Will Trump Free the Tiger King?

[Niamh.]

Joe Exotic’s lawyers so confident of Donald Trump pardon they’ve ‘booked a limo’ to pick him up from prison

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Joe Exotic’s lawyers are so confident he will be pardoned by Donald Trump they have booked a limo to pick him up from prison, it is reported.

The Tiger King star, who is currently serving a 22-year sentence for plotting to kill his rival Carol Baskin and for animal cruelty, is hoping to be released by the incumbent US president on Tuesday.

Private investigator Eric Love, who is leading Exotic’s case, said his legal team is planning on whisking the Netflix documentary protagonist away from FMC Prison in Texas.

He told The Sun that “Team Tiger” had already booked a stretch-truck limousine, to take Exotic – real name Joseph Maldonado-Passage – to a secret location to recuperate from his time behind bars.


"We have the limousine fueled up and driver standing by,” Mr Love told the paper. “We are ready for the party.”


Mr Trump is expected to issue more than 100 pardons and commutations on his last full day in office before Joe Biden takes control of the White House.

These are set to include rapper Lil Wayne who faces 10 years in jail after being found with a loaded, gold-plated handgun when his private jet landed in Miami in December 2019.


Trump says he'll look into 'Tiger King' Joe Exotic's case
Speaking about why he believes Exotic will be among the select group, Mr Love told the Metro: “I think the president has sided with us and I believe it will take most of the limelight away from president-elect Joe Biden.”

The lawyer said he had prepared a preemptive video message thanking the outgoing president for his generosity to Exotic.

“Last night, I shot a congratulatory video thanking Donald Trump so we have it queued up and ready to go,” he told the Metro.


Asked what Exotic’s plans include if he is released from the Federal Medical Center in Fort Worth, Mr Love said: “The first thing Joe wants to do? He wants his hair done.

“He hasn’t had his hair done in two-and-a-half years. That’s the first order of business. Then we’ll probably go and get some pizzas, steak, maybe a McRib.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/joe-exotic-trump-pardon-limo-prison-b900267.html

[user104658]

I hope so, how else will we get a season 2 :worry:.

[Ammi]

...I think he might do, Donald Jnr wants that as well, doesn’t he...?...and I’m not lion...

[Niamh.]

I hope so, how else will we get a season 2 :worry:.

:laugh:

Well he's got no Zoo now :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:fc:

[user104658]

:laugh:

Well he's got no Zoo now :nono:

As part of his pardon he gets his zoo back. However, in a twist, he is no longer allowed to keep tigers and the zoo is populated ENTIRELY with toothless meth addicted gigolos.

[Niamh.]

As part of his pardon he gets his zoo back. However, in a twist, he is no longer allowed to keep tigers and the zoo is populated ENTIRELY with toothless meth addicted gigolos.

:laugh2:

[Niamh.]

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[bots]

that lady in the opposing zoo will make sure justice is done :smug:

[UserSince2005]

Tiger King for VP in the 2024 Trump Administration please.

[Niamh.]

that lady in the opposing zoo will make sure justice is done :smug:

https://i.imgur.com/1l9LJlo.jpg

[Vicky.]

Surely there is way to just..stop him doing **** like this? Hes obviously just trying to set the country on fire to watch it burn when his power goes..sems daft to let him behave like an overgrown toddler in this way, especially when it includes some very dangerous people from the sounds of it :umm2:

[Niamh.]

Surely there is way to just..stop him doing **** like this? Hes obviously just trying to set the country on fire to watch it burn when his power goes..sems daft to let him behave like an overgrown toddler in this way, especially when it includes some very dangerous people from the sounds of it :umm2:

It's ridiculous that they would give one person the power to do something like that, at the very least people guilty of serious or violent crimes should be off the table. What if he decided he wanted to free a serial killer or something, would that be allowed?

[rusticgal]

I would like to see him pardoned....:laugh:

[Niamh.]

I would like to see him pardoned....:laugh:

Would you though? I know it's kind of a jokey thread and we all loved the show but he was found guilty of animal cruelty towards those gorgeous animals and trying to pay someone to kill another person (I know there's a debate on as to whether Carole Baskin is a murderer herself but that's neither here nor there) He's still capable of hiring a hitman

[bots]

It's ridiculous that they would give one person the power to do something like that, at the very least people guilty of serious or violent crimes should be off the table. What if he decided he wanted to free a serial killer or something, would that be allowed?

It's a fundamental problem with democracy. At some point it relies on "good faith" and Trump is one who most certainly doesn't abide by anything good faith and never has.

Just to complete the picture a bit, both Clinton and Bush pardoned people serving their own interests rather than those of the country. Nothing like the nonsense pardons from Trump, but they set the precedent. In a similar way, at Trumps certification, several Dems objected to the vote of states at that time, with no basis for doing so. So while Trump has taken things to a new level of absurdity, the dems actually did these things first :laugh:

[Niamh.]

It's a fundamental problem with democracy. At some point it relies on "good faith" and Trump is one who most certainly doesn't abide by anything good faith and never has.

Just to complete the picture a bit, both Clinton and Bush pardoned people serving their own interests rather than those of the country. Nothing like the nonsense pardons from Trump, but they set the precedent. In a similar way, at Trumps certification, several Dems objected to the vote of states at that time, with no basis for doing so. So while Trump has taken things to a new level of absurdity, the dems actually did these things first :laugh:

My comment wasn't specific to Trump though, I don't believe any President should be allowed pardon any criminal. That's what the justice system is there for, allowing 1 person (who most likely has vested interests) the power to over rule that system is a joke and actually a massive **** you to any victims of whichever person is freed

[Ammi]

...if someone was in any way deserving or entitled to a pardon then it would have been or be done through the justice system so that it’s not open to abuse...

[bots]

My comment wasn't specific to Trump though, I don't believe any President should be allowed pardon any criminal. That's what the justice system is there for, allowing 1 person (who most likely has vested interests) the power to over rule that system is a joke and actually a massive **** you to any victims of whichever person is freed

the reason for giving the president pardon capabilities was to allow the rectification of a serious miscarriage of justice, which could apply to a criminal. For example, some black people found in position of a tiny amount of cannabis have been sentenced to life imprisonment with no parole. Previous presidents have exercised pardons in those circumstances. The reality of course is that the justice system should be able to right that wrong, but typically in America, if its a federal crime you are ****ed

[Ammi]

...and the irony/mockery of Trump specifically having that power...is that even though the Central Park 5 were freed for their innocence, not because of a pardon situation....he still didn’t and hasn’t acknowledged their innocence or that he asked for the death penalty for innocent men...

[Niamh.]

the reason for giving the president pardon capabilities was to allow the rectification of a serious miscarriage of justice, which could apply to a criminal. For example, some black people found in position of a tiny amount of cannabis have been sentenced to life imprisonment with no parole. Previous presidents have exercised pardons in those circumstances. The reality of course is that the justice system should be able to right that wrong, but typically in America, if its a federal crime you are ****ed

Obviously this is the way wrongs in the justice system should be righted

[Nicky91]

yes


and probably going to pardon Lil Wayne, just to please his best friend Kanye :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Free the After 8!

[Vicky.]

My comment wasn't specific to Trump though, I don't believe any President should be allowed pardon any criminal. That's what the justice system is there for, allowing 1 person (who most likely has vested interests) the power to over rule that system is a joke and actually a massive **** you to any victims of whichever person is freed

Indeed. Seems a weird 'law' or whatever. In theory, they seemingly could release like..terrorists or serial killers on a whim. Seems wrong. There really should be some form of safeguard in place there, rather than 'oh the president has woken up and decided that the boston bomber should be let out tday, there you go' and such :umm2:

Is the theory that the president could (not likely though but interesting) pardon each and every criminal and empty out the prisons completely correct?! Thats the first thing stepson said when he heard of this.

[Niamh.]

Indeed. Seems a weird 'law' or whatever. In theory, they seemingly could release like..terrorists or serial killers on a whim. Seems wrong. There really should be some form of safeguard in place there, rather than 'oh the president has woken up and decided that the boston bomber should be let out tday, there you go' and such :umm2:

Is the theory that the president could (not likely though but interesting) pardon each and every criminal and empty out the prisons completely correct?! Thats the first thing stepson said when he heard of this.

Well yeah exactly. Could a president have decided to free Ted Bundy?

[bots]

Trump already pardoned people who were in jail or facing jail who didn't spill the beans on him. They knew they would be pardoned if they kept quiet. As abuse of power goes, it's right up there with the best of them

[Mystic Mock]

...I think he might do, Donald Jnr wants that as well, doesn’t he...?...and I’m not lion...

:joker:

If the guy commits animal cruelty then I'd personally keep him locked up for life.

What Trump will do is more than likely the total opposite.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

**** I accidentally voted for the bottom option when I meant to vote for the second option.:laugh:

[Vicky.]

Is it correct that being pardoned also means they cannot be put back in jail for the crime too? Like, this would not be something easily reversible like the cancellations of various laws..

[bots]

Is it correct that being pardoned also means they cannot be put back in jail for the crime too? Like, this would not be something easily reversible like the cancellations of various laws..

i think once, the incoming president negated the pardons of the previous president, but the only reason he was able to do that was because all the relevant paperwork hadn't finished being submitted. So, that's why Trump is doing it the day before he leaves, as that gives time for the paperwork to be finalised :laugh:

[Tom4784]

He shouldn't, but I wouldn't count it out. Joe Exotic attempted to murder someone and his abuses against animals are numerous, nevermind the fact that he is a ****ty human being that groomed two men into marrying him, getting them addicted to drugs, and driving one of them to suicide.

Joe Exotic is exactly where he belongs.

[Niamh.]

He shouldn't, but I wouldn't count it out. Joe Exotic attempted to murder someone and his abuses against animals are numerous, nevermind the fact that he is a ****ty human being that abused two men into marrying him, getting them addicted to drugs, and driving one of them to suicide.

Joe Exotic is exactly where he belongs.

I definitely agree he groomed those guys and was a ****ty person but I don't think Travis committed suicide? Not on purpose anyway, looked like that was accidental

[The Slim Reaper]

It's a fundamental problem with democracy. At some point it relies on "good faith" and Trump is one who most certainly doesn't abide by anything good faith and never has.

Just to complete the picture a bit, both Clinton and Bush pardoned people serving their own interests rather than those of the country. Nothing like the nonsense pardons from Trump, but they set the precedent. In a similar way, at Trumps certification, several Dems objected to the vote of states at that time, with no basis for doing so. So while Trump has taken things to a new level of absurdity, the dems actually did these things first :laugh:

The levels involved here are completely different, and I'm not defending Clinton. For starters, just dangling pardons so folks wouldn't work with/give testimony to Mueller, versus Clinton appearing at his own impeachment. There is no precedent for how Trump has used pardons, taking either bush or Clinton into consideration.

[Tom4784]

I definitely agree he groomed those guys and was a ****ty person but I don't think Travis committed suicide? Not on purpose anyway, looked like that was accidental

Oh, I thought it was suicide, he shot himself in the head, no? It's been a while since I watched it so I might be forgetting the details.

[user104658]

Joe Exotic attempted to murder someone and his abuses against animals are numerous, nevermind the fact that he is a ****ty human being that abused two men into marrying him, getting them addicted to drugs, and driving one of them to suicide.

It made great telly though :flutter:

[user104658]

Oh, I thought it was suicide, he shot himself in the head, no? It's been a while since I watched it so I might be forgetting the details.

He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:

[thesheriff443]

Couldn’t care less

[Niamh.]

He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:

Yeah, he did have it pointed at the other guy first but he told him not to point it him and Travis said - look it's not loaded (or something similar) pointed it at himself and pulled the trigger

[bots]

He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:

i will never forget the look on the other guys face and his reactions to it happening

[Tom4784]

He did shoot himself in the head, by accident... he had taken the clip out of the gun and thought that the type of gun he was waving about didn't hold a round in the chambre... but it does... and to demonstrate that it was not loaded... he shot himself in the face with it :facepalm:. I swear it was only sheer luck of the draw for the other guy that he didn't point it at him and click the trigger instead :umm2:

Oh, I remember the awful clip they showed of it, but can't remember the details. Even so, I'd still blame Joe Exotic for drugging him up to the point that he'd do something like that.

[Tom4784]

i will never forget the look on the other guys face and his reactions to it happening

Yeah, it's what I remember clearly, probably why I thought it was suicide, couldn't remember what led up to it.

[Niamh.]

Oh, I remember the awful clip they showed of it, but can't remember the details. Even so, I'd still blame Joe Exotic for drugging him up to the point that he'd do something like that.

Oh yeah, you could definitely say that. Do you remember his funeral as well, he was so disrespectful the way he spoke about him, with his mother sitting there as well.

[user104658]

Oh, I remember the awful clip they showed of it, but can't remember the details. Even so, I'd still blame Joe Exotic for drugging him up to the point that he'd do something like that.

Yeah, he definitely did groom young guys with drugs & money... the other husband had one of the most compelling tales in the show I think. I think he's living a pretty normal life now, off drugs, remarried and teeth fixed. Unrecognizable from the poor soul in the documentary tbh. I think he appeared on the "Zoom Update" thing at the end of the show :think:

https://i.imgur.com/GdFK8YY.jpg

[Tom4784]

Oh yeah, you could definitely say that. Do you remember his funeral as well, he was so disrespectful the way he spoke about him, with his mother sitting there as well.

I recall, he's such an odious human being, I don't know how people championed him so much when the series was huge. He was evil.

Yeah, he definitely did groom young guys with drugs & money... the other husband had one of the most compelling tales in the show I think. I think he's living a pretty normal life now, off drugs, remarried and teeth fixed. Unrecognizable from the poor soul in the documentary tbh. I think he appeared on the "Zoom Update" thing at the end of the show :think:

https://i.imgur.com/GdFK8YY.jpg

Yeah, I remember being happy that he bounced back from it all, I'm glad he was able to recover from Exotic's abuse.

[arista]

[Tiger King star Joe Exotic's camp has celebration planned
amid hopes President Donald Trump will pardon him
from 22-year sentence in murder-for-hire conviction]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9161325/Tiger-King-star-Joe-Exotics-camp-plans-party-amid-hopes-President-Donald-Trump-pardon-him.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/18/23/38173096-9161325-image-a-15_1611011832590.jpg

[hijaxers]

I would like to see him pardoned....:laugh:


Really cos i heard he shot 5 perfectly healthy tigers . I'd shoot the bastard myself nevermind a pardon. I hope he rots in jail

[Niamh.]

Really cos i heard he shot 5 perfectly healthy tigers . I'd shoot the bastard myself nevermind a pardon. I hope he rots in jailYep, to make way for cubs, that's where the money is letting people pet them, you can't let people pet adult tigers and they cost a lot to feed, scumbag

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Tiger King star Joe Exotic's camp has celebration planned
amid hopes President Donald Trump will pardon him
from 22-year sentence in murder-for-hire conviction]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9161325/Tiger-King-star-Joe-Exotics-camp-plans-party-amid-hopes-President-Donald-Trump-pardon-him.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/18/23/38173096-9161325-image-a-15_1611011832590.jpg

https://i2.wp.com/newzandar.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/carole-baskin-breaks-down-on-dwts-over-tiger-king-portrayal.jpg?resize=678%2C381&ssl=1

[Amy Jade]

I hope not. Besides the fact he tried to have Carole killed and clearly preyed upon young men his treatment of animals was absolutely disgraceful if you look into his reputation.

I don't understand anyone who celebrates him actually.

[rusticgal]

Really cos i heard he shot 5 perfectly healthy tigers . I'd shoot the bastard myself nevermind a pardon. I hope he rots in jail



He did...and you are right. Imagine the outrage though...

[Jake.]

He did...and you are right. Imagine the outrage though...

What do you mean by ‘imagine the outrage’? People would be outraged, and rightly so? There’s a reason why he’s in prison and that’s where he should be kept. Or do we just start releasing all manner of criminals for ‘the outrage’?

[Beso]

Trump will pardon 100 people, one of the lowest in presidential history.

Clinton was low as well, but he pardoned his own brother for drug offences.. a first in political history


FDR pardoned over 2500 people.

[rusticgal]

What do you mean by ‘imagine the outrage’? People would be outraged, and rightly so?

Well that was my point....:shrug:

[rusticgal]

Trump will pardon 100 people, one of the lowest in presidential history.

Clinton was low as well, but he pardoned his own brother for drug offences.. a first in political history


FDR pardoned over 2500 people.


It’s all a bit bizarre...their surely must be a limitation on the severity of the crime.

[Mitchell]

Well someone is looking rather stupid now with their empty limo!

[bots]

Better luck next time :laugh:

[Ammi]

Well someone is looking rather stupid now with their empty limo!

...as the tiger community cheers...

[Jake.]

Well that was my point....:shrug:

Came across like ‘it would be quite funny though, wouldn’t it?’

[Niamh.]

Well someone is looking rather stupid now with their empty limo!

:fan:

[AnnieK]

Well someone is looking rather stupid now with their empty limo!

:laugh:
And the pre-recorded thank you video

[Niamh.]

But you know who's fault it is that he didn't get that Pardon?

[Ammi]

...can we even bear to say her name...

[Ammi]

...she was reported to be off for a day out ...in a limousine...

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.redd.it/wr1fycjlf9p41.jpg

[Niamh.]

...she was reported to be off for a day out ...in a limousine...

:laugh:

[Tom4784]

Trump will pardon 100 people, one of the lowest in presidential history.

Clinton was low as well, but he pardoned his own brother for drug offences.. a first in political history


FDR pardoned over 2500 people.

It doesn't really matter that he's pardoned so few people when some of the people he has pardoned were the Blackwater mass murderers, found guilty of committing the Nisour Square Massacre, killing innocent men, women and children.

It doesn't really matter if someone pardons 2500 minor offences if another president basically approves of a massacre by letting the killers go free. Trump's pardons are the worst of any president's for that reason alone. It doesn't matter that he pardoned so 'few' people when the people he pardoned are not people on drug use charges or other minor charges, but actual murderers.

That's not even touching on the fact he's used pardons as rewards to people who refused to speak on his blatant corruption.

I don't think anyone of a reasonable mindset could make out that Trump's pardons are anything less than a complete outrage.

[rusticgal]

Came across like ‘it would be quite funny though, wouldn’t it?’


Well that was your interpretation obviously....but I would have put a laughing face had I meant it that way.

[UserSince2005]

Trump hitting back at Netflix for some of the nasty programming they have commissioned against him?