View Full Version : The SNP leader is wrong - Our Prime Minster has every right to go to Scotland
arista
28-01-2021, 11:02 AM
Even The Labour Leader
has said its important the Prime Minister
visit's Vaccine Centre's in Scotland.
Why did the SNP Leader
not tell Johnson off last week as he visited Wales?????????
The SNP Leader
is looking Stupid Now
Johnson is in Scotland Today.
Niamh.
28-01-2021, 11:07 AM
"Why did the SNP Leader
not tell Johnson off last week as he visited Wales?????????"
Because she the leader of the SNP not the WNP? :laugh:
arista
28-01-2021, 11:14 AM
"Why did the SNP Leader
not tell Johnson off last week as he visited Wales?????????"
Because she the leader of the SNP not the WNP? :laugh:
Yes but she is telling the UK Leader
he can not travel to Scotland?
She is an Utter Fool - on this,
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 11:28 AM
She's right.
Normally it would be right to travel to visit regions and countries for whatever.
However he could make video addresses to any groups or individuals he feels a sudden need to.
While he's telling everyone else not to travel to other regions, it's a bit rich for him to choose to do so.
As for Nicola Sturgeon, how on earth could she tell him not to visit Wales, how ridiculous.
She is the First Minister of Scotland and has her own duty of protecting her citizens.
We've got Starmer isolating, had Hancock just back from it .
It's ridiculous for him to be charging off now to Scotland during a near full UK lockdown period.
She shouldn't worry though, his presence in Scotland outside of his own cult like supporters, will only likely increase her support and causes further.
It's a waste of time and money, surely in this time of crisis, his time would be better used keeping his hand on the pulse of all arising from this pandemic.
Instead of flying off to present an unnecessary sideshow.
Travel for work is allowed so I see no problem, he'd probably be criticised for ignoring other regions if he didn't visit Scotland and just stayed in London for months on end
The likes of Ally McCoist travel from Glasgow to London to commentate on football, think the PMs work is more important
arista
28-01-2021, 11:34 AM
Travel for work is allowed so I see no problem, he'd probably be criticised for ignoring other regions if he didn't visit Scotland and just stayed in London for months on end
The likes of Ally McCoist travel from Glasgow to London to commentate on football, think the PMs work is more important
Yes Very True Words
MTVN
Cherie
28-01-2021, 11:35 AM
Travel for work is allowed so I see no problem, he'd probably be criticised for ignoring other regions if he didn't visit Scotland and just stayed in London for months on end
The likes of Ally McCoist travel from Glasgow to London to commentate on football, think the PMs work is more important
Yep
arista
28-01-2021, 11:37 AM
"She's right."
No Joey
The Labour Leader backs him going there.
Cherie
28-01-2021, 11:38 AM
These devolved leaders seem to get all the glory but none of the flak?
When will Nicola, Arlene and Mark apologise for the deaths under their watch?
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 11:53 AM
"She's right."
No Joey
The Labour Leader backs him going there.
That carries no weight with me arista.
I don't agree with all Labour does or what it's leader says.
Unlike those who'll only see right, no matter what the Con leader does immaterial of the message it sends.
No one should be travelling anywhere during lockdown, not the PM not anyone.
I don't support anyone doing it.
You can't be telling people to stay at home.
This isn't necessary work he's doing.
He could have waited until infection rates and death rates different.
Not set off at the height of them.
No he's wrong, in my view as he or anyone else would be wrong at this moment in time.
As for the Labour leader, well I guess this dangerous self styled buffoon going to Scotland may help Labour regain a possible 2nd place again in the Holyrood elections
So that may be why Starmer says he's right to go.
As when he does, he only seems to increase opposition to himself anyway.
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 11:58 AM
These devolved leaders seem to get all the glory but none of the flak?
When will Nicola, Arlene and Mark apologise for the deaths under their watch?
Nicola Sturgeon has apologised and with genuine compassion too offering genuine condolences to the bereaved all through this pandemic.
Unlike Johnson.
Mark and that awful Foster woman in N Ireland, have been pathetic in my view.
So I'll agree with you there
Michelle O' Neill however in N Ireland of Sinn Fein has expressed more genuine regret than Foster ever likely will.
Labour in Wales has in my view been really poor in their overall handling of the virus too.
Their leader there, near sends me to sleep anyway.
arista
28-01-2021, 12:03 PM
Joey the Scottish Visit is Legit.
As the Prime Minister
he must visit all UK Vaccine locations.
Vicky.
28-01-2021, 12:06 PM
"Why did the SNP Leader
not tell Johnson off last week as he visited Wales?????????"
Because she the leader of the SNP not the WNP? :laugh:
:laugh2:
Travel for work is allowed so I see no problem, he'd probably be criticised for ignoring other regions if he didn't visit Scotland and just stayed in London for months on end
The likes of Ally McCoist travel from Glasgow to London to commentate on football, think the PMs work is more important
Well yeah. Can imagine the fuss if he visited everywhere else and ignored scotland. I feel quite bad for him sometimes, as he really cannot win.
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 12:06 PM
Joey the Scottish Visit is Legit.
As the Prime Minister
he must visit all UK Vaccine locations.
Not at this time.
Sorry I'll never agree.
You can't tell others NOT to make unnecessary travel then do so yourself.
He could have video linked to them rather than physically travel there, in this day and age.
Tom4784
28-01-2021, 12:10 PM
He should lead by example, if it's not essential, he shouldn't travel.
I'm so ****ing tired of people being all softly softly on this prick, he is incompetent.
Cherie
28-01-2021, 12:15 PM
Nicola Sturgeon has apologised and with genuine compassion too offering genuine condolences to the bereaved all through this pandemic.
Unlike Johnson.
Mark and that awful Foster woman in N Ireland, have been pathetic in my view.
So I'll agree with you there
Michelle O' Neill however in N Ireland of Sinn Fein has expressed more genuine regret than Foster ever likely will.
Labour in Wales has in my view been really poor in their overall handling of the virus too.
Their leader there, near sends me to sleep anyway.
She has in the past apologised, I think all 4 should have been present via video link on the 100,000 milestone, Bojo is far too soft on these leaders
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 12:36 PM
She has in the past apologised, I think all 4 should have been present via video link on the 100,000 milestone, Bojo is far too soft on these leaders
She apologises every day.
He never has, he's done press conferences where he doesn't even mention deaths only the experts he has beside them.
Sorry I'll never share your blinkered admiration of Johnson
He can't tell other leaders what to do .
He's only Prime Minister.
Too soft on them.
Lord above help us anyone even thinks that.
I seem to recall only last week joe biden being praised for visiting a food parcel place during the american pandemic.
Yet a man checking up on the standards of vaccination centres under his control is vilified for it.
Tom4784
28-01-2021, 12:44 PM
I seem to recall only last week joe biden being praised for visiting a food parcel place during the american pandemic.
Yet a man checking up on the standards of vaccination centres under his control is vilified for it.
As always, you forget that context matters which is why your every attempt at a gotcha always fails.
America isn't in a national lockdown, we are. The UK leaders should not be crossing the country for visits that are not essential.
Cherie
28-01-2021, 02:17 PM
She apologises every day.
He never has, he's done press conferences where he doesn't even mention deaths only the experts he has beside them.
Sorry I'll never share your blinkered admiration of Johnson
He can't tell other leaders what to do .
He's only Prime Minister.
Too soft on them.
Lord above help us anyone even thinks that.
i'm not blinkered at all thanks, and I don't admire Johnson so no idea where you got that idea from :laugh:
As always, you forget that context matters which is why your every attempt at a gotcha always fails.
America isn't in a national lockdown, we are. The UK leaders should not be crossing the country for visits that are not essential.
It is essential though, you and nicola just dont think it is.
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 03:27 PM
As always, you forget that context matters which is why your every attempt at a gotcha always fails.
America isn't in a national lockdown, we are. The UK leaders should not be crossing the country for visits that are not essential.
That's the whole point exactly.
Of course it's not essential.
arista
28-01-2021, 03:45 PM
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joeysteele
28-01-2021, 04:09 PM
When he's done nothing but push more division across the UK.
Crumbs, he's even managed to upset the DUP in N Ireland who were keeping Theresa May as PM in government.
To come together you have to be someone who shows integrity in wanting to.
Something he lacks considerably.
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 04:09 PM
I also think just out of courtesy he should have arranged any visit with the elected First Minister of Scotland.
Yes he's the UK PM, HOWEVER dismissing her rules set out on people coming in and going out as to her responsibility as First Minister of Scotland, is a little at least disrespectful.
The Slim Reaper
28-01-2021, 06:18 PM
I also think just out of courtesy he should have arranged any visit with the elected First Minister of Scotland.
Yes he's the UK PM, HOWEVER dismissing her rules set out on people coming in and going out as to her responsibility as First Minister of Scotland, is a little at least disrespectful.
If we're talking about courtesy, then maybe he should start with talking to the family of just one of those 100k people dead on his watch.
Kate!
28-01-2021, 06:21 PM
Boris knows nothing about courtesy. He strikes me as arrogant more and more by the day.
Johnson accused of causing division across the uk, whilst sturgeon remains unmarked by criticism for demanding the division of the UK.
arista
28-01-2021, 06:40 PM
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Kate!
28-01-2021, 06:45 PM
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No Kier
The man is an idiot
Feel the force
arista
28-01-2021, 07:08 PM
No Kier
The man is an idiot
Feel the force
Look he was Elected as the Leader
could even become PM in 4 years.
Kate!
28-01-2021, 07:10 PM
Look he was Elected as the Leader
could even become PM in 4 years.
I meant Boris is an idiot.
arista
28-01-2021, 07:11 PM
I meant Boris is an idiot.
Bad text you did.
Kate!
28-01-2021, 07:13 PM
Bad text you did.
I'll amend my post......
No Kier
Boris is an idiot
Do not support idiots
arista
28-01-2021, 07:14 PM
I'll amend my post......
No Kier
Boris is an idiot
Do not support idiots
Thats better
Cherie
28-01-2021, 07:32 PM
Johnson accused of causing division across the uk, whilst sturgeon remains unmarked by criticism for demanding the division of the UK.
Right!
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 07:34 PM
If we're talking about courtesy, then maybe he should start with talking to the family of just one of those 100k people dead on his watch.
Slim, you are 100% right.
He has repeatedly refused to meet with those left bereaved.
He will have selectively on safe grounds with those he knows are more pro himself or anyone he knows personally.
There are groups of people left devastated although I better shut up as I'll be jumped on by his admirers for harping on again on personal issues.
What however is deaths of loved ones if not personal.
Not wanting it happening to others is important too.
Don't worry, I have along with other legal friends now, a growing list of bereaved families, with grievances of lost loved ones lives where they were endangered by inaction or incompetent action re this virus.
A certain morning presenter has too and is longing for a public inquiry.
That's why a public inquiry is needed, fully open too, HOWEVER that's why Johnson wants to delay that further just as not agreeing to meet with bereaved families.
Which Con supporters support him in not doing too.
So I agree with you of course, that would be courtesy from him.
Then again, as I said, the responsibility of dealing with the virus in Scotland lies with Nicola Sturgeon, she has said no unnecessary travel between cities, no unnecessary travel in and out of Scotland.
So for him to be so disrespectful to her rulings in place for her citizens, and to not have the courtesy of arranging his visit via her first out of respect for her task of dealing with the virus there.
Just shows the arrogant, ignorant, deceitful creep he really is
Tom4784
28-01-2021, 07:41 PM
It is essential though, you and nicola just dont think it is.
A photo op is not essential. There is nothing he needs to do in Scotland that cannot be done remotely. As someone who is based in London, he should keep travel to a bare minimum.
Tom4784
28-01-2021, 07:45 PM
Johnson accused of causing division across the uk, whilst sturgeon remains unmarked by criticism for demanding the division of the UK.
Because that's what the tories do, but tory supporters can't see that since they're too busy licking Boris' arse clean.
Calling for a vote for people to chose whether they want to be in a union or not was fine and dandy when it came to the EU, but you'll paint someone wanting to give the people of Scotland a choice if they want to remain in the British union as wanting to divide the country... Hypocrisy much.
It's not dividing anything, a vote for independence is every bit as democratic as your beloved brexit.
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 07:48 PM
Boris knows nothing about courtesy. He strikes me as arrogant more and more by the day.
Very true.
As is your idiot term to him too.
The problem is he's a power mad dangerous ( self styled ), arrogant idiot.
On this though he is totally wrong, despite those diving in to defend his arrogance.
The UK government devolved POWERS to Scotland.
Sturgeon is the First Minister and holder of those powers.
The virus regulations are her responsibility in Scotland.
He has no right, to disrespect, disregard and charge through her restrictions at all.
It just shows, he won't even respect and stand by the devolved powers already in place for Scotland and whoever gets elected and is trusted to run Scotland from the said elected Scottish parliament.
By the Scottish voters themselves.
rusticgal
28-01-2021, 11:51 PM
Johnson accused of causing division across the uk, whilst sturgeon remains unmarked by criticism for demanding the division of the UK.
I agree...
joeysteele
28-01-2021, 11:57 PM
Because that's what the tories do, but tory supporters can't see that since they're too busy licking Boris' arse clean.
Calling for a vote for people to chose whether they want to be in a union or not was fine and dandy when it came to the EU, but you'll paint someone wanting to give the people of Scotland a choice if they want to remain in the British union as wanting to divide the country... Hypocrisy much.
It's not dividing anything, a vote for independence is every bit as democratic as your beloved brexit.
This too again for me.
It's desperately sad to witness.
You've used the only right word there is for it Dezzy.
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