Derek Chauvin trial

[Alf]

I believe the trial for the death of George Floyd begins on the 8th of this month. That's in 4 days time according to my maths.

[Alf]

If anybody gets a link for live coverage of the trial, then post it in here if you could.

[Ammi]

...I wonder who will be allowed in court in terms of media coverage of the trial...it has been reported that only one member of George Floyd’s family is allowed to be present ...

[arista]

George Floyd death: How will jurors be selected in Derek Chauvin trial?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56287265


[Three other dismissed officers will stand trial
together later this year
but proceedings in Chauvin's trial will start Monday,
when jury selection begins.]

[Alf]

As the Kaiser Chiefs once said "I predict a riot"

[arista]

The National Guard with Police
are protecting the Court

[arista]

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[GoldHeart]

Hoping justice is served , but doubtful :bored: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hoping justice is served , but doubtful :bored: .

Justice is being served as it is in court and as a citizen, you abide by the decision

that is how the law works

[Nicky91]

court's verdict will probably be ''not guilty''


no interest in this trial whatsoever

[arista]

court's verdict will probably be ''not guilty''


no interest in this trial whatsoever


NO

[arista]

George Floyd: Additional third-degree murder charge
brought against police officer set to go on trial over killing

https://news.sky.com/story/george-floyd-additional-third-degree-murder-charge-brought-against-police-officer-set-to-go-on-trial-over-killing-12242987

[arista]

Hoping justice is served , but doubtful :bored: .


No
the Charge just increased

[arista]

[A third-degree murder charge has been brought
against the former police officer charged
in George Floyd's death - a move that could
increase the odds of a murder conviction in
what will be one of the highest-profile
police trials in the US.
Prosecutors had requested third-degree murder
be added to former Minneapolis officer
Derek Chauvin's charges,
which already included second-degree
murder and manslaughter.

A judge has now granted the request,
despite attempts from Chauvin's lawyers to block it.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

No way did the Cop intend to kill him

[Alf]

Live covererage, as jury selection continues



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[hijaxers]

2 black youths aged 14 and 16 broke into a 53yr old disabled / also mentally disabled white mans appartment in Rochester NY , poured petrol all over him and lit him up ! not one word n USA news ~ sorry but if that was reversed all hell would be let loose , riots , marches. protests etc .... this man who dies 4 days later from 70% burns seems not to matter at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

2 black youths aged 14 and 16 broke into a 53yr old disabled / also mentally disabled white mans appartment in Rochester NY , poured petrol all over him and lit him up ! not one word n USA news ~ sorry but if that was reversed all hell would be let loose , riots , marches. protests etc .... this man who dies 4 days later from 70% burns seems not to matter at all.

does not fit the narrative

[arista]

Starts today
at 3PM Sky starts the new Channel Ch524HD
Also Free online from SkyNews site.

Today the Opening Statements

Just on Times Radio DAB
they spoke of how the Police
made sure Floyd's previous Criminal Record
is brought in.
The USA Expert said it's expected to run for a Month.

[arista]

Ch524HD George Floyd Trial
by SkyNewsHD

Has started

Also Free Online
via this link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8uWCAf4H_w

Live in the Court :Minneapolis


The Judge is talking.

[Smithy]

2 black youths aged 14 and 16 broke into a 53yr old disabled / also mentally disabled white mans appartment in Rochester NY , poured petrol all over him and lit him up ! not one word n USA news ~ sorry but if that was reversed all hell would be let loose , riots , marches. protests etc .... this man who dies 4 days later from 70% burns seems not to matter at all.

That has nothing to do with any of this?

[Tom4784]

2 black youths aged 14 and 16 broke into a 53yr old disabled / also mentally disabled white mans appartment in Rochester NY , poured petrol all over him and lit him up ! not one word n USA news ~ sorry but if that was reversed all hell would be let loose , riots , marches. protests etc .... this man who dies 4 days later from 70% burns seems not to matter at all.

Okay, but what does that awful murder have to do with the trial of the police officers who murdered George Floyd?

[Oliver_W]

2 black youths aged 14 and 16 broke into a 53yr old disabled / also mentally disabled white mans appartment in Rochester NY , poured petrol all over him and lit him up ! not one word n USA news ~ sorry but if that was reversed all hell would be let loose , riots , marches. protests etc .... this man who dies 4 days later from 70% burns seems not to matter at all.
This doesn't have anything to do with a man passing away in police custody, but feel free to start a thread on it!

Also I've not heard of riots being ignited by civilian-on-civilian crimes.

[arista]

The Lawyer for Floyd
is very good

[GoldHeart]

does not fit the narrative

What narrative
This is about George Floyd

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Lawyer for Floyd
is very good

The defence chap is pretty calm and reasoned, good opening so far

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/7SIQr5E3MTT79xTRBs8Hyw/https/media.fyre.co/etXSPqf7TZCMWZpGNlII_metronew.jpg

[arista]

Its Live again
But No news channels are carrying it
except the Pop up Sky channel

This Link has it LIVE
Derek Chauvin trial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJvcJ1KFLfo

[arista]

Now CNN HD are showing it
Also SkyNewsHD

[rusticgal]

I have been watching....it’s an interesting watch.


I think all the Lawyers involved have been very good.

[Babayaro.]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/7SIQr5E3MTT79xTRBs8Hyw/https/media.fyre.co/etXSPqf7TZCMWZpGNlII_metronew.jpg

George Floyd is not on trial, so I don’t know why that is their headline?

[Alf]

Overdose?

Likely to have swallowed his drugs when he saw the Police turn up?

It's all gone a bit quiet, it does seem like the original narrative we were sold doesn't have much confidence left in itself.

[rusticgal]

The Expert yesterday was amazing...so far there is no substantial evidence to prove the drugs had any effect. However we are only seeing prosecution witnesses so it’s all very incriminating against the defendant...

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Overdose?

Likely to have swallowed his drugs when he saw the Police turn up?

It's all gone a bit quiet, it does seem like the original narrative we were sold doesn't have much confidence left in itself.



Sure
But that Cop's
knee on his kneck, killed him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sure
But that Cop's
knee on his kneck, killed him.

that has not yet been established in the court

[Crimson Dynamo]

unbelievable

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[rusticgal]

Sure
But that Cop's
knee on his kneck, killed him.


The expert for the prosecution said even if he hadnt had pressure on his neck..the pressure on his back sandwiching him against the road was enough to put the pressure on his lungs and stop him breathing..along with his hands behind his back.
What seems to have caused confusion is that GF was saying he couldnt breathe when he was in the back of the Squad car...
I think Defense witnesses are in court next week.

[arista]

Live, again


CNN HD, SkyNews Online YouTube
and their Pop Up Channel 524 (SkyOnly)



Witness is a Heart Specialist Doctor.

At this time, also Live on SkyNewsHD

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Nicky91]

i'm sure court will say he is not guilty as they always protect their own

[arista]

Its back on TV.

CNN HD

[bots]

to get a guilty verdict on any of the charges requires unanimous agreement of the jury. If the defence have done their work properly, they will have ensured that someone made it on to the jury that won't find him guilty

[Crimson Dynamo]

Derek Chauvin trial judge says 'abhorrent' comments by US congresswoman
Maxine Waters could jeopardise verdict

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/04/20/TELEMMGLPICT000256022510_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqc3IxSbj MmXltPISQXxZkADdiJTb-G8B2tR6VUJaXrzw.jpeg?imwidth=960

A California congresswoman's comments about Derek Chauvin's murder trial
could have given the former officer grounds for an appeal, the judge in the
case said.

Judge Peter Cahill called Maxine Waters's comments "abhorrent" as he
exhorted elected officials to stop disrespecting "the rule of law".

Ms Waters joined protesters in the area over the weekend and suggested
they should "get more confrontational" if Mr Chauvin was acquitted.

The 45-year-old faces manslaughter and murder charges after pinning
George Floyd to the ground for more than nine minutes in a fatal arrest last
May.

As the jury began their deliberations on Monday afternoon, the defence mad
a last-minute request for a mistrial based on "intimidating" comments from
Ms Waters.


Defence lawyer Eric Nelson also argued the huge amount of news coverage
over the case meant it would have been impossible for jurors to avoid
consuming some of the press around the trial.


Judge Cahill rejected the motion for a mistrial, but told the defence:
"Congresswoman Waters may have given you something on appeal that may
result in this whole trial being overturned".

Visibly irritated, he said: "I wish elected officials would stop talking about this
case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law... their
failure to do so is abhorrent."

But he added: "I don't think it has prejudiced us with additional material that
would prejudice this jury. They have been told not to watch the news. I trust
they are following those instructions."

Ms Waters, a Democrat, had joined protesters on Saturday outside
the Brooklyn Center Police headquarters, just 10 miles from where Mr Chauvin's trial is taking place.

Ms Waters told the crowd she wanted to see a murder conviction against Mr Chauvin.


When asked what should happen if the ex-officer is not convicted on
murder charges, she replied: "We gotta stay on the street, we've got to get
more active, we've got to get more confrontational, we've got to make sure
that they know that we mean business."



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/20/derek-chauvin-trial-judge-says-abhorrent-comments-us-congresswoman/

[bots]

that woman is a complete nutter, it was her and her cronies that stopped Biden winning by a massive landslide

[Alf]

This is why Limited terms in government is a must, otherwise they spend their whole life there, and turn out like Gropey Joe and Mad Maxine

[arista]

Jury Has Reached a Verdict.

Soon announced

[bots]

Jury Has Reached a Verdict.

Soon announced

eek, it could be mayhem there shortly then although the quick verdict probably means he is guilty of at least 1 charge

[AnnieK]

Whatever the verdict there is going to be trouble I would imagine

[Tom4784]

He has to be declared guilty, he was literally caught on camera in a 9 minute long video... If he isn't guilty on all counts than there is no justice.

[bots]

the verdict will be around 9:30 our time. It can't have been a divided jury otherwise it would still be going on, so it's pretty safe to presume he will be found guilty of at least 1 charge

[arista]

Verdict from Jury : Guilty of murder all 3 Guilty

Count 1
Count 2
Count 3


All Charges.

[GiRTh]

Sweet. :dance:

[hijaxers]

GuiltyYes !!!!!!!!!!!!

[GiRTh]

Guilty on all charges. Result :clap1:

[arista]

6 to 8 weeks for Sentencing


All 3 Charges he is Guilty


Back to Jail

[Cherie]

I saw the closing statement for the prosecution yesterday, correct result

[Denver]

He is faces atleast 40 years but they are hoping to add on extra years

[Smithy]

Can someone explain how you can be guilty of two different types of murder AND a man slaughter

[Braden]

Justice served.

[bots]

Can someone explain how you can be guilty of two different types of murder AND a man slaughter

it's all a bit alien for me, but it seems like its based on thresholds. So if the most serious is proven, then the others are just proven by default. I like it in some respects, because in the UK, people have been clearly guilty of something, but the charge was too aggressive and they end up getting away with it, because the serious charge is not proven for whatever reason

[Tony Montana]

Wonderful news. :clap1:

[hijaxers]

Justice served.

To right :dance: we all know this is the correct result for everyone.

[Black Dagger]

He won't survive the month.

[AnnieK]

Justice served, won't bring him back but at least his family have some justice in his death.

[joeysteele]

Justice done definitely.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Total stitch up

As expected

[Jake.]

Justice for George Floyd :clap1:

May he rot in there.

[Mitchell]

I’m sure this verdict is gonna make the racist, inhuman cretins over social media very upset, but accountability has been reached here, and about bloody time, I hope the **** rots in hell.

Accountability for Breonna Taylor next please.

[Niamh.]

Total stitch up

As expectedA court of law LT, a court of law

[Tony Montana]

Total stitch up

As expected

Keep telling yourself that. :pat:

[LaLaLand]

Amazing! Thank God.

[Smithy]

Total stitch up

As expected

Embarrassing

[Kate!]

Guilty of all charges. Just breaking now.

[GiRTh]

Total stitch up

As expected
:facepalm:

[smudgie]

Justice is done.
Hopefully he will serve the rest of his life in jail.
Murdering bstd.:fist:

[GiRTh]

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[rusticgal]

Guilty as charged....he was arrogant and his ego got in the way of acting humanely.
I thought it was disgraceful what Biden did though...he could have easily caused a re-trial.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzddYl2XoAA5Bid?format=jpg&name=small

[Alf]

So many lives ruined by this case. Not just the lives of Mr Floyd and Mr Chauvin. All those badly injured, killed and incarcerated in the aftermath.

There are winners though, the Political class, the media. They know how to turn a bad situation to their advantage.

[Alf]

Apparently Mr Floyd sacrificed himself for justice. The political class are very thankful to Mr Floyd, now they can attempt to use this to try to pass new authoritarian laws on the people, one more step to all conquering power.



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[Tom4784]

It's a shame how so many older people get suckered into believing conspiracy theories that a child would be able to see through. Oh well, enough about extremely gullible people, it's a great day for justice. I'm pleased that George Floyd's family finally got closure with this result and I hope this is a starting point for other black victims of police brutality to get the justice they've been denied in the past.

[Shaun]

Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

[Ammi]

...justice for George...:lovedup:...George Floyd was taken from his family but at least justice for his life wasn’t taken from them...I can’t imagine the emotion they must be feeling in having waited so long for this day and those judge’s words ...

George Floyd’s sister, LaTonya Floyd, reportedly said of the verdict: “I feel like heaven is standing on my shoulders ... My brother got justice, and that’s very rare.”


George Floyd’s younger brother, Philonise, said there was more work to be done in their fight for justice. “We will have to do this for life,” he said. “I am going to put up a fight every day ... because I am not just fighting for George any more.”

...as his family and Barack Obama have said, it’s about more than one trial and one verdict but it’s a great justice of a terrible wrong by someone who was pledged to protect ...George’s family can now begin to put their lives back together...

[Niamh.]

Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

Yeah I thought the same, great news though

[bots]

it only needed 1 juror to say not guilty and given the defence had input into the choice of jurors, it shows how damning the evidence was against him

[GoldHeart]

Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

Yeah I kept thinking what other excuses were they going to come up with to try and get Chauvin off , Floyd was being painted as some druggie with health problems .

But that's like jumping on an old man's chest who has lung disease, and after he dies nonchalantly being like "well he was already ill " , like it doesn't matter that you've still injured and killed someone .

So whether George Floyd had chest problems already, it doesn't change the fact he was still murdered . so finally justice has been served and a bit of closure too for the family :clap1: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

true to form there LT

[GiRTh]

IHwlcF0jrEYIs Ben Shapiro a forum member cuz we seem to hear from him alot. Perhaps the forum member would like to tell us why his voice is so important in this debate?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dershowitz predicts Derek Chauvin's conviction will be overturned, citing Maxine Waters,
Al Sharpton


He predicted the US Supreme Court would ultimately
Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz predicted Monday that Derek Chauvin's conviction would
be overturned on appeal because of the unusual number of "outside influences" that
potentially tainted the jury, which was unsequestered for the majority of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dershowitz-predicts-chauvin-conviction-overturned-on-appeal

[Crimson Dynamo]

lets hope so for the sake of the law

[Kate!]

Dershowitz predicts Derek Chauvin's conviction will be overturned, citing Maxine Waters,
Al Sharpton


He predicted the US Supreme Court would ultimately
Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz predicted Monday that Derek Chauvin's conviction would
be overturned on appeal because of the unusual number of "outside influences" that
potentially tainted the jury, which was unsequestered for the majority of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dershowitz-predicts-chauvin-conviction-overturned-on-appeal

Well that would be a travesty of the highest order.

[GiRTh]

Dershowitz predicts Derek Chauvin's conviction will be overturned, citing Maxine Waters,
Al Sharpton


He predicted the US Supreme Court would ultimately
Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz predicted Monday that Derek Chauvin's conviction would
be overturned on appeal because of the unusual number of "outside influences" that
potentially tainted the jury, which was unsequestered for the majority of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dershowitz-predicts-chauvin-conviction-overturned-on-appealDershowitz :facepalm:.

The man who after being accused of sexual improprieties claimed he had a 'perfect', I repeat 'perfect' sex life. A very odd statement from a very odd gentleman but lets post his garbage cuz it'll wind people up. :bored:

Jeffrey Epstein's ex-lawyer Alan Dershowitz boasts of his 'perfect sex life' with his wife (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7264877/Epsteins-ex-lawyer-Alan-Dershowitz-boasts-perfect-sex-life.html)

[hijaxers]

Well that would be a travesty of the highest order.

Oh yeah and watch for the reaction , if they let him off on appeal it'll be war on the streets and they will have every reason to , the man is guilty and deserves longest sentence possible, no excuses and end of.

I doubt Mr Chauvin will enjoy jail but its what happens when you murder aother human being.

[Crimson Dynamo]

let's await the appeal...

[Glenn.]

I’m glad the family has justice.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12BA1/production/_118150767_ifrontpage22.04.jpg

[Toy Soldier]

let's await the appeal...


But LT he has been convicted by a court of law... why are you questioning the verdict... do you think you know better than a court of law? :think:

[Ammi]

I’m glad the family has justice.

...it’s a strange one, I just can’t imagine how a family must feel with something like this because there would be a huge sense of justice obviously but no sense of satisfaction as such because to get to this place of justice they’ve lost George and so much of their lives/their daily thoughts etc will surely have had this focus of the trial and the verdict...now they don’t have that anymore, their grief will be something that they have to fully feel without that concentration of the trial and accountability...it’s just impossible to imagine..it would be like a grieving process twice...

[Ammi]

Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

Yeah I thought the same, great news though

...I’ve been in thoughts about this quite a bit this morning, it’s exactly what you’ve said, Shaun...it’s a small slice of justice, it’s not just that George’s life was taken by someone who was meant to serve the law and protect and preserve life...it’s that he coldly took a life in full public view...?...and that’s how deeply the prejudice can run...that it’s so instilled that a life can be taken, surrounded by horrified public eyes and then a not guilty plea given..
It’s great justice but it really is a tiniest slice...

[bots]

in order for an appeal to be successful it needs some genuine reasons for it other than some woman said something outside the courthouse. It reminds me a lot of Trump and his vote rigging accusations, and look where that got him

[Crimson Dynamo]

The conviction of the former Minneapolis police officer Derek
Chauvin for the murder of George Floyd was greeted with relief
by those who feared his acquittal would reignite racial tensions
in America. A thorough trial, albeit one firmly in the political
spotlight, considered all the evidence and a jury reached its
verdict beyond reasonable doubt. The justice system worked as
it should, without fear or favour.

Joe Biden, who even before the verdict was delivered
proclaimed publicly that the evidence against Chauvin was
“overwhelming”, said the outcome was a platform on which to
build better race relations in America. The events since Floyd’s
death, with the growth of the Black Lives Matter movement,
certainly demonstrate that these are needed.

It is disconcerting, however, to find campaigners in this country
seeking to find parallels with what has happened across the
Atlantic. There is no comparison. Race relations in the UK, while
by no means perfect, are infinitely better than in America and,
indeed, than in most other countries. Dr Tony Sewell’s
commission, which had the temerity to point this out, continues to be
trashed by those who would rather foment division than seek to improve the


During a heated Commons debate on the report, Marsha de
Cordova, Labour’s spokesman, suggested policy should take its
lead from the BLM movement. Fortunately, the redoubtable
Kemi Badenoch, the minister for equalities, was having none of
it, declaring: “She is clearly determined to create a divisive
atmosphere around race and we will not stand for it.” Ms
Badenoch’s ministerial colleagues need to back her up just as
forcefully.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2021/04/22/parallels-race-relations-america-britain/

[Toy Soldier]

It is disconcerting, however, to find campaigners in this country
seeking to find parallels with what has happened across the
Atlantic. There is no comparison. Race relations in the UK, while
by no means perfect, are infinitely better than in America


I agree with that but on the flipside, unfortunately, some people will take "it's much better here than elsewhere" and come to the illogical conclusion that "...therefore issues relating to race need NO attention here; it's fine".

"Better than elsewhere" does not mean "good". "America is worse" doesn't mean "we don't need to bother continuing to improve".


To use one of my famed parables; if you're in an accident and you clearly break your leg, but others in the same accident have internal bleeding and head injuries, YES you can say "Oh wow at least my injuries aren't as severe as theirs" ... and then you get yourself to hospital because you have a broken leg, and that needs attention. You don't hop off home declaring everything fine because your broken leg isn't as bad as Bob's punctured lung.

[bots]

we don't have a gun culture here, so we just can't compare ourselves to the usa, it's different on so many levels

[Crimson Dynamo]

I agree with that but on the flipside, unfortunately, some people will take "it's much better here than elsewhere" and come to the illogical conclusion that "...therefore issues relating to race need NO attention here; it's fine".

"Better than elsewhere" does not mean "good". "America is worse" doesn't mean "we don't need to bother continuing to improve".


To use one of my famed parables; if you're in an accident and you clearly break your leg, but others in the same accident have internal bleeding and head injuries, YES you can say "Oh wow at least my injuries aren't as severe as theirs" ... and then you get yourself to hospital because you have a broken leg, and that needs attention. You don't hop off home declaring everything fine because your broken leg isn't as bad as Bob's punctured lung.

we recently had a detailed and nuanced report by experts that said that your leg was not broken you have pulled a small ligament - so you can go home rest it for a day or two and you will be fine

:hee:

[Toy Soldier]

we recently had a detailed and nuanced report by experts

We did not.

[arista]

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD


His Sentencing is taking place.

[Mokka]

I listened to the final sentencing statements from both sides... and I hope they do more than throw the book at him. But in 15 mins we will know.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i guess i am also thinking of the woman he abused

[The Slim Reaper]

i guess i am also thinking of the woman he abused

Is this why you keep posting the videos of famous wife beater, and defender of child abusers, Jim Davidson?

[arista]

He Got 22 years and 6months


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57618356

https://news.sky.com/story/derek-chauvin-former-police-officer-who-murdered-george-floyd-jailed-for-22-and-a-half-years-12341841

[Mokka]

Justice has been served

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is this why you keep posting the videos of famous wife beater, and defender of child abusers, Jim Davidson?

:facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

:facepalm:

A simple yes would have sufficed :blush:

[Crimson Dynamo]

A simple yes would have sufficed :blush:

Simple

[Beso]

Hopefully he has a hard 20 whatever years.

[Black Dagger]

Is this why you keep posting the videos of famous wife beater, and defender of child abusers, Jim Davidson?

.

[hijaxers]

I'm pleased he got that sentence. but i was watching Judge Judy a couple of days ago and George Floyd the 6th i think , was in her court he had a record of all sorts of crimes and was guilty yet again and talk about a mirror image of his father , it could have been him when young.

[Beso]

I'm pleased he got that sentence. but i was watching Judge Judy a couple of days ago and George Floyd the 6th i think , was in her court he had a record of all sorts of crimes and was guilty yet again and talk about a mirror image of his father , it could have been him when young.

100 percent, the family are no Angel's, and will milk the death for what it's worth.

And if I was in their position, I would probably do the same.:shrug:

[Jake.]

Is this why you keep posting the videos of famous wife beater, and defender of child abusers, Jim Davidson?

:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Echo...echo...echo...

[The Slim Reaper]

Imagine being called out yet again for racist trolling, and your only reaction is to point out that more than one person noticed the racist trolling.

[Beso]

Imagine being called out yet again for racist trolling, and your only reaction is to point out that more than one person noticed the racist trolling.

Oh I got an infraction for that, it's a new one yeah?

One the old and new/same old, mods are yet to understand properly.

Considering they never bother to ask anyone what they mean by a post they post.

[Beso]

I’m glad the family has justice.

They dont...what a cruel thing to say.:nono:

[Glenn.]

Parm has forgot his reading glasses again I see.

[Shaun]

Pretty surprised again by the severity of the sentence. I'm sure he'll have Trumpers drumming up fundraisers to try and get him out earlier though.

[arista]

Pretty surprised again by the severity of the sentence. I'm sure he'll have Trumpers drumming up fundraisers to try and get him out earlier though.


Yes he got 22 years
based on his record of being a standard Cop.

[Mokka]

Yes he got 22 years
based on his record of being a standard Cop.

This isn't the standard, and if it is... the message has been sent that it isn't the standard that will be allowed to continue

Based on him committing an atrocious crime that was perpetrated while in a position of authority.

Based in forgetting/ignoring training that would recognize a citizen in distress that he could have saved the life of.

Based on the crime being committed in front of children, and the prevention of medically trained professionals near by to intercede.

[Ammi]

…justice for George and his family in the sentencing…

[thesheriff443]

A show sentence for a show trial?
Crime and punishment has been served in this case but it’s just one grain of sand on a massive beach and normal service will resume.

[arista]

Derek Chauvin has been Stabbed in Prison.

Bound to happen.


https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20231125-police-officer-who-killed-george-floyd-reported-to-have-been-stabbed-in-prison

[Garfie]

Derek Chauvin has been Stabbed in Prison.

Bound to happen.


https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20231125-police-officer-who-killed-george-floyd-reported-to-have-been-stabbed-in-prison

Hardly surprising particularly after his recent appeal, and the reasons given for it. He still refuses to recognise he is responsible for George Floyd’s death or that his sentence was justified, and he certainly shows not an ounce of remorse for his actions. He’s a disgusting creature who should serve every day of his sentence.

I hope he survives, and has to be looking over his shoulder every minute ofevery day, in fear of what might happen.

Harsh, I know, but the 9.5 minutes he had his knee on George Floyd’s neck was truly one of the most hateful, distressing and unbearable things I have ever witnessed. There are no words that seem effective enough to describe the events of that day, but what he did to George Floyd was torturous, and in my opinion, he now deserves to feel tortured by his fear of retaliation as a result.

[Alf]

Some claim that Chauvin's attacker was a Black lives matter member. There's also some claims that the attacker was a FBI informant.

Chauvin files an appeal based on new evidence and within hours he's stabbed 22 times. Nothing to see here.

[bots]

He is stated as an FBI informer by AP. He also chose friday to stab him because it was black friday supposedly, but, that sounds a bit silly to me

[Garfie]

Some claim that Chauvin's attacker was a Black lives matter member. There's also some claims that the attacker was a FBI informant.

Chauvin files an appeal based on new evidence and within hours he's stabbed 22 times. Nothing to see here.

There is no new evidence though, just a differing interpretation of current evidence which was proved false at the original trial. And I believe the Supreme Court turned down his appeal?

[bots]

There is no new evidence though, just a differing interpretation of current evidence which was proved false at the original trial. And I believe the Supreme Court turned down his appeal?

but he was stabbed in prison more than 20 times, which doesn't say a lot for their prison service

[Garfie]

but he was stabbed in prison more than 20 times, which doesn't say a lot for their prison service

Chauvin, being a former police officer, and carrying out the very public, torturous and horrendous murder of someone, has put a permanent target on his own back. He will always be a target, and will always have to be on high alert, as certain inmates will be waiting for any opportunity to take him out. Even after his release, his situation will forever be the same.

I’ve heard the suggestion that the prison is understaffed, so wardens cannot be in all places at all times. In these situations an inmate could be seriously injured (or worse) before prison guards arrive at a scene. Of course, there is also the suggestion that guards will turn a blind eye in certain circumstances.

Whatever the situation, I find it hard to have any sympathy for Chauvin after witnessing the crime he committed on camera, and the arrogance and cruelty he displayed in doing so. I’m sorry if that sounds bad but I can’t help feeling he brought this on himself.

[Alf]

Chauvin, being a former police officer, and carrying out the very public, torturous and horrendous murder of someone, has put a permanent target on his own back. He will always be a target, and will always have to be on high alert, as certain inmates will be waiting for any opportunity to take him out. Even after his release, his situation will forever be the same.

I’ve heard the suggestion that the prison is understaffed, so wardens cannot be in all places at all times. In these situations an inmate could be seriously injured (or worse) before prison guards arrive at a scene. Of course, there is also the suggestion that guards will turn a blind eye in certain circumstances.

Whatever the situation, I find it hard to have any sympathy for Chauvin after witnessing the crime he committed on camera, and the arrogance and cruelty he displayed in doing so. I’m sorry if that sounds bad but I can’t help feeling he brought this on himself.If you witnessed the crime he committed then you must have witnessed Chavin trying to put Saint George into the back of the Police car, which is what they do with all the people they arrest. You must have witnessed Saint George resisting and refusing to get in? You must have witnessed Chauvin and partner even offering to open the window for the criminal? You must have witnessed Saint George then being the one who went to the ground? You must know that Chavin's restraint tactic had been used thousands of times before with nobody dying? You must know he was trained to restrain that way?

[bots]

it was to be expected that inmates would try and take him out, i'm not going to go down the path of whether he deserved it or not. The point is that the prison service there continues to be corrupt

[Alf]

It's looking like Chauvin needed shutting up. Looks like he possibly got Epstein'd



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[Alf]

Of course it's just a conspiracy theory to most of you. You need confirmation from the ruling elites that control the MSM.

[arista]

but he was stabbed in prison more than 20 times, which doesn't say a lot for their prison service

Yes,
turning their backs.


Amazing they have kept him alive

[Alf]

It's looking like Chauvin needed shutting up. Looks like he possibly got Epstein'd



1730725685574901988So if anyone who's struggling to keep up. The guy who stabbed Chauvin was sentenced to 30 years in 2001 whilst working as an FBI informant.

[Alf]

It's all very dodgy. Cover up after cover up after cover up.

The cover up always gets you in the end.

[Garfie]

If you witnessed the crime he committed then you must have witnessed Chavin trying to put Saint George into the back of the Police car, which is what they do with all the people they arrest. You must have witnessed Saint George resisting and refusing to get in? You must have witnessed Chauvin and partner even offering to open the window for the criminal? You must have witnessed Saint George then being the one who went to the ground? You must know that Chavin's restraint tactic had been used thousands of times before with nobody dying? You must know he was trained to restrain that way?

I can see that our perceptions of these events are completely different. Having watched the whole trial, I heard both sides of the argument, and the spin that Chauvin’s lawyers used.

George Floyd committed an offence and did make some attempts to resist being placed in the car.. However, he was handcuffed and his struggle wasn’t exactly aggressive. George Floyd was anything but a saint- I know that - but he didn’t deserve to die for the relatively trivial crime he was being arrested for. No-one does.

People can come up with all sorts of excuses for Chauvin’s behaviour and actions, but none of them can excuse what he chose to do.

I know what I watched with my own eyes, and I know what Chauvin is. He revealed himself to the world that day. I’ve got an unending respect for police officers and what they have to endure each day, but Chauvin’s actions showed him to be nothing more than a heartless, cold-blooded and arrogant murderer, who knew exactly what he was doing during those 9+ minutes. There are no excuses for that, as I know what I saw in every painful and distressing minute of George Floyd’s murder, and your condescending sarcasm will not change what I know to be the truth, Alf.

[Alf]

I can see that our perceptions of these events are completely different. Having watched the whole trial, I heard both sides of the argument, and the spin that Chauvin’s lawyers used.

George Floyd committed an offence and did make some attempts to resist being placed in the car.. However, he was handcuffed and his struggle wasn’t exactly aggressive. George Floyd was anything but a saint- I know that - but he didn’t deserve to die for the relatively trivial crime he was being arrested for. No-one does.

People can come up with all sorts of excuses for Chauvin’s behaviour and actions, but none of them can excuse what he chose to do.

I know what I watched with my own eyes, and I know what Chauvin is. He revealed himself to the world that day. I’ve got an unending respect for police officers and what they have to endure each day, but Chauvin’s actions showed him to be nothing more than a heartless, cold-blooded and arrogant murderer, who knew exactly what he was doing during those 9+ minutes. There are no excuses for that, as I know what I saw in every painful and distressing minute of George Floyd’s murder, and your condescending sarcasm will not change what I know to be the truth, Alf.Do you not question why they allowed you to watch that trial but didn't allow you to watch the Ghislaine Maxwell trial?

[Garfie]

Do you not question why they allowed you to watch that trial but didn't allow you to watch the Ghislaine Maxwell trial?

I can understand why this trial was televised, as the public needed to witness that justice was served, and rightly so, in my view.

I would imagine there is all sorts of corruption in the system, and that I don’t doubt at all. It’s been evident in all sorts of cases.

I couldn’t claim to have a good knowledge of the Ghislaine Maxwell case, but I would guess the names of high profile individuals could have been revealed so that is probably the reason it wasn’t televised.

However, I’m not sure of the reasoning, and I’d be interested in your views.

[Alf]

I can understand why this trial was televised, as the public needed to witness that justice was served, and rightly so, in my view.

I would imagine there is all sorts of corruption in the system, and that I don’t doubt at all. It’s been evident in all sorts of cases.

I couldn’t claim to have a good knowledge of the Ghislaine Maxwell case, but I would guess the names of high profile individuals could have been revealed so that is probably the reason it wasn’t televised.

However, I’m not sure of the reasoning, and I’d be interested in your views.So you recognise high profile individuals. I'd also then assume that you'd think that high profile individuals have the money to buy off corrupt judges? Have the money and influence to get their selected jury's in
place? Have control of the media who can edit their propaganda to create the narrative?

But my point stands. Chavin did what he was trained to do. Chavin offered to even open a window for Floyd. That should tell you that Chauvin was not out to murder a man that only ten minutes earlier he was trying to do the best by him?

[Alf]

So why did they want the media to edit it a certain way, you ask?

Exactly for the reaction you got. Anarchy, bloodshed and death on the streets. That's what they wanted.

[Garfie]

So you recognise high profile individuals. I'd also then assume that you'd think that high profile individuals have the money to buy off corrupt judges? Have the money and influence to get their selected jury's in
place? Have control of the media who can edit their propaganda to create the narrative?

But my point stands. Chavin did what he was trained to do. Chavin offered to even open a window for Floyd. That should tell you that Chauvin was not out to murder a man that only ten minutes earlier he was trying to do the best by him?

I absolutely agree with everything you suggest in your first paragraph, and I’d enjoy a serious debate with you, Alf, but can we do it without the patronising and condescending tone? I am old enough, wise enough, intelligent enough and educated enough to understand all those things.

However, views will always differ, or else there’d be no need for debates.

Our views on Chauvin will never be the same.

To you, he did what he was trained to do and he did his job in a justifiable manner. To me, no matter what he did ten minutes previously, he did not use his training appropriately.

Restraint does not mean kill, yet Chauvin chose to turn it into that. Despite it being clearly evident to him that a man’s life was slowly being drained from him under his knee, Chauvin chose to continue pressing his knee, and the weight of his body, into that man’s neck until he was dead. He could have made the decision to stop at any point during those nine minutes, yet he made the decision to continue. That conscious decision changes his ‘restraint’ into murder. :shrug:

I recognise, however, that life is a matter of perception, so we’ll have to agree to differ on this one, as we will never view it in the same way.