet who have this experience. Overwhemingly, those I know/speak to are a bit baffled, as they knew a few people hospitalised in March/April, yet don't know anyone this time around. It has seemed weird (though of course good..) that with death rates so high, it seems noone round here is having a difficult time of it this time. My dad theorised that the deaths/hospitalisations might be clusters, rather than spread out. I suspect he might be right in that. BUT if its that, a cluster could hit here anytime, which is a little unnerving.

I read some sciencey thing thing the other night out of pure curiousity, and it stated the main mistake near every country has made, is to assume covid behaves like the flu. So you would expect to see 2 people infected per infected person, and it would be 'guessable/trackable' a bit more. But, it seems that many people will not pass it on, but most 'outbreaks' are simply a superspreader event. That also would explain how some countries/areas seem to be ravaged while others have nothing (taking away the incompetant response of course..). Superspreader stuff really scares the crap out of me, especially how theres no way to tell if you are one.

If anyone is interested, I found it quite fascinating

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/



Seems a bit weird though, statistics wise, that when deaths and such were much lower, it seemed loads knew someone very ill (or who had died) and the numbers are bloody huge now, and..well nothing. For here. Though I feel I am sort of tempting fate in a way, even mentioning this. As we have seen how very quickly things can turn..

[Nicky91]

Nothing to do with the topic Nicky I doubt either Daniel or Oliver are 65 :laugh:

oh i'm aware, but just had to bring this up what i heard here yesterday evening on the news since it was a discussion about AZ vaccine

[Gstar]

No, I’m not over 70 or have underlying health conditions, but if people want to get it it’s their choice

[Cherie]

No, I’m not over 70 or have underlying health conditions, but if people want to get it it’s their choice

This is the type of attitude that has helped the virus to thrive :skull:

[Gstar]

Nah, I think it’s more Boris responsible for that

[Nicky91]

This is the type of attitude that has helped the virus to thrive :skull:

umm, no

also if you are young and you haven't got underlying health conditions you won't get the vaccine for a longer while with all honesty

[AnnieK]

No, I’m not over 70 or have underlying health conditions, but if people want to get it it’s their choice

So will you not get it once the older cohorts are done and they are vaccinating the rest of the population and its the turn of your age group?

[Vanessa]

Yes. Just got the letter today.

[Kate!]

I've decided I'm definitely going to have it. Even though I'm still somewhat apprehensive. X

[Vanessa]

I've decided I'm definitely going to have it. Even though I'm still somewhat apprehensive. X

I'm more scared of the needle :bawling:

[thesheriff443]

I'm more scared of the needle :bawling:

Not as much as those who are put into an induced coma not knowing if they will wake up again.

[Vanessa]

Not as much as those who are put into an induced coma not knowing if they will wake up again.

That has nothing to do with what I just said.

[Gstar]

So will you not get it once the older cohorts are done and they are vaccinating the rest of the population and its the turn of your age group?

No, that’s more reason not to get it as the people most at risk would of been vaccinated.

[AnnieK]

No, that’s more reason not to get it as the people most at risk would of been vaccinated.

It wasn't an accusation, just a question.

It's not a mandatory vaccine so totally up to each individual.

I know people who feel the same as you.....although a few have changed their minds due to possible "vaccination passports" but as that is only supposition at this time its silly to decide whether to have the jab because it could, maybe stop you doing things.

I have flip flopped, although have now decided to get the jab when I get offered, mainly in case I could still transmit it to more vulnerable people who may not have been able to have the jab, not because I'm scared of getting the virus.

[Vanessa]

It wasn't an accusation, just a question.

It's not a mandatory vaccine so totally up to each individual.

I know people who feel the same as you.....although a few have changed their minds due to possible "vaccination passports" but as that is only supposition at this time its silly to decide whether to have the jab because it could, maybe stop you doing things.

I have flip flopped, although have now decided to get the jab when I get offered, mainly in case I could still transmit it to more vulnerable people who may not have been able to have the jab, not because I'm scared of getting the virus.
Same. I don't want to pass it on to others

[Kizzy]

No, that’s more reason not to get it as the people most at risk would of been vaccinated.

What about those who are immune suppressed and can't have the vaccine. Does it worry you that you may put them at risk?

[Vicky.]

What about those who are immune suppressed and can't have the vaccine. Does it worry you that you may put them at risk?

I thought it was only live vaccines that immunosuppressed people couldn't get?

Mind, I only 'know' this through my dad having no spleen. Hes been on about the vaccine, and I always thought it would be dangerous for him, but his doctor said this^

The passing it onto others bit is the only reasn I will get it mind. Hence, being quite unsure when it seemed it was all about lesser infection, rather than stopping spread.

[Gstar]

It wasn't an accusation, just a question.

It's not a mandatory vaccine so totally up to each individual.

I know people who feel the same as you.....although a few have changed their minds due to possible "vaccination passports" but as that is only supposition at this time its silly to decide whether to have the jab because it could, maybe stop you doing things.

I have flip flopped, although have now decided to get the jab when I get offered, mainly in case I could still transmit it to more vulnerable people who may not have been able to have the jab, not because I'm scared of getting the virus.

I was just answering your question and yeah my only fear is things being restricted or “not allowed” for people who haven’t taken it but I’m sure it wouldn’t come to that

What about those who are immune suppressed and can't have the vaccine. Does it worry you that you may put them at risk?

It would be pretty much the same for the flu as well, obviously I don’t want to endanger anyone’s life but I’m not going to take a vaccine purely to protect someone else with no benefit to me. I’ve had hep B and HPV vaccines because it’s to protect me and my body and both I feel are far more important than the covid one

[Kizzy]

That's a no then? OK.

With any luck what Vicky said about specific vaccines still bring available for those who can't have a certain one. That way nobody will be put at risk however unintentionally.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sunday morning 8.30am for me jag

[Cherie]

Sunday morning 8.30am for me jag

you are getting a Jag, that business must be going great :love:

[Ammi]

Sunday morning 8.30am for me jag

...:lovedup:...they knew you have busy days and couldn’t be doing with having it when half the day had already gone...GET IT DONE...

[Cherie]

two of the unsures have had their jab, we just need to convert Nicholas now

[Ammi]

...I didn’t realise which thread this was and that there was a poll...so I went to look at what you were saying, Cherie and somehow I’d clicked unsure...just ignore me, I don’t need any conversion that just somehow happened on its own...

[Cherie]

...I didn’t realise which thread this was and that there was a poll...so I went to look at what you were saying, Cherie and somehow I’d clicked unsure...just ignore me, I don’t need any conversion that just somehow happened on its own...

Not us having to pin Ammi down now as well as Nicky to have the jab :oh:

[bots]

i wouldn't have put Ammi down as one of those anti-vax activists ... they are hiding everywhere :laugh:

[Vanessa]

I decided to have the vaccine to protect myself.
Because I have an underlying health condition.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Im getting it as past of my social responsibility

i dont bother with flu jags, maybe i will this winter as Flu could be an issue

[bots]

with all the social distancing, we have lost immunity on mass to all the usual bugs that circulate. I predict a bad winter for things that were previously trivial

[rusticgal]

Im getting it as past of my social responsibility

i dont bother with flu jags, maybe i will this winter as Flu could be an issue


Yes I am the same....think I will get the flu jab this year too.

[Vicky.]

It would be a great idea for as many as possible to get the flu jab this year tbh, I am bloody terrified about a very bad flu season, after we had 2 mild ones, then covid wiped the last one out totally...

[Tom4784]

I imagine i'll get the call for my vaccine in May or so and I'll book it as soon as I can.

[user104658]

Mine is tomorrow :umm2: if you don't see me again it's because of my brain clot.

Though I don't actually know what "brand" I'm getting :think:

[rusticgal]

Mine is tomorrow :umm2: if you don't see me again it's because of my brain clot.

Though I don't actually know what "brand" I'm getting :think:


You will be fine...the EU have just announced they do not see any indication it causes blood clots'
Its the same as anything...if you read the leaflet that comes with any medication...you would be worried about taking it.

[Vanessa]

Mine is tomorrow :umm2: if you don't see me again it's because of my brain clot.

Though I don't actually know what "brand" I'm getting :think:

You'll be ok.
Just make sure you rest afterwards

[bots]

Mine is tomorrow :umm2: if you don't see me again it's because of my brain clot.

Though I don't actually know what "brand" I'm getting :think:

make sure you plaster salt all over your food today, that is sure to help :fan:

[user104658]

make sure you plaster salt all over your food today, that is sure to help :fan::oh: I'm taking baby aspirin!

[LaLaLand]

Counting down the days.

My Mum (55+) just had the call to go for her first Thursday and my sister (frontline) is having her second this weekend. My Dad is waiting on the call for his second anytime now.

Won’t be long now until they make their way to my age group (30).

[Crimson Dynamo]

shall i wear a t-shirt

is that what you do?

coz I would normally have a country shirt and a jumper

the last jag i got was into my testicles

[bots]

shall i wear a t-shirt

is that what you do?

coz I would normally have a country shirt and a jumper

the last jag i got was into my testicles

i wore a tee shirt so i didn't dazzle everyone with the sight of my voluptuous belly. However, even with that, the nurse kept telling me to pull up the sleeve ... higher ....HIGHER ..... HIIIIIGHER :laugh:

[Cherie]

A cold shoulder top