SNP faces fresh claims high-ranking party figures conspired against Alex Salmond

[arista]

[The SNP is facing fresh claims that senior
party figures conspired against its former
leader Alex Salmond.
One of its own MPs has told Sky News
that high-ranking members
of the party shared dozens
of messages about the former
first minister in a social media group chat,
calling themselves the "Vietnam" group.


In text exchanges before last year's
criminal trial of Mr Salmond,
which resulted in his acquittal,
it's claimed they discussed the reluctance
of an alleged victim to give evidence
and efforts they could take to give her encouragement.

The new claims are made by Kenny MacAskill,
the SNP MP for East Lothian and Scotland's
former justice secretary.

He has told Sky News that content
of the digital communications has long
been a subject of open discussion within
SNP circles, and he has backed calls for
Scotland's Crown Office to release
the text messages as written proof.
Of the unpublished messages,
Mr MacAskill told Sky News:
"There has been long-standing talk in SNP circles
about WhatsApp and text messages
and I've been in correspondence
with the Crown (office) about it.
There's a WhatsApp group that
was called the 'Vietnam' group that i
ncluded SNP staffers and even members of government."]

https://news.sky.com/story/snp-faces-fresh-claims-that-high-ranking-party-figures-conspired-against-former-leader-alex-salmond-12201748



Stinking Corruption in the SNP.
TS.

[Oliver_W]

What? A bunch of disorganised nationalists also have back-stabby tendencies? Who could predict such a thing!

[Cherie]

Nicola will surely be keen to release the messages :joker:

[arista]

What? A bunch of disorganised nationalists also have back-stabby tendencies? Who could predict such a thing!



Yes and we have a Very Clever
Former Manager
tibb member TS
backing the SNP.

[arista]

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[arista]

[Alex Salmond may pull out of Holyrood committee
hearing after evidence removed from
Scottish parliament website
The former first minister's lawyer says the removal
of evidence could have a "material bearing" on his
committee appearance.]

https://news.sky.com/story/alex-salmond-may-pull-out-of-holyrood-committee-hearing-after-evidence-removed-from-scottish-parliament-website-12226699





[Some 474 words appear to have been removed
from the former first minister's evidence,
which was published on Monday evening.
Mr McKie said he needed clarification in order
to "properly advise our client and make
further representations".
He added: "These could have a material bearing
on whether he is able to attend tomorrow."]

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Back in the Days when they were mates

[arista]

NewsnightHD bbc2
began with this Fight

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[arista]

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[Cherie]

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Huge story that is getting little or no traction and is actually being supressed and because they are going to such lengths to suppress it you have to surmise Salmonds evidence would finish Wee Nicola

[arista]

Huge story that is getting little or no traction and is actually being supressed and because they are going to such lengths to suppress it you have to surmise Salmonds evidence would finish Wee Nicola



Yes Alex needs to go Live
Spill the beans

[hijaxers]

Yes Alex needs to go Live
Spill the beans

She asked him to produce evidence and then stops him from presenting it , she must be wetting her pants at whats to come. Can't wait :laugh:

[Cherie]

She asked him to produce evidence and then stops him from presenting it , she must be wetting her pants at whats to come. Can't wait :laugh:

Her husbands evidence contradicted hers in the original trial, it would be nice to get to the truth, if she did conspire to have an innocent man imprisoned that would attract a jail sentence for her in itself I would have thought? :shrug: and if she didn't let the evidence be heard so it can be put to bed

[bots]

i think whichever way you look at it its really bad, Wee Nic's husband is chief exec and he was happy to stick Salmond in jail. If they fabricated stuff to try and put him away, they are the ones who should go to prison

[Cherie]

i think whichever way you look at it its really bad, Wee Nic's husband is chief exec and he was happy to stick Salmond in jail. If they fabricated stuff to try and put him away, they are the ones who should go to prison

just shows how powerful they are that this story is not headline news everywhere!

[user104658]

The narrative that "poor Alex is innocent" is straight from the same mouths and mindsets as anti-masking, Trump-supporting and Q conspiracies to be honest.

[Cherie]

The narrative that "poor Alex is innocent" is straight from the same mouths and mindsets as anti-masking, Trump-supporting and Q conspiracies to be honest.

What is the reason for the suppression of evidence do you know?

I am not saying he is innocent or not innocent but I don't understand the conflicting accounts given by Nic and her hubby or why this is not being allowed to go foward?

[user104658]

What is the reason for the suppression of evidence do you know?

I am not saying he is innocent or not innocent but I don't understand the conflicting accounts given by Nic and her hubby or why this is not being allowed to go foward?

I'm not saying there isn't also political-shenanigans... isn't there always... but it's been used by certain groups to paint this narrative of pawsy-Salmond as the victim (or even some sort of hero), his accusers as liars, etc. and it's pretty disgusting.

[Alf]

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[Alf]

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[user104658]

The whole thing is muddied with Unionist agenda, which makes the media reporting difficult to wade through, and Social Media ramblings pretty much worthless. In short, this is internal politics and has absolutely nothing to do with Scottish Independence - however it is being deliberately used as an anti-Independence vehicle by Unionists on both sides of the border, which makes it at this point a complete cluster**** of misinformation. I personally have no real idea what's gone on. What I've mentioned in this thread is all that I'm relatively sure of.

1) Salmond's poor-me-I'm-persecuted act is absolute nonsense, I very much believe the claims that he is a misogynist **** with wandering hands.

2) The reporting is more about unrelated political agendas than the facts on either side.

[arista]

The whole thing is muddied with Unionist agenda, which makes the media reporting difficult to wade through, and Social Media ramblings pretty much worthless. In short, this is internal politics and has absolutely nothing to do with Scottish Independence - however it is being deliberately used as an anti-Independence vehicle by Unionists on both sides of the border, which makes it at this point a complete cluster**** of misinformation. I personally have no real idea what's gone on. What I've mentioned in this thread is all that I'm relatively sure of.

1) Salmond's poor-me-I'm-persecuted act is absolute nonsense, I very much believe the claims that he is a misogynist **** with wandering hands.

2) The reporting is more about unrelated political agendas than the facts on either side.


Stinking Corruption of your SNP gang

[user104658]

Stinking Corruption of your SNP gang

:shrug: Probably. They all are. I'd still rather be under a corrupt SNP in Edinburgh making Scotland-centric decisions than a corrupt Tory government in Westminster ****ing over everywhere other than London & The South.

Of course ideally, none of them would be corrupt, but that's dreaming the impossible dream I sadly suspect.

[arista]

:shrug: Probably. They all are. I'd still rather be under a corrupt SNP in Edinburgh making Scotland-centric decisions than a corrupt Tory government in Westminster ****ing over everywhere other than London & The South.

Of course ideally, none of them would be corrupt, but that's dreaming the impossible dream I sadly suspect.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/02/24/11/article-9294039-39709224-837_964x543.jpg


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9294039/The-proof-Sturgeon-lied-Scottish-prosecutors-dont-want-see.html

[bots]

To clear up what's gone on there needs to be transparency and Nicola has done everything she can to subvert that. I've never liked Salmond, i've never liked Nicola and each is playing games right now and it's not a good look for either of them. If unionists take advantage of their mess, why shouldn't they. The SNP have been quick as lighting to stick the boot in when they saw the slightest opportunity

[UserSince2005]

Mrs Krankie has been a very naughty girl.

[Alf]

Janette Tough

[user104658]

To clear up what's gone on there needs to be transparency and Nicola has done everything she can to subvert that. I've never liked Salmond, i've never liked Nicola and each is playing games right now and it's not a good look for either of them. If unionists take advantage of their mess, why shouldn't they. The SNP have been quick as lighting to stick the boot in when they saw the slightest opportunity


Because it’s banal tit-for-tat politics... it has literally nothing to do with the independence debate. As I’ve said multiple times recently, I’m against the rush for independence currently as I think the Brexit situation is already too volatile. I’m pro-devomax which isn’t even an SNP stance. But it being used to get London-centric Tory unionists a foothold would be a disaster for Scotland.


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[arista]

Alex is now to give Evidence
in the Scottish Parliament on Friday.


SkyNewsHD Scottish reporter tells us.

[rusticgal]

Never trust anyone with a small mouth...:hee:

[hijaxers]

Scottish crown office has been ordered to release evidence of Salmond conspiracy !

[arista]

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[user104658]

More QSalmond from the Daily Mail. I had once hoped that 2021 would shake off the Trump-era media and politics... apparently, not yet. That article refers to Scotland as a "banana republic" and "one-party state" :joker:... I can't decide if it's genuine stupidity or just being disingenuous? Do they know what a one-party state is? Hint: It's not a state where the other parties just legitimately fail miserably to secure votes because no one wants to vote for them :facepalm:.

The idea that there's some sort of elaborate cover-up to frame a 100% innocent Salmond for political gain is just more conspiracy theory junk, straight out of the same playbook as the US "ELeCtiOn FrAuD". I find it somewhat amusing that English politics/press is now all aboard the "poor Salmond" train... it's not long since they were asking if Salmond was "a de-facto Russian agent" :laugh:. And that at least had legs as a theory, given that it's only a few years since he was fannying around on Kremlin-sponsored television.

[Cherie]

I don't this its that the press are pro Salmond, I think its the quashing of some of his statement that is of concern

Anyhoo wee Nic has been floating along in a bubble, able to take credit when things go right and blaming Westminster when things go wrong, so its funny to see her squirming under the spotlight for a change

Ironic two given how tight these two used to be

[joeysteele]

More QSalmond from the Daily Mail. I had once hoped that 2021 would shake off the Trump-era media and politics... apparently, not yet. That article refers to Scotland as a "banana republic" and "one-party state" :joker:... I can't decide if it's genuine stupidity or just being disingenuous? Do they know what a one-party state is? Hint: It's not a state where the other parties just legitimately fail miserably to secure votes because no one wants to vote for them :facepalm:.

The idea that there's some sort of elaborate cover-up to frame a 100% innocent Salmond for political gain is just more conspiracy theory junk, straight out of the same playbook as the US "ELeCtiOn FrAuD". I find it somewhat amusing that English politics/press is now all aboard the "poor Salmond" train... it's not long since they were asking if Salmond was "a de-facto Russian agent" :laugh:. And that at least had legs as a theory, given that it's only a few years since he was fannying around on Kremlin-sponsored television.

I agree.

Plus I'd forgot about the issue you mention in your last paragraph.

Strong points there.

[arista]

Parliament Scotland
today Conservative and LibDems
leaders accused Sturgeon of a Cover Up.


Roll on Tomorrow
Alex Speaks

[arista]

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[Beso]

Post sturgeons rebuttal to those questions underneath that video arista please.

[arista]

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[arista]

SkyNewsHD
All Out Politics

reports Alex should arrive after 12 midday
to go live around 12:30PM

[arista]

Alex is Live

https://news.sky.com/story/alex-salmond-latest-updates-as-former-first-minister-gives-evidence-on-claims-nicola-sturgeon-misled-scottish-parliament-12229544


both news channels


Also, Parliament Ch.

[user104658]

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I hold no candle for the
@theSNP
and the Salmond-Sturgeon story is clearly important and newsworthy. But my God compare and contrast the right wing media and
@BBCNews
coverage with the comparative lack thereof of
@SuellaBraverman
re Cummings,
@pritipatel breach min code ...
.. the entire govt prepared to break law Re N Ireland/Brexit and
@MattHancock
found to have broken law but said it was ok cos he was in a hurry. I know
@afneil
has a dog in this fight but if there is a ‘Banana Republic’ right now it stems from London

Pretty much


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[arista]

New Labour Ex Spin doctor
can bogg off

[user104658]

New Labour Ex Spin doctor
can bogg offWhat he's saying is true though; Daily Mail et al are all over the discrepancies as though they're anything more than we see on a monthly basis from Westminster Tories... But no one gives a **** when it's Boris & Pals. They're pretending to care now because they have another agenda; unionism.

Unless you believe all of the "Salmond is totally innocent and was framed" QAnon-style conspiracy crap.

[hijaxers]

I don't this its that the press are pro Salmond, I think its the quashing of some of his statement that is of concern

Anyhoo wee Nic has been floating along in a bubble, able to take credit when things go right and blaming Westminster when things go wrong, so its funny to see her squirming under the spotlight for a change

Ironic two given how tight these two used to be

Squirming ! too right ~ wee nasty cow is what she is !!!! Bout time she faced what she and her husband have done. Slugs :cheer2:

[user104658]

Squirming ! too right ~ wee nasty cow is what she is !!!!

#EverydaySexism

[arista]

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[arista]

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[hijaxers]

#EverydaySexism

Oh ok Yes i'm an everyday sexist ! if you say so big boy:laugh:

[arista]

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Large Scotland on Sunday

[arista]

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[arista]

Tomorrow
Sturgeon goes in front of Enquiry
in Parliament.

Some want her to Resign.


Report on Ch4HDnews.

[arista]

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[hijaxers]

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I would say after what she and her husband have done that resignation should be her only option.
Bye Bye Nichola.

[arista]

I would say after what she and her husband have done that resignation should be her only option.
Bye Bye Nichola.


She is Live now on both News Channels.

[Cherie]

I think the husband will fall on his sword and Nicola will be saved

[arista]

I think the husband will fall on his sword and Nicola will be saved

Yes could be.

[user104658]

I would say after what she and her husband have done that resignation should be her only option.

Bye Bye Nichola.Nothing worse than literally dozens of Westminster politicians do with barely a mention, swept under the rug. Of course it's all wrapped up in other politics - SNP infighting, Unionist groups, bloody MRA arseholes...

Unless of course you believe the utter nonsense that Salmond is genuinely innocent of sexual misconduct, rather than there just not being enough evidence to convict, in which case I would like to show you my finest selection of chocolate tea pots.

[arista]

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[user104658]

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And yet it looks like the grubby pawing ****er is going to get the last laugh anyway. It's genuinely depressing.

[user104658]

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Don't see Scottish stories like this one getting much press attention :think:. I wonder why :think:. It's a mystery :think:.

[bots]

i dont think voters give a toss these days what politicians have been up to. It's the media and those with a vested, conflicting interest that shout disgrace and call for resignation

Salmond is clearly a sleeze that is as corrupt as they come. If a talk show on Russian state tv and support from the russian sponsored Leave.eu that Arista always promotes, don't give people a clue, i don't know what will

[user104658]

i dont think voters give a toss these days what politicians have been up to. It's the media and those with a vested, conflicting interest that shout disgrace and call for resignation

Salmond is clearly a sleeze that is as corrupt as they come. If a talk show on Russian state tv and support from the russian sponsored Leave.eu that Arista always promotes, don't give people a clue, i don't know what will

I have some major suspicions... his entire life was about independence back when there were no whispers of Brexit etc... then when he was out there were those bizarre ties with Russia... and now post-Brexit he's resurfaced in a "political scandal" that will, at the very least, risk completely derailing any talks of indy-refs? His "life's work"? I find it highly suspicious especially with the timing... one might almost suspect that Scottish Indy was useful to certain parties as a destabilizing effect when the UK was an EU member, but those parties would prefer the union to remain in place now that the UK and EU have separated. That's veering into Q territory though :joker: :whistle:

[arista]

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[user104658]

1367204075520086027Yuck. Nasty little larval tory desperately fapping off bitter old gammon tory. He if you scroll down a bit there's a photo of Grimes in a MAGA hat. Says it all really.

[arista]

Yuck. Nasty little larval tory desperately fapping off bitter old gammon tory. He if you scroll down a bit there's a photo of Grimes in a MAGA hat. Says it all really.

Never mind about that Young Reporter


Look at the Mess your SNP leader
was in.

[joeysteele]

She came across, strong, determined and in my view convincing too, in the exchanges yesterday at this inquiry.

I had to cringe at the questioning from Labours Jackie Baillie.
Unbelievable.
Of course Nicola Sturgeon had wiped the floor with her while she was acting leader of Labour.
When she was pressing in a supportive way, the Salmond side of events on this in a Holyrood session.

When Nicola Sturgeon fired back with, something like, 'she doesn't know when Jackie Baillie had become the spokesperson for Alex Salmond considering when HE was First Minister, Jackie Baillie never believed a word he said in Holyrood'.

I like that Nicola Sturgeon will admit she could have made mistakes and freely without any pressure apologises if she has.

They're the kind of politicians needed.
So I hope this inquiry ends this Salmond attempt to, what I feel, ( just my view), scupper the success of someone who is likely going to be far more successful than he ever was.
Re the Party and Country.

He was found not guilty of the charges brought to him.
Any false allegations proven so in court is a good thing.
So in that, I was pleased for him.

HOWEVER, he doesn't appear to have gone about things before his trial in the best of ways.
Nor has he since it, again just my view.

[user104658]

Never mind about that Young Reporter





Look at the Mess your SNP leader

was in.It's Alex Salmond's mess :shrug: