Royal aides reveal bullying claim before Meghan’s Oprah interview

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Royal aides have hit back at the Duchess of Sussex before her television
interview with Oprah Winfrey by revealing that she faced a bullying complaint
made by one of her closest advisers during her time at Kensington Palace.

The sources approached The Times because they felt that only a partial
version had emerged of Meghan’s two years as a working member of the
royal family and they wished to tell their side, concerned about how such
matters are handled by the palace. The complaint claimed that she drove two
personal assistants out of the household and was undermining the
confidence of a third staff member.

It was made in October 2018 by Jason Knauf, the couple’s communications
secretary at the time.

Meghan made unreasonable demands that led to the departure of two
personal assistants and the undermining of a third during her two-year
period as a working member of the royal family.

Meghan and Harry, 36, have frequently complained that she has been a
victim of bullying, particularly at the hands of the British tabloid media.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-aides-reveal-meghan-bullying-claim-before-oprah-interview-7sxfvd2c3

If she was being interviewed by an actual interviewer like say Piers this would be brought up on Monday sadly it wont :(
For the Times to run with it it must be pretty cast iron i would have thought?

[arista]

Yes showing how nasty she gets.

[Tom4784]

The timing is too suspicious. This supposedly happened in 2018, but it's only coming to light now that the media have suffered a defeat at her hands? How very curious....

[bots]

the timing of this revelation is obviously very suspect

[arista]

The timing is too suspicious. This supposedly happened in 2018, but it's only coming to light now that the media have suffered a defeat at her hands? How very curious....


But then it could have been getting ready for the Front Page
At least it's a Respected paper.

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[Jordan.]

More promo for this highly anticipated interview :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The timing is too suspicious. This supposedly happened in 2018, but it's only coming to light now that the media have suffered a defeat at her hands? How very curious....

media is a term that includes TV, Radio, Press, Online, Social Media, cinema, magazines

they cant all have suffered a defeat?:shrug:

Are you referring to the Daily Mail?

[jet]

the timing of this revelation is obviously very suspect

As I said in the other thread though:
I think sources are breaking their silence now because they aren't going to let H&M get away with just a completely one - sided account.
The monarchy can't answer back to every allegation made in the usual way, so....

[Crimson Dynamo]

More promo for this highly anticipated interview :clap1:

2 people have been bullied out of a job

hardly cause to gloat and clap?

:conf:

[Jordan.]

2 people have been bullied out of a job

hardly cause to gloat and clap?

:conf:

Sounds familiar...

[rusticgal]

The timing is too suspicious. This supposedly happened in 2018, but it's only coming to light now that the media have suffered a defeat at her hands? How very curious....


I remember reading about it. Its irrelevant when it happened...
Quite frankly the public are getting sick and tired of them playing the victims. Maybe Meghan is a bully :shrug:....its often the trait of a bully to act the victim.

[LukeB]

I remember reading about it. Its irrelevant when it happened...
Quite frankly the public are getting sick and tired of them playing the victims. Maybe Meghan is a bully :shrug:....its often the trait of a bully to act the victim.

So sick and tired that they continue to obsess and talk about Meghan all the time and are definately going to watch a interview.

[rusticgal]

More promo for this highly anticipated interview :clap1:



Yup....the more that watch the better :dance:

[rusticgal]

So sick and tired that they continue to obsess and talk about Meghan all the time and are definately going to watch a interview.


Are you going to watch it?

[rusticgal]

Sounds familiar...


Meghan and Harry were not bullied out of a job :joker:

[LukeB]

Are you going to watch it?

On catch up yes :shrug:

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

With precious little new tv in the last year and constant bad news about the pandemic, id imagine this will boost tv viewership

plus everyone loves a total trainwreck like the Andrew one so plenty will tune in for the lolz

I cant imagine many will take it seriously however...

[jet]

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Interesting....they have evidence.
The email about the bullying was sent to HR by Kauf, head of Meghans own communications team.
Brushed under the carpet. Victims made to sign non - disclosure agreements.

[Crimson Dynamo]

PIERS MORGAN: After these shocking Palace bullying allegations, please spare
me anymore of halo-cracked hypocrites Meghan and Harry's women-
empowering victimhood garbage

On Monday, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex announced a 20-point guide to how to empower women.
Timed to coincide with next week's International Women's Day, it dripped with all the usual insufferably patronising self-
righteousness that's become the hallmark of the couple's endless hectoring homilies to the world.
'Let's unleash a groundswell of real acts of compassion for the women in your life!' they beseeched on their foundation website.
The 20 points, which included such blatantly sexist guff as telling us all to 'order from a woman-led restaurant' – can you
imagine the outrage if I suggested ordering from a man-led restaurant? - also contained this directive: 'Support safe spaces for
women.'
Fine words from a couple who never stop telling us how caring and compassionate they are, and how much they want to
'empower' women.
Doubtless, we'll hear a lot more of this narrative during their two-hour interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Just as we'll hear more on how they were driven out of Britain and the Royal Family by a bunch of nasty bullies in the Press and
Palace.
Oh, and how poor Meghan was silenced by restrictive royal protocol - and had her vitally important voice taken away from her.
The Oprah whine-athon will be brimming with anguished woe-is-me tears, indignant rage, wallowing self-pity and lots of claims
about how kind, caring Meghan and Harry just want to save the world.
But then we woke up to a rather different narrative this morning.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/03/13/39994504-9321173-image-a-2_1614778330467.jpg

The allegations were in an email written by the couple's then communications secretary Jason Knauf (pictured). The Times
reports that Prince Harry pleaded with him not to continue with his complaint, something Harry has denied. Knauf was right to
be concerned about the claims being brushed under the royal carpet because indeed, nothing was done - and a month later
Knauf quit his job and went to work for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge as one of their top aides

In it, he said: 'I am very concerned that the Duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year. The
treatment of X* was totally unacceptable. The Duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights. She is bullying Y
and seeking to undermine her confidence. We have had report after report from people who have witnessed unacceptable
behaviour towards Y.'

The details of the Times story are jaw-dropping, outlining a litany of alleged
bullying by Meghan towards her young female staff that reduced some to
tears.

Aides spoke of being humiliated and feeling 'sick' and 'terrified' by the
dreadful treatment they received.

After one row over an event, one reportedly told another: 'I feel terrified. I
can't stop shaking.':shocked:

And it wasn't just Meghan.

Harry stands accused of bullying behavior, too.

The Times reports that even before the wedding, one aide told a colleague
the couple were both 'outrageous bullies' and said they were considering
resigning.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9321173/PIERS-MORGAN-Spare-anymore-hypocrites-Meghan-Harrys-women-empowering-victimhood-garbage.html

Piers really is on his game with these two

[GoldHeart]

I remember reading about it. Its irrelevant when it happened...
Quite frankly the public are getting sick and tired of them playing the victims. Maybe Meghan is a bully :shrug:....its often the trait of a bully to act the victim.

Yeah yeah of course she is and everything evil under the sun :sleep:

[rusticgal]

Yeah yeah of course she is and everything evil under the sun :sleep:


Well maybe she is...how do you know she isnt?.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

I dont like JOB but this is funny :hehe:

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[AnnieK]

Well maybe she is...how do you know she isnt?.....

Well that's the point isn't it? We don't know but people will believe whichever headline fits their view of her.

At this point, I don't think many will ever change their opinions of her. It's evident in the threads that those who like her, always will and those that don't, won't. Them announcing the latest pregnancy was proof itself. Those who like her were happy and congratulatory, those who didn't mocked the way it was announced.

The media circus, and threads on here, will continue I guess until either they do go and live in a hut somewhere or something terrible happens as a consequence.

[LukeB]

Piers Morgan calling Meghan and Harry a hypocrite

Also Piers Morgan after slamming everyone for breaking the rules.
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[Brother Leon]

Ahh, the media hit pieces have began before her Oprah interview. What a shock.

[GoldHeart]

Piers Morgan calling Meghan and Harry a hypocrite

Also Piers Morgan after slamming everyone for breaking the rules.
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He's ridiculous :facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ahh, the media hit pieces have began before her Oprah interview. What a shock.

Its an article in The Times and believe it or not her "interview" is on "THe Media" ie a TV station

:idc:

[Brother Leon]

Its an article in The Times and believe it or not her "interview" is on "THe Media" ie a TV station

:idc:

UK Media I should have said. Sorry :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

UK Media I should have said. Sorry :hee:

The "interview" is on UK media ie ITV

:shrug:

[Beso]

Piers Morgan calling Meghan and Harry a hypocrite

Also Piers Morgan after slamming everyone for breaking the rules.
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What rule has he broken?

[Josy]

Dodgy timing

[LukeB]

What rule has he broken?


I don't think it needs to be pointed out really because it's very obvious.. we are still in lockdown and we're not really allowed to meet up socially and the lack of social distancing.

[jet]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/03/03/buckingham-palace-investigate-meghan-bullying-claims/

Buckingham Palace is to investigate claims that the Duchess of Sussex bullied several members of her staff, it was announced on Wednesday night.
A spokesperson said they were “clearly very concerned” about allegations that Meghan, 39, had forced out two PAs and undermined the confidence of a third.
Royal aides had expressed concerns about how such matters were handled by the palace.

Sources expressed concern that nothing was done at the time to investigate the situation, and nothing had been done since to protect staff against the possibility of bullying by a member of the Royal family.
Buckingham Palace confirmed that its HR team will look into the circumstances outlined in the various allegations leaked to The Times.
It said: “Members of staff involved at the time, including those who have left the Household, will be invited to participate to see if lessons can be learned.
“The Royal Household has had a Dignity at Work policy in place for a number of years and does not and will not tolerate bullying or harassment in the workplace.”............

[Ammi]

...Simon Cowell looks as though he’s recovering well after his accident...

[Beso]

I don't think it needs to be pointed out really because it's very obvious.. we are still in lockdown and we're not really allowed to meet up socially and the lack of social distancing.

How come Simon Cowell's no getting stick for it as well then:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

How come Simon Cowell's no getting stick for it as well then:shrug:

its a pic with no link or date

it should be deleted

misleading members

[LukeB]

How come Simon Cowell's no getting stick for it as well then:shrug:

He’s also an idiot but this is about Piers Morgan being a huge hypocrite himself.

[jet]

PIERS MORGAN: After these shocking Palace bullying allegations, please spare
me anymore of halo-cracked hypocrites Meghan and Harry's women-
empowering victimhood garbage

On Monday, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex announced a 20-point guide to how to empower women.
Timed to coincide with next week's International Women's Day, it dripped with all the usual insufferably patronising self-
righteousness that's become the hallmark of the couple's endless hectoring homilies to the world.
'Let's unleash a groundswell of real acts of compassion for the women in your life!' they beseeched on their foundation website.
The 20 points, which included such blatantly sexist guff as telling us all to 'order from a woman-led restaurant' – can you
imagine the outrage if I suggested ordering from a man-led restaurant? - also contained this directive: 'Support safe spaces for
women.'
Fine words from a couple who never stop telling us how caring and compassionate they are, and how much they want to
'empower' women.
Doubtless, we'll hear a lot more of this narrative during their two-hour interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Just as we'll hear more on how they were driven out of Britain and the Royal Family by a bunch of nasty bullies in the Press and
Palace.
Oh, and how poor Meghan was silenced by restrictive royal protocol - and had her vitally important voice taken away from her.
The Oprah whine-athon will be brimming with anguished woe-is-me tears, indignant rage, wallowing self-pity and lots of claims
about how kind, caring Meghan and Harry just want to save the world.
But then we woke up to a rather different narrative this morning.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/03/13/39994504-9321173-image-a-2_1614778330467.jpg

The allegations were in an email written by the couple's then communications secretary Jason Knauf (pictured). The Times
reports that Prince Harry pleaded with him not to continue with his complaint, something Harry has denied. Knauf was right to
be concerned about the claims being brushed under the royal carpet because indeed, nothing was done - and a month later
Knauf quit his job and went to work for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge as one of their top aides

In it, he said: 'I am very concerned that the Duchess was able to bully two PAs out of the household in the past year. The
treatment of X* was totally unacceptable. The Duchess seems intent on always having someone in her sights. She is bullying Y
and seeking to undermine her confidence. We have had report after report from people who have witnessed unacceptable
behaviour towards Y.'

The details of the Times story are jaw-dropping, outlining a litany of alleged
bullying by Meghan towards her young female staff that reduced some to
tears.

Aides spoke of being humiliated and feeling 'sick' and 'terrified' by the
dreadful treatment they received.

After one row over an event, one reportedly told another: 'I feel terrified. I
can't stop shaking.':shocked:

And it wasn't just Meghan.

Harry stands accused of bullying behavior, too.

The Times reports that even before the wedding, one aide told a colleague
the couple were both 'outrageous bullies' and said they were considering
resigning.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9321173/PIERS-MORGAN-Spare-anymore-hypocrites-Meghan-Harrys-women-empowering-victimhood-garbage.html

Piers really is on his game with these two

He always is - he has a highly functioning BS detector.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He always is - he has a highly functioning BS detector.

he is the voice of the nation and of course, the latest viewing figures confirm this

[DouglasS]

The timing is too suspicious. This supposedly happened in 2018, but it's only coming to light now that the media have suffered a defeat at her hands? How very curious....

Sounds like miss Priti you are describing

[Cherie]

I don't think it needs to be pointed out really because it's very obvious.. we are still in lockdown and we're not really allowed to meet up socially and the lack of social distancing.

I think Piers is a hypocrite for jetting off at Christmas, however you are allowed to meet one person outside who is not from your household, they are close together but maybe they are in a bubble :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

To those that talk about the suspicious timing it’s called keeping an ace up your sleeve for a rainy day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

To those that talk about the suspicious timing it’s called keeping an ace up your sleeve for a rainy day.

now when Meghan makes her "allegations" they are framed in the fact she has been exposed a nasty bully and a patsy for Saudi Arabia

palace 1

markle 0

always best to get your retaliation in first

[Amy Jade]

I don't believe a word of it. It's the media lying because she's going to show them up very soon for the racist scum they are.

[thesheriff443]

I don't believe a word of it. It's the media lying because she's going to show them up very soon for the racist scum they are.

It was in the news before but bullying was not mentioned but staff and nannies we’re leaving their jobs.

[Tom4784]

I remember reading about it. Its irrelevant when it happened...
Quite frankly the public are getting sick and tired of them playing the victims. Maybe Meghan is a bully :shrug:....its often the trait of a bully to act the victim.

Kinda like how the media harassed Meghan for ages and is now accusing her of bullying now that a court sided with her?

[jet]

Kinda like how the media harassed Meghan for ages and is now accusing her of bullying now that a court sided with her?

He media aren't accusing her of bullying, they are reporting on it. I don't think you can have done any reading about this yet? It is in the Times. Several articles posted in the other thread...
It was her own communications manager who reported the bullying of several female staff to HR at the Palace.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't believe a word of it. It's the media lying because she's going to show them up very soon for the racist scum they are.

The guardian are racist?

[arista]

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[AnnieK]

So........Harry and Meghan stepped back a year ago....life carries on......meg and harry decide to do an interview.....the palace decide to carry out an inquiry now......(despite several posters on here saying they heard these allegations last year).....and the timing isn't suspect??? Damage limitation anyone :laugh:

[rusticgal]

So........Harry and Meghan stepped back a year ago....life carries on.... :laugh:


Not for Meghan and Harry....still whinging about their reasons for leaving :laugh:
...why shouldn’t everyone else have the right to fight back?

[jet]

Harry and Meghan, whose 'no holds barred' CBS interview with Miss Winfrey will be broadcast on Sunday in America and in the UK on Monday at 9pm on ITV – which reportedly paid £1million – hit back at the allegations in The Times. A spokesman claimed the newspaper was being 'used by Buckingham Palace to peddle a wholly false narrative' before the interview.

Yesterday a senior Palace source told the Mail: 'This is absolutely untrue. We haven't been 'peddling' anything. It's disingenuous [to suggest that]. There are far more important things going on in the world [a reference to the pandemic and Prince Philip's hospitalisation] that have been focusing our attention, rather than the circus around a media interview.'

Another source added: 'The Palace has 100 per cent refused to discuss in any way, shape or form the interview.

'Every journalist that has been asking them about it for the last week or so knows that.

'The view from the start is that nothing good is to be gained from doing that. Their view has not changed. The suggestion that this is a Palace-orchestrated smear campaign is deeply offensive and patently false.' - Rebecca English, Daily Mail.

[arista]

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[The crisis has echoes of the dramas that followed the
Abdication of Edward VIII in 1936 after he chose to
marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson]


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9323093/Meghan-Markles-bully-claims-worst-royal-crisis-abdication-writes-RICHARD-KAY.html

[Zizu]

More like the not so loyal , royal staff are selling their made up stories to the highest bidding newspaper before the Oprey interview airs .


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[rusticgal]

Despite my dislike for Meghan, who I think has been a driving force in this whole debacle...I think Harry has shown so much disrespect for his family. No matter how he feels about the press...he is showing no respect for his Father, brother or grandparents. Meghan has no respect for hers and Harry is now doing the same.
Such a shame...they are coming across as two self centred people who think they so precious and so deserving.
Their selfish and self absorbed entitlement in the times we are living in speaks volumes. I hope it comes back and bites them in their precocious bums...

[arista]

More like the not so loyal , royal staff are selling their made up stories to the highest bidding newspaper before the Oprey interview airs .




You do not know they are made up.
The Official Investigation is now on.

[hijaxers]

Despite my dislike for Meghan, who I think has been a driving force in this whole debacle...I think Harry has shown so much disrespect for his family. No matter how he feels about the press...he is showing no respect for his Father, brother or grandparents. Meghan has no respect for hers and Harry is now doing the same.
Such a shame...they are coming across as two self centred people who think they so precious and so deserving.
Their selfish and self absorbed entitlement in the times we are living in speaks volumes. I hope it comes back and bites them in their precocious bums...

:clap1:

[Cherie]

A new clip has been released where Megs says the Royals perpetuated falsehoods against her, so the narrative has changed and it’s not the racist press now :facepalm: so that looks like both families alienated now, never mind at least they have good friends in LA :laugh:

[Beso]

So........Harry and Meghan stepped back a year ago....life carries on......meg and harry decide to do an interview.....the palace decide to carry out an inquiry now......(despite several posters on here saying they heard these allegations last year).....and the timing isn't suspect??? Damage limitation anyone :laugh:


It's happening now because the people who were bullied feel like the ophrahshow is not a true and fair reflection on her character.

[Ammi]

...it isn’t in any way unusual for some staff to leave their jobs when there is a change of ‘boss’, as they say and someone bringing in tweaks and changes etc that aren’t agreed with ‘ because we’ve always got on wonderfully running it all our way’...etc..we know that’s a very common thing...people often don't like change in their workplace and I think with Royal household staff, for some, there would be another layer of being Royalists and loving ‘Royal traditional ways’ and a resistance to that new boss in her being someone who doesn’t understand that she can’t make any changes to how ‘royal things are done’...how very dare she...I recall some kind of headline a long time when Meghan did some small everyday thing ...(...I can’t recall what it was...)...for herself in public and the vibe of the article was...’but we don’t do that, we have staff to do that for us, things have to be done our way...’...etc...anyway, so far as actual bullying allegations, I abhor bullying and it has to be investigated always...allegations of bullying and actual bullying taking place are something that have to marry together....


...I agree though, with what some TV news media have discussed in that this was 3 years ago and those allegations were very much known but no acknowledgement or comment or investigation etc at that time...3 years later and it’s referred to again and almost within moments, an investigation is declared to be being started immediately...and all within days of a ‘tell all interview’ ...I don’t know what the outcome will be but I personally feel, whichever way...for Meghan, for Harry and for the Royal family etc...this won’t reflect well and the Royal family didn’t act to protect either Meghan or royal staff...

[Kazanne]

I think Piers is a hypocrite for jetting off at Christmas, however you are allowed to meet one person outside who is not from your household, they are close together but maybe they are in a bubble :laugh:

Plus Simon does, at least have a mask on, obviously just took it down to smoke

[Kazanne]

It's happening now because the people who were bullied feel like the ophrahshow is not a true and fair reflection on her character.

Also they probably feel now that she is no longer, a member of the royal family that they, are free to open up about things, it was first reported in 2018 when she was a royal

[Ammi]

...no one knows what will be said in the interview but obviously it is being said by all that it’s a ‘nothing is out of limits’ interview...but it can also be looked at that why would anyone take some kind of ‘defence stance’ unless they felt there would be a possibility of an attack coming against them and why would an attack be assumed as ‘victim’ is being claimed and Meghan the bully and aggressor etc...it would make no sense that she would draw any attention for the very reason that, that would possibly lead to this investigation that’s happening now, which she’s claiming are all convenient falsehoods to damage her story....anyway, we’ll see what the investigation brings plus listen to her words...I wonder how the investigation will be done and who will conduct it...as it would have to have impartiality....

[Cherie]

...no one knows what will be said in the interview but obviously it is being said by all that it’s a ‘nothing is out of limits’ interview...but it can also be looked at that why would anyone take some kind of ‘defence stance’ unless they felt there would be a possibility of an attack coming against them and why would an attack be assumed as ‘victim’ is being claimed and Meghan the bully and aggressor etc...it would make no sense that she would draw any attention for the very reason that, that would possibly lead to this investigation that’s happening now, which she’s claiming are all convenient falsehoods to damage her story....anyway, we’ll see what the investigation brings plus listen to her words...I wonder how the investigation will be done and who will conduct it...as it would have to have impartiality....

I fully believe the Palace has seen it already

[Cherie]

It's all very sad really because at the end of the day it is human beings involved on both sides, and it is all beginning to smack very much of Jeremy Kyle unfortunately

[AnnieK]

It's happening now because the people who were bullied feel like the ophrahshow is not a true and fair reflection on her character.

The people who felt bullied by her felt bullied then. As I said, people on this forum said they heard of it at the time. My problem is if was known then, the Palace had a duty of care to investigate it THEN and they have neglected that duty until it became apparent that they may need some damage limitation or to at least make people doubt whatever it is Meghan has to say.

The people who felt bullied absolutely need some support but they needed it then too. Now they have fully stepped back, there is little they can do to rectify the situation, other than possibly throw money at it. If it were investigated and proven at the time, when Meghan and Harry were still working members of the family, there could have been a better resolution. :shrug:

I think it stinks of a knee jerk reaction and the people who feel bullied will be used as pawns in a power battle

[AnnieK]

It's all very sad really because at the end of the day it is human beings involved on both sides, and it is all beginning to smack very much of Jeremy Kyle unfortunately

Completely agree with this....its going to be "he said, she said" etc for the foreseeable

[Cherie]

The people who felt bullied by her felt bullied then. As I said, people on this forum said they heard of it at the time. My problem is if was known then, the Palace had a duty of care to investigate it THEN and they have neglected that duty until it became apparent that they may need some damage limitation or to at least make people doubt whatever it is Meghan has to say.

The people who felt bullied absolutely need some support but they needed it then too. Now they have fully stepped back, there is little they can do to rectify the situation, other than possibly throw money at it. If it were investigated and proven at the time, when Meghan and Harry were still working members of the family, there could have been a better resolution. :shrug:

I think it stinks of a knee jerk reaction and the people who feel bullied will be used as pawns in a power battle

I don't know what the lines are for Palace Staff, and who is managed by who, is it possible the Queen was not aware of it at the time and it was dealt with by someone else? The line coming out this morning from the Meghan camp is that she is a Diva and very demanding but that that is not a bad thing :laugh:

[AnnieK]

I don't know what the lines are for Palace Staff, and who is managed by who, is it possible the Queen was not aware of it at the time and it was dealt with by someone else? The line coming out this morning from the Meghan camp is that she is a Diva and very demanding but that that is not a bad thing :laugh:

Oh absolutely, I am sure the Queen is completely unaware of HR issues, like most bosses, she will employ someone to worry about that. I am not blaming the Queen at all but someone within the organisation has let these staff members down by not dealing with it appropriately and to now decide to investigate shows little concern for the staff members and more that they need some ammunition.

Like you said, its playing out like an awful tv show.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think what is apparent is that its all about the timing of the allegation, not many people saying "meghan isnt a bully"

looks like most people think "yep, that figures"

[Ammi]

Oh absolutely, I am sure the Queen is completely unaware of HR issues, like most bosses, she will employ someone to worry about that. I am not blaming the Queen at all but someone within the organisation has let these staff members down by not dealing with it appropriately and to now decide to investigate shows little concern for the staff members and more that they need some ammunition.

Like you said, its playing out like an awful tv show.

...yeah, this is what is being more discussed by the TV news media that whichever way this flips in terms of, was there bullying involved or not...?...the Royal family failed to protect either Meghan or Royal staff in their duty of care...so it doesn’t reflect well on them...there are no ‘winners’ here, whatever the outcome of any investigation...

[Ammi]

...I can’t see that anyone can say that Meghan and Harry are bullies or aren’t bullies with only hearsay type statements atm...I’m not sure who ‘most people’ are either...

[Cherie]

...yeah, this is what is being more discussed by the TV news media that whichever way this flips in terms of, was there bullying involved or not...?...the Royal family failed to protect either Meghan or Royal staff in their duty of care...so it doesn’t reflect well on them...there are no ‘winners’ here, whatever the outcome of any investigation...

Neither side are going to come out of this looking well, Harry will always be remembered for putting the boot into his family when they were at their most vulnerable, that will be his legacy

[Ammi]

...are we saying that most people will assume truth and guilt of any accusation with no foundation of proof being found yet...

[Cherie]

...are we saying that most people will assume truth and guilt of any accusation with no foundation of proof being found yet...

I am not saying that at all, I am talking about what is actually going on in front of our eyes right now.

[thesheriff443]

If you look at the yew tree investigations or other incidents they are not always investigated at the time in some cases it’s years later because the people at the time did not report them or the people who looked into the allegations did not take it further.

[Ammi]

Neither side are going to come out of this looking well, Harry will always be remembered for putting the boot into his family when they were at their most vulnerable, that will be his legacy

...well, I personally don’t take the ‘boot in’ stance but that’s a conversation that I don’t have time to give and it’s gone around and around in circles so many times anyway...but yeah, as I said before....I don’t believe there will be any ‘winners’ here and and reflects very badly on the ‘Royal firm as well’...

[Ammi]

I am not saying that at all, I am talking about what is actually going on in front of our eyes right now.

...I didn’t say that you were saying that, Cherie...:laugh:...

[Cherie]

...well, I personally don’t take the ‘boot in’ stance but that’s a conversation that I don’t have time to give and it’s gone around and around in circles so many times anyway...but yeah, as I said before....I don’t believe there will be any ‘winners’ here and and reflects very badly on the ‘Royal firm as well’...

They are not out there giving 'no holds barred' interviews though :shrug:

[AnnieK]

If you look at the yew tree investigations or other incidents they are not always investigated at the time in some cases it’s years later because the people at the time did not report them or the people who looked into the allegations did not take it further.

These allegations were reported. As an employer, the Royal Family have a duty of care and a legal obligation to protect the welfare of the staff. If these allegations prove true, the staff members could and should take them to an employment tribunal for failing to follow up correctly at the time. Sadly now, what should have dealt with swiftly, decisively and privately at the time will be played out in the media glare and these individuals will be thrust into the limelight in an attempt to point score. They will not have anonymity that would have had if it was dealt with at the time.

[Cherie]

...I didn’t say that you were saying that, Cherie...:laugh:...

I wasn't sure if you were referring to me :worry:

[Kazanne]

...are we saying that most people will assume truth and guilt of any accusation with no foundation of proof being found yet...

Well Ammi it happens ,some people from the past have been found not guilty but people still think they are guilty even though a court has found them not to be ,people have their own preconceptions and I don't think any one with those thoughts will ever change their minds.

[thesheriff443]

These allegations were reported. As an employer, the Royal Family have a duty of care and a legal obligation to protect the welfare of the staff. If these allegations prove true, the staff members could and should take them to an employment tribunal for failing to follow up correctly at the time. Sadly now, what should have dealt with swiftly, decisively and privately at the time will be played out in the media glare and these individuals will be thrust into the limelight in an attempt to point score. They will not have anonymity that would have had if it was dealt with at the time.

There have of course been individuals let down if these bullying claims are proven true but history as shown there have been many cover ups in many organisations over the years.

At the time covering up bullying claims would of protected Meghan not the people being bullied

Meghan and Harry have show they don’t give two f’s for the queen so maybe its the right time for the shxt to hit the fan

[Ammi]

...I guess that what I see going on in front of my eyes now and from the beginning of the ‘Meghan era’...is a very extreme negative media slant, which has been too apparent to deny/ignore...so anything negative being accused of her now..(...and Harry to a lesser extent...)...is in full awareness that it’ll get full support from some media to lean toward to being ‘guilty unless proven without doubt otherwise’...but that’s not to say that there isn’t truth either which is why no one can say ‘Meghan isn’t a bully’....but that doesn’t indicate either any ‘yes that figures’ thought process either...’most people’ I would think, are waiting to see any outcome...

[Ammi]

I wasn't sure if you were referring to me :worry:

...it’s difficult because I’m slow at typing as well so there is often a few posts that have gone by before mine appears...

[thesheriff443]

...it’s difficult because I’m slow at typing as well so there is often a few posts that have gone by before mine appears...

You need to think of me then with my one finger efforts 😂

[Ammi]

They are not out there giving 'no holds barred' interviews though :shrug:

...they’re not able to, though ...which for me has to be factored as well...as part of ‘the Royal firm’, Meghan and Harry would have had many restrictions also and this is the first time they’ve been able to speak with full freedom of voice...

[AnnieK]

There have of course been individuals let down if these bullying claims are proven true but history as shown there have been many cover ups in many organisations over the years.

At the time covering up bullying claims would of protected Meghan not the people being bullied

Meghan and Harry have show they don’t give two f’s for the queen so maybe its the right time for the shxt to hit the fan

Agree with this and that is where I am saying there has been failings and those failings were made by the employers (the Royals). I abhor bullying of any kind and it being covered up, I don't care who it protects, is wrong. I truly hope there has been no bullying and that the allegations were brushed aside because there was no substance to them and not to protect someone.

[Ammi]

You need to think of me then with my one finger efforts 😂

...the one fingered Sheriff...?...yeah, that wouldn’t be an easy type at all....

[Ammi]

Well Ammi it happens ,some people from the past have been found not guilty but people still think they are guilty even though a court has found them not to be ,people have their own preconceptions and I don't think any one with those thoughts will ever change their minds.

...yeah, I can’t really disagree with any of that, Kaz....

[Cherie]

...they’re not able to, though ...which for me has to be factored as well...as part of ‘the Royal firm’, Meghan and Harry would have had many restrictions also and this is the first time they’ve been able to speak with full freedom of voice...

why do they need to attack the family, the narrative was that it was the press drove them away? now its the family feeding stories to the Press, they are beginning to look like trailer trash! Doing the rounds dishing the dirt, I think it will tarnish their 'brand' rather than enhance it

[thesheriff443]

Agree with this and that is where I am saying there has been failings and those failings were made by the employers (the Royals). I abhor bullying of any kind and it being covered up, I don't care who it protects, is wrong. I truly hope there has been no bullying and that the allegations were brushed aside because there was no substance to them and not to protect someone.

I’m afraid history has shown not every one gets treated fairly you only have to look at how someone of colour gets treated compared to a white person or how someone with money gets treated to a poor person.

Llfe is definitely not fair.

[thesheriff443]

I think it’s some times good to give a real life example of failings

Many years ago when I was a bad boy I walked into a police station and handed the sergeant a fake insurance document he briefly looked over it and said it looks alright if it’s not you’ve gotten away with it.

A basic phone call would of landed me in the ****.

[Crimson Dynamo]

0nnlsiYti48

[Zizu]

You do not know they are made up.

The Official Investigation is now on.



The timing is rather suspicious


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[Zizu]

It's happening now because the people who were bullied feel like the ophrahshow is not a true and fair reflection on her character.



Maybe , some of the Royal staff were not too welcoming towards MM .. either by choice or by instruction from above ..

It’s entirely feasible that she never felt as though she ‘belonged’


I seem to recall the very same thing happening to Princess Di


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[Crimson Dynamo]

The timing is rather suspicious


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if you watch the above video that is clearly explained by the journalist who was approached

again it also dispels any claim that it was press led

[Ammi]

why do they need to attack the family, the narrative was that it was the press drove them away? now its the family feeding stories to the Press, they are beginning to look like trailer trash! Doing the rounds dishing the dirt, I think it will tarnish their 'brand' rather than enhance it

...we don’t know the complexities of families either and whether there was always a feeling of a failure to protect Meghan, the statement that was issued in the early days regarding racist comments and undertones etc and concern for just general unnecessarily negative articles/headlines/attention came from Harry himself I believe and not from the palace...why didn’t his family step in to protect Meghan as well may have been something that was part of any dynamics leading up to any decisions...anyway, we don’t know but ‘trailer trash’ has become very much a descriptive that has become representative of so much media, I feel...


"Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang scarred home of her mother revealed — so will he be dropping by for tea?"

"Now that's upwardly mobile! How in 150 years, Meghan Markle's family went from cotton slaves to royalty via freedom in the U.S. Civil War ... while her dad's ancestors included a maid at Windsor Castle"

“Yes, they’re joyfully in love. So why do I have a niggling worry about his engagement picture?”


Journalist Rachel Johnson wrote for The Mail on Sunday that Markle could help bring "rich and exotic DNA" to the royal family. Rachel, the sister of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, goes on to describe Markle’s mother as “a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks."


The Sun ran with “Harry Girl’s on Pornhub” after a clip of her from the television show "Suits" appeared on the adult website. The tabloid later issued an apology.


But that did not stop The Sun from running pieces focusing on Markle’s “VERY un-royal family” and comparisons between Markle and Kate Middleton, Prince William’s wife which revolved around Markle’s background, race and past relationships.


“seventy years ago, Meghan Markle would have been the kind of woman the Prince would have had for a mistress, not a wife.”....and hasn’t it been reported that William himself asked why Harry had to marry that American girl, or something similar...

[arista]

The timing is rather suspicious





Only to folks like you.

[arista]

0nnlsiYti48

Thanks LT for Posting.


See Zizu
there is a reason
why it came Front Page,

[Cherie]

...we don’t know the complexities of families either and whether there was always a feeling of a failure to protect Meghan, the statement that was issued in the early days regarding racist comments and undertones etc and concern for just general unnecessarily negative articles/headlines/attention came from Harry himself I believe and not from the palace...why didn’t his family step in to protect Meghan as well may have been something that was part of any dynamics leading up to any decisions...anyway, we don’t know but ‘trailer trash’ has become very much a descriptive that has become representative of so much media, I feel...


"Harry's girl is (almost) straight outta Compton: Gang scarred home of her mother revealed — so will he be dropping by for tea?"

"Now that's upwardly mobile! How in 150 years, Meghan Markle's family went from cotton slaves to royalty via freedom in the U.S. Civil War ... while her dad's ancestors included a maid at Windsor Castle"

“Yes, they’re joyfully in love. So why do I have a niggling worry about his engagement picture?”


Journalist Rachel Johnson wrote for The Mail on Sunday that Markle could help bring "rich and exotic DNA" to the royal family. Rachel, the sister of British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, goes on to describe Markle’s mother as “a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks."


The Sun ran with “Harry Girl’s on Pornhub” after a clip of her from the television show "Suits" appeared on the adult website. The tabloid later issued an apology.


But that did not stop The Sun from running pieces focusing on Markle’s “VERY un-royal family” and comparisons between Markle and Kate Middleton, Prince William’s wife which revolved around Markle’s background, race and past relationships.


“seventy years ago, Meghan Markle would have been the kind of woman the Prince would have had for a mistress, not a wife.”....and hasn’t it been reported that William himself asked why Harry had to marry that American girl, or something similar...

If they moved away last year and said we have personal issues, I might buy that, they blamed it all on the media, up to Harry on the bus with James, (from the clip that I saw), now that has changed and the tone has gone a bit more sour, is that because they weren't allowed to have a foot in and a foot out, I don't know..

anyhow I am sick of talking about them now so I am going to bow out of this for now

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/04/07/40029282-9323183-image-a-41_1614842422537.jpg

[Beso]

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

[AnnieK]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/04/07/40029282-9323183-image-a-41_1614842422537.jpg

That just shows though that the Palace did not follow through their Dignity in the Workplace policy. The original email in 2018 shows serious concerns and it should have been dealt with then, not some 3 years later, a year after meghan has quit and days before a potentially explosive interview. What are they worried she is going to say? :worry:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

I think the Palace did not fully investigate the Meghan bullying because they feared she would cry discrimination...

[Zizu]

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.



Yes it’s quite ridiculous that Harry and Meg get all this hassle given what we’ve ‘heard’ ‘bout randyandy




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[AnnieK]

I think the Palace did not fully investigate the Meghan bullying because they feared she would cry discrimination...

If they have clear policies in place for dealing with discrimination, harassment and bullying, like all workplaces are meant to , by law,there should have been no concerns in undertaking an investigation at the time. The fact that it was reported and not thoroughly investigated casts doubt on the robustness of their HR team in all honesty

[bots]

For someone that values her privacy so much, she sure spends a lot of time airing her grievances in public. It's hilarious really

[AnnieK]

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

I think that should be down to the Police, not the Palace. These allegations about Meghan are about a member of staff, the allegations about Andrew are not work related. The Queen sacked him as an employee and she maintained the integrity of the "business". Unless there have been reports of his proclivities towards a member of Palace staff, there is little more the Palace can do about him :shrug:

[Cherie]

For someone that values her privacy so much, she sure spends a lot of time airing her grievances in public. It's hilarious really

and 'building compassion around the world' that doesn't extend to the elderlies in her family obviously :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and 'building compassion around the world' that doesn't extend to the elderlies in her family obviously :laugh:

and womens rights...

until the Saudi prince gifts you some diamonds....

[jet]

I think this is at the heart of what went wrong...
From The Times:

The palace knew that when Harry married a woman who was biracial, American and divorced, they had to go out of their way to make sure the marriage was a success: if it was not, the royal household and their supposedly hidebound ways would be blamed. “Everyone knew that the institution would be judged by her happiness,” a source said. “The mistake they made was thinking she wanted to be happy. She wanted to be rejected because she was obsessed with that narrative from day one.”
More than one source has expressed their view about her wanting to be a victim. One claimed: “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.”

..........
While the second paragraph is an opinion (which many share), the first paragraph sounds very logical.

So I think that when the palace ‘men in grey suits’ were informed by Meghans communication secretary about the bullying of the females, they protected Meghan by hushing it up and brushing it under the carpet. The senior royals knew nothing about the allegations apparently, thats what their staff is there for.
Those staff need to be held to account and as these victims felt bullied and are still suffering from trauma a year later, as they have said, Meghan needs to be held to account. Those females are hardly being forced and coached by the royals to tell a pack of lies now, are they?
Meghan is choosing to tell the world her version of events, these girls have the right to tell theirs ahead of what would otherwise be a one - sided view.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think this is at the heart of what went wrong...
From The Times:

The palace knew that when Harry married a woman who was biracial, American and divorced, they had to go out of their way to make sure the marriage was a success: if it was not, the royal household and their supposedly hidebound ways would be blamed. “Everyone knew that the institution would be judged by her happiness,” a source said. “The mistake they made was thinking she wanted to be happy. She wanted to be rejected because she was obsessed with that narrative from day one.”
More than one source has expressed their view about her wanting to be a victim. One claimed: “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.”

..........
While the second paragraph is an opinion (which many share), the first paragraph sounds very logical.

So I think that when the palace ‘men in grey suits’ were informed by Meghans communication secretary about the bullying of the females, they protected Meghan by hushing it up and brushing it under the carpet. The senior royals knew nothing about the allegations apparently, thats what their staff is there for.
Those staff need to be held to account and as these victims felt bullied and are still suffering from trauma a year later, as they have said, Meghan needs to be held to account. Those females are hardly being forced and coached by the royals to tell a pack of lies now, are they?
Meghan is choosing to tell the world her version of events, these girls have the right to tell theirs ahead of what would otherwise be a one - sided view.

I think that her thunder has been stolen by the "Survivors of the Sussex's" and i wonder if they will try and re-shoot stuff in light? :think:

[jet]

I think that her thunder has been stolen by the "Survivors of the Sussex's" and i wonder if they will try and re-shoot stuff in light? :think:

Oprah having to do another edit? I wonder if she is beginning to doubt if this big scoop was such a good idea after all. :hee:

[arista]

Surely the palace should be investigating prince Andrew as well.


No,
as that it all a USA Utter Mess

[Ammi]

..if these are copies of emails that were exchanged 3 years ago then this is reflecting so badly on the Royal household and Royal family as well...they can’t really not investigate now or state that they will conduct that investigation now and it be an independent investigation, I’m not sure who would conduct that tbh..they really are showing a failure to protect...this is important and very serious now but it wasn’t then..?...was William shown the email and no investigation into the accusation...and if there was one then no substance to be found in that investigation....?..if he wasn’t shown them ...then a very serious lacking in work policies and procedures in ‘potential bullying matters must come directly to a Royal member’... so the whole investigation now would need to focus greatly on that as well...I mean, the Royal family do all hold positions of power and we know that such power is frequently abused in many ways in work places...so this is somewhere where policies should be scrutinised to protect and any email such as that, be immediately taken action on...

[Cherie]

and womens rights...

until the Saudi prince gifts you some diamonds....

:skull:

[jet]

..and hasn’t it been reported that William himself asked why Harry had to marry that American girl, or something similar...

No, I've never heard that reported anywhere.

According to the authors of Finding Freedom, William told his younger brother, “Don’t feel you need to rush this. Take as much time as you need to get to know this girl.”

Which is the same with all the other accounts I have read.

Maybe for the sake of accuracy, you would like to edit your post? Up to you of course. :hee:

[Vicky.]

The people who felt bullied by her felt bullied then. As I said, people on this forum said they heard of it at the time. My problem is if was known then, the Palace had a duty of care to investigate it THEN and they have neglected that duty until it became apparent that they may need some damage limitation or to at least make people doubt whatever it is Meghan has to say.


Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

[Kazanne]

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.

[Zizu]

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.



... persue the money ....


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[Ammi]

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.



...yeah, I think also that it reflects so badly for the Royal family and household...which is why I’m also thinking that it wasn’t them who had any hand in this being said now, 3 year later, either...

[jet]

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

I don’t entirely agree with that Vicky. Yes, the ‘men in grey suits’ were very wrong to hush it up; they did it to protect Meghan’s reputation, which is still wrong, and they need to be held to account for that, but I don’t think it is much worse than the actual bullying itself which have left girls traumatized to this day.
My understanding is that the people in question wanted their side of the story known as Meghan is going to give hers. A one sided account wouldn’t be fair on anyone.

[Cherie]

Yup, thats my thoughts on it too tbh.

I am not saying it did not happen, it might have. However, if it did, and it was known at the time, it seems quite ridiculous to just let it go for years, until now. IMO, as much as people keep saying 'X doesnt reflect well on Meghan' and such, this story, if true, makes 'the palace' look MUCH worse than Meghan does. Because quite simply, they ignored bullying accusations and just kept it as a trump card for the future just incase?! Didn't care about it at all until it could be used as a gotchya. Really.

Ontop of this, bullying accusations years on, are not likely to be proven really. At the time, it would have been easier to investigate, and potentially possible to prove, rather than gossip.

I disagree, if people can get justice in later life for sexual assault carried out when they were kids, there should be no issue with this as I assume records were kept at the time

It should not have been swept under the carpet at the time, and it shouldn't be now either.

[Alf]

Meanwhile, there's still a wall around Washington DC with a military presence. Just a normal everyday happening it seems.

[AnnieK]

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.

They reported it Kaz so they wanted it dealt with. It was the higher ups who buried it :shrug:

[Beso]

I think that should be down to the Police, not the Palace. These allegations about Meghan are about a member of staff, the allegations about Andrew are not work related. The Queen sacked him as an employee and she maintained the integrity of the "business". Unless there have been reports of his proclivities towards a member of Palace staff, there is little more the Palace can do about him :shrug:

Ah ok..

Well they need to investigate these allegations of bullying very thoroughly then.

[jet]

It also has to be factored in that -
'Harry pleaded with Mr. Knauf not to pursue the allegations'. (The Times)
Harry has denied this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Nah, with all of this "Well now WE accuse YOU first hahaha!" stuff, The Royal Illusion has been unveiled as just another petty political entity. Stiff upper lip and pretending to be above it would have been their best way forward. They're down scrapping in the mud now like all of the other celebs... can't say I don't enjoy seeing it :joker:. It was never anything but smoke and mirrors and relied upon the public buying into the whole thing to keep afloat... now even the future king's brother isn't buying into it so it's collapsing like a pack of soggy cards and they're chucking around rumours and accusations. So undignified. Love that :hehe:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nah, with all of this "Well now WE accuse YOU first hahaha!" stuff, The Royal Illusion has been unveiled as just another petty political entity. Stiff upper lip and pretending to be above it would have been their best way forward. They're down scrapping in the mud now like all of the other celebs... can't say I don't enjoy seeing it :joker:. It was never anything but smoke and mirrors and relied upon the public buying into the whole thing to keep afloat... now even the future king's brother isn't buying into it so it's collapsing like a pack of soggy cards and they're chucking around rumours and accusations. So undignified. Love that :hehe:.

none of the people who approached the Times work for the Royal Family

[Tom4784]

The fact that nothing came of it, and that the media have seemingly sat on this for quite a while and only chose to reveal it when they were just soundly beaten in court speaks volumes.

A rational mind would look to this story with a ton of doubt, given the circumstances. If it was a different royal, I doubt the media and the people they cater for would be so quick to believe it.

[rusticgal]

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

[user104658]

none of the people who approached the Times work for the Royal FamilyDoes that matter? They're embroiled in petty tut-for-tat nonsense. It shows them up as no different to any I their celebrity family. It Chips away at the Royal Pantomime. That's funny (to me).

[Cherie]

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

Another family shunned....

unbelievable

[Tom4784]

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

That's a whole lot of assumptions without any kind of basis beyond disliking Meghan.

[GoldHeart]

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

Stop the whole "Harry stands by and watches" , he's a grown man not a child , he's been trying to get away from royal duties for a long time . Harry has never been too bothered about that lifestyle.

Tell me if Kate had these accusations would you think she was also manipulative and destroying the family? , or would you think she's been the victim of a smear campaign hmm I think the latter :idc: .

[LukeB]

Stop the whole "Harry stands by and watches" , he's a grown man not a child , he's been trying to get away from royal duties for a long time . Harry has never been too bothered about that lifestyle.

Tell me if Kate had these accusations would you think she was also manipulative and destroying the family? , or would you think she's been the victim of a smear campaign hmm I think the latter :idc: .

No, Kate would be forgiven straight away because she's white.

[Vicky.]

Maybe those people were too apprehensive to do anything at that time as they were both royals,maybe now they have stepped down they feel more able to persue the claims.

Oh no, I understand victims often do not report at the time and stuff. BUT, it seemed like it was reported and seemingly ignored also given its rearing its head now, years later.

So yeah, certainly not blaming the alleged victims here. Of course the 'powerful people' stuff would put off many from making a complaint. But...they did complain at the time, so the issue clearly was not that they feared the royals or anything.

Genuinely wouldn't be surprised though if it turns out proven. Its just...the royals response, of brushing it under the carpet instead of doing an investigation a the time,. then throwing it out there years later, for whatever reason. An investigation that should have been done ages back..if now simply being used as leverage to me..

[Vicky.]

I don’t entirely agree with that Vicky. Yes, the ‘men in grey suits’ were very wrong to hush it up; they did it to protect Meghan’s reputation, which is still wrong, and they need to be held to account for that, but I don’t think it is much worse than the actual bullying itself which have left girls traumatized to this day.
My understanding is that the people in question wanted their side of the story known as Meghan is going to give hers. A one sided account wouldn’t be fair on anyone.
Men in grey suits?! Sounds like a movie..assume its been mentioned on this thread though so will read back a bit.. actually very curious about that!:joker:


I disagree, if people can get justice in later life for sexual assault carried out when they were kids, there should be no issue with this as I assume records were kept at the time

It should not have been swept under the carpet at the time, and it shouldn't be now either.

Yeah some manage to do it. But..an investigation at the time in MUCH more likely to get to the truth of it, peoples memories will be fresher, possibly cctv recordings, etc.

[Tom4784]

It's quite a privilege to be bored of issues of race, not everyone can afford to be.

[jet]

Men in grey suits?! Sounds like a movie..assume its been mentioned on this thread though so will read back a bit.. actually very curious about that!:joker:
.

The phrase was coined by Diana all those years ago to describe the male palace Aides - the press have been using it ever since. :hee:

[jet]

Imagine if you were that person who left your job because you felt you were being bullied....imagine watching that person preach at every opportunity about being kind and considerate to others...imagine watching that person play the victim card at every opportunity....
Meghan is a coward...she knows the Royal family will not put themselves on a public stage to defend themselves against her accusations... If she is guilty of bullying her staff then I hope she takes accountability of it.
This is one manipulative woman....there is only one intention behind this interview and that is to hurt Harry's family...and he sits by and watches her do it....shame on him.

Well said! :clap1:

[rusticgal]

Stop the whole "Harry stands by and watches" , he's a grown man not a child , he's been trying to get away from royal duties for a long time . Harry has never been too bothered about that lifestyle.

Tell me if Kate had these accusations would you think she was also manipulative and destroying the family? , or would you think she's been the victim of a smear campaign hmm I think the latter :idc: .

The accusations have nothing to do with being manipulative or destroying the family :shrug:...I think you might be getting confused. The manipulation was referring to other behaviour...

As for Harry....he seems quite happy for Meghan to talk so negatively about his family on National Television. The family that have had his back all of his life...Harry does a lot of standing by and watching, its there for all to see. He should be ashamed of himself.

[Glenn.]

The accusations have nothing to do with being manipulative or destroying the family :shrug:...I think you might be getting confused. The manipulation was referring to other behaviour...

As for Harry....he seems quite happy for Meghan to talk so negatively about his family on National Television. The family that have had his back all of his life...Harry does a lot of standing by and watching, its there for all to see. He should be ashamed of himself.

You don’t know her so unless you do then you referring to her as manipulating is nothing more than you unnecessarily hating her. There’s no actual proof this even happened.

[rusticgal]

It's quite a privilege to be bored of issues of race, not everyone can afford to be.


Making everything about Race is extremely tiresome....Kate has been so respectful in her Role as wife of the Future King...and she and William look very happy together. I think you will struggle to find anyone who would have a bad word to say about her....its nothing to do with being white..pathetic comment.

[jet]

Reports of old friends of Meghan's being frozen out when they have outlived their usefulness....ending the first marriage by sending her husbands wedding ring back to him via the post....estranged from her extended family on both mothers and fathers sides....Harry estranged from his family since Meghan arrived....trouble, trouble, trouble.
And the common denominator in all this trouble is Meghan.

[rusticgal]

You don’t know her so unless you do then you referring to her as manipulating is nothing more than you unnecessarily hating her. There’s no actual proof this even happened.



Oh dear...not the "you dont know her" line :idc:.....its opinion Glen thats why we are here

Anyway....Proof what happened?

[user104658]

As for Harry....he seems quite happy for Meghan to talk so negatively about his family on National Television. The family that have had his back all of his life...Harry does a lot of standing by and watching, its there for all to see. He should be ashamed of himself.

You seem to know an awful lot about Harry, his relationships and his family dynamics that I haven't been able to find anywhere... Do you have some sort of inside info?

[rusticgal]

You seem to know an awful lot about Harry, his relationships and his family dynamics that I haven't been able to find anywhere... Do you have some sort of inside info?


Thats for me to know and you to find out...:laugh:

[Zizu]

The phrase was coined by Diana all those years ago to describe the male palace Aides - the press have been using it ever since. :hee:



Ahhh .. lovely Di :(


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[Zizu]

Soooo when is this televised interview thingy being aired ... and on what channel !!

Thank you !


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[jet]

Soooo when is this televised interview thingy being aired ... and on what channel !!

Thank you !


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ITV Monday night. Not sure if its 9 or 10 oclock.

[Ammi]

...tbf, racism has been shown in headlines/articles and on multiple occasions, which is something that’s very serious and concerning...the only tiresome thing is that it’s still part of our society ....obviously bullying is also very serious and concerning but hasn’t yet been proven while racism toward Meghan and her family/heritage have been in what we see ourselves, with our own eyes etc...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ahhh .. lovely Di :(


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she was an adultress so not that great

[Zizu]

ITV Monday night. Not sure if its 9 or 10 oclock.



Ta



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[Glenn.]

Oh dear...not the "you dont know her" line :idc:.....its opinion Glenn thats why we are here

Anyway....Proof what happened?

But you don’t know her. That is a fact. So why do you post as if you do?

[Zizu]

she was an adultress so not that great



That’s grossly unfair given CharlieBoy was having an affair with Camila before / during / and after he married poor , innocent Di ...


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Harry and his wife were both labelled 'outrageous bullies', according to sensational claims
reported yesterday.

'Broken' royal aides told of feeling humiliated, 'sick', 'terrified', left 'shaking' with fear, and
being reduced to tears by the duchess.

Another aide described the experience of working for the Sussexes as 'more like
emotional cruelty and manipulation, which I guess could also be called bullying'.

Staff claimed they had occasion been reduced to tears after dealings with Meghan and
one aide told a colleague 'I can't stop shaking' as they anticipated a row with the duchess.

Harry would insist: 'What Meghan wants, she gets'.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9325545/Meghan-Harry-confirm-Oprah-interview-ahead-despite-Prince-Philips-health-battle.html

[Jordan.]

Harry would insist: 'What Meghan wants, she gets'.'

Goals :flutter:

[bots]

Royals have bullied everyone for centuries :laugh:

We know only to well how subjectively the term can be used and there needs to be solid proof to back any claim up. To prove the point look at the people accusing and defending on this thread and compare and contrast to the Priti thread :laugh:

[Ammi]

...the social media vibe atm seems to be very much... outrage toward the Royal family, that it’s so rare for them to give comment on these things at all and they’ve also now responded very quickly ...while they neither commented on or investigated any allegations of bullying 3 years ago is a large feeling..as was said earlier, I feel this will be very damaging for them also, maybe more so because Harry and Meghan were reported to be unpopular anyway in recent polls, I believe...

[Crimson Dynamo]

1367195487636512772

[jet]

The senior royals couldn't comment on something they didn't know about 3 years ago.

[Ammi]

Royals have bullied everyone for centuries :laugh:

We know only to well how subjectively the term can be used and there needs to be solid proof to back any claim up. To prove the point look at the people accusing and defending on this thread and compare and contrast to the Priti thread :laugh:


...there has been an inquiry into the accusations against Priti Patel and she was found to have broken the ministerial code of conduct ...but Boris Johnson completely ignored those findings and ruled that she didn’t break any code or bullying polic...how’s that for power and bullying, which is absolutely how it could be described, that he bullied by overruling and acting against official findings......:laugh:...one size never fits all and although some comparison can sometimes be drawn in some cases, differences are very much relevant as well...

[rusticgal]

But you don’t know her. That is a fact. So why do you post as if you do?


But you dont know her personally either...thats a fact. It doesnt stop you having an opinion does it?....it doesnt stop you defending her when you witness and see the same that I do.
Its a forum...its opinion. Its your problem if you think I post like I know her...try sticking to the subject matter and stop making it personal.

[Ammi]

...we know the Aide’s bombshell email which we would presume was written and sent ...and if it wasn’t read and acted on with an investigation 3 years ago by William and the rest of the senior Royals...then we know there there is a serious failure to protect...which appears to be the vibe on social media with their ‘fumes’ toward the royal family atm....

[Glenn.]

But you dont know her personally either...thats a fact. It doesnt stop you having an opinion does it?....it doesnt stop you defending her when you witness and see the same that I do.
Its a forum...its opinion. Its your problem if you think I post like I know her...try sticking to the subject matter and stop making it personal.

I can see the bigger picture and I’m not blinded by hatred. You are programmed to dislike everything she does because you hate her.

[GoldHeart]

You seem to know an awful lot about Harry, his relationships and his family dynamics that I haven't been able to find anywhere... Do you have some sort of inside info?

:skull::skull: lol

[GoldHeart]

1367195487636512772

Oh wow another reliable decent source, what would we do and how would we survive without Dan Wooten :bored:. That's like putting a 5 star rating on a cockroach & maggot infested hotel .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh wow another reliable decent source, what would we do and how would we survive without Dan Wooten :bored:. That's like putting a 5 star rating on a cockroach & maggot infested hotel .

he is a very successful journalist with a string of scoops

[jet]

Rebecca English (royal editor who has worked first hand with Prince Harry around the world) Daily Mail today.

I have personally witnessed more than one member of staff driven to tears by the treatment they were subjected to by the duke and duchess before the couple acrimoniously quit as working royals.

One person sobbed down the phone to me after a particularly harrowing day. They clearly felt emotionally broken and could no longer cope with the pressure they were being subjected to.

Toxic, hostile, distrustful, poisonous: all words I have heard regularly used over the past few years to describe people's experiences working in the Sussexes' household.
One source tells me wryly, with an eye to Meghan's much-hyped championing of female empowerment: 'Note that everyone concerned was a woman.'

........
A witness if needed? There should be many others.

[user104658]

Royal correspondent this, Royal editor that, all in the Monarchy-fapping Daily Mail :idc:. Where is the neutrality? An unbiased source on any of this would be just spiffing, more DM stories from the mouthes of people whose entire careers rest on the continuation of the Royal Family as a cash cow is just not cutting it.

[thesheriff443]

I can see the bigger picture and I’m not blinded by hatred. You are programmed to dislike everything she does because you hate her.

Glenn you are a one trick pony rolling out the same old lines hate and hatred.

You actually think you are the only one that can see the bigger picture!

[jet]

Continued....

Rebecca English Daily Mail

The Times also makes reference to an incident during the couple's tour to Australia, New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga in 2018, which was a particularly difficult one for all concerned, Meghan included. She was, of course, pregnant at the time.

The newspaper reports how Meghan cut short a visit to a market in Fiji because she was concerned about the presence of a UN organisation promoting women, with which she had worked before and made clear she no longer wished to have anything to do with.

At the time officials had suggested that it was because it was humid and the crowd was oppressive in the market.

I was there at the time and witnessed Meghan turn and 'hiss' at a member of her entourage, clearly incandescent with rage about something, and demand to leave.

I later saw that same – female – highly distressed member of staff sitting in an official car, with tears running down her face. Our eyes met and she lowered hers, humiliation etched on her features.

[jet]

Royal correspondent this, Royal editor that, all in the Monarchy-fapping Daily Mail :idc:. Where is the neutrality? An unbiased source on any of this would be just spiffing, more DM stories from the mouthes of people whose entire careers rest on the continuation of the Royal Family as a cash cow is just not cutting it.

Thou doth protest too much.

[user104658]

Glenn you are a one trick pony rolling out the same old lines hate and hatred.

https://i.imgur.com/N8h2MRo.gif

[thesheriff443]

Royal correspondent this, Royal editor that, all in the Monarchy-fapping Daily Mail :idc:. Where is the neutrality? An unbiased source on any of this would be just spiffing, more DM stories from the mouthes of people whose entire careers rest on the continuation of the Royal Family as a cash cow is just not cutting it.

It’s hardly like that ted the gardener who was in the pub on Friday night would be telling anyone that would listen about the big carry on at the castle this week.

And in the same way you would ask a cow in a field hows the farmer getting on.

[user104658]

Thou doth protest too much.

Apparently not enough since it's still all royal reporters and Daily Mail garbage :think:

[thesheriff443]

https://i.imgur.com/N8h2MRo.gif

You got nothing to say either on the subject

[jet]

You got nothing to say either on the subject

:joker:

[Glenn.]

Glenn you are a one trick pony rolling out the same old lines hate and hatred.

You actually think you are the only one that can see the bigger picture!

I say it how I see it.

The posts about Meghan are full of hatred made by people who don’t know her and are just happy to bash her for everything she does. Most based on tabloids and suspiciously timed revelations.

You may say I’m the one trick pony but so are the people that repeat the same hatred day after day. The different being I’m not blinded and led by biased tabloids and hateful people and can see when someone is being unfairly treated. It’s a shame other people can’t see it that way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Current Talk radio poll 22,000 votes

Should the UK strip Harry and Meghan of their UK citizenship after they claimed the Royal Family "perpetuated falsehoods" about them.

yes: 66%

no:34%

[Glenn.]

Also the only thing you contribute to these discussions sheriff is what I’m posting.

[user104658]

You got nothing to say either on the subject

My posts are exciting, vivacious and varied. If anything they could be deemed "flowery" or "too wordsy" but I'm not taking "one trick pony" :nono:

[GoldHeart]

he is a very successful journalist with a string of scoops

https://i.postimg.cc/Jz1MZj96/200.gif (https://postimages.org/)

[rusticgal]

I can see the bigger picture and I’m not blinded by hatred. You are programmed to dislike everything she does because you hate her.


Funny that because I too see the bigger picture and its different to yours...maybe you should get your head out of her arse and open your eyes.

[bots]

My posts are exciting, vivacious and varied. If anything they could be deemed "flowery" or "too wordsy" but I'm not taking "one trick pony" :nono:

you have been known here as tots for years .. toy one trick soldier :smug:

[thesheriff443]

I say it how I see it.

The posts about Meghan are full of hatred made by people who don’t know her and are just happy to bash her for everything she does. Most based on tabloids and suspiciously timed revelations.

You may say I’m the one trick pony but so are the people that repeat the same hatred day after day. The different being I’m not blinded and led by biased tabloids and hateful people and can see when someone is being unfairly treated. It’s a shame other people can’t see it that way.

Well you must be looking for that hatred on other sites because there is none on here and I’m one of only a few that gets banned for saying what I really think.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[jet]

Apparently not enough since it's still all royal reporters and Daily Mail garbage :think:

I guess you are one of those people that if you saw Meghan slapping a female across the face would shout "That girl walked into Meghan's hand, silly bitch!"
:laugh:

[user104658]

you have been known here as tots for years .. toy one trick soldier :smug:

No you're thinking of my other nickname; Toy Is Too Sexy... ... :think:

[Glenn.]

Funny that because I too see the bigger picture and its different to yours...maybe you should get your head out of her arse and open your eyes.

Well we know that’s not true.
It’s very much what I say you’re just too full of hatred to see it.

Well you must be looking for that hatred on other sites because there is none on here and I’m one of only a few that gets banned for saying what I really think.

Sure

[Zizu]

Harry and his wife were both labelled 'outrageous bullies', according to sensational claims

reported yesterday.



'Broken' royal aides told of feeling humiliated, 'sick', 'terrified', left 'shaking' with fear, and

being reduced to tears by the duchess.



Another aide described the experience of working for the Sussexes as 'more like

emotional cruelty and manipulation, which I guess could also be called bullying'.



Staff claimed they had occasion been reduced to tears after dealings with Meghan and

one aide told a colleague 'I can't stop shaking' as they anticipated a row with the duchess.



Harry would insist: 'What Meghan wants, she gets'.'



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9325545/Meghan-Harry-confirm-Oprah-interview-ahead-despite-Prince-Philips-health-battle.html



Harry an outrageous bully ??

Simply laughable



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[Zizu]

Royals have bullied everyone for centuries :laugh:



We know only to well how subjectively the term can be used and there needs to be solid proof to back any claim up. To prove the point look at the people accusing and defending on this thread and compare and contrast to the Priti thread :laugh:



Harry isn’t a typical Royal ( neither was his mum )

Both special people ... imho


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[thesheriff443]

Also the only thing you contribute to these discussions sheriff is what I’m posting.

That’s a a lie that can easily proved by my previous posts on this subject

You come in throw the word hate and hatred around for a few posts then you leave only to return in another thread to do exactly the same
This post will get removed because this place don’t like the truth

[user104658]

I guess you are one of those people that if you saw Meghan slapping a female across the face would shout "That girl walked into Meghan's hand, silly bitch!"
:laugh:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/327ce4f73f4c351deddc0a4416edc511/tumblr_o61swel3QT1qi8pz7o10_r1_250.gif

[GoldHeart]

I guess you are one of those people that if you saw Meghan slapping a female across the face would shout "That girl walked into Meghan's hand, silly bitch!"
:laugh:

What a ridiculous statement based on nothing

[Beso]

Talking of tricks....did I ever tell you about the time......

[user104658]

Harry an outrageous bully ??


What you have to understand is that Harry is somehow, similtaneously, a cowardly and timid little cuck who is under his wife's thumb, afraid to stand up to her, miserable and controlled and also an outrageous bully throwing his weight around to get his own way, leaving staff crying and shaking.

It makes perfect sense!

[rusticgal]

Harry an outrageous bully ??

Simply laughable



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You know what Zizu...my nephew when he was about 12 claimed he was being bullied at school...the family were distraught. Turned out HE was the bully...behind closed doors you dont know what is going on.
We will have to see what comes of the investigations and how many come forward...

[hijaxers]

What you have to understand is that Harry is somehow, similtaneously, a cowardly and timid little cuck who is under his wife's thumb, afraid to stand up to her, miserable and controlled and also an outrageous bully throwing his weight around to get his own way, leaving staff crying and shaking.

It makes perfect sense!

Yes his attitude is what Meghan wants Meghan gets ! Enjoy your life with Harry, hope you can stay the course.

[Beso]

What you have to understand is that Harry is somehow, similtaneously, a cowardly and timid little cuck who is under his wife's thumb, afraid to stand up to her, miserable and controlled and also an outrageous bully throwing his weight around to get his own way, leaving staff crying and shaking.

It makes perfect sense!



It does.

Because people who have been bullied, ie harry by meghan..well, those people often end up bullying others after being bullied.

[rusticgal]

It does.

Because people who have been bullied, ie harry by meghan..well, those people often end up bullying others after being bullied.


So true...

[Zizu]

What you have to understand is that Harry is somehow, similtaneously, a cowardly and timid little cuck who is under his wife's thumb, afraid to stand up to her, miserable and controlled and also an outrageous bully throwing his weight around to get his own way, leaving staff crying and shaking.



It makes perfect sense!



That sounds nothing like the young lad who we’ve all watched grow from a cheeky young lad into a great guy who not too ago was loved by the whole damn world :)


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[Marsh.]

What a ridiculous statement based on nothing

:laugh: Ikr.

[Zizu]

You know what Zizu...my nephew when he was about 12 claimed he was being bullied at school...the family were distraught. Turned out HE was the bully...behind closed doors you dont know what is going on.

We will have to see what comes of the investigations and how many come forward...



I’m sure we all know cases like that but over the decades there’s never been any suggestion that Harry was anything other than a lovely, big hearted guy


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[hijaxers]

That sounds nothing like the young lad who we’ve all watched grow from a cheeky young lad into a great guy who not too ago was loved by the whole damn world :)


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Yeah well you can go off people which is excactly what happened here ! For me anyway.

[rusticgal]

I’m sure we all know cases like that but over the decades there’s never been any suggestion that Harry was anything other than a lovely, big hearted guy


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I don’t think he is....but we will have to wait and see what comes out in the investigation.

[Zizu]

Yeah well you can go off people which is excactly what happened here ! For me anyway.



You’ve gone off Harry or me ?
:)


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[Vicky.]

Closing for now, seems to be getting heated/personal from a few.

Will clean and reopen when I get a bit of time.

Edit. FFS. Closed now as it didn't do earlier,I swear nowt at all is working for me this past week D:

[Beso]

I’m sure we all know cases like that but over the decades there’s never been any suggestion that Harry was anything other than a lovely, big hearted guy


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His choice of clothing at fancy dress parties when he was younger were either forced upon him by bullies, or a clear statement from him to say he's the man..

[Marsh.]

Closing for now

:hehe: