Oprah: With Meghan and Harry

[Smithy]

I know there’s a thread where everyone is arguing but this is a thread for discussing the show as it airs :hee:

[Smithy]

Come through queen megs :clap1:

[Smithy]

I hope they call the baby Diana :lovedup:

[Ammi]

I hope they call the baby Diana :lovedup:

...I would be surprised if Diana wasn’t one of the names, for sure...

[Amy Jade]

I hope they call the baby Diana :lovedup:

that'd be so cute!

[hijaxers]

Not watching

[Amy Jade]

Not watching

Why you here then?

[SherzyK]

Why you here then?

Exactly? People just adding their 10p just to be spiteful towards Meghan smh

[SherzyK]

Anyways, Queen Meghan :love:

[Beso]

I'm here to say I told you so.

[Ammi]

..I forgot how much I didn’t like advertisements...

[Amy Jade]

Meghan is coming across really well, I had no idea you had to curtesy in an informal setting either

[Beso]

It's a tv show yeah?

In tv chat..

[Beso]

They could have done all this animal stuff far better in Africa.

[Amy Jade]

She rescued the dog and the chickens :flutter:

[SherzyK]

I’m really happy that they’re both living the life they’ve dreamed of and being able to create their own paradise without them being dragged through the mud. They deserve so much love :love:

[Dogeatdog]

The chickens are soo cute :flutter:

[Amy Jade]

kate seems very snakey

[GoldHeart]

I hope they call the baby Diana :lovedup:

Awww that would be nice :love:

[Beso]

So she just got accused at the beginning of this part of being a tyrant that got people sacked or made them leave.

Then goes directly on the defensive by turning it all on the bride making her cry.

[Smithy]

So she just got accused at the beginning of this part of being a tyrant that got people sacked or made them leave.

Then goes directly on the defensive by turning it all on the bride making her cry.

She said she hadn’t heard those stories and then talked about a story she had heard

Are you even paying attention?

[SherzyK]

She said she hadn’t heard those stories and then talked about a story she had heard

Are you even paying attention?

I’ll answer that...

He isn’t

[Smithy]

I’ll answer that...

He isn’t

Well it’s after 5pm tbf

[Beso]

So far it sounds like she just couldnt accept the pecking order to the throne and who's honour should be upheld first.

[LukeB]

Yes Oprah showing the world the double standards :love:

[GoldHeart]

..I forgot how much I didn’t like advertisements...

That's why I've taped it to watch either later or tomorrow

[Smithy]

LOVE that she’s bringing up these headlines, people can finally see the obvious hate train

[Smithy]

The fact that Meghan could quite easily drag absolutely everyone in this interview but you can see she’s still protecting these people :skull:

[Amy Jade]

The British media

white woman holds baby bump: awww so cute

black woman holds baby bump: attention seeker!

white woman eats avocado: healthy and caring

black woman eats avocado: causing deforestation!

[GiRTh]

Well scripted so far. :thumbs:

[Ammi]

That's why I've taped it to watch either later or tomorrow

...you very smart cookie, you...:love:...

[Beso]

The queen gave her a nice pearl necklace.. an obvious favourite from the off, from both sides.

[GoldHeart]

...you very smart cookie, you...:love:...

:laugh: :)

[Beso]

I have a feeling oprah thinks shes lying.

[Amy Jade]

Meghan was very complimentary of the Queen tbf

[GoldHeart]

The British media

white woman holds baby bump: awww so cute

black woman holds baby bump: attention seeker!

white woman eats avocado: healthy and caring

black woman eats avocado: causing deforestation!


Yeah this

The unfair nitpicking Meghan had against Kate , like Meghan is evil & Kate is good
:bored: .

[SherzyK]

I love the friendship between Oprah and Meghan. A lot of trust there :love:

[Brother Leon]

Meghan looking absolutely radiant and shining. What a strong woman.

[Beso]

Meghan was very complimentary of the Queen tbf

As she has been of the king of Saudi, whon incedently also gifted her an expensive item of jewellery.

[AnnieK]

She obviously has great affection for the Queen. She is right in saying the family and the people who run the institution are very different. I highly doubt the Queen knows very much of what goes on outside of her personal diary.

[Smithy]

As she has been of the king of Saudi, whon incedently also gifted her an expensive item of jewellery.

And you have an issue with this?

[Amy Jade]

As she has been of the king of Saudi, whon incedently also gifted her an expensive item of jewellery.

It's rude to decline a gift :hee:

[LukeB]

Maybe that are you ok question saved her

[Amy Jade]

She obviously has great affection for the Queen. She is right in saying the family and the people who run the institution are very different. I highly doubt the Queen knows very much of what goes on outside of her personal diary.

Yeah I agree she's not attacking the actual royal family but the institutions around the family which we know full well are toxic from how Diana was treated

[Beso]

And you have an issue with this?

Yeah, hes a murderous bastard.

[Amy Jade]

So here we go she wasn't asking for security for herself but her child.

Caring mother :clap1:

[SherzyK]

Yeah, hes a murderous bastard.

What does this have to do with Meghan?

[Beso]

So shes took on a job, the job was ****.
So she left, and is now slagging off her ex bosses..can someone report this breach of data protection please

[Smithy]

Yeah, hes a murderous bastard.

Wow wait till you hear who sells him the weapons!!

[Beso]

What does this have to do with Meghan?

It's like a kid keeping his jimll fix it badge.

[Brother Leon]

Imagine the great grandson of Big Queen of England, not being given any security detail. :laugh:

[SherzyK]

It's like a kid keeping his jimll fix it badge.

Whatever that means :hee:

[Amy Jade]

So shes took on a job, the job was ****.
So she left, and is now slagging off her ex bosses..can someone report this breach of data protection please

bit like posting a clients address eh?

[Beso]

Wow wait till you hear who sells him the weapons!!

See me praising that fact then pull me up.

[Ammi]

Yeah I agree she's not attacking the actual royal family but the institutions around the family which we know full well are toxic from how Diana was treated

...it’s the whole royal institution that she refers to as ‘the firm’, which I think Prince Philip was the one to first use that expression...so maybe widely used within the royal family...

[Beso]

bit like posting a clients address eh?

Which didnt happen and was falsely reported to the client by some wierd bitter loner on here.

But me and the client laughed together about the sadness of that person when j called to apologise for even mentioning his name and for the description I made of him.


Luckily he is as cool as Gstar and LT said.

[GiRTh]

I hope Harry and Megs know what they're doing? I'd rather ***** with the Mafia than the Royal family.

[LukeB]

And people moan why others bring up the race card? that montage is why! It's so obvious she's getting vilified because she's a woman of colour.

[Ammi]

I hope Harry and Megs know what they're doing? I'd rather ***** with the Mafia than the Royal family.

....hmmmmm, yeah...there’s that as well...I wonder how much the family actually know of anything and whether the power is with the firm...that whole organisation that surrounds them and protects what the represent...

[Amy Jade]

urgh that Danny Baker thing when he posted about the chimp was ****ing gross

[Ammi]

...ok, which floor of the palace is Human Resources on, please...

[Ammi]

urgh that Danny Baker thing when he posted about the chimp was ****ing gross

...really, so much...

[SherzyK]

And people moan why others bring up the race card? that montage is why! It's so obvious she's getting vilified because she's a woman of colour.

You have to admire her strength for having to endure the onslaught of horrible media coverage that she got for basically existing

[GiRTh]

Dont like that 45 minutes in and we havent heard a word from Harry. Its a bad optic. Makes him look hen pecked. I dont see why she couldn't discuss this with Harry by her side. It'll be construed as selfish and attention seeking

[LukeB]

You have to admire her strength for having to endure the onslaught of horrible media coverage that she got for basically existing

Yeah you do :love: I admire her even more now. A strong and inspirational woman

[Brother Leon]

To think so many Royal Family members attempt to champion mental health. The institution let her down deeply.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dont like that 45 minutes in and we havent heard a word from Harry. Its a bad optic. Makes him look hen pecked. I dont see why she couldn't discuss this with Harry by her side. It'll be construed as selfish and attention seeking

Bang on right

[Ammi]

Dont like that 45 minutes in and we havent heard a word from Harry. Its a bad optic. Makes him look hen pecked. I dont see why she couldn't discuss this with Harry by her side. It'll be construed as selfish and attention seeking

...yeah, I get that but this is Meghan’s words as the first thing, I think..Harry’s were with James Corden in the way that he preferred his ‘interview’ style to be...is how I’m thinking of it anyway...

...it was always Oprah meets Meghan as it was James Corden meets Harry etc...

[joeysteele]

I hope Harry and Megs know what they're doing? I'd rather ***** with the Mafia than the Royal family.


Actually a good point.

I just say again, the whole set up needs massive reforming.
It actually seems to have got worse in the near 70 year reign of this Queen.
When it should have been all change from the start of her reign.

Yes though, the hierarchy of the Palace and Royal set up, not just the Royals themselves, is I think a cause for concern as to the measures they will enact and go to.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And people moan why others bring up the race card? that montage is why! It's so obvious she's getting vilified because she's a woman of colour.

A bunch of out of contex cut and paste jobs on screen for a second done by a work experience kid?

:joker:

Just terrible

It was amateur hour

[SherzyK]

I think because Meghan receives the brunt of all the slander from the media and online trolls, as well as the royal family, it’s understandable why people would want to hear her side of the story. I’m sure Harry is well aware of what’s been going on and why he wasn’t present for most of that interview

[Amy Jade]

A bunch of out of contex cut and paste jobs on screen for a second done by a work experience kid?

:joker:

Just terrible

It was amateur hour
I mean they posted a montage of what you post on the forum all day every day

[joeysteele]

You have to admire her strength for having to endure the onslaught of horrible media coverage that she got for basically existing


That media coverage and headlines they showed were a disgrace to any decency.
Shocking.

I never look at the press, I only see it when members on here post trashy Mail articles or other gross publications.
Vile, utterly vile those publications were and ARE.

[GiRTh]

This reminds me of the the Mike Tyson Robin Given interview :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Dont like that 45 minutes in and we havent heard a word from Harry. Its a bad optic. Makes him look hen pecked. I dont see why she couldn't discuss this with Harry by her side. It'll be construed as selfish and attention seeking

He's here now Girth.

[Amy Jade]

Dont like that 45 minutes in and we havent heard a word from Harry. Its a bad optic. Makes him look hen pecked. I dont see why she couldn't discuss this with Harry by her side. It'll be construed as selfish and attention seeking

Isn't it a 2 hour interview?

45 for a woman who has never been allowed to speak doesn't seem much to me

[Amy Jade]

Tyler Perry being more supportive of Meghan, Harry and Archie than the whole family...wow

[GiRTh]

Isn't it a 2 hour interview?

45 for a woman who has never been allowed to speak doesn't seem much to meI dont see there is anything Meghan can discuss without Harry by her side. It'll be analysed is the point I am making and I dot tihnk the analysis will favour Meghan

[GiRTh]

He's here now Girth.:laugh:

[Brother Leon]

Not even a huge fan of Tyler Perry’s work, but he always puts his money to good use and seems a really good dude. Fair play.

[GiRTh]

Fair play to Tylre. His shows are terrible but he does do some good with his money.

[GiRTh]

Preach it Harry. I love him :love:

[Ammi]

...why did Tyler Perry give them some security btw...?....

[GiRTh]

No crying yet. Surely someone got to cry. Its the cum shot.

[Brother Leon]

...why did Tyler Parry give them some security btw...?....

Because he probably felt bad that someone receiving so much hate and media attention isn’t even being protected when she has a child too. And he’s a Billionaire so he thought he would do the Royal Institute’s job for them and help a friend.

[Ammi]

Because he probably felt bad that someone receiving so much hate and media attention isn’t even being protected when she has a child too. And he’s a Billionaire so he thought he would do the Royal Institute’s job for them and help a friend.

...so they were friends before or...?..I was just wondering if it was more an act of kindness for people he didn’t know so well or that he did know...it’s a very beautiful thing regardless, but I was thinking, did they have friendship history, you know...

[Dogeatdog]

One of the main things I’m getting from this interview is seeing how cold the royal institution can be.

[GiRTh]

Preach it Harry :flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is a car crash of woke

It's going to go TU tomorrow


Holy mother of God :joker:

[Ammi]

One of the main things I’m getting from this interview is seeing how cold the royal institution can be.

...I love how Diana insisted on a more ‘hands on’ mother/sons relationship and refused the royal nannies much of the time...a much closer attachment, think ...

[LukeB]

Diana :love:

[Amy Jade]

This interview isn't half as damning as we were lead to believe.

The Royal family aren't being 'trashed' especially by Meghan, it's clearly the people running it that are awful, awful people.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Diana was a serial adulteress

[joeysteele]

One of the main things I’m getting from this interview is seeing how cold the royal institution can be.


Ice cold the Royal institution seem to be.
Even sinister I think possibly.

[Amy Jade]

Diana was a serial adulteress

Charles was cheating on her before they were even married.

Why should she stay faithful when he never did.

[Ammi]

...the royal family as a product and as a firm...that whole existence feels so cold, it’s inevitable that something like this would happen some day...

[LukeB]

Charles was cheating on her before they were even married.

Why should she stay faithful when he never did.

That part will always be left out by LT

international womans day y'all

[Amy Jade]

...the royal family as a product and as a firm...that whole existence feels so cold, it’s inevitable that something like this would happen some day...

I'm proud Meghan and Harry have been the brave ones to step up

[Crimson Dynamo]

Charles was cheating on her before they were even married.

Why should she stay faithful when he never did.

Yes the solution to being cheated bon is to cheat back numerous times

:facepalm:

[Ammi]

I'm proud Meghan and Harry have been the brave ones to step up

...:love:..

[Brother Leon]

Charles wasn’t worthy of being in the same room as Diana, he treated her like crap and showed her no loyalty, so she seeked a man who would adore her as she deserves.

[LukeB]

I'm proud Meghan and Harry have been the brave ones to step up

:love:

I fear if they didn't leave Meghan might not have been here and Archie will be without a mother. It's quite scary to think about tbh. They did the right thing.

[Dogeatdog]

...I love how Diana insisted on a more ‘hands on’ mother/sons relationship and refused the royal nannies much of the time...a much closer attachment, think ...

Yh I always got the sense of Diana being very caring and motherly and as you say, having that much more closer attachment to her children, i think that was definitely a key part of what separated her a little bit more than the other royal family members.

The royal institution just come across as very cold to me watching this interview. Like there’s no compassion or duty of care for the safety of Harry, Megan and his children, it just seems very unsupportive.

[Ammi]

...this is so heart wrenching...:sad:..

[joeysteele]

...the royal family as a product and as a firm...that whole existence feels so cold, it’s inevitable that something like this would happen some day...

Definitely.
I'm glad I am watching this.
While a Monarchist, I have felt a long time the hierarchy of the Palace, the institution as it's termed here.
Is a shocking set up.

As to Prince Charles, he used Diana.

Had Charles really loved Diana, this could have happened then.
However he is heir to the throne,so it couldn't, also though I'd say he probably really never loved Diana at all.
She was just used for legitimate heirs.

[AnnieK]

Diana was a serial adulteress

And?

Shall we talk about Charles and his relationship with his sons, his treatment.of his children's mother, his long continuous affair etc etc

[Dogeatdog]

Ice cold the Royal institution seem to be.
Even sinister I think possibly.

Yes I agree there Joey. The institution seem to be very ‘hush hush’ and shady in my opinion.

[joeysteele]

:love:

I fear if they didn't leave Meghan might not have been here and Archie will be without a mother. It's quite scary to think about tbh. They did the right thing.

Which was Prince Harry's fear too Luke..
So yes, they've made the right decision in my view too.

[Smithy]

My friend FaceTimed me so I only saw the first 30/40 minutes :fist:

I’ll have to watch on catch up

[Ammi]

My friend FaceTimed me so I only saw the first 30/40 minutes :fist:

I’ll have to watch on catch up

..get new friends, Smithy...

[GiRTh]

Finally Oprahs taken her foot of the table. Damn rude. If she'd have been in my house I'd have had a word.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In terms of shooting themselves in the foot but thinking they are in control of the narrative I genuinely don't think I have witnessed s more delicious total cluster *******up

Popcorn ordered for the next week..



:joker:

[Ammi]

...gorgeous family images, they’re such adoring parents...:lovedup:...an entirely different kind of childhood to the one he would have had in the establishment...

[LukeB]

Which was Prince Harry's fear too Luke..
So yes, they've made the right decision in my view too.

The best decision that could have ever been made. Family is important that doing that job.

[Smithy]

..get new friends, Smithy...

No :lovedup:

[Ammi]

...Archie screaming...BUT I WANTED ThE CASh and Privilege, GODAMN you PareNTs...!!!!!...

[Ammi]

No :lovedup:

....hmmmmmm, a friend, eh...:flutter:...

[LukeB]

A great interview tbh. They came across really well and didn't trash anyone at all like it was being made out to be. I really hope for the best for them and wish them a lot of happiness. I hope the toxic bullies and media don't get to them.

[Dogeatdog]

...gorgeous family images, they’re such adoring parents...:lovedup:...an entirely different kind of childhood to the one he would have had in the establishment...

Definitely :love:. Seeing those images and seeing them being more of a family and being able to enjoy the freedom of being more involved with their children and being a lot happier as opposed to how it was for Harry (and William) growing up, being more controlled in a system.

[Niamh.]

...gorgeous family images, they’re such adoring parents...:lovedup:...an entirely different kind of childhood to the one he would have had in the establishment...Yeah so glad for Archie and his sister

[GoldHeart]

Charles was cheating on her before they were even married.

Why should she stay faithful when he never did.

I've always said the same thing

Diana gets slated but Charles was seeing Camilla behind her back , Diana had the dirty done on her and I'll always have sympathy for her .She was vulnerable and she actually had second thoughts about marrying Charles but felt she had to go through with it .

[joeysteele]

Actually a very endearing interview.
Prince Harry showed both the hurt he feels at the failure of the Royal institution, plus I sense from his rather cold Father too.

Prince William wouldn't dare seem to support Prince Harry either being the more like programmed heir to the throne, because quite frankly, the public would probably prefer Prince Charles NOT to be the next King but to hand it on to Prince William.

They're genuine togetherness and affection, showed through and was refreshing to see.

However, the name of who raised the skin colour offensive comment, will likely need to be made known.
It's a shocking statement.

Good interview, really interesting and in my view genuine too.

[LukeB]

Other than the queen the whole royal family seem quite cold and unloving to me.

[Smithy]

....hmmmmmm, a friend, eh...:flutter:...

:fan:

[Ammi]

...so damaging for some senior royals and the whole royal establishment, I think ...who don’t look good at all in contributing to the decisions made by the young family...

[LukeB]

Here to Archie and his sister having a great life now :love:

[Ammi]

:fan:

..:fan:..oh you...

[GiRTh]

Great interview. There'll be the obvious denials but there was alot said that needs to be answered by the Palace press office.

[Ammi]

...I’m imagining how she must feel in looking back at those gorgeous images of her at the Royal Albert Hall event and her associations when she sees herself is that her thoughts were on taking her own life that very day...:sad:..

[Dogeatdog]

Actually a very endearing interview.
Prince Harry showed both the hurt he feels at the failure of the Royal institution, plus I sense from his rather cold Father too.

Prince William wouldn't dare seem to support Prince Harry either being the more like programmed heir to the throne, because quite frankly, the public would probably prefer Prince Charles NOT to be the next King but to hand it on to Prince William.

They're genuine togetherness and affection, showed through and was refreshing to see.

However, the name of who raised the skin colour offensive comment, will likely need to be made known.
It's a shocking statement.

Good interview, really interesting and in my view genuine too.

I agree with all of this Joey. You can sense that he feels very let down and hurt by the institution and the cold reactions from some of his family members.

There is a lot I think that the palace needs to answer for, especially the skin colour comment as you mentioned.

[Ammi]

Great interview. There'll be the obvious denials but there was alot said that needs to be answered by the Palace press office.

...yeah, it’s all very damaging to them ...atm we’ve been considering the failure to protect staff and now the failure to protect their own family as well...

[Dogeatdog]

...I’m imagining how she must feel in looking back at those gorgeous images of her at the Royal Albert Hall event and her associations when she sees herself is that her thoughts were on taking her own life that very day...:sad:..

It goes to show how we really don’t know how badly some people are suffering inside. It was so sad to hear how she was feeling during this particular moment in time ):

[Amy Jade]

Other than the queen the whole royal family seem quite cold and unloving to me.

Fergie sounded nice too running out the house to teach Meghan how to bow correctly

[Amy Jade]

It's a shame Charles never respected and protected Diana like Harry does Meghan.

She'd still be with us :(

[Beso]

On reflection.. I believe this is an admition by harry that he believes his mother was killed by the firm..and has moved fearing his wife may come to the same end.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's a shame Charles never respected and protected Diana like Harry does Meghan.

She'd still be with us :(

She died due to drink, speeding and no seatbelt

To blame prince Charles is incorrect and not nice

Not nice to the boys

Their actual dad

[Ammi]

It goes to show how we really don’t know how badly some people are suffering inside. It was so sad to hear how she was feeling during this particular moment in time ):

...(hopefully...)...this will all mark the way for a better future for those within the royal family and royal establishment for William and Kate and their children and as the generations go down...Harry and Meghan and Harry in particular have now made that change that he wanted to see ...and that future royals will benefit from..:lovedup:..

[Denver]

It's a shame Charles never respected and protected Diana like Harry does Meghan.

She'd still be with us :(

He used her for children that's a known fact and she was pretty much forced into a 2nd with him

[Beso]

He used her for children that's a known fact and she was pretty much forced into a 2nd with him

This is the same toxic press they have fled.

[Amy Jade]

She died due to drink, speeding and no seatbelt

To blame prince Charles is incorrect and not nice

Not nice to the boys

Their actual dad

she died because she was being chased by the press as you well know

[GiRTh]

Who ever it was who made the comment about Archies complexion? We need to know who that was. That needs to be cleaned up quick. Probably throw Pedo Andrew under the bus. He's already got enough dirt on him he can cop for this too.

[Ammi]

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[Beso]

Imo the harry and william thing started when harry taunted William during a 50 metre race for the press.


You always let your boss win in such circumstances to withhold your current position.

[Crimson Dynamo]

she died because she was being chased by the press as you well know

I'm afraid that isn't correct. It's untrue

Some media claimed the erratic behaviour of paparazzi following the car, as reported by the BBC, had contributed to the crash.[2] In 1999, a French investigation found that Paul, who lost control of the vehicle at high speed while intoxicated by alcohol and under the effects of prescription drugs, was solely responsible for the crash. He was the deputy head of security at the Hôtel Ritz and had earlier goaded paparazzi waiting for Diana and Fayed outside the hotel.[3] Anti-depressants and traces of an anti-psychotic in his blood may have worsened Paul's inebriation.

Wiki

It's been common knowledge for many, many years .....

[Amy Jade]

I said what I said you copy and paste whatever ****e you want

[Ammi]

Imo the harry and william thing started when harry taunted William during a 50 metre race for the press.


You always let your boss win in such circumstances to withhold your current position.

...I don’t know, I know of a family feud that began when one brother said to his sibling that he had big ears and for many years those ears were very controversial and tense...so always check the size and position etc of your ears as well, is a good rule to avoid family feuds...

[Beso]

I said what I said you copy and paste whatever ****e you want

Said meghan to her hand maid.

[Beso]

...I don’t know, I know of a family feud that began when one brother said to his sibling that he had big ears and for many years those ears were very controversial and tense...so always check the size and position etc of your ears as well, is a good rule to avoid family feuds...

Said prince charles to nobody.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I said what I said you copy and paste whatever ****e you want

It's fact I'm afraid

Has been lfor a long

Long

Time,,,,,,,

[Denver]

It's fact I'm afraid

Has been lfor a long

Long

Time,,,,,,,

Charles used Diana for Children then cheated on her with a horse and refused to let her remarry

[Beso]

She wrote a letter to the monarchy and said...

"Do with me what you like"

Edit 2021
Ps...unless I dont like it.

[Beso]

Charles used Diana for Children then cheated on her with a horse and refused to let her remarry

A horse...?


On national ladies day.....how very nice of you.

[GiRTh]

...yeah, it’s all very damaging to them ...atm we’ve been considering the failure to protect staff and now the failure to protect their own family as well...I thought prince Charles didnt come across well.

[Beso]

Any body language experts opinions yet?

[Beso]

Oh Harry's just mentioned having outdoor spaces now..


Lmao..

[Beso]

.Meghan

"All of those things I wanted to happen, have happened"

Then oprah mention the fairytale princess thing.

:joker::joker:

[Beso]

Then the credits running over meghan laughing her head of in the background..


Very telling imo.

[Beso]

I've watched it twice now.

Pair of fakes imo..first out on bb..

[Beso]

Anyone remember the day tibb was up in arms about trump walking in front of the queen..

Yet laughed or said nothing when harry dropped the twitter bomb sign whilst his granny wasnt looking during a videod meeting.

[Beso]

Harry. An ex and still proud army man.

Talking about his mental health and all his new choices for houses whilst hundreds of ex soldiers lay shivering on the streets tonight.

That thought disgusts me.

[rusticgal]

Not knowing where to turn to help with their mental health...when Harry along with William and Kate support a Mental health group.
....silly me forgetting they were shackled in their cell and couldn’t escape.

[GoldHeart]

Then the credits running over meghan laughing her head of in the background..


Very telling imo.

Yes smiling and laughing automatically means they're fake and lying

LOGIC :notimpressed:

Because it couldn't possibly be a number of other reasons could it ?

Like relief to have gotten all this off their chests?
Or the fact it's a coping mechanism at everything that's happened ?
Perhaps even the fact they're in a comfortable space now so feeling happy/ relaxed?

But no it's always good to think the WORST

[GoldHeart]

Other than the queen the whole royal family seem quite cold and unloving to me.

I just finished watching the whole interview , and i agree completely .

There's this very cold and stiff behaviour , and it's very sad as you can see that Harry feels let down by both his father & brother to a degree. Where was the support that they needed.

The royal firm /institution sounds very callous and toxic , sounds like utter hell what Meghan went through . And it seems other members of the royal family are happy to play the "role" and smile for the cameras like a robotic image. Not allowed to be too outspoken either .


And i don't care what anyone says the remark about Archie's
'skin complexion' clearly had a racist undertone to it , nobody was a fly on the wall. Harry didn't want to go into the details of that conversation, but you can tell it made him uncomfortable and he was taken aback by the comment made.


And i truly believe Meghan and Harry made the right decision by moving away and stepping back , especially for their mental health. It's gut wrenching to think Meghan actually contemplated suicide , she didn't deserve the hate she received.

[Cherie]

Not watching

Neither did I Jax, taped it any may watch in the future though like Haz on the bus probably won’t bother

[jet]

Not knowing where to turn to help with their mental health...when Harry along with William and Kate support a Mental health group.
....silly me forgetting they were shackled in their cell and couldn’t escape.

Just said something similar in the other thread. :laugh:

They didn't know where to turn for help with their mental health? Ridiculous!

[Cherie]

Not knowing where to turn to help with their mental health...when Harry along with William and Kate support a Mental health group.
....silly me forgetting they were shackled in their cell and couldn’t escape.

https://www.mind.org.uk/news-campaigns/campaigns/heads-together/

Led by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry, Heads Together unites eight mental health charities, including Mind. We're very proud to be part of the team.

Since May 2016, Heads Together has encouraged millions of people to have important conversations about mental health.


This is nearly as bad as having to google the National Anthem

[Cherie]

I hope they call the baby Diana :lovedup:

I believe Kate and William have already done that..

As the second child of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge she is fourth in line to the throne. On 4th May, The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge announced that they would name their child Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. She will be formally known as Her Royal Highness Princess Charlotte of Cambridge.

[Smithy]

Right well she’s not called Diana then is she

[Ammi]

..they could call her Princess...

[joeysteele]

I just finished watching the whole interview , and i agree completely .

There's this very cold and stiff behaviour , and it's very sad as you can see that Harry feels let down by both his father & brother to a degree. Where was the support that they needed.

The royal firm /institution sounds very callous and toxic , sounds like utter hell what Meghan went through . And it seems other members of the royal family are happy to play the "role" and smile for the cameras like a robotic image. Not allowed to be too outspoken either .


And i don't care what anyone says the remark about Archie's
'skin complexion' clearly had a racist undertone to it , nobody was a fly on the wall. Harry didn't want to go into the details of that conversation, but you can tell it made him uncomfortable and he was taken aback by the comment made.


And i truly believe Meghan and Harry made the right decision by moving away and stepping back , especially for their mental health. It's gut wrenching to think Meghan actually contemplated suicide , she didn't deserve the hate she received.

Definitely and for their mental health too.

The problem there was as she said, she felt a need to maybe be somewhere to have her mental health concerns addressed.

She and indeed it's likely, the rest of the Royals are not under the disgraceful restrictive rules of the Royal set up.
Allowed to independently get that help.
It also seems despite Princes William and Harry's mental health highlighting.
They haven't been able to ensure the support is there within the Royal institution.

So there's no support from the Royal institution and neither can they independently go off to get outside help, due to the royal restrictions.

That shows the Royal institution for the outdated, cruel and totally wrong place and people it is.

Good, strong reasoned post from you GoldHeart
I felt they were sincere and they've lifted the lid off something as to the Royal institution, which needed to be done.

They aren't the first to highlight problems of no support within the Royal mess that it is.
The hierarchy of the Palace staffing as to the institution too..
They'll see mental health as weakness.
As others do, then you'll have those who don't like these 2, who will just dismiss their mental health concerns..

As many do with ordinary people too.
A total lack of compassion..

They can't be reasoned with so there's no point in trying.
Because attitudes to mental health are still shocking in society from uncaring people who just see it as weakness or excuses.

That's disgusting.

If Prince William and Kate are REALLY serious about mental health issues.
Well it looks like they need to start on the home front and do what this current Monarch hasn't done in nearly 70 years..
To get set up proper and trained mental health support for Royals feeling it.
OR allow them to go and get the independent help they may need.
Which Royal protocol clearly seems to forbid, in this day and age.

Those who scoff at mental health and the people who say they are feeling it and have fears.
Are not worth wasting time on.

Mental health is still a joke to some.
For all individuals.
In the Royal institution, it seems it's preferred to ignore it.
Shocking.

Plus, of course it's a racist orientated comment.
Re Archie's likely skin colour..
Further evidence of the truly rotten attitude and prejudice that flowed from the person who said it.
Whoever it is who said that, needs naming.
Disgraceful.

No wonder they got out, well done to them.
I've always just wished them well, I'm glad they gave us these revelations of what should be the most sinister of the Royal set up.

My Mother recalled when Prince Edward was in the forces, he struggled and was upset, not able to seemingly cope with it.
He was described as being a wimp and softie and had to do it out of duty.

It seems nothing's changed as to the Royal institution's hard and cruel insensitive regime.

[Smithy]

..they could call her Princess...

:joker::joker:

[joeysteele]

I believe Kate and William have already done that..

As the second child of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge she is fourth in line to the throne. On 4th May, The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge announced that they would name their child Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. She will be formally known as Her Royal Highness Princess Charlotte of Cambridge.

So, they can still call her Diana if they wished.
My Father's name was Joseph.

I have his name as my first name being the last child born.
My Brothers all have Joseph as one of their names too.

Of course they can call her Diana if they wished.
Commemorating Princess Diana isn't the exclusive right of Prince William and Kate.

[Cherie]

So, they can still call her Diana if they wished.
My Father's name was Joseph.

I have his name as my first name being the last child born.
My Brothers all have Joseph as one of their names too.

Of course they can call her Diana if they wished.
Commemorating Princess Diana isn't the exclusive right of Prince William and Kate.

I never said they couldn’t, just that Smithy seemed unaware Diana had already been honoured by William

[jet]

https://www.mind.org.uk/news-campaigns/campaigns/heads-together/

Led by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry, Heads Together unites eight mental health charities, including Mind. We're very proud to be part of the team.

Since May 2016, Heads Together has encouraged millions of people to have important conversations about mental health.


This is nearly as bad as having to google the National Anthem

Or the outright lie that she hardly knew her half sister when there are countless photos of them together through the years in Sam's book and the docu of the Dad & Meghan.

Surely even the staunchest of defenders must be having some doubts about Meghan's honesty and integrity? Not that they would admit it. :hehe:

[Amy Jade]

..they could call her Princess...

I believe Katie Price and Peter Andre have already done that..

[Crimson Dynamo]

to be honest its like hearing one side of an arguiment from a collegue at work

you sit there saying "omg" "really?" "blimey, what did you say then?"

but in the back of your mind you are thinking

"aye right and if i spoke to the other person maybe id get a completely different story..."

Airing your dirty laundry in public is demeaning and always makes things worse in the end

[Nicky91]

tonight will be broadcast on all our dutch channels

[Kazanne]

to be honest its like hearing one side of an arguiment from a collegue at work

you sit there saying "omg" "really?" "blimey, what did you say then?"

but in the back of your mind you are thinking

"aye right and if i spoke to the other person maybe id get a completely different story..."

Airing your dirty laundry in public is demeaning and always makes things worse in the end

Someone is asking why Oprah never challenged them on anything and I get that they wanted to put thier story across but there is always two sides isn't there and they know the palace will not do a full on interview,also someone mentioned Harry himself had to apologise for making a racist remark to a soldier so as much as I like Harry ,practice what you preach.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-called-fellow-soldier-his-little-****-friend-1299804.html

I did think they might have wished Phillip well.

[Rob!]

11.3m watched this last night. Wonder how many of them claimed they wouldn’t be?

[Crimson Dynamo]

11.3m watched this last night. Wonder how many of them claimed they wouldn’t be?

id imagine the same who say they hate Piers Morgan but watch LIfe Stories and GMB every morning, like a drug...

:hee:

[Ammi]

..so many memes etc today as we can imagine...just a few of the more gentle ones with Diana, I’ll post...

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/1368755594455379971-png__700.jpg


https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/1368758900502171649-png__700.jpg

[Cherie]

11.3m watched this last night. Wonder how many of them claimed they wouldn’t be?

wow, I was expecting much higher, I guess an early night was more tempting for most :laugh:

Literally we are all prisoners, Meg can relate and only 11m tuned in lol

[Beso]

Yes smiling and laughing automatically means they're fake and lying

LOGIC :notimpressed:

Because it couldn't possibly be a number of other reasons could it ?

Like relief to have gotten all this off their chests?
Or the fact it's a coping mechanism at everything that's happened ?
Perhaps even the fact they're in a comfortable space now so feeling happy/ relaxed?

But no it's always good to think the WORST

Which you just did about what I wrote..I didnt give an opinion so practice what you preach

[Beso]

..they could call her Princess...

Hasnt prince Edward got that one sewn up?

[joeysteele]

Someone is asking why Oprah never challenged them on anything and I get that they wanted to put thier story across but there is always two sides isn't there and they know the palace will not do a full on interview,also someone mentioned Harry himself had to apologise for making a racist remark to a soldier so as much as I like Harry ,practice what you preach.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-called-fellow-soldier-his-little-****-friend-1299804.html

I did think they might have wished Phillip well.

She wasn't there to challenge them.
This was a long planned vehicle for them to tell their story.

It wasn't a debate.

She did push, she pushed to get to the root of the lack of support for their mental health issues

She pushed to find out who made the racist comment..
To both Meghan and Prince Harry.
Prince Harry himself who it was said to, refused to identify as did Meghan.

If you were doing an interview, where you were presenting your side of an issue .
Would you expect to be challenged by the person you'd agreed to tell it to.

As for Prince Philip,Prince Harry indicated with James Corden, he still talked with him.
When was this recorded, would they even have known Prince Philip was still in hospital.

It wasn't a live interview.

However, my point, if I'd agreed to tell my story of why I'd taken some move in my life and what were the things that shaped that move..
I wouldn't expect in that chat, to have challenges to it from someone who themselves had no real.knowkedge of the internal set up.
Which both Prince Harry and Meghan certainly have.

I've had the opposite to you, I've had people wishing they'd talked more and Oprah less.

[Amy Jade]

11 million is HUGE for a 9pm showing on a weeknight

[Amy Jade]

id imagine the same who say they hate Piers Morgan but watch LIfe Stories and GMB every morning, like a drug...

:hee:

Watching a TV show that happens to be presented by someone you dislike is massively different from watching an interview dedicated to a certain person though, isn't it. :facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

11 million is HUGE for a 9pm showing on a weeknight

The Prince Andrew interview got 1.7m

:whistle:

[Niamh.]

I mean, yes it's one side of the story and everything they say could be truth or half truths or lies, we could sit here and argue all day about it however for me the proof of how shabbily Meghan was treated by the press is all there in black and white (pardon the pun) Did anyone ever come out and defend her when she's getting bullied to **** by the papers? That alone tells me her story holds some water :shrug:

[joeysteele]

11.3m watched this last night. Wonder how many of them claimed they wouldn’t be?

That's the highest I've seen ratings for a while.
The most watched thing over Christmas was the Queen's broadcast, with less than that.
Only around 8 million +

I know of a lot of people who have recorded it to watch today or later in the week.

I'm sure there's people who say they didn't or wouldn't watch it, that actually did.

I myself wasn't sure I was going to a week or so ago, however I decided I would because I wanted to hear the whole content and context all was said.
So I could comment with the fullest knowledge relating to it.

[Amy Jade]

The Prince Andrew interview got 1.7m

:whistle:

I wouldn't know I never watched as it's brazenly obvious he is a peadophile and I have no desire to indulge his bull****. Hope you enjoyed it though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean, yes it's one side of the story and everything they say could be truth or half truths or lies, we could sit here and argue all day about it however for me the proof of how shabbily Meghan was treated by the press is all there in black and white (pardon the pun) Did anyone ever come out and defend her when she's getting bullied to **** by the papers? That alone tells me her story holds some water :shrug:

She and Harry do not read newspapers or look at them online they have stated

and I doubt anyone in the Royal Household would have said "here, Megs did you see what they said in the SUn today about you?"


The press thing is a scapegoat

They get far, far worse on Twitter which is unregulated

Im sure i get dragged very occasionally (and i mean very occasionally what with me being down with the kidz) on that discord thing but i never see it nor know how to look at it so i remain unbothered

[Ammi]

... Crikey, the makers of The Crown must be checking their bank accounts by the moment and already planning season #2647589....I should watch it some time...

[joeysteele]

I mean, yes it's one side of the story and everything they say could be truth or half truths or lies, we could sit here and argue all day about it however for me the proof of how shabbily Meghan was treated by the press is all there in black and white (pardon the pun) Did anyone ever come out and defend her when she's getting bullied to **** by the papers? That alone tells me her story holds some water :shrug:

Yes.
It was also the programme they agreed to in order to present their side of their decision and why they made it.

It is clear on the vile headlines of the press and the comparisons of her with Kate.
That their claims against the press are justified.
As a court has just so ruled.

Only they know the full Royal set up of the institution they highlighted and how bad it became for them.

Of course the Palace won't accept that account, it's all shrouded in mystery.
I was only 5 when Princess Diana died, however it seems to me, the same dark, sinister and cold institution it was when she was in the Royal machinery.
Hasn't altered at all.
Nothing changed, nothing learned or dealt with.
So I too can support the view they were genuine in this interview.

I see no reason for them not to be.
After all they walked off once it reached for them a more dangerous level.
Plus it was a fully born and bred Royal too who forcefully was presenting and confirming what Meghan had indicated.
Namely Prince Harry himself.

He lived through the trauma of his Mother's death as a child, he must feel traumatised that he was then witnessing his chosen wife, heading into danger as his Mother did.

It's staggering to think the Palace wouldn't have made sure that could never have been the case.

[Niamh.]

... Crikey, the makers of The Crown must be checking their bank accounts by the moment and already planning season #2647589....I should watch it some time...

:laugh:

It's actually pretty good and I wouldn't be one for following the Royals by a long way

[Ammi]

Yes.
It was also the programme they agreed to in order to present their side of their decision and why they made it.

It is clear on the vile headlines of the press and the comparisons of her with Kate.
That their claims against the press are justified.
As a court has just so ruled.

Only they know the full Royal set up of the institution they highlighted and how bad it became for them.

Of course the Palace won't accept that account, it's all shrouded in mystery.
I was only 5 when Princess Diana died, however it seems to me, the same dark, sinister and cold institution it was when she was in the Royal machinery.
Hasn't altered at all.
Nothing changed, nothing learned or dealt with.
So I too can support the view they were genuine in this interview.

I see no reason for them not to be.
After all they walked off once it reached for them a more dangerous level.
Plus it was a fully born and bred Royal too who forcefully was presenting and confirming what Meghan had indicated.
Namely Prince Harry himself.

He lived through the trauma of his Mother's death as a child, he must feel traumatised that he was then witnessing his chosen wife, heading into danger as his Mother did.

It's staggering to think the Palace wouldn't have made sure that could never have been the case.


...just touching on his mother’s death and his all time strained relationship with media, which is going off topic but your post made me think of it for some reason, Joey...I recall his words in an interview and felt his emotional pain so deeply when he spoke about photographers taking photographs of His mother while she was dying in the car...we just can’t imagine, can we..no matter what ‘privilege’ someone is perceived to have...

[Ammi]

:laugh:

It's actually pretty good and I wouldn't be one for following the Royals by a long way

...yeah, its never appealed to me and I usually go off recommendations quite a bit and it’s been strongly recommended by so many...this is all such great news for the makers of it...:laugh:..

[Crimson Dynamo]

...just touching on his mother’s death and his all time strained relationship with media, which is going off topic but your post made me think of it for some reason, Joey...I recall his words in an interview and felt his emotional pain so deeply when he spoke about photographers taking photographs of His mother while she was dying in the car...we just can’t imagine, can we..no matter what ‘privilege’ someone is perceived to have...

they were foreign paparazzi not UK doing that and they were freelance and not affiliated with a specific french title. Three were fined one Euro each

[GoldHeart]

Watching a TV show that happens to be presented by someone you dislike is massively different from watching an interview dedicated to a certain person though, isn't it. :facepalm:

This