View Full Version : Meghan Markle wins privacy claim against Daily Mail
Glenn.
11-02-2021, 04:51 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/meghan-markle-wins-high-court-privacy-claim-against-mail-on-sunday-over-thomas-markle-letter-12215319
Justice :clap1:
Smithy
11-02-2021, 04:52 PM
:clap1:
Well done queen Meghan
Niamh.
11-02-2021, 04:52 PM
Great news
GoldHeart
11-02-2021, 04:55 PM
Good for her
trolls and the media are nasty for the sake of it
joeysteele
11-02-2021, 04:57 PM
Good news indeed.
i thought she was going to lose, shows how much I know :laugh:
Kate!
11-02-2021, 04:58 PM
Great news xx
Jordan.
11-02-2021, 05:00 PM
She just keeps winning
The Slim Reaper
11-02-2021, 05:00 PM
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arista
11-02-2021, 05:03 PM
Yes a Win in Court.
But many still Hate her.
The Slim Reaper
11-02-2021, 05:03 PM
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Niamh.
11-02-2021, 05:03 PM
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:laugh:
Marsh.
11-02-2021, 05:14 PM
:clap1:
The Slim Reaper
11-02-2021, 05:19 PM
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Marsh.
11-02-2021, 05:22 PM
A strong lady.
Warby (the Judge) goes on to say
125. I would accept that, in principle, it was legitimate for Mr Markle to seek to rebut the inaccurate suggestion that the Letter represented some form of “olive branch”....
But the Mail published more than was strictly necessary to show this....
The copyright trial will still go ahead, Warby rules, as she was allegedly aided in writing it by the Palace communications secretary, Jason Knauf. (The Express).
Cherie
11-02-2021, 05:28 PM
Warby (the Judge) goes on to say
125. I would accept that, in principle, it was legitimate for Mr Markle to seek to rebut the inaccurate suggestion that the Letter represented some form of “olive branch”....
But the Mail published more than was strictly necessary to show this....
The copyright trial will still go ahead, Warby rules, as she was allegedly aided in writing it by the Palace communications secretary, Jason Knauf. (The Express).
:dance:
...:lovedup:...it really is a win against the awful tabloids as much as a personal one...thank you Meghan for that ..:love:..
Glenn.
11-02-2021, 05:33 PM
Warby (the Judge) goes on to say
125. I would accept that, in principle, it was legitimate for Mr Markle to seek to rebut the inaccurate suggestion that the Letter represented some form of “olive branch”....
But the Mail published more than was strictly necessary to show this....
The copyright trial will still go ahead, Warby rules, as she was allegedly aided in writing it by the Palace communications secretary, Jason Knauf. (The Express).
And yet she stays winning
joeysteele
11-02-2021, 05:33 PM
...:lovedup:...it really is a win against the awful tabloids as much as a personal one...thank you Meghan for that ..:love:..
It is indeed.
A well warranted one too.
Marsh.
11-02-2021, 05:38 PM
Warby (the Judge) goes on to say
125. I would accept that, in principle, it was legitimate for Mr Markle to seek to rebut the inaccurate suggestion that the Letter represented some form of “olive branch”....
But the Mail published more than was strictly necessary to show this....
The copyright trial will still go ahead, Warby rules, as she was allegedly aided in writing it by the Palace communications secretary, Jason Knauf. (The Express).
:joker:
rusticgal
11-02-2021, 05:39 PM
That will make her feel so 'empowered'....:laugh:
When is she going to sue People magazine, for revealing what was in the letter as told to them by a selection of friends; presenting her in the best light possible? :laugh:
Cherie
11-02-2021, 05:41 PM
That will make her feel so 'empowered'....:laugh:
When is she going to sue People magazine, for revealing what was in the letter as told to them by a selection of friends; presenting her in the best light possible? :laugh:
:dance:
Liam-
11-02-2021, 05:59 PM
Queen of beating scum
rusticgal
11-02-2021, 06:05 PM
Yes a Win in Court.
But many still Hate her.
She won a court claim....not a popularity contest :laugh:
UserSince2005
11-02-2021, 06:17 PM
Nasty nasty girl
Crimson Dynamo
11-02-2021, 06:19 PM
its a shame she does not make the same effort to heal the wounds she inflicted on her poor father
or indeed on our own Queen :(
nothing but a pyrrhic victory
Black Dagger
11-02-2021, 06:31 PM
Her father is a ****ing ghoul.
DouglasS
11-02-2021, 06:32 PM
its a shame she does not make the same effort to heal the wounds she inflicted on her poor father
or indeed on our own Queen :(
nothing but a pyrrhic victory
Yes I think she will regret that and her actions when her father passes (assuming he goes before her)
rusticgal
11-02-2021, 06:33 PM
its a shame she does not make the same effort to heal the wounds she inflicted on her poor father
or indeed on our own Queen :(
nothing but a pyrrhic victory
Suing her own father might make her look bad :joker:
Yes I think she will regret that and her actions when her father passed (assuming he goes before her)
She won't regret it. She didn't even ask him how he was after he had his heart attack. It's well documented that she's as cold as ice when your usefulness has passed.
Marsh.
11-02-2021, 06:38 PM
All these people acting like the authority on someone else's relationship with their own father.
:laugh2:
DouglasS
11-02-2021, 06:40 PM
All these people acting like the authority on someone else's relationship with their own father.
:laugh2:
You do realise we’re on a forum? It’s where people discuss things... this has been all over the news, it’s being discussed by people with differing opinions.. No one is acting like “the authority” :conf:
If you struggle to handle differing opinions maybe a forum isn’t a good place to be.
Shaun
11-02-2021, 06:42 PM
People really need to find something important to care about
rusticgal
11-02-2021, 06:44 PM
People really need to find something important to care about
You obviously care enough to come on this thread :shrug:
Marsh.
11-02-2021, 06:45 PM
You do realise we’re on a forum? It’s where people discuss things... this has been all over the news, it’s being discussed by people with differing opinions.. No one is acting like “the authority” :conf:
If you struggle to handle differing opinions maybe a forum isn’t a good place to be.
If you don't understand what was in the post you're responding to, why bother.
Discussing and having opinions on the news of her trial is one thing, acting like you're familiar with her and her father and their personal relationship is weird.
Continue with that all you like, but I'll comment on it, if you don't like differing opinions on that maybe a forum isn't for you. :thumbs:
Crimson Dynamo
11-02-2021, 06:47 PM
People really need to find something important to care about
maybe direct that at Glenn for making the thread rather than everyone?
or just ignore the thread
:shrug:
rusticgal
11-02-2021, 06:52 PM
maybe direct that at Glenn for making the thread rather than everyone?
or just ignore the thread
:shrug:
Spot on LT...:dance:
AnnieK
11-02-2021, 06:55 PM
I find it hard to have much sympathy with her father after he sold pictures prior to the wedding. Other than that, the whole affair is pretty personal as no-one really knows what goes on in families and should have been kept private by all sides. I applaud her for suing the media though, they need to be held accountable when they cross a line.
Crimson Dynamo
11-02-2021, 07:01 PM
I find it hard to have much sympathy with her father after he sold pictures prior to the wedding. Other than that, the whole affair is pretty personal as no-one really knows what goes on in families and should have been kept private by all sides. I applaud her for suing the media though, they need to be held accountable when they cross a line.
Newspapers always get sued its part and parcel of what they do and it helps them sell papers
win or lose they got the sales from the article
they could not give a tuppenny damn and never have
AnnieK
11-02-2021, 07:03 PM
Newspapers always get sued its part and parcel of what they do and it helps them sell papers
win or lose they got the sales from the article
they could not give a tuppenny damn and never have
I know that....I was just passing comment
joeysteele
11-02-2021, 07:19 PM
I find it hard to have much sympathy with her father after he sold pictures prior to the wedding. Other than that, the whole affair is pretty personal as no-one really knows what goes on in families and should have been kept private by all sides. I applaud her for suing the media though, they need to be held accountable when they cross a line.
That's what I applaud what you've said in your last line too.
What stuns me is people actually buy these trashy publications.
No way would I insult the English language by terming them news.....papers.
People spend hundreds of pounds EACH at least every year just to buy these gutter trash publications.
So I applaud her taking them on and now winning too.
As for any sour grapes as to her action, well that's all it is
She has come out the one seemed more right and on top.
So I congratulate her.
I've no great feelings either way on Meghan Markle or Prince Harry.
I've always just wished them well.
I don't know them, and never will, just as none possibly do on here either.
She has been shown to be right in her action so again I say.
Good luck to her and to Prince Harry too.
As for this garbage paper..
Well honestly, I'd send just about all of them the same way as the News of the World was forced to go.
SCRAPPED.
Glenn.
11-02-2021, 09:10 PM
So happy for her
Tom4784
11-02-2021, 09:29 PM
Good for her, may those with irrational hatred towards her remain bitter and seething.
Brother Leon
11-02-2021, 09:38 PM
As she should have. Good for her.
GoldHeart
11-02-2021, 09:50 PM
its a shame she does not make the same effort to heal the wounds she inflicted on her poor father
or indeed on our own Queen :(
nothing but a pyrrhic victory
Her dad a victim after everything he's done !?? :rolleyes:
That's so funny I forgot to laugh.
Her dad a victim after everything he's done !?? :rolleyes:
That's so funny I forgot to laugh.
What he's done was dote on her, spoil her, brought her up mostly single - handedly, worked his butt off to send her to all the top schools in LA and support her right through university. In her blog ‘the tig’ she was always saying what a wonderful and inspirational father he was - until she met Harry.
She refused palace advice to bring Harry to meet him. Why? She outright refused to let them advise him and get him looked after when the paps were pestering him night and day, camped outside his door and following him everywhere. He stupidly resorted to letting them take some staged pics so they would leave him alone.
It’s very sad that many young people today seemingly can see nothing wrong in cutting off a parent completely and depriving them of their grand child for a wrongdoing that they contributed to in the first place. Meghan drones on about compassion, yet has none whatsoever for her aging and ill father - and no forgiveness either….and she’s admired and defended for that. :sad:
Jake.
11-02-2021, 11:27 PM
What he's done was dote on her, spoil her, brought her up mostly single - handedly, worked his butt off to send her to all the top schools in LA and support her right through university. In her blog ‘the tig’ she was always saying what a wonderful and inspirational father he was - until she met Harry.
She refused palace advice to bring Harry to meet him. Why? She outright refused to let them advise him and get him looked after when the paps were pestering him night and day, camped outside his door and following him everywhere. He stupidly resorted to letting them take some staged pics so they would leave him alone.
It’s very sad that many young people today seemingly can see nothing wrong in cutting off a parent completely and depriving them of their grand child for a wrongdoing that they contributed to in the first place. Meghan drones on about compassion, yet has none whatsoever for her aging and ill father - and no forgiveness either….and she’s admired and defended for that. :sad:
..it’s almost as if you know more of her personal life than she does
rusticgal
11-02-2021, 11:34 PM
What he's done was dote on her, spoil her, brought her up mostly single - handedly, worked his butt off to send her to all the top schools in LA and support her right through university. In her blog ‘the tig’ she was always saying what a wonderful and inspirational father he was - until she met Harry.
She refused palace advice to bring Harry to meet him. Why? She outright refused to let them advise him and get him looked after when the paps were pestering him night and day, camped outside his door and following him everywhere. He stupidly resorted to letting them take some staged pics so they would leave him alone.
It’s very sad that many young people today seemingly can see nothing wrong in cutting off a parent completely and depriving them of their grand child for a wrongdoing that they contributed to in the first place. Meghan drones on about compassion, yet has none whatsoever for her aging and ill father - and no forgiveness either….and she’s admired and defended for that. :sad:
Her father was maybe wrong in the way he handled things....but Meghan does drone on about compassion and love and understanding towards others be it racial or otherwise...but her actions towards her own just family just doesn’t equate. How are people supposed to support her righteousness when she doesn’t do it herself. Practice what you preach...
..it’s almost as if you know more of her personal life than she does
Her earlier life is well documented, and the Palace aids pleading with her to let them help her father when the engagement broke and her stubborn refusal has been referred to in several books, including pro - Meghan publications. If you have read anything to the contrary, feel free to post it.
....and she hasn't sued, and herself and Harry love a good old sue....
Humming along to Old McDonald...
"With a lawsuit here, a lawsuit there, here I sue, there I sue, everywhere I sue sue". :hehe:
Mitchell
12-02-2021, 12:40 AM
Good for her, may those with irrational hatred towards her remain bitter and seething.
No change there then :joker:
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 12:52 AM
Her dad a victim after everything he's done !?? :rolleyes:
That's so funny I forgot to laugh.
He didn’t seem to handle it well...but considering Meghan spewed on about the lack of support and guidance she got ...what guidance and support did he get...NONE.
Good on her. Everyone deserves a right to their privacy if thats what they want no matter who they are or how you feel about them
Good on her. Everyone deserves a right to their privacy if thats what they want no matter who they are or how you feel about them
...absolutely and that’s the main point...regardless of how anyone feels about Meghan or any celebrity, this win is something that should be celebrated because the Tabloid media have such disregard for privacy on any level...their only aim is to sensationalise, however harmful that is...Meghan’s victory with this is a victory against their shabbiness and something which should be celebrated widely and I’m glad that she uses her voice in these things...
Yes, everyone deserves privacy, but Meghan didn’t care about her privacy when People magazine quoted her friends revealing those parts of the letter to her father that put her in a good light and her father bad. Did she sue them? Nope.
It’s fine for her fathers privacy to be breached but not Meghan's when he tries to defend himself. He doesn't have the means of having a 'voice' in the way she does.
It’s fine for her non - celebrity elderly fathers privacy to be breached when paps are camping on his doorstep and stalking him and Meghan refuses to let him be aided in any way.
Everyone deserves privacy ‘no matter who they are or how you feel about them’ but all that matters in this case is Meghan’s privacy. Okay.
Glenn.
12-02-2021, 07:39 AM
I’m just so happy that justice has been served and Meghan can move on from this nightmare.
Black Dagger
12-02-2021, 08:01 AM
Lovely Meghan <3
Yes, everyone deserves privacy, but Meghan didn’t care about her privacy when People magazine quoted her friends revealing those parts of the letter to her father that put her in a good light and her father bad. Did she sue them? Nope.
It’s fine for her fathers privacy to be breached but not Meghan's when he tries to defend himself. He doesn't have the means of having a 'voice' in the way she does.
It’s fine for her non - celebrity elderly fathers privacy to be breached when paps are camping on his doorstep and stalking him and Meghan refuses to let him be aided in any way.
Everyone deserves privacy ‘no matter who they are or how you feel about them’ but all that matters in this case is Meghan’s privacy. Okay.
This threads about Meghans case against the media, not her dad, not her friends, her. So yes in this discussion her privacy is really all that matters.
Posting yes everyone deserves privacy 'but'.... is just pettiness due to who she is.
This threads about Meghans case against the media, not her dad, not her friends, her. So yes in this discussion her privacy is really all that matters.
Posting yes everyone deserves privacy 'but'.... is just pettiness due to who she is.
Are you saying that everyone should strictly adhere to what a thread is about and never expand the discussion to include related elements?
You yourself said ‘everyone deserves privacy no matter who they are or what you feel about them’ - and I agreed in principle and expanded on your comment by referring to her father who after all was the recipient of the letter.
IMO your response is just the avoidance of responding with your own opinion to the content of the post.
arista
12-02-2021, 09:13 AM
"not her dad"
Be fair Josy,
He is the Bugger that caused all this.
Just read that the Telegraph has now printed the letter in full. :amazed:
arista
12-02-2021, 09:13 AM
Just read that the Telegraph has now printed the letter in full. :amazed:
How Nice
Are you saying that everyone should strictly adhere to what a thread is about and never expand the discussion to include related elements?
You yourself said ‘everyone deserves privacy no matter who they are or what you feel about them’ - and I agreed in principle and expanded on your comment by referring to her father who after all was the recipient of the letter.
IMO your response is just the avoidance of responding with your own opinion to the content of the post.
Umm no I'm not saying threads should never expand into other discussion at all my point was that yes you agreed in principle that everyone is entitled to privacy but of course because the person being discussed is Meghan you couldn't leave it at that...
I posted my own opinion in my very first comment, it related directly to the case... my main point being that regardless of what anyone thinks of Meghan or her father or anyone else it doesnt really change the fact that everyone is entitled to privacy if they wish to have it so it's a great thing that she won against these papers and hopefully sets a precedent for how they treat people in future, how anyone could disagree with that or even through in 'yeah buts' to try spin it to a negative is baffling tbh and just comes across as being due to who it is about
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 09:15 AM
Her father gave up his rights to privacy when he sold the letter. Whether he felt his hand had been forced by previous interviews, that is irrelevant. In this court case it is about Meghans privacy which was invaded by this article. If he were upset about previous interviews that was his time to take legal action. In this case his privacy is not in question as he chose to lay it out there.
"not her dad"
Be fair Josy,
He is the Bugger that caused all this.Quote the post in context Arista then it may make more sense to you.
Just read that the Telegraph has now printed the letter in full. :amazed:So you dont believe everyone deserves or is entitled to privacy at all then..which contradicts your earlier comments. Hmmm okay.
So you dont believe everyone deserves or is entitled to privacy at all then..which contradicts your earlier comments. Hmmm okay.
I stated something I had read with a shocked emoticon and you get that from it? Wth?
I stated something I had read with a shocked emoticon and you get that from it? Wth?Ok apologies it shows up on my tapatalk as an amazed emoticon.
Cherie
12-02-2021, 09:32 AM
Just read that the Telegraph has now printed the letter in full. :amazed:
I think you used the wrong one tbf this is :shocked: :laugh:
I don’t know how that could have happened, the full letter being published that is
Umm no I'm not saying threads should never expand into other discussion at all my point was that yes you agreed in principle that everyone is entitled to privacy but of course because the person being discussed is Meghan you couldn't leave it at that...
I posted my own opinion in my very first comment, it related directly to the case... my main point being that regardless of what anyone thinks of Meghan or her father or anyone else it doesnt really change the fact that everyone is entitled to privacy if they wish to have it so it's a great thing that she won against these papers and hopefully sets a precedent for how they treat people in future, how anyone could disagree with that or even through in 'yeah buts' to try spin it to a negative is baffling tbh and just comes across as being due to who it is about
I agree that everyone is entitled to privacy and I pointed out that her father was also. No 'spin', just my opinion...and yes, its no secret that I dislike her a lot and I have no particular liking for her father either. I just can't stand unfairness and hypocrisy.
As for setting a precedent for how the tabloids treat people in future, its all been done before numerous times (by members of the royals before her as well) and it has made no difference. :shrug:
In the case of private letters I totally agree they should remain private for both the writer and the recipient and the win was correct.
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 09:59 AM
Ok apologies it shows up on my tapatalk as an amazed emoticon.
It is the amazed one :laugh:
arista
12-02-2021, 10:09 AM
Quote the post in context Arista then it may make more sense to you.
It makes full sense to me.
Ok apologies it shows up on my tapatalk as an amazed emoticon.
My mistake, I used the wrong one, it looked 'shocked' to me. :hehe:
I don't see how you would have gotten what you did from my post even with an 'amazed' emote though - as in "I'm amazed how they would have the audacity to print the letter". :huh:
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 10:19 AM
My mistake, I used the wrong one, it looked 'shocked' to me. :hehe:
I don't see how you would have gotten what you did from my post even with an 'amazed' emote though - as in "I'm amazed how they would have the audacity to print the letter". :huh:
I think it's because that emoji usually is posted when you're happily amazed, like it's great news If you know what I mean? Like - Josy is pregnant :amazed:
smudgie
12-02-2021, 10:20 AM
Pleased for her.
As to her relationship with her father, it’s up to her and I certainly wouldn’t want him in my life.
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 10:21 AM
I agree that everyone is entitled to privacy and I pointed out that her father was also. No 'spin', just my opinion...and yes, its no secret that I dislike her a lot and I have no particular liking for her father either. I just can't stand unfairness and hypocrisy.
As for setting a precedent for how the tabloids treat people in future, its all been done before numerous times (by members of the royals before her as well) and it has made no difference. :shrug:
In the case of private letters I totally agree they should remain private for both the writer and the recipient and the win was correct.
I agree that private should stay private.
I don't understand what hypocrisy there is though. Meghan feels her privacy has been invaded by her father releasing the letter and that is what has been the crux of this case. Her issue is with the publication in this case, not her father. If he had an issue with previous interviews, that was for him to then take similar action against that publication. It is not Meghan taking on her father in this case. She has taken exception at this publication, as is her right. She has taken legal action which has ruled in her favour in the points of law therefore no hypocrisy or unfairness.
Had she sued her father, I would understand your view more but in this case I don't see what the problem is.
I think it's because that emoji usually is posted when you're happily amazed, like it's great news If you know what I mean? Like - Josy is pregnant :amazed:
Oh, I would use it differently...
Josy is pregnant?? Lovely news, Congrats Josy! :dance:
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 10:28 AM
Oh, I would use it differently...
Josy is pregnant?? Lovely news, Congrats Josy! :dance:
Yes :amazed:
:p
I agree that private should stay private.
I don't understand what hypocrisy there is though. Meghan feels her privacy has been invaded by her father releasing the letter and that is what has been the crux of this case. Her issue is with the publication in this case, not her father. If he had an issue with previous interviews, that was for him to then take similar action against that publication. It is not Meghan taking on her father in this case. She has taken exception at this publication, as is her right. She has taken legal action which has ruled in her favour in the points of law therefore no hypocrisy or unfairness.
Had she sued her father, I would understand your view more but in this case I don't see what the problem is.
Her father felt his privacy had been invaded by Meghan showing the letter to her friends and People magazine then printing what the friends told them was in the letter, apparently with Meghan’s blessing. Meghan took no exception at this publication as it showed her in a good light and him bad. Unlike Meghan he hadn’t the deep pockets, if needed, to sue People even if he had wanted to.
The defense of how he was portrayed in the People mag was the reason her father showed the letter to the paper in the first place who then printed extracts and led to them being sued by Meghan.
I’m referring to the human side of things here, not just points of law. I see unfairness and hypocrisy in this.
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 11:22 AM
Yes, everyone deserves privacy, but Meghan didn’t care about her privacy when People magazine quoted her friends revealing those parts of the letter to her father that put her in a good light and her father bad. Did she sue them? Nope.
It’s fine for her fathers privacy to be breached but not Meghan's when he tries to defend himself. He doesn't have the means of having a 'voice' in the way she does.
It’s fine for her non - celebrity elderly fathers privacy to be breached when paps are camping on his doorstep and stalking him and Meghan refuses to let him be aided in any way.
Everyone deserves privacy ‘no matter who they are or how you feel about them’ but all that matters in this case is Meghan’s privacy. Okay.
:clap1::clap1::clap1:
Mystic Mock
12-02-2021, 11:24 AM
Tbh this is one of those issues where it's quite black and white and no matter how much some people may dislike Meghan, the correct verdict was handed out.
However I also agree with Jet that Meghan shouldn't have been showing off her Father's letter to People Magazine.
LukeB
12-02-2021, 11:24 AM
Pleased for her.
As to her relationship with her father, it’s up to her and I certainly wouldn’t want him in my life.
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People just got to stop being fake and pretending they care about her father when they only do because of their toxic hate for Meghan.
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 11:29 AM
Her father felt his privacy had been invaded by Meghan showing the letter to her friends and People magazine then printing what the friends told them was in the letter, apparently with Meghan’s blessing. Meghan took no exception at this publication as it showed her in a good light and him bad. Unlike Meghan he hadn’t the deep pockets, if needed, to sue People even if he had wanted to.
The defense of how he was portrayed in the People mag was the reason her father showed the letter to the paper in the first place who then printed extracts and led to them being sued by Meghan.
I’m referring to the human side of things here, not just points of law. I see unfairness and hypocrisy in this.
The human side is pretty murky I will agree. However, so was him selling photographs before the wedding. There is fault on both sides but it seems that only Meghan receives the derision from lots of people
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 11:29 AM
Tbh this is one of those issues where it's quite black and white and no matter how much some people may dislike Meghan, the correct verdict was handed out.
However I also agree with Jet that Meghan shouldn't have been showing off her Father's letter to People Magazine.
I dont think anyone has disagreed with the verdict...
LukeB
12-02-2021, 11:32 AM
I dont think anyone has disagreed with the verdict...
Then why can’t you just say good on her and be done with it? Rather than your first post and then more negativity and taking about her dad and stuff. We know you hate Meghan but it’s the same in every thread the hate gets toxic for no reason over a woman who hasn’t done anything bad.
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 11:33 AM
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People just got to stop being fake and pretending they care about her father when they only do because of their toxic hate for Meghan.
Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....
LukeB
12-02-2021, 11:34 AM
Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....
He doesn’t get half of the toxic abuse Meghan does :shrug:
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 11:40 AM
He doesn’t get half of the toxic abuse Meghan does :shrug:
Neither should get toxic abuse as its just....toxic and uncalled for in a world that is already on its knees :shrug:
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 11:43 AM
Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....
Anyone who I've seen on here talk about her father is always just doing so in response to people saying how awful Meghan is to him
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 11:54 AM
Then why can’t you just say good on her and be done with it? Rather than your first post and then more negativity and taking about her dad and stuff. We know you hate Meghan but it’s the same in every thread the hate gets toxic for no reason over a woman who hasn’t done anything bad.
My first post was not negative...take another look. I only went on to mention her father when he was bought into the debate.
How do you know she hasnt done anything 'bad'....She has offended many but you dont see what she does as offensive...thats your opinion.
Nothing on here gets toxic...so stop exaggerating. If people dont like her then deal with it...but just show me the toxic comments on here PLEASE.
LukeB
12-02-2021, 11:55 AM
Neither should get toxic abuse as its just....toxic and uncalled for in a world that is already on its knees :shrug:
yeah I agree with that tbh. It’s just ugly women getting the most of it and the men get’s hardly anything. 2021 and sexism is still a thing
The human side is pretty murky I will agree. However, so was him selling photographs before the wedding. There is fault on both sides but it seems that only Meghan receives the derision from lots of people
That's because she is the one who is the instigator of trouble….its a recurring theme...:hehe:
If she hadn’t point blank refused Palace aids “who were tearing their hair out” advice to let them help and advise her father after the engagement news broke, those photos wouldn’t have been taken.
The paps were all over him for months after that, day after day. Whenever he had to leave the house they published the most unflattering pics they could and painted him as a slob (he has a big belly!)
In desperation, he spruced himself up and let them take some staged pics on the agreement they would leave him alone.
They didn’t, of course. Whether he got paid for them we don’t know for sure - I’d guess he did - but it’s really not miles away from Meghan releasing flattering pics for her website/business/blog.
How she could then ruthlessly cut him out of her life for good for that, I can’t fathom. Seems the punishment doesn’t quite fit the crime here…..because I can see it from his point of view, but not from hers in this case.
LukeB
12-02-2021, 11:59 AM
My first post was not negative...take another look. I only went on to mention her father when he was bought into the debate.
How do you know she hasnt done anything 'bad'....She has offended many but you dont see what she does as offensive...thats your opinion.
Nothing on here gets toxic...so stop exaggerating. If people dont like her then deal with it...but just show me the toxic comments on here PLEASE.
It wasn’t exactly a good comment :shrug:
Because she isn’t a criminal, she hasn’t done anything wrong and she hasn’t done anything problematic not like you can judge since you wanted trump to free a dangerous criminal. People are offended by anything she does... people even made an issue over the whole ‘husband and I’ thing. It does get toxic here and social media. It’s a fact and not exaggerated
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 12:01 PM
He doesn’t get half of the toxic abuse Meghan does :shrug:
Thats because he isnt in the press and on the TV every other day....
LukeB
12-02-2021, 12:01 PM
Thats because he isnt in the press and on the TV every other day....
And he wouldn’t get that much abuse if he was because he’s a man
And he wouldn’t get that much abuse if he was because he’s a man
Huh? :huh:
no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs :laugh:
LukeB
12-02-2021, 12:07 PM
Huh? :huh:
I mean he wouldn’t get the same treatment as Meghan because women and men are treated differently and it’s mostly the women getting all the abuse.
Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....Well that's just it, theres no need for toxic abuse or hate at all, dislike for people in the public eye is fair enough and is understandable but pure hatred is just OTT
I mean he wouldn’t get the same treatment as Meghan because women and men are treated differently and it’s mostly the women getting all the abuse.
Imo that's nonsense. People are individuals and their actions matter, not their gender.
LukeB
12-02-2021, 12:13 PM
Imo that's nonsense. People are individuals and their actions matter, not their gender.
No it’s not nonsense at all it’s common knowledge. Women get the most of it and the men get little or none. No one is treated equally at all.
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 12:17 PM
no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs :laugh:
Completely agree.
Things happen within families.....that no-one actually knows the full extent of unless it directly involves them. I have personal experience of this....my brother and I almost fell out after my mum died over something that happened whilst she was dying that I didn't tell him about to save his feelings but as he didn't know that, my behaviour seemed pretty cold hearted. Once explained it was all sorted but had that been splashed over the papers first, it would have been relationship over for us I'm sure
no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs :laugh:
Then they all need to stop leaking stories about their relationships to the likes of People mag and the Mail - and in Meghan's case stop approving books that tell even more about it. :hee:
thesheriff443
12-02-2021, 12:22 PM
There is no obsessive hate for Meghan on this forum she has as many people that like her as dislike her.
She has won a court case that involved her father so in my eyes she hasn’t won anything of any real value
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 12:31 PM
It wasn’t exactly a good comment :shrug:
Because she isn’t a criminal, she hasn’t done anything wrong and she hasn’t done anything problematic not like you can judge since you wanted trump to free a dangerous criminal. People are offended by anything she does... people even made an issue over the whole ‘husband and I’ thing. It does get toxic here and social media. It’s a fact and not exaggerated
...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word :laugh:
Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy :shrug:
You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 12:35 PM
Anyone who I've seen on here talk about her father is always just doing so in response to people saying how awful Meghan is to him
With equally 'Toxic' comments....that was my point.
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 12:38 PM
With equally 'Toxic' comments....that was my point.
I would disagree with that personally
LukeB
12-02-2021, 12:40 PM
...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word :laugh:
Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy :shrug:
You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.
Just saying :shrug:
She hasn’t though nothing bad to justify OTT hate :shrug: I do dislike people but you don’t really see me constantly saying anything negative and clutch at straws in every Katie Hopkins and others thread. I hardly say anything at all so no It doesn’t make me toxic. I’m not exaggerating.
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 12:40 PM
yeah I agree with that tbh. It’s just ugly women getting the most of it and the men get’s hardly anything. 2021 and sexism is still a thing
Calling her UGLY is very toxic....talking of men hardly get anything....when LT bought her father into the debate it was all wrong....:hee:
LukeB
12-02-2021, 12:42 PM
Calling her UGLY is very toxic....talking of men hardly get anything....when LT bought her father into the debate it was all wrong....:hee:
I didn’t call anyone ugly :shrug: and I started off with addressing the father stuff to everyone then you quoted me and I’ve seen you made comments about the father stuff.
...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word [emoji23]
Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy :shrug:
You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.
My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 12:48 PM
Just saying :shrug:
She hasn’t though nothing bad to justify OTT hate :shrug: I do dislike people but you don’t really see me constantly saying anything negative and clutch at straws in every Katie Hopkins and others thread. I hardly say anything at all so no It doesn’t make me toxic. I’m not exaggerating.
There is no hate...there is no toxicity...its just dislike.
Thats up to you if you dont want to discuss Katie Hopkins on every thread...but you can if you want. That doesnt make you any better than me or less toxic.
LukeB
12-02-2021, 12:50 PM
There is no hate...there is no toxicity...its just dislike.
Thats up to you if you dont want to discuss Katie Hopkins on every thread...but you can if you want. That doesnt make you any better than me or less toxic.
It would make me toxic though :shrug: too much hate is toxic and obsessive but I choose not to go down that route. It would help you so much, if you dislike someone that much why would you want them living in your head rent free? it’s so easy to not comment at all and move on it’s very healthy
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 12:55 PM
Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.
My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh
Well you contradict yourself there Josy...a debate naturally takes you in different directions which is why her father came into it....I dont know why you would feel flabberghasted :shrug:....
thesheriff443
12-02-2021, 12:56 PM
Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.
My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh
Winning a privacy case against a news paper because you don’t like what was written but happy for your privacy to printed in another magazine because it showed you in a good light is why people don’t applaud her win against a newspaper
It’s not about privacy for Meghan it’s about having control of what is written.
Well you contradict yourself there Josy...a debate naturally takes you in different directions which is why her father came into it....I dont know why you would feel flabberghasted :shrug:....I dont contradict myself at all actually, if you go back and read the posts between myself and jet you will see that no one said what you seem to think...
And like I said I'm flabbergasted that anyone could think that an individual winning a privacy case against the newspapers could in any way be spinned to be a negative thing.
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 01:09 PM
Winning a privacy case against a news paper because you don’t like what was written but happy for your privacy to printed in another magazine because it showed you in a good light is why people don’t applaud her win against a newspaper
It’s not about privacy for Meghan it’s about having control of what is written.
That's the way privacy laws work though. She is able to sue the newspapers....as are you if you so wished....to whatever end she likes. I'm sure if something negative and damaging to you was posted on here and you reported it, it would be removed but you would not report a post saying you were amazing and the best member ever. Its human nature not to want to negative attention and the way privacy laws work you can do something about it :shrug:
thesheriff443
12-02-2021, 01:36 PM
That's the way privacy laws work though. She is able to sue the newspapers....as are you if you so wished....to whatever end she likes. I'm sure if something negative and damaging to you was posted on here and you reported it, it would be removed but you would not report a post saying you were amazing and the best member ever. Its human nature not to want to negative attention and the way privacy laws work you can do something about it :shrug:
The privacy involves the same letter in which he friends told the magazine it was a peace offering when in reality it was not.
You can’t have it both ways it’s either private or it’s not
GoldHeart
12-02-2021, 01:44 PM
He didn’t seem to handle it well...but considering Meghan spewed on about the lack of support and guidance she got ...what guidance and support did he get...NONE.
I was unaware you were such a close personal friend with the royal family and Meghan's dad , what's it like ??.:whistle: anyone would think you had inside gospel information.
The fact that Meghan's dad showed his true colours in his little cash grab documentary ,speaks volumes that people still blame Meghan .
Him and Meghan's sister both come across very bitter and unhealthy in the way they air their dirty laundry and the way they conduct themselves ,but yeah it's all Meghan's fault as she's the devil oops I forgot :notimpressed: .
And as mentioned before this is a private sensitive issue which shouldn't be plastered all over media with twisted narrative . Non of us will ever know the full details , but to me it seems there's resentment and jealousy . And the judgemental unfair treatment of Meghan is just typical .
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 02:03 PM
Well that's just it, theres no need for toxic abuse or hate at all, dislike for people in the public eye is fair enough and is understandable but pure hatred is just OTT
Its not OTT though....its just opinion.
There is no toxic abuse or hatred....people really need to get a grip with the dramatics...its laughable.
...and by the way I only used the toxic word as a response to the post..
Glenn.
12-02-2021, 02:07 PM
yeah I agree with that tbh. It’s just ugly women getting the most of it and the men get’s hardly anything. 2021 and sexism is still a thing
It’s even worse when the toxicity towards Meghan comes from grown men.
Tom4784
12-02-2021, 02:08 PM
At the end of the day, her father sold stories about her, he sold private letters, he tried to profit from his own daughter's wedding. You can't both sides this and make out that people are just as toxic to her father when it's not the case. Her father isn't in the news every other day, there isn't articles slamming him for holding his belly, there certainly wasn't any comparable articles to when the tabloid rags slammed her for saying something like 'My husband and I'. The only times he has been brought up has been a result of his own wrongdoing towards his daughter. He actually did something to deserve the bad press and the criticism while people bend over backwards to find reasons to hate on Meghan, to try to make out that both are similar is just the most disingenuous bull****.
If this was anyone else, no one would be on the father's side, absolutely no one, but because it's a mixed race american woman who had the audacity to marry a prince, people are accepting the gaslighting because they think it gives their irrational, crazy hatred of this woman substance when it does not. It just highlights how far gone people are.
Oh, and since I already know the responses to this post, I'll just tackle the predictable 'Meghan fan' response that gets dished out to anyone that isn't cutting letters out of a magazine to send her death threats. You don't have to be a fan of someone to see how they are treated is bull****, but you do have to hate someone deeply to the point of irrationality to go against the grain of reality to find reasons to justify hating someone like that. As I said before, if this wasn't Meghan, the people who are defending the father would not be doing so because it's clear as day that he's looking to profit off his own daughter. The fact people are saying 'Everyone deserves a right to privacy but....' to try to justify a reason for Meghan's privacy to be invalidated just says it all.
Take a breath, step away from the computer and just look inward. The hatred towards this woman is not normal behaviour.
Glenn.
12-02-2021, 02:10 PM
Watching the haters spin themselves into a frenzy over this positive news because they simply refuse to see anything positive in her is amazing.
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 02:12 PM
The holding her belly when pregnant is the weirdest most nit picky one I've read actually, pretty much every pregnant woman holds her belly like that sometimes, bizarre
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 02:16 PM
I was unaware you were such a close personal friend with the royal family and Meghan's dad , what's it like ??.:whistle: anyone would think you had inside gospel information.
The fact that Meghan's dad showed his true colours in his little cash grab documentary ,speaks volumes that people still blame Meghan .
Him and Meghan's sister both come across very bitter and unhealthy in the way they air their dirty laundry and the way they conduct themselves ,but yeah it's all Meghan's fault as she's the devil oops I forgot :notimpressed: .
And as mentioned before this is a private sensitive issue which shouldn't be plastered all over media with twisted narrative . Non of us will ever know the full details , but to me it seems there's resentment and jealousy . And the judgemental unfair treatment of Meghan is just typical .
Dont start the 'didnt know you were a personal friend crap'.....I dont see you saying that to anyone else who passes comment on someone. Your defense of someone you dont know is equally questionable...
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 02:18 PM
Watching the haters spin themselves into a frenzy over this positive news because they simply refuse to see anything positive in her is amazing.
:pat:
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 02:27 PM
The privacy involves the same letter in which he friends told the magazine it was a peace offering when in reality it was not.
You can’t have it both ways it’s either private or it’s not
Well.obviously you can as her case was successful :shrug: I think the courts are probably better well equipped on what is an invasion of privacy than either of us.
Tom4784
12-02-2021, 02:27 PM
Dont start the 'didnt know you were a personal friend crap'.....I dont see you saying that to anyone else who passes comment on someone. Your defense of someone you dont know is equally questionable...
Because other people that are passing comments are actually looking to the facts we know of.
People who hate Meghan are reluctantly pretending to accept this result while also trying to find a way to blame her for everything and invalidate the ruling.
Trying to make out that GoldHeart is doing the same thing as you is just an attempt to make her look worse by comparing her to what you are doing. A flawed tactic.
GoldHeart
12-02-2021, 02:29 PM
Dont start the 'didnt know you were a personal friend crap'.....I dont see you saying that to anyone else who passes comment on someone. Your defense of someone you dont know is equally questionable...
If I sat and responded to every nit picking critism and unfair treatment of Meghan then I'd be here till next Christmas :sleep:
Well was I being unreasonable with my statement? as non of us personally know Meghan's dad or the royal family or Meghan herself . There's 2 sides to a story .
I don't understand why Meghan's dad gets all the sympathy when he's far from the victim in all this . And he's his own destroyer . He seems to care more about selling his daughter down the river than her actual feelings .
The holding her belly when pregnant is the weirdest most nit picky one I've read actually, pretty much every pregnant woman holds her belly like that sometimes, bizarre
...and this...
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/9-5e1dc22a03b07__700.jpg
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 02:40 PM
...and this...
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Pockets in dresses are so rare it would be a crime not to tbh!! But yeah, seriously wtaf?? The height of pettiness
Pockets in dresses are so rare it would be a crime not to tbh!! But yeah, seriously wtaf?? The height of pettiness
...I love a pocket ...:love:..and now appreciate that keeping them fairly empty means that my hands fit in, which somehow gives a strange feeling of comfort and safety ...I read a headline this morning...
‘Why the Duchess of Cambridge should take a fashion lesson from Sweden’s Crown Princess Victoria’
...so now that the U.K. media doesn’t get the opportunity to criticise Meghan so much and compare her unfavourably to Kate at every opportunity...it seems they may be turning their eyes a bit to Kate, sadly....strangely, we don’t see prominent males of importance constantly compared in the same way...*insert name* wore his tie with just the correct knot tension....but *insert name*, well that was a little too loose for a Royal for goodness sake, what were they thinking....
GoldHeart
12-02-2021, 03:00 PM
...and this...
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/9-5e1dc22a03b07__700.jpg
ikr :facepalm: :bored: , imagine hating on someone so badly to then mock and belittle every little thing they do. It's ridiculous.
...practising the sacrifice of children at your wedding, though...it’s good that Ms Meghan has gone, tbh...we’ll have none of that here...
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/7-5e1d80420d85a__700.jpg
...obviously it was a female child’s life that she put in danger...leave them boys alone...
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 03:04 PM
...I love a pocket ...:love:..and now appreciate that keeping them fairly empty means that my hands fit in, which somehow gives a strange feeling of comfort and safety ...I read a headline this morning...
‘Why the Duchess of Cambridge should take a fashion lesson from Sweden’s Crown Princess Victoria’
...so now that the U.K. media doesn’t get the opportunity to criticise Meghan so much and compare her unfavourably to Kate at every opportunity...it seems they may be turning their eyes a bit to Kate, sadly....strangely, we don’t see prominent males of importance constantly compared in the same way...*insert name* wore his tie with just the correct knot tension....but *insert name*, well that was a little too loose for a Royal for goodness sake, what were they thinking....
Yeah always women being compared and picked at, sexism at it's finest
GoldHeart
12-02-2021, 03:08 PM
...obviously it was a female child’s life that she put in danger...leave them boys alone...
Yeah some BS about a flower allergy Charlotte allegedly had as Meghan was portrayed as some witch that poisoned her according to these incredible sources :bored: :notimpressed: .
Tom4784
12-02-2021, 03:10 PM
It's what always bothers me about the whole Meghan situation, it's motivated by bigotry, a vile mix of sexism, racism and xenophobia.
LukeB
12-02-2021, 03:11 PM
Yeah always women being compared and picked at, sexism at it's finest
it's either that or two females in a fued with no evidence other than being women :laugh: you would think all that crap would not be a thing today but sadly it is.
thesheriff443
12-02-2021, 03:12 PM
Well.obviously you can as her case was successful :shrug: I think the courts are probably better well equipped on what is an invasion of privacy than either of us.
She lets her friends tell a false side to the story and sued the paper that told the whole story
She won a case but it has done her no favours
The queen wont put up with their nonsense and banned Harry from laying a wreath because it was a p1ss take only for them to release a picture of them in cemetery for falling soldiers
Tom4784
12-02-2021, 03:16 PM
She lets her friends tell a false side to the story and sued the paper that told the whole story
She won a case but it has done her no favours
The queen wont put up with their nonsense and banned Harry from laying a wreath because it was a p1ss take only for them to release a picture of them in cemetery for falling soldiers
This is what happens when you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction.
GoldHeart
12-02-2021, 03:16 PM
It's what always bothers me about the whole Meghan situation, it's motivated by bigotry, a vile mix of sexism, racism and xenophobia.
And even though it's obvious , those things still get denied :bored: . Disgusting really .
Especially with the petty stupid comparisons they kept doing with Kate .
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 03:17 PM
She lets her friends tell a false side to the story and sued the paper that told the whole story
She won a case but it has done her no favours
The queen wont put up with their nonsense and banned Harry from laying a wreath because it was a p1ss take only for them to release a picture of them in cemetery for falling soldiers
I honestly don't really care if it does her any favours or not :laugh: that's not me being facetious, I honestly don't.
As for the Queen, she is entitled to do what she wants too. I don't really care about that either.
My point in this thread has only ever been that Meghan has not done anything that terrible with this case. She didn't like what she read, had a case and won in a court of law. She didn't sue her father, only a publication who, like LT pointed out yesterday, won't care as its publicity so a win for them too in that respect.
it's either that or two females in a fued with no evidence other than being women :laugh: you would think all that crap would not be a thing today but sadly it is.
...and also that their specific individualities would be equally celebrated as with males, rather than comparing as if clones and all have to ‘conform’ to something that males are never expected to...
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 03:31 PM
She lets her friends tell a false side to the story and sued the paper that told the whole story
She won a case but it has done her no favours
The queen wont put up with their nonsense and banned Harry from laying a wreath because it was a p1ss take only for them to release a picture of them in cemetery for falling soldiers
Wasn't Harry actually in the Army? Surely he has every right to pay his respects whether it's with the Royal family or just with his wife?
Yeah some BS about a flower allergy Charlotte allegedly had as Meghan was portrayed as some witch that poisoned her according to these incredible sources :bored: :notimpressed: .
...and also...
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/10-5e1dc369e8a0d__700.jpg
Kate: "It was reported that new Duchess of Cambridge requested her favorite scented candles and toiletries from luxury fragrance brand Jo Malone be delivered to scent the Abbey. A selection of candles, handwashes and lotions was requested, specifically in citrus spring scents including Orange Blossom, Grapefruit and the ever-popular Lime, Basil & Mandarin." Daily Mail: May 4, 2011
Meghan: "'Meghan wanted staff to go around with these atomizers, like spritzer guns, and spray the chapel with scent before anyone arrived. Royal Household staff stepped in and told her office politely, but firmly, that this was the queen's chapel and it simply wasn't appropriate. I don't believe they said no because they thought it could affect the chapel in any way. It was simply the principle of the thing. This is a place that has held royal weddings, funerals and even contains the royal vault. I don't believe a request of that nature had been made before.'" Daily Mail: Nov. 30, 2018
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 03:51 PM
If I sat and responded to every nit picking critism and unfair treatment of Meghan then I'd be here till next Christmas :sleep:
Well was I being unreasonable with my statement? as non of us personally know Meghan's dad or the royal family or Meghan herself . There's 2 sides to a story .
I don't understand why Meghan's dad gets all the sympathy when he's far from the victim in all this . And he's his own destroyer . He seems to care more about selling his daughter down the river than her actual feelings .
Of course there are two sides to every story....none of us know them so we simply have opinions on what we observe...and we all observe differently. However...the "do you know them personally" comment is pathetic because its obvious no one here knows them personally, Its a ridiculous reaction to someone debating on a forum.
If Meghan wants to keep putting herself on the public stage then she has to take the rough with the smooth....and not everyone is going to like her...thats life.
...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word :laugh:
Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy :shrug:
You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.
Absolutely. People can try bullying those that don't like her off the forum with words like hatred and toxic and accusations of racism and misogyny, and its allowed. Its as if throwing those accusations around is going to change anyone's mind. Crazy and childish stuff that isn't going to work because I for one will continue to dislike her as long as I feel I have reason to - and I'll post what I want, when I want while trying to stay within the rules which used to be 'address the content of the post, not the poster' - but not any more it seems.
Of course there are two sides to every story....none of us know them so we simply have opinions on what we observe...and we all observe differently. However...the "do you know them personally" comment is pathetic because its obvious no one here knows them personally, Its a ridiculous reaction to someone debating on a forum.
If Meghan wants to keep putting herself on the public stage then she has to take the rough with the smooth....and not everyone is going to like her...thats life.
Stop being so sensible and level headed Rusti.... :hehe: :love:
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 04:06 PM
...and also...
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/10-5e1dc369e8a0d__700.jpg
Kate: "It was reported that new Duchess of Cambridge requested her favorite scented candles and toiletries from luxury fragrance brand Jo Malone be delivered to scent the Abbey. A selection of candles, handwashes and lotions was requested, specifically in citrus spring scents including Orange Blossom, Grapefruit and the ever-popular Lime, Basil & Mandarin." Daily Mail: May 4, 2011
Meghan: "'Meghan wanted staff to go around with these atomizers, like spritzer guns, and spray the chapel with scent before anyone arrived. Royal Household staff stepped in and told her office politely, but firmly, that this was the queen's chapel and it simply wasn't appropriate. I don't believe they said no because they thought it could affect the chapel in any way. It was simply the principle of the thing. This is a place that has held royal weddings, funerals and even contains the royal vault. I don't believe a request of that nature had been made before.'" Daily Mail: Nov. 30, 2018
You are not allowed to quote the tabloids if you are discussing Meghan....:laugh:
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 04:06 PM
Stop being so sensible and level headed Rusti.... :hehe: :love:
:laugh:
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 04:14 PM
Wasn't Harry actually in the Army? Surely he has every right to pay his respects whether it's with the Royal family or just with his wife?
Of course he can....and what a nice gesture it was of the two of them...thing is it wasnt just the two of them...he invited a film crew to record it and photographers....a deliberate swipe at the Monarchy.
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 04:16 PM
Of course he can....and what a nice gesture it was of the two of them...thing is it wasnt just the two of them...he invited a film crew to record it and photographers....a deliberate swipe at the Monarchy.
That's a very cynical view to have, maybe as an ex army member and (ex?) Royal, he wanted to make sure the Public knew he was still honouring the Day and paying his respects, maybe that was important to him. Why would it be a swipe at the Monarchy? What skin is it off their nose if he lays a wreath elsewhere?
Of course he can....and what a nice gesture it was of the two of them...thing is it wasnt just the two of them...he invited a film crew to record it and photographers....a deliberate swipe at the Monarchy.
Yes, and not just a photographer - a fashion photographer who captured Meg tramping over the graves in her stilettos. The whole debacle was universally criticized for the tackiness, but I'm sure it will be seen as a lovely selfless gesture by her fans. :shrug:
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 04:22 PM
Yes, and not just a photographer - a fashion photographer who captured Meg tramping over the graves in her stilettos. The whole debacle was universally criticized for the tackiness, but I'm sure it will be seen as a lovely selfless gesture by her fans. :shrug:
I'm not a "fan" whatever that means btw. How can you even be a fan of what are basically socialites (I include the other Royals in that too) I just think the woman gets a lot of undue scrutiny and criticism
I'm not a "fan" whatever that means btw. How can you even be a fan of what are basically socialites (I include the other Royals in that too) I just think the woman gets a lot of undue scrutiny and criticism
Oh believe me she has rabid fans - have you never heard of the 'Sugars'. They are known for being poisonous, giving out death threats and such. :rolleyes:
I think they are mostly teenagers though.
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 04:31 PM
Oh believe me she has rabid fans - have you never heard of the 'Sugars'. They are known for being poisonous, giving out death threats and such. :rolleyes:
I think they are mostly teenagers though.
I've only ever seen that word on here, you've mentioned it before.
Niamh.
12-02-2021, 04:36 PM
Actually I just googled Sugars, they don't actually call themselves that according to the results I got, it's critics of Meghan who have labelled "fans" that? So it's not like GaGa's Little Monsters or Justin Bieber's Belibers etc? It's basically an insult towards anyone who defends Meghan by people who dislike her.
Actually I just googled Sugars, they don't actually call themselves that according to the results I got, it's critics of Meghan who have labelled "fans" that? So it's not like GaGa's Little Monsters or Justin Bieber's Belibers etc? It's basically an insult towards anyone who defends Meghan by people who dislike her.
...I was just about to post that...I googled it also and i could only find one article that mentioned it and it being a term that had been attached by Meghan detractors on social media...
‘One such Twitter user CelticQ, who has since deleted their account "Exposing Meghan Markle", used the term in July 2018, a few months after the former-actresses wedding.’
Glenn.
12-02-2021, 04:40 PM
Actually I just googled Sugars, they don't actually call themselves that according to the results I got, it's critics of Meghan who have labelled "fans" that? So it's not like GaGa's Little Monsters or Justin Bieber's Belibers etc? It's basically an insult towards anyone who defends Meghan by people who dislike her.
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At the end of the day, her father sold stories about her, he sold private letters, he tried to profit from his own daughter's wedding. You can't both sides this and make out that people are just as toxic to her father when it's not the case. Her father isn't in the news every other day, there isn't articles slamming him for holding his belly, there certainly wasn't any comparable articles to when the tabloid rags slammed her for saying something like 'My husband and I'. The only times he has been brought up has been a result of his own wrongdoing towards his daughter. He actually did something to deserve the bad press and the criticism while people bend over backwards to find reasons to hate on Meghan, to try to make out that both are similar is just the most disingenuous bull****.
If this was anyone else, no one would be on the father's side, absolutely no one, but because it's a mixed race american woman who had the audacity to marry a prince, people are accepting the gaslighting because they think it gives their irrational, crazy hatred of this woman substance when it does not. It just highlights how far gone people are.
Oh, and since I already know the responses to this post, I'll just tackle the predictable 'Meghan fan' response that gets dished out to anyone that isn't cutting letters out of a magazine to send her death threats. You don't have to be a fan of someone to see how they are treated is bull****, but you do have to hate someone deeply to the point of irrationality to go against the grain of reality to find reasons to justify hating someone like that. As I said before, if this wasn't Meghan, the people who are defending the father would not be doing so because it's clear as day that he's looking to profit off his own daughter. The fact people are saying 'Everyone deserves a right to privacy but....' to try to justify a reason for Meghan's privacy to be invalidated just says it all.
Take a breath, step away from the computer and just look inward. The hatred towards this woman is not normal behaviour.
YOU take a breath and step away from the computer. If people disliking someone you like affects you that much and nothing is ever her fault, its best to avoid these threads.
Glenn.
12-02-2021, 04:42 PM
Oh believe me she has rabid fans - have you never heard of the 'Sugars'. They are known for being poisonous, giving out death threats and such. :rolleyes:
I think they are mostly teenagers though.
I’d say she has far more rabid haters tbh. This thread alone is quite telling at how desperate people are to put her down.
... They wrote: "#meghanmarkle fans are called 'sugars'.
"Don't be fooled by the sweet name, for they are extremely aggresive, and have even threatened Kate sublimely in the Daily Mail." (sic)
It's not sure exactly clear the name was first coined or why, but it is still in frequent use on the social media site in relation to the Duchess.
...all from this article, which is all I can find atm...
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/1258976/meghan-markle-news-latest-mothers-day-instagram
Jordan.
12-02-2021, 04:42 PM
When the haters are so obsessed they're the ones making up the stan names :skull:
...and I’m not a particular ‘fan’ either but it’s impossible not to see unfairness and imbalance in the media which has been startling in its extreme...
Glenn.
12-02-2021, 04:45 PM
...and I’m not a particular ‘fan’ either but it’s impossible not to see unfairness and imbalance in the media which has been startling in its extreme...
You’re not allowed to defend the unfairness though because it’s Meghan and she deserves it all!!!
Actually I just googled Sugars, they don't actually call themselves that according to the results I got, it's critics of Meghan who have labelled "fans" that? So it's not like GaGa's Little Monsters or Justin Bieber's Belibers etc? It's basically an insult towards anyone who defends Meghan by people who dislike her.
I didn't say they called themselves that, its what they are called. An awful bunch, by all accounts anyway. I'm not on social media or Twitter or wherever they dote on her. :hee:
thesheriff443
12-02-2021, 04:48 PM
When the haters are so obsessed they're the ones making up the stan names :skull:
There are no obsessed haters on this forum
...how can it be known of the existence of ‘Sugars’, though and that a ‘rabid fan’ would be an accurate descriptive to attach or that there are indeed Meghan fans who could be described as poisonous and giving out death threats or that they’re teenagers etc...unless it’s what’s been actually seen...
Jordan.
12-02-2021, 04:56 PM
There are no obsessed haters on this forum
Never said there was touchy.
...and I’m not a particular ‘fan’ either but it’s impossible not to see unfairness and imbalance in the media which has been startling in its extreme...
Diana, Fergie and Kate all got it bad too in the early days. Meghan gets it worse for a reason, she unwisely set herself against the media from the start.
If you don't know how it all played out, I'm sure you can find it with some research?
...how can it be known of the existence of ‘Sugars’, though and that a ‘rabid fan’ would be an accurate descriptive to attach or that there are indeed Meghan fans who could be described as poisonous and giving out death threats or that they’re teenagers etc...unless it’s what’s been actually seen...
I can't answer that - I go from what I have read in a few articles. There was one written by a royal reporter early last year who was furious that these 'Sugars' were the ones who started an malicious rumor that William was having an affair.
I assumed they had a fan forum or something....
...I don’t recall any reference to any other Royal female’s birth heritage and being the wrong side of the tracks or exotic DNA or their child inferred as a chimpanzee image....she’s very unique in some specifics of criticism she’s had of being all wrong for the Royal family...and it’s not that she’s the only one who has had criticism and scrutinise etc but hers have been more excessive by far, hence having been named as one of the most trolled people in the world at one point...Diana was definitely hounded and yeah, we all know that turned out...and why I completely understand Harry’s sense of protection always being very much in the forefront...’getting it bad’ for female members of the Royal family is no justification, of well...she’s not the only one...because no one should have to endure such extremes of criticisms, rather than just continuing and adding to...
...the internet and social media has changed our world also from Diana days to make them less compatible to modern times...which also would intensify more layers, I would think....but I’m not comparing as such because others having gone through negative stuff as well, just isn’t a justification or relevant at all....
AnnieK
12-02-2021, 05:20 PM
Diana, Fergie and Kate all got it bad too in the early days. Meghan gets it worse for a reason, she unwisely set herself against the media from the start.
If you don't know how it all played out, I'm sure you can find it with some research?
I honestly believe that Meghan gets it worse because its Harry she's married to. There are a lot of people, my age and a little older who still seem to see Harry as that little boy behind his mum's funeral carriage. They seem to think he needs protecting from this horrid American woman who has changed him from that little boy/ cheeky teenager/ carefree guy he was into an under the thumb brow beaten shadow of himself. Not that he is now mid 30s, a husband and father who has grown into the man he wants to be :shrug:
Fergie got abuse worse than Diana did..(Diana got a lot of attention, mainly positive as everyone loved her) but back then the abuse wasn't as far reaching as the internet wasn't that big a thing.
I truly pity anyone in the public eye now....there will always be those who want to put them down. I find it so sad, I really do.
I can't answer that - I go from what I have read in a few articles. There was one written by a royal reporter early last year who was furious that these 'Sugars' were the ones who started an malicious rumor that William was having an affair.
I assumed they had a fan forum or something....
...but you say Oh believe me she has rabid fans - have you never heard of the 'Sugars'....because you choose to believe something you’ve read but have no evidence of, so is essentially hearsay... can you not see the dangers of misinformation in believe hearsay and especially as everyone tends to come from a place of bias anyway...
...but you say Oh believe me she has rabid fans - have you never heard of the 'Sugars'....because you choose to believe something you’ve read but have no evidence of, so is essentially hearsay... an you not see the dangers of misinformation in believe hearsay and especially as everyone tends to come from a place of bias anyway...
Yes, I believe she has rabid fans, those who call people haters and toxic and racist and sexist and all sorts just because they don't like her for their own given reasons without putting other posters down....so I have evidence that she has rabid fans, it is not hearsay IMO, unless you condone slurs like that and see them as normal for not agreeing with someone.
As for the 'Sugars' I assumed they had some sort of fan forum, it appears not?
Yes, I believe she has rabid fans, those who call people haters and toxic and racist and sexist and all sorts just because they don't like her for their own given reasons without putting other posters down....so I have evidence that she has rabid fans, it is not hearsay IMO, unless you condone slurs like that and see them as normal for not agreeing with someone.
As for the 'Sugars' I assumed they had some sort of fan forum, it appears not?
...(...from what I can see atm...)...it’s a label that was applied by
some detractors...and I personally would guess that it’s only a very few detractors and not a label that’s widely attached, but I obviously don’t know that...I guess it’s possible to create a type of #sugar/thing quite easily but it won’t become widespread and grow necessarily, if it’s just self created by a few...it doesn’t seem to have grown or ‘become a thing’ and I can see no evidence of it existing and therefore that would follow that there would be no evidence of any ‘extreme or hateful’ behaviour attached to it, like death threats...that’s not to say that any individual isn’t capable of a death threat if their character is extreme, but there is no evidence of it being some kind of widespread ‘typical group behaviour’...but there is evidence of her having haters and lots of them if she has ever been a ‘most trolled person’....I mean that would be unlikely to be one without the other, those things do have a definite attachment...I honestly don’t know what your definition of what a ‘rabid fan’ would be ...to feel a sense of support for someone who has experienced tabloid media bullying and media bias etc and I include social media in that media...that would really cover ‘rabid’ ...I can only think if she’s experiencing stalking behaviour from some fans....but I don’t recall that’s ever been experienced by her, maybe I missed some...whereas as criticism/hostility/negativity etc when very consistent and persistent, would be more accurate ...although, I don’t personally think ‘rabid’ is a term I would personally attach to her many detractors...I don’t think that any or whatever prejudice is a coverall behaviour because I don’t think there is a coverall as such...but for some people, I do feel their a factor...
Yes, I believe she has rabid fans, those who call people haters and toxic and racist and sexist and all sorts just because they don't like her for their own given reasons without putting other posters down....so I have evidence that she has rabid fans, it is not hearsay IMO, unless you condone slurs like that and see them as normal for not agreeing with someone.
As for the 'Sugars' I assumed they had some sort of fan forum, it appears not?
...for the pro Meghan or pro her fans stuff, you would assume truth in that as well without question ...oh believe me they are lovely etc...I don’t even need to see what I think because people have said...
...I don’t recall any reference to any other Royal female’s birth heritage and being the wrong side of the tracks or exotic DNA or their child inferred as a chimpanzee image....she’s very unique in some specifics of criticism she’s had of being all wrong for the Royal family...and it’s not that she’s the only one who has had criticism and scrutinise etc but hers have been more excessive by far, hence having been named as one of the most trolled people in the world at one point...Diana was definitely hounded and yeah, we all know that turned out...and why I completely understand Harry’s sense of protection always being very much in the forefront...’getting it bad’ for female members of the Royal family is no justification, of well...she’s not the only one...because no one should have to endure such extremes of criticisms, rather than just continuing and adding to...
...the internet and social media has changed our world also from Diana days to make them less compatible to modern times...which also would intensify more layers, I would think....but I’m not comparing as such because others having gone through negative stuff as well, just isn’t a justification or relevant at all....
Kate's family were vilified and endured all kinds of slurs for coming from the wrong side of the tracks, a commoner marrying into the royal family at a high level for the first time etc!
Shock horror! Her mother has been an air hostess and her mothers father (or grandfather?) a coal miner. Kate and her family conducted themselves with the dignity and grace that came naturally, whatever their background. They didn't set themselves up as victims, poor us, nobody is asking us if we are okay!
There were a few public racial slurs against Meghan which I absolutely think were detestable, but to imply, as she did, that the British were intrinsically racist as a result is categorically untrue. She pitted herself against the media in more ways than one, and the monster in the media retaliated. The world today is no la la land, it's real and brutal for everyone. She's doing fine in her mansion with her servants and nannies and she looks as if she's thriving on the drama, it vitalizes her imo. No need to worry about her or defend her at every turn, worry about those much less fortunate. :hee:
I honestly don’t know what your definition of what a ‘rabid fan’ would be ...
I already explained that - my definition of 'rabid' as opposed to just 'fan' is -
"those who call people haters and toxic and racist and sexist and all sorts just because they don't like her for their own given reasons without putting other posters down".
I can't be clearer than that. :shrug:
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Jordan.
12-02-2021, 06:39 PM
I already explained that - my definition of 'rabid' as opposed to just 'fan' is -
"those who call people haters and toxic and racist and sexist and all sorts just because they don't like her for their own given reasons without putting other posters down".
I can't be clearer than that. :shrug:
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What would you call someone who labels others as "sugars" rabid critics? :omgno:
What would you call someone who labels others as "sugars" rabid critics? :omgno:
Are you classing the term 'sugars' as derogatory a term as racist and sexist being thrown around on this forum, not elsewhere, with no evidence whatsoever?
Kate's family were vilified and endured all kinds of slurs for coming from the wrong side of the tracks, a commoner marrying into the royal family at a high level for the first time etc!
Shock horror! Her mother has been an air hostess and her mothers father a coal miner. Kate and her family conducted themselves with the dignity and grace that came naturally, whatever their background. They didn't set themselves up as victims, poor us, nobody is asking us if we are okay!
There were a few public racial slurs against Meghan which I absolutely think were detestable, but to imply, as she did, that the British were intrinsically racist as a result is categorically untrue. She pitted herself against the media in more ways than one, and the monster in the media retaliated. The world today is no la la land, it's real and brutal for everyone. She's doing fine in her mansion with her servants and nannies and she looks as if she's thriving on the drama, it vitalizes her imo. No need to worry about her or defend her at every turn, worry about those much less fortunate. :hee:
...whatever criticisms of Kate or her family are more a ‘were’, though...they’re not apparent in any large way now nor have been for some time, to whatever degree they may have been...so her media treatment has had much more of a balance of being very much favoured by the media as well...and as her marriage progressed, her media appreciation grew as well, as it did when she became a parent...and we’ve compared the extreme differences in like for like headlines and articles...when Kate was pregnant/when Meghan was pregnant etc..Meghan’s criticism began when it was known that she would become a Royal and her criticism has been consistent and persistent and relentless, whether she be here, whether she be there, whether she be any old where...she didn’t set herself up to be a victim, she’s become a media victim and a victim of negativity in a very bullying way...and then she’s criticised for being that victim as well...she really can’t win, we don’t want to hear your moaning, young lady...you’re a Royal now, don’t you know and all of those Royals before you survived....there really isn’t one size fits all for coping with these things and she made it obvious at times that she struggled and was losing her coping ...but the media kept on and on as they still try to....
...as for prejudice, there has been racial prejudice and it isn’t for me to determine how much has been felt by her...but it’s something that Harry has spoken about as well, as never quite realising the extent of racial prejudice until he ‘experienced it through Meghan’ and it being aimed at her...prejudice doesn’t always scream and shout as it enters, it can be quite quiet and subtle and undercurrents but would still be very felt...it’s something that can’t be minimised by those having experienced it...
....I’m not really sure what would determine ‘fortunate’ either, because she’s as capable as any of us of any emotion that we would feel and she’s also as emotionally vulnerable as anyone else as well...we don’t have to direct ‘worry’ and concern and support etc in one single direction, it’s very much a multi tasking enabled thing...
...anyways, I really don’t want to go down any ‘comparison’ roads with other Royal wives or their families...because they’re not necessary to or relevant to the person/person’s behaviour being discussed to explain the extreme negative attention given to her by the media/social media ....
Jordan.
12-02-2021, 06:53 PM
Are you classing the term 'sugars' as derogatory a term as racist and sexist being thrown around on this forum, not elsewhere, with no evidence whatsoever?
Hard to say since no one apart from yourself seems to have any idea what the term is supposed to mean, you brought it to the forum.
I already explained that - my definition of 'rabid' as opposed to just 'fan' is -
"those who call people haters and toxic and racist and sexist and all sorts just because they don't like her for their own given reasons without putting other posters down".
I can't be clearer than that. :shrug:
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...so inferring that forum members are rabid fans/ defining some as that, which would be putting them down...
...for the pro Meghan or pro her fans stuff, you would assume truth in that as well without question ...oh believe me they are lovely etc...I don’t even need to see what I think because people have said...
As I have said in a post to Jordan above, I have SEEN, on this forum, people I consider as rabid fans from the slurs they throw around.
Do you really believe Ammi, that I am racist and sexist? Because you have never defended ME. I think you know I hate unfairness and people ganging up on others, and if I don't like Meghan, I have very good reasons for it. If you like her, fine, if others like her, fine. Explain why, that's what debate is about.
If I or others don't and make the effort to give our reasons, that should be respected. End of.
...so inferring that forum members are rabid fans/ defining some as that, which would be putting them down...
Yes, some seem to be. But God forbid I should put a forum member down who is putting me down. Just take the slurs and shut up, eh?
....Meghan’s criticism began when it was known that she would become a Royal .
No, it absolutely did not.
The majority of the public were delighted with her, the media were delighted with her, I was delighted with her for quite some time after the marriage. :nono:
As I have said in a post to Jordan above, I have SEEN, on this forum, people I consider as rabid fans from the slurs they throw around.
Do you really believe Ammi, that I am racist and sexist? Because you have never defended ME. I think you know I hate unfairness and people ganging up on others, and if I don't like Meghan, I have very good reasons for it. If you like her, fine, if others like her, fine. Explain why, that's what debate is about.
If I or others don't and make the effort to give our reasons, that should be respected. End of.
...but then you’re suggesting or inferring that if others are seeing something differently that they’re unjust and incorrect in some way to apply any labels or descriptives but you have SEEN rabid by your own self definition of what you feel rabid is...
...anyways, this is feeling too personal in terms of members and I don’t think anyone has any higher ground, anyway...I’ve said that before in Meghan threads, they start to become just circles that achieve no progressing at all and I obviously include myself in that...I personally think that the closing of these threads so regularly in comparison to most other topics is an indication of them offering very little in new discussions....and so far as I’ve seen, there are many, many reasons already stated over many threads as why Meghan has support in her marriage and her life from some but just because something is written, doesn’t mean that it’s absorbed by all...
Tom4784
12-02-2021, 10:06 PM
Of course he can....and what a nice gesture it was of the two of them...thing is it wasnt just the two of them...he invited a film crew to record it and photographers....a deliberate swipe at the Monarchy.
So a veteran can pay respects.... just as long as it isn't Harry otherwise it's a plea for media coverage.
Kinda like how everyone is entitled to privacy.... Just as long as it's not Meghan because she's apparently the route of all evil in the world.
rusticgal
12-02-2021, 10:52 PM
So a veteran can pay respects.... just as long as it isn't Harry otherwise it's a plea for media coverage.
Kinda like how everyone is entitled to privacy.... Just as long as it's not Meghan because she's apparently the route of all evil in the world.
Anyone can pay their respects....Harry and Meghan are the ones who have the desire for privacy but drag along the media...when it suits them. Harry was upset he wasn’t invited to the Remembrance ceremony as part of the Royal family...the family he opted to leave for a more private life :shrug:....but he and Meghan chose to make a public display of them showing their respects so that it was plastered all over the media....it was deliberate and if you can’t see it it’s because you choose not to.
Marsh.
12-02-2021, 11:08 PM
No, he didn't leave the family. He left his job as a working Royal.
The constant twisting of everything is absolutely laughable. They want more privacy than what is afforded to working Royals and so they can't appear in public or in front of a camera ever again. He moves abroad (as many people do) and suddenly it means he doesn't want to be a part of his family. :rolleyes:
Meanwhile, in the real world....
joeysteele
12-02-2021, 11:33 PM
No, he didn't leave the family. He left his job as a working Royal.
The constant twisting of everything is absolutely laughable. They want more privacy than what is afforded to working Royals and so they can't appear in public or in front of a camera ever again. He moves abroad (as many people do) and suddenly it means he doesn't want to be a part of his family. :rolleyes:
Meanwhile, in the real world....
A pretty appropriate summing up there Marsh.
I agree totally.
Your first 2 lines perfectly describe their situation too.
Anyone can pay their respects....Harry and Meghan are the ones who have the desire for privacy but drag along the media...when it suits them. Harry was upset he wasn’t invited to the Remembrance ceremony as part of the Royal family...the family he opted to leave for a more private life :shrug:....but he and Meghan chose to make a public display of them showing their respects so that it was plastered all over the media....it was deliberate and if you can’t see it it’s because you choose not to.
Agreed. It was blatantly deliberate imo.
It's absolutely laughable how some choose to forget that they said they were leaving the UK for 'privacy' - to go and live in the paparazzi capital of the world. They now put themselves out there every other day doing their endless zoom calls which are all talk and no action or causing some drama or other for attention. Privacy my ass! That would mean quietly getting jobs and actually working.
rusticgal
13-02-2021, 12:31 AM
Agreed. It was blatantly deliberate imo.
It's absolutely laughable how some choose to forget that they said they were leaving the UK for 'privacy' - to go and live in the paparazzi capital of the world. They now put themselves out there every other day doing their endless zoom calls which are all talk and no action or causing some drama or other for attention. Privacy my ass! That would mean quietly getting jobs and actually working.
Absolutely.....and meanwhile in the real world :joker:
Mystic Mock
13-02-2021, 10:48 AM
Its not OTT though....its just opinion.
There is no toxic abuse or hatred....people really need to get a grip with the dramatics...its laughable.
...and by the way I only used the toxic word as a response to the post..
I'm not meaning to have a go at you Rusticgal, but if so many people that don't dislike Meghan are seeing the Meghan detractors as "OTT" and "toxic" that there might be a case of it being true as so many people can't be getting it wrong?
In your defence I haven't noticed you say anything particularly bad about Meghan, but I have definitely seen unhealthy amount of hatred towards Meghan on the Forum and on Social Media.
Mystic Mock
13-02-2021, 10:52 AM
...and this...
https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/9-5e1dc22a03b07__700.jpg
:joker:
Mystic Mock
13-02-2021, 11:04 AM
Diana, Fergie and Kate all got it bad too in the early days. Meghan gets it worse for a reason, she unwisely set herself against the media from the start.
If you don't know how it all played out, I'm sure you can find it with some research?
Have you not noticed a pattern that it's all of the women who get married into the family that the Media targets?
I'm not meaning to have a go at you Rusticgal, but if so many people that don't dislike Meghan are seeing the Meghan detractors as "OTT" and "toxic" that there might be a case of it being true as so many people can't be getting it wrong?
In your defence I haven't noticed you say anything particularly bad about Meghan, but I have definitely seen unhealthy amount of hatred towards Meghan on the Forum and on Social Media.
Hi Mock... I'm sure that is true of social media, being the monster it is nowadays, but hatred on this forum - I don't agree. Unless you consider opinions from those who don't like her or some of her actions taking part in a discussion as hatred?
The only hatred I perceive is from a few members towards the members who don't like her.
Have you not noticed a pattern that it's all of the women who get married into the family that the Media targets?
Yes, you are right, the media, especially the tabloids have always delighted in comparing the royal women.
LukeB
13-02-2021, 11:16 AM
Have you not noticed a pattern that it's all of the women who get married into the family that the Media targets?
And Meghan gets the most because you know racism
Mystic Mock
13-02-2021, 11:18 AM
Hi Mock... I'm sure that is true of social media, being the monster it is nowadays, but hatred on this forum - I don't agree. Unless you consider opinions from those who don't like her or some of her actions taking part in a discussion as hatred?
The only hatred I perceive is from a few members towards the members who don't like her.
Hello Jet.:)
For me personally I take no issue with people disliking Meghan, but when people pull her up for saying "my Husband & I" and this particular case where I can't help but feel that some people are taking the dislike a little too far for my tastes.
I hate David Cameron for what his done to this country, but I would support him if he had a case like this thread because I support him having his privacy, and I don't like thinking about him so much that I wind myself up into a frenzy.
And on this whole Sugars debate, obviously they need to calm down as well if they're giving death threats to Kate as again it's not healthy behaviour.
AnnieK
13-02-2021, 11:19 AM
Hi Mock... I'm sure that is true of social media, being the monster it is nowadays, but hatred on this forum - I don't agree. Unless you consider opinions from those who don't like her or some of her actions taking part in a discussion as hatred?
The only hatred I perceive is from a few members towards the members who don't like her.
Can you not see though then that hatred, like beauty is possibly in the eye of the beholder then? I don't see hate on either side, as I'm quite indifferent to the whole meghan debate. Those who like her see hate from those who don't and vice versa?
Words like toxic and bullying are thrown around in these debates and I rarely see either
rusticgal
13-02-2021, 11:35 AM
I'm not meaning to have a go at you Rusticgal, but if so many people that don't dislike Meghan are seeing the Meghan detractors as "OTT" and "toxic" that there might be a case of it being true as so many people can't be getting it wrong?
In your defence I haven't noticed you say anything particularly bad about Meghan, but I have definitely seen unhealthy amount of hatred towards Meghan on the Forum and on Social Media.
I dont see you as having a go Mystic....and I totally agree that there is a lot of toxic stuff out there regarding Meghan...there is no toxicity or hatred on this forum...those of us that dislike her articulate their debate...and Jet gets hounded and abused by the very people that think Meghan does, when all he does is offer decent debate.
I liked Meghan when she came on the scene...she is an attractive woman and she had some depth. However I think she went about things the wrong way and consequently her popularity went downhill fast. Personally I went right off her when she made that documentry in SA....all her self pity whilst surrounding herself with poverty, rape and hostility.
She doesnt deserve some of the hatred she gets but like anyone else if you put yourself out there then you are going to have people that like you and dont like you.
Hello Jet.:)
For me personally I take no issue with people disliking Meghan, but when people pull her up for saying "my Husband & I" and this particular case where I can't help but feel that some people are taking the dislike a little too far for my tastes.
I hate David Cameron for what his done to this country, but I would support him if he had a case like this thread because I support him having his privacy, and I don't like thinking about him so much that I wind myself up into a frenzy.
And on this whole Sugars debate, obviously they need to calm down as well if they're giving death threats to Kate as again it's not healthy behaviour.
Yes, that is just petty and I don't think I've seen anything like that on this forum? The petty things the tabloids print, like the perfume at the Abbey stuff, I pay no heed to.
My dislike of her comes from actions which have been well documented and verified by respected long time royal commentators, biographers and historians, not from tabloids, though I have been mocked and jeered at for having a great interest in Royalty. If they turn out to be all lies, which I doubt, I'll say I was wrong.
Meghan has been disrespectful, manipulative, sly, has told many outright lies and has courted trouble to pitch family member against family member. She has ditched so many people when they outlive their usefulness to them too - old time friends of hers who she grew up with and were close to from childhood until she got some fame in Suits speak of their sadness and confusion....and how she is ashamed of her families on both her fathers and mothers sides now and wanted nothing to do with them once she got a bit of fame. Apart from her mother.
She preaches compassion and love and family unity!!!!but has not displayed one iota of it towards anyone that can be seen.
Having an interest in the royals, I find her and Harry's path endlessly interesting.....where will it lead ....
Cherie
13-02-2021, 11:54 AM
I dont see you as having a go Mystic....and I totally agree that there is a lot of toxic stuff out there regarding Meghan...there is no toxicity or hatred on this forum...those of us that dislike her articulate their debate...and Jet gets hounded and abused by the very people that think Meghan does, when all he does is offer decent debate.
I liked Meghan when she came on the scene...she is an attractive woman and she had some depth. However I think she went about things the wrong way and consequently her popularity went downhill fast. Personally I went right off her when she made that documentry in SA....all her self pity whilst surrounding herself with poverty, rape and hostility.
She doesnt deserve some of the hatred she gets but like anyone else if you put yourself out there then you are going to have people that like you and dont like you.
spot on Rusti
I would like to ask anyone who watched that documentary and approved of them using it to have a whinge about their lives right after a segment on females having to take self defence classes in case they got raped to say so?
of all the platforms they could have used to say 'no one asks if I am okay'? that was not it
and really...for those who take the time to defend and support her so adamantly, what is it about her you love, or like? Instead of being cross with those who don't like her (those that do), why not post positive articles about her, not just factual stuff about what Harry and her are doing, but stuff that will counter the conclusions of those who dislike her? I can't really find anything myself, but if you like her enough, surely you could take the time to do this...
Black Dagger
13-02-2021, 12:17 PM
and really...for those who take the time to defend and support her so adamantly, what is it about her you love, or like? Instead of being cross with those who don't like her (those that do), why not post positive articles about her, not just factual stuff about what Harry and her are doing, but stuff that will counter the conclusions of those who dislike her? I can't really find anything myself, but if you like her enough, surely you could take the time to do this...
We just like somebody who is grounded, fights for what she believes in and is true to herself. But you'll counteract that yourself with reasons why she's such a nasty villainous woman who has destroyed the royal family, so people just can't be bothered xx
LukeB
13-02-2021, 12:18 PM
and really...for those who take the time to defend and support her so adamantly, what is it about her you love, or like? Instead of being cross with those who don't like her (those that do), why not post positive articles about her, not just factual stuff about what Harry and her are doing, but stuff that will counter the conclusions of those who dislike her? I can't really find anything myself, but if you like her enough, surely you could take the time to do this...
I would think this was a positive thread that turned negative thanks to you and others and I’m 100% sure if any more positive Meghan threads were made it will turn negative by the same people. Some people don’t even care about the ****ty royals they are just bored and fed up of all the OTT hate over stupid stuff.
Marsh.
13-02-2021, 12:26 PM
I would think this was a positive thread that turned negative thanks to you and I’m 100% sure if any more positive Meghan threads were made it will turn negative by the same people. Some people don’t even care about the ****ty royals they are just bored and fed up of all the OTT hate over stupid stuff.
:clap1:
joeysteele
13-02-2021, 12:35 PM
We just like somebody who is grounded, fights for what she believes in and is true to herself. But you'll counteract that yourself with reasons why she's such a nasty villainous woman who has destroyed the royal family, so people just can't be bothered xx
You are absolutely right there.
I certainly for one cannot be bothered.
I neither like or dislike Meghan however, I see no real wrong about her.
Yet almost everything she says and does is scrutinised negatively by those less favourable to her shall we say.
So it's a going around in circles with hardly any fair or reasoned debate whatsoever really.
This thread was initially about her winning a case against a really stinking gutter trash tabloid.
I celebrate that totally.
However the same negativity towards her has surfaced again, rather than the victory of the case itself she was awarded.
She's been vindicated in law for her actions.
I applaud she did it, yes she has the means to, unlike others, however she did.
I've obviously read through this thread, most of the time shaking my head.
I actually agree with every word just about you've said.
Particularly the, cannot be bothered line.
So true..
This is my third post on this thread possibly I think.
It will be my last likely too.
I'm just pleased she won against that vile trash that gets called a news....paper.
So all I'll end with is, well done to her for taking the publication on.
I hope she does anytime any gutter trash publication tries this in the future too.
Cherie
13-02-2021, 01:01 PM
spot on Rusti
I would like to ask anyone who watched that documentary and approved of them using it to have a whinge about their lives right after a segment on females having to take self defence classes in case they got raped to say so?
of all the platforms they could have used to say 'no one asks if I am okay'? that was not it
.
still waiting
AnnieK
13-02-2021, 01:31 PM
Well that just about sums it up..."no but I doubt it was bad"....
Well let me tell you just like Cherie has explained...Meghan and Harry highlighted the Poverty and Rape and hostility aimed at young girls...admirable. Then the second part of the Documentary...was all about Meghan and Harry and the hardship they faced....Poor Meghan no one asked her 'how she was?..having married and had a young baby in a short space of time...and Harry with the fall out with William...
1....they chose to marry and have a child in a short space of time..
2....She has friends and her mother...she has wealth and luxury..
3....The biggest and most sickening thing of all is that she played the pity
card in the backyard of people who suffer...truly suffer.
Instead of coming on here and accusing people of hate....maybe you should have a wider knowledge of the subject matter and a better understanding of why people dislike her.
You see, I saw it differently and remember commenting at the time my views on it.
I don't believe it was that wrong what she did. She was asked how she was and said she was struggling. Despite the fame, fortune etc Meghan was still battling demons. Demons that many millions of women face daily. How many women who have suffered PND felt like they were totally alone, they should be happy with that perfect baby but instead felt miserable. Meghan could have helped a woman here know that its ok to feel like that if someone with all the privilege she has still feels low.
We all know atrocities happen in the world and are happening right now. Children are starving, we watch adverts whilst eating our dinner, should we stop eating or talking about food? No. Harry and Meghan highlighted the plight of those women but the whole discussion point that people have is yeah but she spoke about herself for a 15 minute segment. So?
Ok I'm only posting this once as the threads already been cleaned twice.
Stop using this thread to bait, insult and discuss other members.
No need for any replies to this warning.
Keep on topic from now on.
LukeB
13-02-2021, 01:40 PM
You see, I saw it differently and remember commenting at the time my views on it.
I don't believe it was that wrong what she did. She was asked how she was and said she was struggling. Despite the fame, fortune etc Meghan was still battling demons. Demons that many millions of women face daily. How many women who have suffered PND felt like they were totally alone, they should be happy with that perfect baby but instead felt miserable. Meghan could have helped a woman here know that its ok to feel like that if someone with all the privilege she has still feels low.
We all know atrocities happen in the world and are happening right now. Children are starving, we watch adverts whilst eating our dinner, should we stop eating or talking about food? No. Harry and Meghan highlighted the plight of those women but the whole discussion point that people have is yeah but she spoke about herself for a 15 minute segment. So?
Oh she was asked? That was left out whenever people speak about that documentary to make her look bad :laugh:
100% agree with you. I see her opening up admirable and potentially get others to open up too because you know keeping it in isn't healthy or it gets people to ask all their family and friends how they are.
You see, I saw it differently and remember commenting at the time my views on it.
I don't believe it was that wrong what she did. She was asked how she was and said she was struggling. Despite the fame, fortune etc Meghan was still battling demons. Demons that many millions of women face daily. How many women who have suffered PND felt like they were totally alone, they should be happy with that perfect baby but instead felt miserable. Meghan could have helped a woman here know that its ok to feel like that if someone with all the privilege she has still feels low.
We all know atrocities happen in the world and are happening right now. Children are starving, we watch adverts whilst eating our dinner, should we stop eating or talking about food? No. Harry and Meghan highlighted the plight of those women but the whole discussion point that people have is yeah but she spoke about herself for a 15 minute segment. So?
She wasn’t just ‘asked’ though Annie, the segment was planned in advance with Tom Bradby, Harry’s old friend. Tom said so himself. Meghan hadn’t just seen these awful things on a TV screen, which we are somewhat desensitised to, she saw them in real life technicolour.
By all means share your struggles to help others, but NOT in that setting at the end of a successful tour that they were getting acclaim for. It led to widespread condemnation and took away from the issues they were meant to highlight - the awful plight of the African girls - NOT Meghan’s issues. It was thoughtless and inappropriate, surely you can see why many were sickened by that? Meghan (and Harry’s) lack of self - awareness is an issue that has been ongoing.
rusticgal
13-02-2021, 02:08 PM
Oh she was asked? That was left out whenever people speak about that documentary to make her look bad :laugh:
100% agree with you. I see her opening up admirable and potentially get others to open up too because you know keeping it in isn't healthy or it gets people to ask all their family and friends how they are.
It was a pre planned question...the intentions and opportunity was there to take advantage of.
If they were natural humanitarians....they should have declined any opportunity to talk about themselves and focused on what the Documentary was supposed to be focused on.
LukeB
13-02-2021, 02:10 PM
It was a pre planned question...the intentions and opportunity was there to take advantage of.
If they were natural humanitarians....they should have declined any opportunity to talk about themselves and focused on what the Documentary was supposed to be focused on.
People only believe it was pre-planned because they want to and because they hate Meghan :shrug:
Jordan.
13-02-2021, 02:12 PM
It was a pre planned question...the intentions and opportunity was there to take advantage of.
If they were natural humanitarians....they should have declined any opportunity to talk about themselves and focused on what the Documentary was supposed to be focused on.
On set were you?
Tom4784
13-02-2021, 02:16 PM
Anyone can pay their respects....Harry and Meghan are the ones who have the desire for privacy but drag along the media...when it suits them. Harry was upset he wasn’t invited to the Remembrance ceremony as part of the Royal family...the family he opted to leave for a more private life :shrug:....but he and Meghan chose to make a public display of them showing their respects so that it was plastered all over the media....it was deliberate and if you can’t see it it’s because you choose not to.
They will never get privacy, but they can try to control when the media comes into their life. If it was Kate and William, you'd be praising them for doing so.
Like Marsh said, Harry left the job behind, not his family so you're completely wrong there. If you have to twist things to make your agenda make sense then that's usually a big sign that you're in the wrong, keep that in mind.
LukeB
13-02-2021, 02:16 PM
On set were you?
It's because journalist Tom Bradby who is an old friend of Harrys said so :laugh: it's the only proof they have and I guess they still don't know people can tell a few lies about others.
It's because journalist Tom Bradby who is an old friend of Harrys said so :laugh: it's the only proof they have and I guess they still don't know people can tell a few lies about others.
Yes, he did say so when asked. Sorry.
It was a documentary - they are planned and edited, they aren't LIVE.
Jordan.
13-02-2021, 02:21 PM
It's because journalist Tom Bradby who is an old friend of Harrys said so :laugh: it's the only proof they have and I guess they still don't know people can tell a few lies about others.
Oh should have known there always seems to be an "old / close friend" that spills the irrefutable proof. At least it wasn't Lizzie Cundy in this case.
Tom4784
13-02-2021, 02:30 PM
People who spend their lives hating on these two celebrities have to rely on idle gossip to do so, it's always been the case.
Cherie
13-02-2021, 02:32 PM
It was a pre planned question...the intentions and opportunity was there to take advantage of.
If they were natural humanitarians....they should have declined any opportunity to talk about themselves and focused on what the Documentary was supposed to be focused on.
Indeed, I think that is when alot of people turned against them, these were the same people who watched their engagement announcement, their wedding, and were so happy for them both
In all honesty they were so popular at the point of the SA documentary I think they thought it would endear them even more, and if they had chosen a more appropriate time it probably would have, but it backfired massively and alot of us changed our views
LukeB
13-02-2021, 02:34 PM
Oh should have known there always seems to be an "old / close friend" that spills the irrefutable proof. At least it wasn't Lizzie Cundy in this case.
:joker:
People who spend their lives hating on these two celebrities have to rely on idle gossip to do so, it's always been the case.
.
rusticgal
13-02-2021, 02:42 PM
People only believe it was pre-planned because they want to and because they hate Meghan :shrug:
OMG...do you seriously believe a Royal couple would enter into a Documentry and be questioned by a journalist about their private life unaware of what they would be asked??
rusticgal
13-02-2021, 02:45 PM
Indeed, I think that is when alot of people turned against them, these were the same people who watched their engagement announcement, their wedding, and were so happy for them both
In all honesty they were so popular at the point of the SA documentary I think they thought it would endear them even more, and if they had chosen a more appropriate time it probably would have, but it backfired massively and alot of us changed our views
I think it was the turning point for many Cherie...it was in my case. The amount of people that came out for their wedding proved just how popular they were.
Crimson Dynamo
13-02-2021, 02:57 PM
Meghan Markle 'putting toe in water' and 'following path' into US politics
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's private meeting with California Governor Gavin Newsom
has sparked speculation that the Duchess of Sussex could one day become a high-profile
candidate in US politics
Mike Trujillo, a prominent Democratic strategist, told the Times that the Sussexes’ mental health campaigning could provide a launchpad into politics.
Mr Trujillo said the duchess was following a "well-worn path", adopted by Mr
Schwarzenegger ahead of his foray into politics, by meeting with Mr Newsom,
California's current governor.
However, one unnamed source told the Times that they don't think Meghan holds any
political ambitions at the moment.
The source added: "But her ego knows no bounds, so maybe she is keeping the door
open. But she cannot right now, because they are very focused on making money.
Running for public office and making a fortune don't go together."
:skull:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/meghan-markle-putting-toe-water-23494209
Oh should have known there always seems to be an "old / close friend" that spills the irrefutable proof. At least it wasn't Lizzie Cundy in this case.
He is an old friend. Try Google.
Marsh.
13-02-2021, 03:00 PM
Oh should have known there always seems to be an "old / close friend" that spills the irrefutable proof. At least it wasn't Lizzie Cundy in this case.
:joker:
Jordan.
13-02-2021, 03:01 PM
He is an old friend. Try Google.
Never said he wasn't? Doesn't mean what he says should be immediately taken as gospel truth. I think people are more than aware at this point there is a market of people who will lap up any and all criticism of Harry and Meghan and that can be very profitable for others.
Tom4784
13-02-2021, 03:02 PM
Meghan Markle 'putting toe in water' and 'following path' into US politics
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's private meeting with California Governor Gavin Newsom
has sparked speculation that the Duchess of Sussex could one day become a high-profile
candidate in US politics
Mike Trujillo, a prominent Democratic strategist, told the Times that the Sussexes’ mental health campaigning could provide a launchpad into politics.
Mr Trujillo said the duchess was following a "well-worn path", adopted by Mr
Schwarzenegger ahead of his foray into politics, by meeting with Mr Newsom,
California's current governor.
However, one unnamed source told the Times that they don't think Meghan holds any
political ambitions at the moment.
The source added: "But her ego knows no bounds, so maybe she is keeping the door
open. But she cannot right now, because they are very focused on making money.
Running for public office and making a fortune don't go together."
:skull:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/meghan-markle-putting-toe-water-23494209
An article based, not on facts, but on speculation. Piss poor journalism.
Tom4784
13-02-2021, 03:04 PM
The fact that the justification for hating this woman only ever comes from hearsay says it all, really.
Crimson Dynamo
13-02-2021, 03:04 PM
Again and again its all about her out of control ego
The Express have also reported on this
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1397327/meghan-markle-news-politics-run-for-office-US-senate-prince-harry-California-royal-family
Marsh.
13-02-2021, 03:06 PM
"Meghan going into politics"
"Source claims she has no interest in politics"
"She has an ego so she probably maybe could might do it in the future"
:laugh2:
Cherie
13-02-2021, 03:13 PM
Meghan Markle 'putting toe in water' and 'following path' into US politics
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's private meeting with California Governor Gavin Newsom
has sparked speculation that the Duchess of Sussex could one day become a high-profile
candidate in US politics
Mike Trujillo, a prominent Democratic strategist, told the Times that the Sussexes’ mental health campaigning could provide a launchpad into politics.
Mr Trujillo said the duchess was following a "well-worn path", adopted by Mr
Schwarzenegger ahead of his foray into politics, by meeting with Mr Newsom,
California's current governor.
However, one unnamed source told the Times that they don't think Meghan holds any
political ambitions at the moment.
The source added: "But her ego knows no bounds, so maybe she is keeping the door
open. But she cannot right now, because they are very focused on making money.
Running for public office and making a fortune don't go together."
:skull:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/meghan-markle-putting-toe-water-23494209
Wouldn't be surprised at all
Crimson Dynamo
13-02-2021, 03:14 PM
Wouldn't be surprised at all
Nor I
Fame and power mad
chilling
Cherie
13-02-2021, 03:15 PM
I think it was the turning point for many Cherie...it was in my case. The amount of people that came out for their wedding proved just how popular they were.
It's a must watch if you want to be able to give a balanced view imo
Cherie
13-02-2021, 03:15 PM
Nor I
Fame and power mad
chilling
I have goosebumps
The fact that the justification for hating this woman only ever comes from hearsay says it all, really.
It's more distrust than hate for me.
Tom4784
13-02-2021, 03:21 PM
'Meghan has no plans of going into politics but that doesn't make for good clickbait so here's a bunch of baseless speculation based on nothing so half the country can work themselves into a tizzy.'
'OMG! SHE'S MAD WITH POWER!?'
I do wonder how so many adults in this country have survived so long when they are so gullible and easily led.
Cherie
13-02-2021, 03:22 PM
It's more distrust than hate for me.
Are you sure you know your own mind though?
Why not let me tell you what you are really thinking :think:
Oh should have known there always seems to be an "old / close friend" that spills the irrefutable proof. At least it wasn't Lizzie Cundy in this case.
Lizzie Cundy says Meghan befriended her and asked her if she knew any rich, famous Englishmen that she could date. She was mad keen to get well known in England. One of the men Lizzie spoke of (Matt Cardle) said they were in touch with Meghan but didn't take it any further. Then when she was set up with Harry Lizzie said Meghan blanked her completely.
I can't see any reason why she would make this up out of the blue. Meghan could sue....:hee:
I have goosebumps
:laugh:
Jordan.
13-02-2021, 03:26 PM
Lizzie Cundy says Meghan befriended her and asked her if she knew any rich, famous Englishmen that she could date. She was mad keen to get well known in England. One of the men Lizzie spoke of (Matt Cardle) said they were in touch with Meghan but didn't take it any further. Then when she was set up with Harry Lizzie said Meghan blanked her completely.
I can't see any reason why she would make this up out of the blue. Meghan could sue....:hee:
Yes you've posted many times what notorious blabbermouth Lizzie Cundy had to say to the press for a pay cheque and it never sounds anymore reliable no matter how you word it.
Are you sure you know your own mind though?
Why not let me tell you what you are really thinking :think:
Great one :joker:
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