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AnnieK
22-01-2021, 08:26 AM
..Shaun started the first Coronavirus thread...
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364573
Reading the first few pages is so weird. Its crazy to think all that has happened to the UK and the world in that time. So much of our normal lives have changed.
Scarlett.
22-01-2021, 08:31 AM
I remember thinking that it would be similar to bird flu/swine flu and would ultimately lead to nothing, then the reports from how bad it was in Wuhan came, then the reports from Italy, when it hit Spain and France, the reality of what was coming towered over us all.
arista
22-01-2021, 11:27 AM
Yes I posted that link
on my first page.
As well as my last one.
Its a Great Thread
as its like a race to Hell.
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 12:01 PM
God..all the 'is the killer virus here' headlines, when it was even at that stage I think acknowledged that it had been in China for months. Of course it was bloody here. Fantasy to think it stayed in a massively populated..travel hub really...fr a few months, just incubaing among the general population instead of travellig at all!
Smithy
22-01-2021, 12:02 PM
This is all Shauns fault :fist:
Smithy
22-01-2021, 12:14 PM
Omg Annie your post
It's worrying how much fear mongering is happening. Yes, its highly infectious and people have died but WHO figures show that between 200,000 -695,000 people die from the flu every year. The worry is it spreading to 3rd world countries where medical services are either unavailable or unable to cope.
It's frightening but I am sure in this country the impact will not be too severe.
The worry is if this is anything to do with possible chemical warfare testing.
:worry:
AnnieK
22-01-2021, 12:26 PM
Omg Annie your post
:worry:
How bloody wrong I was. God, I wish I was right. I was thinking, as Scarlett mentioned earlier, how it would be like Swine flu, where people got it but it was sorted quickly with minimal impact for most people
Just another example of me not having a clue about anything :laugh:
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 12:27 PM
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10794131&postcount=1157
Weird seeing this. It turned out it WAS covid I had too. Fairly sure at that time, they were still claiming the first case in the UK was in mid March or something. I had an antibody test once people were able to (though had to pay 80 quid for it :fist: ) and I had antibodies at that time. Had not been ill inbetween either. The possibility is there that I 'got it' between my 'covid' and the test I guess but showed no symptoms..but it seems unlikely realy.
The 'covid' that hit our house, me and gav were literally bed bound, for 2 days. Was like flu, but..much more intense, but also shorter. 2 days, the proper bad symptoms were there, then they just kind of disappeared, leaving no smell/taste for a couple of weeks and a feling of tiredness but not enough to describe as 'really ill' at that stage. And leaving a long term cough in me, which I still have now.
We didn't antibody test the kids, as it was a blood test. However, I doubt it got us and didn't get them too, just its almost certain most kids get it but don't get ill..so that would add into it all too. Oddly, I did another antibody test a few months later out of curiousity more than anything, when the news started saying antibodies are really short term (a month, I think I read) and that, and 3/4 months on, I still had them apparently.
Niamh.
22-01-2021, 12:53 PM
I bet none of us thought we'd be where we are now a year later
Scarlett.
22-01-2021, 12:55 PM
It's hard to believe how I went from feeling confident and happy, and secure for the first time in my life to... where I am now, literally feels like everything just fell through in this past year. No one could have predicted this.
Shaun
22-01-2021, 12:56 PM
whew, my impact
Niamh.
22-01-2021, 12:59 PM
whew, my impactIt's all your fault :oh:
Shaun
22-01-2021, 01:02 PM
i just wanted more people to wash their hands!
AnnieK
22-01-2021, 01:05 PM
i just wanted more people to wash their hands!
I'm sure they are now. Can you stop the pandemic now please? :laugh:
user104658
22-01-2021, 01:40 PM
My first COvid post :flutter:
Dirty marketplaces my arse, Wuhan is home to the only level 4 biohazard facility in China. China is MASSIVE, and this virus happened to originate in Wuhan? What a weird coincidence.
Current reports are that there's "no indication" that this new SARS-like virus, originating in the only city in the country with a facility containing and studying SARS, which had warnings as far back as 2017 about the potential for viruses escaping the facility, has anything to do with the facility.
...still true let's face it :whistle:
...I recall having a conversation with a member about it and saying ...oh it won’t really come to anything, nothing to worry about etc...just media hype...
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 01:47 PM
My first COvid post :flutter:
...still true let's face it :whistle:
Its a bit..suspicious for sure. Even now with the many many people telling us it was definitely a bat! Infact, the amount of people who were so desperate to get people t believe it was a random bat thing, makes me more suspicious :laugh:
Niamh.
22-01-2021, 01:55 PM
I never bought that bat story
Mystic Mock
22-01-2021, 02:39 PM
Yes I posted that link
on my first page.
As well as my last one.
Its a Great Thread
as its like a race to Hell.
Are we on a Highway To Hell?
Mystic Mock
22-01-2021, 02:43 PM
My first COvid post :flutter:
...still true let's face it :whistle:
A conspiracy theory that I definitely think is true.
Covid is way too intelligent for it to be a natural disease imo.
Captain.Remy
22-01-2021, 02:47 PM
It started getting worrying when in France, people were put in quarantine in hotels for 2 weeks when they were flown back from Wuhan. I also work with a Chinese coworker who was in quarantine in one of those hotels and when I saw her on TV I realized it was serious.
Nicky91
22-01-2021, 02:50 PM
all my corona jokes i made begin last year :worry:
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:06 PM
A conspiracy theory that I definitely think is true.
Covid is way too intelligent for it to be a natural disease imo.
Theres a few bits of the 'conspiracies' that I think potentially have some truth to them. Issue is, saying you find any aspect of it all...questionable...gets you written off as a 'covid denier'. Like, its obviously quite insane those who think its not a real thing at all and is all just governments (like, every country randomly decided to work together...for the first time ever and for..what reason?!) making it up BUT..I find that watching friends question aspects of lockdown for example, they get rounded on by people calling them deniers. Its..even more divisive than Brexit, I have found. and never thought any other topic would ever reach those levels of...split. But here we are.
A friend of mine who is a virologist said at the start that it was too..weird for a naturally occurring disease to be so..advanced. Like, with the spike proteins or something like that, I couldnt being to follow how she explained it at the time as not sciency myself, but she seemed adamant that something was up with it all. Was shouted down eventually, but she still thinks some parts of it are off somewhere like. Many scientists disagree with her mind, but she seemed to know what she was on about. Of course, she could have been talking utter ****e. Some qualified people say that the earth is flat I guess.
Tom4784
22-01-2021, 04:06 PM
It's strange looking back, in the early days I thought it would be something we'd handle just fine, that it likely wouldn't spread too badly like all the other viral threats and outbreaks I've seen in my lifetime.
Then again, we knew very little at the time. Some sources were making it out to be apocalyptic, others were saying it wasn't much worse than the flu.
Tom4784
22-01-2021, 04:08 PM
I don't really pay heed to any of the conspiracies tbh, they all lack a solid motive as to why a government, or a corporation or whomever would tank the world's economy and disrupt everything for over a year and counting.
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:10 PM
Some sources were making it out to be apocalyptic, others were saying it wasn't much worse than the flu.
Not much has changed, in that regard really!
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:12 PM
I don't really pay heed to any of the conspiracies tbh, they all lack a solid motive as to why a government, or a corporation or whomever would tank the world's economy and disrupt everything for over a year and counting.
Well yes, the outright denials.
But, the 'bat theory' interests me. As does, the behavior of various governments. Saying ours took advantage of the situation to shovel off money to mates, and ****ed the country even more by doing so, then went OTT with restrictions to try and cover up this fact..is not the same as saying its all a scam. But that, is put in the same bracket..
user104658
22-01-2021, 04:12 PM
Its a bit..suspicious for sure. Even now with the many many people telling us it was definitely a bat! Infact, the amount of people who were so desperate to get people t believe it was a random bat thing, makes me more suspicious [emoji23]Well, it probably did come from a bat because they're a big ol' hive of coronaviruses, I'm just like 99% sure it was a bat they were studying in their biotech facility specifically in relation to viruses rather than some random bat burger.
user104658
22-01-2021, 04:13 PM
I don't really pay heed to any of the conspiracies tbh, they all lack a solid motive as to why a government, or a corporation or whomever would tank the world's economy and disrupt everything for over a year and counting.I also don't think it was deliberate/a bioweapon, I think they had lax containment standards, were studying viruses, and someone ****ed up.
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:15 PM
Well, it probably did come from a bat because they're a big ol' hive of coronaviruses, I'm just like 99% sure it was a bat they were studying in their biotech facility specifically in relation to viruses rather than some random bat burger.
Pretty much my thoughts really. Its too..convenient. BUT, its possible it was a random wet market cross contamination colossal **** up. That seems less likely to me than a mistake made in the lab though really.
Of course, a mistake could never be publicly admitted. Tbh those facilities scare the crap out of me speaking generally to start with! And I don't think they should exist at all..as its a nightmare waiting to happen in my mind. So I might be a bit more...hysterical in thinking towards them!
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:17 PM
I also don't think it was deliberate/a bioweapon, I think they had lax containment standards, were studying viruses, and someone ****ed up.
Looking into previous 'mistakes' made with such places, its not too much of a stretch either. Seems there is not too much thought for safety, or actual following the procedures they are meant to..especially given the stuff they work with sometimes!
Mind, a degree of human error will always be expected in any system that involves..humans.
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:19 PM
I believe this article was the first of my rabbit hole trip that lasted for weeks.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/20/18260669/deadly-pathogens-escape-lab-smallpox-bird-flu?__c=1
And scared the absolute crap out of me. 200 tabs open, no sleep for days, reading in absolute horror that such places existed outside a zombie apocalypse game..
I think this should be a giant sized wake up call for what could happen in the future. It's unlikely that governments will have learnt any lessons, but they should have
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:27 PM
I think this should be a giant sized wake up call for what could happen in the future. It's unlikely that governments will have learnt any lessons, but they should have
Well yeah,. the next pandemic was never an..if scenario, but a when. This was acknowledged widely, yet still we were seemingly caught unprepared?!
Niamh.
22-01-2021, 04:37 PM
Well, it probably did come from a bat because they're a big ol' hive of coronaviruses, I'm just like 99% sure it was a bat they were studying in their biotech facility specifically in relation to viruses rather than some random bat burger.Bat burger :laugh2:
Tom4784
22-01-2021, 04:40 PM
Well yeah,. the next pandemic was never an..if scenario, but a when. This was acknowledged widely, yet still we were seemingly caught unprepared?!
Our government got the report back in January 2020 I believe, detailing how bad it would get, yet they didn't act until March when things were getting out of control. No preparation, no pre-emptive action, nothing. Most other countries would have wanted their leader's head on a spike for such incompetence but we just accept it, cus it's Boris. It makes me sick.
arista
22-01-2021, 04:41 PM
God..all the 'is the killer virus here' headlines, when it was even at that stage I think acknowledged that it had been in China for months. Of course, it was bloody here. Fantasy to think it stayed in a massively populated..travel hub really...fr a few months, just incubating among the general population instead of travellig at all!
That's why Front Page Jpg's
serve a purpose.
23 Jan 2020
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/16C7/production/_110613850_thei.jpg
Nicky91
22-01-2021, 04:43 PM
and corona will last for next 10 yrs at least, said dutch virologist Marion Koopmans
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:55 PM
and corona will last for next 10 yrs at least, said dutch virologist Marion Koopmans
I suspect it will last 'forever' really. Though will become less of 'an issue' the more vaccinations and such are done and the more its understood and studied. Its never going anywhere though, realistically.
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 04:59 PM
Our government got the report back in January 2020 I believe, detailing how bad it would get, yet they didn't act until March when things were getting out of control. No preparation, no pre-emptive action, nothing. Most other countries would have wanted their leader's head on a spike for such incompetence but we just accept it, cus it's Boris. It makes me sick.
Yeah, the lack of holding to account is just..weird.
Meanwhile, I saw many many posts about 'it would be worse with corbyn!!!'...while..absolving boris of any blame at the same time. I mean, its ridiculous to blame him FOR the pandemic, I agree on that, but the bungled response to it? 100% him (and his party)
Someone else might have done just as badly. And if they did, they would also be held to account.
It not even really a 'with the benefit of hindsight thing' either...given the same mistakes have been repeated OVER AND OVER. One **** up, yeah fine..unprecedented situation, etc.. Every decision (seemingly) being a **** up? Not so much.
AnnieK
22-01-2021, 05:09 PM
"Unprecedented times" is one phrase I would gladly never hear again. Literally everyone has used that excuse for everything since March....wages late? Unprecedented times. Parcel not arrived? Unprecedented times. Appointment cancelled? Unprecedented times etc etc.
Other other phrases I hate are "new normal" and "stay safe"' I've been guilty of using both and they both make me cringe :laugh:
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 05:12 PM
"Unprecedented times" is one phrase I would gladly never hear again. Literally everyone has used that excuse for everything since March....wages late? Unprecedented times. Parcel not arrived? Unprecedented times. Appointment cancelled? Unprecedented times etc etc.
Other other phrases I hate are "new normal" and "stay safe"' I've been guilty of using both and they both make me cringe :laugh:
Haha sorry. I actually agree. But it WAS a decent excuse at one stage. Now though? Like hell is it!
Our government got the report back in January 2020 I believe, detailing how bad it would get, yet they didn't act until March when things were getting out of control. No preparation, no pre-emptive action, nothing. Most other countries would have wanted their leader's head on a spike for such incompetence but we just accept it, cus it's Boris. It makes me sick.
One year on and in the midst of the 2nd spike, the nhs still runs, and has as yet not been overwhelmed, I believe that was the governments plan from the start after knowing how bad it was going to get...they are still achieving that.
Its workforce, however, well one can only imagine how overwhelmed they are personally.
Unpresidented times..?
That's not what I say to my customers..
I say..."all this covid ****e"
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 05:22 PM
Unpresidented times..?
That's not what I say to my customers..
I say..."all this covid ****e"
Yes, in actual life, thats the usual I hear :D
Taxi drivers I have found to be the best covid ranters. Closely followed by amazon delivery people, who seem to have basically moved into my house..
Yes, in actual life, thats the usual I hear :D
Taxi drivers I have found to be the best covid ranters. Closely followed by amazon delivery people, who seem to have basically moved into my house..
:joker:
That's the gambler in you..or the ****ed up gene as my old mum calls it.
Happy birthday miss addictive personality.:hehe:
"Unprecedented times" is one phrase I would gladly never hear again. Literally everyone has used that excuse for everything since March....wages late? Unprecedented times. Parcel not arrived? Unprecedented times. Appointment cancelled? Unprecedented times etc etc.
Other other phrases I hate are "new normal" and "stay safe"' I've been guilty of using both and they both make me cringe :laugh:
the one that makes me cringe the most is "Out of an abundance of caution ..." :fist:
Niamh.
22-01-2021, 06:12 PM
the one that makes me cringe the most is "Out of an abundance of caution ..." :fist:I've never heard that one [emoji1787]
Vicky.
22-01-2021, 06:14 PM
:joker:
That's the gambler in you..or the ****ed up gene as my old mum calls it.
Happy birthday miss addictive personality.:hehe:
I definitely have an abundance of 'the ****ed up gene' :D Makes life more..unpredictable!
the one that makes me cringe the most is "Out of an abundance of caution ..." :fist:
Not heard that one yet :suspect:
arista
22-01-2021, 06:22 PM
I suspect it will last 'forever' really. Though will become less of 'an issue' the more vaccinations and such are done and the more its understood and studied. Its never going anywhere though, realistically.
Yes some
Mums not wanting babies now
GoldHeart
22-01-2021, 06:24 PM
..Shaun started the first Coronavirus thread...
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364573
Reading the first few pages is so weird. Its crazy to think all that has happened to the UK and the world in that time. So much of our normal lives have changed.
Back then I never thought it would escalate into a huge crazy pandemic, I remember being at work and someone casually mentioning it like it was a little bit of flu :facepalm: .
I've never heard that one [emoji1787]
Not heard that one yet :suspect:
it's been so over used. When boris went to hospital it was out of an abundance of caution, when he moved to icu, it was the same. When something is closed, its for an abundance of caution. When people started wearing face msks etc
To consider this morass of developments is to appreciate what the phrase “abundance of caution” accomplishes. It has an air of rhetorical largesse; it implies politeness and restraint instead of flailing panic. It’s a verbal lasso around galloping unpredictability. Though the scale of its terms are oxymoronic — abundance signaling plenty, caution calling for restraint — that only serves to make it sound more poetic. Imagine a kind neighbor coming over to your house and sharing their caution with you, because they had an abundance this year. An unlimited buffet with a caution fountain, caution towers, baskets of caution. As though we’re all positively relishing in our carefulness rather than preparing for the worst.
Captain.Remy
22-01-2021, 06:33 PM
Unpresidented times..?
That's not what I say to my customers..
I say..."all this covid ****e"
Yeah me too :joker: Though working in logistics, we were pretty much very reactive to that but still facing issues on the global chain from end to end.
I think it's becoming the norm isn't it, or as they like to say "the new normal". Some people don't want to hear about it or expect things to work like "before" (which is totally understandable because we all deal with it in our own way and there's not one better than the other) but some fields are still in trouble and face many challenges daily. I always say patience is key.
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